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Posted by: Fantastic.5298

Fantastic.5298

This patch is another example of where ANET failed to not provide a game where all you do is farm.

The one major event that they added to the game can be completed in one hour. Within the event, there are smaller events that are all very much similar and are recycled over the course of an hour. Then in order to continue playing new content, you must repeat the major event which itself has the loop of smaller content within it. If you know anything about for loops, you will realize that you are doing the same smaller events over and over again. This defines farming. No progression is being made each time; we are not finding out anything new, no additional goals or accomplishments.

Its worse than other games this patch, at least when major, world changing events happen in other games there is progression over the course of a time period, i.e. Sunwell isle in WoW.

What is being completed in LA right now, defines farming. The only thing that happens if you don’t show up is that you don’t have stacks of valubles, it won’t matter to the rest of the world

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

What do you expect instead?

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Posted by: Vol.7601

Vol.7601

What exactly do you want? An event that can be completed once, and then it’s done? No one else can do it ever again?

You don’t want anything to be repeatable?

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Posted by: Exosferatu.2961

Exosferatu.2961

Some people have farmer mentality. You can do it casually, just do one run and that was it. Do not force yourself to do it over and over again.

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Posted by: Fantastic.5298

Fantastic.5298

No but I would like for there something else that follows it, possibly send us off to figure out how we can destroy it or help the citizens outside. Or give us more LS progressions within LA that doesn’t have to be completed within the hour that can be done solo. I don’t care that its repeatable, I’m annoyed that its there is one vague event to complete for the next two weeks

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

He wants the karka event from November 2012.

Also, you want farming to be a part of the living story otherwise people have no incentive to keep doing it after they’ve gotten their achievements. With how quickly you can get the achievements, people would have been done well before the weekend.

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Posted by: Fantastic.5298

Fantastic.5298

No, I don’t want the Karka event either . I want there to be more LS to complete or something that takes place outside being in the raid. Give people a reason to break off from the zerg

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Posted by: Vol.7601

Vol.7601

You’re being hypocritical here.

You don’t care if your version of content isrepeatable, yet your original post complains about the current repeating, looping content

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Posted by: Fantastic.5298

Fantastic.5298

Its the fact that the repeatable content is the only content to do in this patch. The tower of nightmares was a good example of where they tied progression in the LS with repeatable content. Yes you had the content that could be repeated but there was more to the story and patch. There was stuff to do outside the zone and there were instances of lore. I loved that patch

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Posted by: Zypher.7609

Zypher.7609

LA being destroyed and having to rescue citizens is not a big enough LS? No reason to follow the zerg, create a group and just go off and save citizens. There are so many citizens that are spread out that the only way to get will be to break off from zerg.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

No but I would like for there something else that follows it, possibly send us off to figure out how we can destroy it or help the citizens outside. Or give us more LS progressions within LA that doesn’t have to be completed within the hour that can be done solo. I don’t care that its repeatable, I’m annoyed that its there is one vague event to complete for the next two weeks

They do it this way to give everyone a chance to complete it.

Their first big update – Lost Shores – was a series of one-time only events over a weekend and it caused a lot of issues and got a lot of complaints. Not just from people who couldn’t be there but people who hit bugs or lag or kept disconnecting. Even before the event finished they had to change it to allow you to do part 1 while part 2 was going on, because so many people were unable to finish it in the time originally allowed.

All in all it was a mess and Anet agreed that one-time events were not a good idea. So we’ve got the system we have now where content is available for 2 or 4 weeks and can be completed at any time within that, usually repeatable as well.

It doesn’t mean you have to keep doing it for the full two weeks, or even that you have to do it twice. It just means the option is there if you want to.

Personally I think it’s much better this way because everyone can choose how they want to approach it. If you want to farm then you have that option, if you want to play through it just once then you can do that too and you won’t really miss out on anything. If you want to do something in the middle – like go for certain goals and skip others – then you can do that.

Much better than Anet deciding on one path and forcing everyone to follow it.

Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).

“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”

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Posted by: sorudo.9054

sorudo.9054

so….more achievements ppl can farm, more farming and grinding to do?
ill skip this one…again!!!!

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Posted by: GstarHood.7186

GstarHood.7186

You have a good point, I do like the event but it will not keep me doing that one thing for longer than a few days. Should of added some more interactive parts to the story. But still can’t wait to see how it ends

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Posted by: echo.2053

echo.2053

What is being completed in LA right now, defines farming. The only thing that happens if you don’t show up is that you don’t have stacks of valubles, it won’t matter to the rest of the world

The odd part is even if you do have valuables, lol the rest of the world still does not care..

This is but a hunch, maybe gw2 isn’t the game for you if your repeatedly unhappy. With lack of defined roles, spammable skills and the down state, zergs are here to stay

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

so….more achievements ppl can farm, more farming and grinding to do?
ill skip this one…again!!!!

There’s no grinding for the achievements. Most can be gotten within an hour. Exceptions being like the ones at the entrances to LA and maybe the rubble one.

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Posted by: Darkbattlemage.9612

Darkbattlemage.9612

zergs are here to stay

For the moment at least…Anet or their higher ups can always deem Zergs no longer required.

I’m the Asura Elementalist that stole all your cookies, well except the oatmeal ones.
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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

You have a good point, I do like the event but it will not keep me doing that one thing for longer than a few days. Should of added some more interactive parts to the story. But still can’t wait to see how it ends

I don’t think it’s intended to keep you doing this for the whole 2 weeks.

Some people will do that, either because they want to farm it or because they have very limited time to play, but for most people it will take a lot less. The entire rest of the game is there to give you something to do the rest of the 2 weeks.

Personally I much prefer it this way. Back in July and August (and June to a lesser extent) they did have very grindy achievements that were intended to take most of the month to complete and it was horrible. I was seriously considering quitting the game at that point because I felt like I was just playing to keep up and never had time to do the things I really wanted to do (like dungeons, map completion, levelling alts) because I had to prioritise the temporary content.

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“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”

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Posted by: Teulius.8752

Teulius.8752

This is farming that is not worth it, speedruning dungeons with a good group, doing world events and just spamming frostgorge is far more profitable, this patch had dissapointed me so much. It’s the siege of LA and all i am doing is standing behind people autoattacking :/

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Posted by: Mishee.5719

Mishee.5719

Lions Arch (LA) = Loot Area…Good job. All I have to do is press my loot spell (Guardians staff, Spell 1) to get gold and a bunch of crap.

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

You have a good point, I do like the event but it will not keep me doing that one thing for longer than a few days. Should of added some more interactive parts to the story. But still can’t wait to see how it ends

I don’t think it’s intended to keep you doing this for the whole 2 weeks.

Some people will do that, either because they want to farm it or because they have very limited time to play, but for most people it will take a lot less. The entire rest of the game is there to give you something to do the rest of the 2 weeks.

Personally I much prefer it this way. Back in July and August (and June to a lesser extent) they did have very grindy achievements that were intended to take most of the month to complete and it was horrible. I was seriously considering quitting the game at that point because I felt like I was just playing to keep up and never had time to do the things I really wanted to do (like dungeons, map completion, levelling alts) because I had to prioritise the temporary content.

this.

its basically adding a MASSIVE hour-long world event for casuals who kittened and moaned about Teq/ tri-wurm/ marionette. its a step in the story….and a nice diversion from the normal stuff you do, but its not mean to be ground endlessly for 2 weeks (unless you want multiple back skins). You don’t have to zerg (tho zerging is most profitable….but profit isn’t really the complaint; “fun” is) to do the event…..

that said……..its been a long while since the last non-fractal dungeon/5-man focused LS……could use some new party content…………i long for another Aetherblade Retreat.

Better yet, add more stuff like marionette (starts as “zerg”, but eventually breaks down into parties), but this time the party aspect consumes more time and attention. can’t stress enough how great iot feels to do an event as part of a greater whole, but be responsible for victory on a small/personal scale.

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Posted by: Fantastic.5298

Fantastic.5298

Yeah it would feel less zergy and more personal if they split the zerg up much more. The fact that there are so many overlapping events (I’ve had three all in the same area at once) and they are so short makes the zerg stay together and port around. By making the events longer and include more chains, it would require people to stay in smaller groups spread out and if an area needs more then people can help accordingly.

Also it would be nice to include a variety of events, not just escort and timed kill. GW2 is full of these differing mechanic events and many of them could’ve been incorporated. Following that there should be chained events, if one is failed or if one is succeeded, what would be the next best course of action.

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Posted by: thefantasticg.3984

thefantasticg.3984

This is farming that is not worth it, speedruning dungeons with a good group, doing world events and just spamming frostgorge is far more profitable, this patch had dissapointed me so much. It’s the siege of LA and all i am doing is standing behind people autoattacking :/

Thats what I gathered from the time that my Wife has spent running it and the pitiful drops/coin that she amassed.

RNG is a bell curve. Better hope you’re on the right side.