Guild Wars 2

This is the best time to negotiate the Tengu help other races? or we will help evacuate the wounded / refugee from LA?

/discuss

They’ll take one look at the chaos, see that it was started by one of the five races that wants to be allies with them, and decide that it’s not time yet.

Maybe it was a rogue agent, maybe they’re all really like this. They’ll just have to wait and see.

In other words, nothing will happen.

• Tengus take a look at all the mayhem… slip inside the gate, shuts it down magically so that you can’t even fly above it

“call us when it all quiets down, later crocodile”

I can see everyone trying to escape, and then reaching the gates to the Dominion.

Refugees: “Please, open the gate! She is going to kill us all!”
Tengu guards: “NONE SHALL PASS!”

If there wasn’t any mention about Tengu in upcoming patch, it wouldn’t make any sense. I mean, city got blown up and swarmed by Scarlet forces, will they just stop like “Okay, these ones are neutral, skip” and turn back? Nah. Scarlet has to harass Tengu someway. And even if we don’t see DoW opening up, we will at least get some more information.

Rym.1469:

it wouldn’t make any sense.

Ummm… you HAVE been playing the same LS we have, right?

Kalarchis.8635:

Opening up the Dominion during the destruction of the city and introducing Tengu as playable shortly after would be a wonderful move. This is absolutely the perfect opportunity to bring them into the fold and I think Anet would be making a huge mistake not to.

It’s what I think.

why should old world Tengu do anything but remain xenophobic towards humanity? Particularly since they seem not to be involved in the us vs dragon thing that somehow united Tyria.

These are not Canthan Tengu. There was never an accord, never any softening of the emnity of them. I’m shocked they have any contact with outsiders at all.

And seriously.. never make them a playable race. Not until the Canthan tribes are available.

^The Tengu are trying to get on good terms with the other races. They paid an asuran krewe to build an asura portal to their city, but they were scammed it seems. It didn’t help to build any confidence between them and the races outside of the great wall, did it?

Kalarchis.8635:

Opening up the Dominion during the destruction of the city and introducing Tengu as playable shortly after would be a wonderful move. This is absolutely the perfect opportunity to bring them into the fold and I think Anet would be making a huge mistake not to.

And what would be the Tengus’ 1-15 starter zone? Why, the “Ruins of Lion’s Arch,” of course!

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

why should old world Tengu do anything but remain xenophobic towards humanity? Particularly since they seem not to be involved in the us vs dragon thing that somehow united Tyria.

These are not Canthan Tengu. There was never an accord, never any softening of the emnity of them. I’m shocked they have any contact with outsiders at all.

And seriously.. never make them a playable race. Not until the Canthan tribes are available.

If I recall correctly, all the Tengu tribes are now in the Dominion. The Canthan tribes fled north after the rise of Zhaitan and built the Dominion of Winds. So they’re already there.

Kalarchis.8635:

Opening up the Dominion during the destruction of the city and introducing Tengu as playable shortly after would be a wonderful move. This is absolutely the perfect opportunity to bring them into the fold and I think Anet would be making a huge mistake not to.

An event like this reinforces the value of the wall, it certainly doesn’t give them an incentive to open up. The wall is supposed to protect them, a war like this (most of the factions involved are the same race as the playable ones) will reinforce to the tengu why they keep out of things. It’s only when the tengu are threatened from inside the wall that they will need to leave (and Primordius is already doing that).

Yet, imho, the destruction of Lion’s Arch is exactly what was needed to make them playable – lion’s arch and the dominion of the winds were too nearby, after all.
Imho, what will happen is that the ruins of lion’s arch will be contamined by the powdered-up toxic spores, making them uninhabitable. During the next two living stories there will be negotiations with the tengu’s, and it will end with us getting access to the dominion of the winds and probably some sort of encampment built there to accomodate all the refugees, making it the new central hub. Along with it, with the content and balancing patch released after the end of the first season of the living story, tengu may be made a playable race.

nm. I just read the retcon. Apparently Tengu were capable of what humanity could not do.

They have reason to be wary of the other races, since their kind had been slaughtered like farm animals by the thousands almost 300 years ago, just for their “feathers”. If they opened their doors, who knows, people might start feather farming once again. Never forget.

It’s cool this time! We have no bank slots for feathers anymore! Come out and play, Tengu!

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

According to this timeline , the Tengu’s exodus began long before Zhaitan rose Orr from the depths. So it might be true that the Tengu in the Dominion of winds are actually from Cantha, or mixed in with the Krytan tengu.

I imagine that Tengu chargen would involve picking your tribe, like Charr choose a Legion, or Asura a college. Level 1-10 personal story would involve adventures dealing with the tribal politics, perhaps.

I would love for this to be the case, however the destruction of Lion’s Arch would make the tengu less likely to ally with the other races, if anything. Plus, I’d have really expected some kind of foreshadowing by now, given how much we know about other elements of the upcoming story.

However, I can definitely see the tengu having a hand in the rebuilding of Lion’s Arch, and deciding to open the gates of the Dominion of Winds (and thus becoming a playable race) at the end of season two…

No Tengu have been featured in any living story events. What makes you think arena net is going to involve Tengu now? I’m willing to bet that the Tengu npcs are still going to say the same thing before and after LA armageddon. In fact, I don’t think arena net acknowledges their existence in the first place

Steel Fenrir.2791:

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

According to this timeline , the Tengu’s exodus began long before Zhaitan rose Orr from the depths. So it might be true that the Tengu in the Dominion of winds are actually from Cantha, or mixed in with the Krytan tengu.

Oh, So, 1225 is “long Before” 1219, got it. But who cares, lore means nothing here

1225 AE The tengu from around the world migrate to Tyria and establish the Dominion of Winds, erecting a great wall encircling it. (approx.)
1220 AE Divinity’s Reach is founded in the Krytan province of Shaemoor.
1219 AE Zhaitan, the Elder Undead Dragon, awakens. Orr rises from the sea. Lion’s Arch floods. Contact with Cantha severed.

I think the main timeline points are:

1127 AE Emperor Usoku defeats the Kurzicks and the Luxon, unifies Cantha and begins purging non-humans and political enemies.
1219 AE Zhaitan, the Elder Undead Dragon, awakens. Orr rises from the sea. Lion’s Arch floods. Contact with Cantha severed.
1225 AE The tengu from around the world migrate to Tyria and establish the Dominion of Winds, erecting a great wall encircling it. (approx.)

So during 1127-1219, the Tengu could have fled Cantha and slowly migrated to the north. It was only in 1225 that the Dominion of Winds was established, presumably they were scattered throughout Kryta before that time until the undead threat came and they banded together, ever wary of the other races since the Tengu that migrated to Tyria might have already been second or third generation Tengu since the time of their persecution in Cantha.

ok this is how i see it going down.
This patch scarlet attacks LA and pushes everyone out to the vigil fort. Then starts drilling in LA.
Next patch the hero’s unit and plan to attack scarlet head on, scarlet sends the twisted marionette and most of her minions to cornucopian fields and stop the hero’s in there tracks. The hero’s prepare for a fight the know so well and get in there lanes, but scarlet has moved the lanes around. As lane one get wiped out because they face lane 2 mechanics and don’t understand why even when they attack from behind the champion doesn’t take damage. Hope started to fail and trolling starts on map chat all is lost the marionette is about to unleash her killer attack then nothing.
Meanwhile in LA with the hero’s certain death in hand scarlet goes even more mad and laugh and throw bombs everywhere. The out of nowhere a loud voice booms though LA, “Will someone please shut that nutter up”. Then with a loud BOOM the door of the dominion of wind flies open and a massive tengu army is standing there lead by there emperor. He bellows “STOP KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR” and draws his mighty bow and with one shot hits scarlet and send her flying into the mystic forge. Zommoros lets out a mighty moan and after a few minutes throws out a leaf of kudzu which the emperor picks up then turns his army around then goes back home to build his legendary.

Or we found out scarlet have also somehow recruited the tengus to help her.

Dzent.2750:

ok this is how i see it going down.
The out of nowhere a loud voice booms though LA, “Will someone please shut that nutter up”. Then with a loud BOOM the door of the dominion of wind flies open and a massive tengu army is standing there lead by there emperor. He bellows “STOP KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR” and draws his mighty bow and with one shot hits scarlet and send her flying into the mystic forge. Zommoros lets out a mighty moan and after a few minutes throws out a leaf of kudzu which the emperor picks up then turns his army around then goes back home to build his legendary.

This would be the most awesome ending

Steel Fenrir.2791:

They have reason to be wary of the other races, since their kind had been slaughtered like farm animals by the thousands almost 300 years ago, just for their “feathers”. If they opened their doors, who knows, people might start feather farming once again. Never forget.

If the door were to open and we’d be able to interact with Tengu, and even play as Tengu, I wouldn’t be surprised if there will be a movement within the Tengu like the renegades and separatists you find in Ascalon that will fight anyone who supports the interaction with other races.

If Mordremoth awakens after the scarlet arc and travels to the Maguma Jungle, much in the same way of Kralkatorrik it would cause extensive damage to the Dominion of Winds. Playable Tengu is quite a distinct possibility if you think about it.

But the fact that no Tengu character in game have changed dialogue or have we had any inclusion of them in the Living Story does put a dampener on the idea.

We had a character slot promotion recently and I never got any. I would definitely buy a couple of new slots if I could make an Avicara brave.

Tengu are just a bunch of flying chicken. They run from everything ..they never help out consistently and they just close the doors shut from the problems of the world around them.

I don’t expect them to appear any time soon. It wouldn’t surprise me if they chicken out again to another area of the map and pretend they did it because they are peaceful.

I guess I can forgive people for not noticing, but there was a minor involvement from a few tengu in the LS. When the Tower of Nightmares went up, Ireko Trading Post (to the south) was regularly attacked by krait and Nightmare Courtiers, which their guards would fight off. There were a couple of related dynamic events where the Toxic Alliance would come steal their stuff, and in one you had to fight them off, while the other was an escort mission for a dolyak caravan to resupply the camp.

It’s definitely nothing major, but it wasn’t zero participation or changes.

They were just defending their territory the moderators spawned them in. They have been at that post since the start. It’s not like they appeared specially to defend them.

Might as well be forgotten there…and their AI doing what any guard-AI does…shoots and stuff with red names.

Not consistent enough to even make me think about it. It could have very well been lemings instead of tengu. Same stuff.

Where were they when we fought Zhaitan..when all the scarlet attacks happened…when LA itself was attacked by karka which is on their doorstep through LA….when players were facing the poison from the toxic alliance which was happening even on the map next to theirs… They never contributed with literally anything else then defending a caravan.

Sry but they did literally nothing in this game but fly away from their problems or ignoring them. They are kind of a pathetic race really worth petty. We did more to help them indirectly by taking care of the problems they ran away from then they ever did in this game.

They didn’t head down to the water on that side previously, though – that was where the asura were camped out. And the dynamic events definitely were new.

Yes they didn’t run in to help..they just sat on that hill protecting their stuff (like they always do). They didn’t give a rats kitten about what was happening around them..they just cared about their fixed posts. Even so they didn’t do a great job defending their own stuff lol.

I honestly don’t see why ppl are so hyped about this chicken race. They have literally nothing or done nothing to ever want to “be” like them. If anything i would want to have a race that is the opposite of what they do and have opposite values.

Though I doubt it will happen, if Scarlet’s forces kill the guards at the gate, and they start to try and breach it; the Tengu might be forced to get involved.

They will get heavily involved in keeping the door shut.

OK, you are definitely seeing the same stuff that I am, then. From the perspectives I gained in GW1 I am drawing somewhat different conclusions but you’re entitled to your opinion on the tengu

So they gathered all of the worlds Tengu in the dominion.

One tribe that could co-exist, barely, with humanity, and all of the others that would gut a human on sight. The huge majority being the KOS variety.

Even the small faction not overtly hostile to humanity was mistreated by the Ministry of Purity and many Canthan.. and supposedly purged from Cantha later.

I doubt that 200 plus years of isolationism has somehow moderated the views of the majority of Tengu. The vast bulk of them hated humanity and there is nothing remotely hinted that would have changed that.

Thinking at this point that they will throw their doors open to human refugees is very unrealistic to me.

But a few lines in some obscure fansite interview by a single Anet writer could undo all of that. Retcon trumps lore now. Anything is possible and probable.

Scoundrel.2139:

Just wandering around LA. This speech made by Honestcrest made me wonder whether we will get Tengu allies against Scarlet. Or, not being great with remembering lore at all, is this in relation to something I’ve missed?

“What’s this place?”

" This is our dwelling, the Dominion of Winds. We keep watch from this perch as power shifts and the world is transformed. We must soon determine with whom we will fight and with whom we will ally."

Edit: just added quotation marks

You heard it here first kids :P

i think Largos should to something too…

Scoundrel.2139:

Scoundrel.2139:

Just wandering around LA. This speech made by Honestcrest made me wonder whether we will get Tengu allies against Scarlet. Or, not being great with remembering lore at all, is this in relation to something I’ve missed?

“What’s this place?”

" This is our dwelling, the Dominion of Winds. We keep watch from this perch as power shifts and the world is transformed. We must soon determine with whom we will fight and with whom we will ally."

Edit: just added quotation marks

You heard it here first kids :P

What are the Tengu going to see? Humans, charr, Sylvari, Asura fighting Humans, charr, sylvari and Asura allied with a couple mongrel races led by a Sylvari.

Why would they involve themselves in this?

If Scarlett or her minions get to close to the Tengu they will all just do the bird dance and confuse her messed up mind even more. She wont be able to handle it and just decide to leave them WELL alone and move on.

Piscore.6934:

This is the best time to negotiate the Tengu help other races? or we will help evacuate the wounded / refugee from LA?

/discuss

Some people just like to watch the world burn.

My guess is after Scarlett is done with LA the Tengu will expand their wall around LA and incorporate it into the Dominion of Winds just to kitten all the races off.

That would make for an unneccessary twist. it will feel like taking an average story and making it worst just to introduce a not interesting race.

PREDICTION: LA will be destroyed. After a bit of time the Tengu will open up the Dominion of Wind and their city will become the new hub of the world. Shortly after, you will be able to create Tengu as a playable race with the purchase of gems.

Then, the old LA will become an explorable area with enemies swarming into the desolated lands.

Ah, look at all the wishful thinking.

Tengu NPC’s might be out and about, but I doubt it’ll go so far as to unlocking the zone. Besides, the Shuttered Gate doesn’t even make sense geographically speaking. The actual Dominion is way west of LA.

@wookiee I know right, all these people getting excited. They must have not been with ANET long. ANET likes to take cool and fun ideas and replace it with boring grind. All the good content like bazaar of the four winds is temporary.

Rebound.3409:

Sry but they did literally nothing in this game but fly away from their problems or ignoring them.

Hahahaha.

If the Sensali are still around, you’re lucky the wall is there.

So much wishful thinking going on in this thread. Neither this update nor the next (conclusion) will:
– open the Dominion of the Wind for exploration
– make the tengu a playable race

Anyone thinking either of the two is going to happen is setting themselves up for some serious disappointment.

My crystal ball says expansion this early summer, they will be the new playable race.