Guild Wars 2

I’m a vet fractals runner.

I know them all by heart and I cringe just as much as anyone when the dredge or harpy fractal come up, but I go through them anyway. I was miffed at the little changes they made to some of them to prevent “skipping” or “exploiting” features (see: sneaking behind the jade maw and pulling the dredge boss out of the room) but understood they were for a good reason. These changes have not had any negative impact on my fractal experience and in fact provided a better challenge which I found more enjoyable.

My current fractal level is over 30.

I do not feel like I am losing anything with the change. I feel I am being rewarded with a new chance to prove my ability in new content and earn better rewards. If you feel the same as I do please post here and let the developers know I’m not alone.

If you feel like your gameplay experience has been hurt by this, there is already another thread for that.

Keep up the good work, devs. I look forward to spending my extra 2 days off checking out the new content this team worked on, and on any character I choose to.

Depending on what they say is better rewards it’s a good thing. If the rewards are still not worth the time then it doesn’t really matter that they changed it.

How much over 30? 5 or 50? :P

Sure, we all appreciate their efforts but we don’t just want our efforts completely forgotten. Few tweaks and most of the complainers would fully support the change.

I’m waiting to see the livestream so that we can have some idea about how much instabilities will variate the content, but i’m overall fine with the change as it is.

I was only 49 and stopped doing fractals a long time ago, don’t care about level reset. Not sure why those at 80 care as the whole point I assume was personal challenge and assured rewards. Surely by this point they had the rewards they wanted, and you can’t take away what they already accomplished so…

I’m waiting to see what the Instabilities actually are before I form an opinion. They could be game-changing for the better, or they could be incredibly lame and just keep 31-50 as a snore-fest like it always has been, but even moreso since the curve is being modified.

I’m just glad they did something interesting with the difficulty.

khefka.2804:

I was only 49 and stopped doing fractals a long time ago, don’t care about level reset. Not sure why those at 80 care as the whole point I assume was personal challenge and assured rewards. Surely by this point they had the rewards they wanted, and you can’t take away what they already accomplished so…

err.. karma farm perhaps…. ? from my understanding, the bigger the gap, the more karma you get…..

PopeUrban.2578:

I’m just glad they did something interesting with the difficulty.

I’m not yet convinced. I’d wait before judging it but I’m pessimistic.

I wonder how much gold for level 30-50 for daily. Hopefully better than 3g+ cause fractals are longer and harder than arah.

no 1 forced you to go above 50.

considering the AR cap 50 was intended to be the hard cap for fractals with current AR scaleing. so please stop complaining that anet revamped fractals and reset every 1 to 30.

I don’t fractal yet, but don’t the changes they’re making to the fractals essentially make your levels meaningless now anyway? I mean, you earned 50+ in the old fractals…these new fractals with Instabilities are a different animal. Technically, you’ve earned 0 fractal levels with the new Mistlock Instabilities so you’re losing nothing. Have to earn your way to the top of these now.

And it’s fine to make stuff meaningless?

Wethospu.6437:

And it’s fine to make stuff meaningless?

It’s fine to add challenges and new fractals for players asking for new permanent content, especially when the current content is being played by some to a degree that the devs didn’t expect (ex: lvl 70 fractals).

You’re stuck on the word meaningless and not on the fact that new stuff has been added and your progression through the old is =/= to your progression in the new. Earn it.

You haven’t done fractals at all and you are telling me to “earn it”?

Wethospu.6437:

And it’s fine to make stuff meaningless?

It is fine to make things meaningless so long as nobody loses anything, and with these changes, no one has lost anything. Players keep every reward they’ve earned while playing FoTM. The only change is an arbitrary number.

If people really care that much, they can get a Post-It, write “Personal Reward Level: 80”, and stick it to the upper right corner of their monitors. It accomplishes the same exact thing that it would have previously, which is displaying a number only you can see.

Technically you don’t own anything in this game. So whatever they do nobody loses anything. Just wipe all gold, you can write numbers on paper if you really care.

Wethospu.6437:

You haven’t done fractals at all and you are telling me to “earn it”?

My experience or lack thereof with any facet of a game does not effect you having to earn your fractal levels. If I wanted to attain the same thing, I’d have to earn it as well.

I’m not being snide, I’m issuing the same challenge Anet has. The devs have added a new facet to fractals. For those proud of exceeding the previous soft-cap of 50, they can now be proud of earning their way to the cap with the added challenge of Mistlock Instabilities.

Most likely scenario is that it will be way easier than current scale 70-80. So proving my worth seems quite pointless. Just seems like extra grind added for no reason.

I don’t like the leaderboards. Silly implementation and I don’t see the point.

I especially don’t like my levels being reset because of it.

Instabilities should start at 50 in my opinion. The 80s should not be reset, and they should be allowed to try 80 on day 1. If they can’t do it, good, they have a challenge. If they can, well then they should be able to instantly skip to the end, since it’s a time gate and not a skill gate.

All around it’s silly implementation that caters to the casual player.

I like the sound of a lot of the changes, but I’m withholding judgement until I actually see how well they are implemented.

JMar.3254:

I don’t like the leaderboards. Silly implementation and I don’t see the point.

Considering we don’t know absolutely anything about said leaderboards apart from the fact they exist, it seems a bit early to bash’em already for their implementation.
At least let’s see the livestream to decide upon that.

Manuhell.2759:

JMar.3254:

I don’t like the leaderboards. Silly implementation and I don’t see the point.

Considering we don’t know absolutely anything about said leaderboards apart from the fact they exist, it seems a bit early to bash’em already for their implementation.
At least let’s see the livestream to decide upon that.

I know that I have no interest in comparing myself to others. I know that Anet has stated that is the reason that they are resetting levels.

I don’t see any way they could make it so I cared about leaderboards, especially for the sake of resetting my progress.

Do not care about the leaderboards. I think the leaderboards are meaningless.

I am excited about the upcoming changes, and have high hopes that they will be fun. I just hope they don’t dissapoint

All my 8 toons are 30, 5 above 40, a couple above 50. I do not care about the being sent back to 30.

That said, there is a lot of other changes I consider necessary that are not being mentioned. The currency exchange for example (pristine and fractal relics) has not been mentioned once. Even when we asked repeatedly.

All of these changes could have been made without the clunky agony mechanics, the level reset or the leaderboards that nobody wanted.

Then again, we said the same when ascended gear was released and we were ignored back then. Why will it be different this time?

i am not happy

JMar.3254:

Manuhell.2759:

JMar.3254:

I don’t like the leaderboards. Silly implementation and I don’t see the point.

Considering we don’t know absolutely anything about said leaderboards apart from the fact they exist, it seems a bit early to bash’em already for their implementation.
At least let’s see the livestream to decide upon that.

I know that I have no interest in comparing myself to others. I know that Anet has stated that is the reason that they are resetting levels.

I don’t see any way they could make it so I cared about leaderboards, especially for the sake of resetting my progress.

After the livestream, i can say i agree with your first post.

I like it. I reached scale 30 today after some hard work. But I sincerely believe those above 30 should be compensated. Maybe 2 gold per level of FotM that gets reset? Or something. I don’t know. Just doesn’t seem right to the poor kittens who bought countless revive orbs to get to 80+.

They should definitely be compensated for their hard work. A system is meant to be broken, the fact that they broke through the caps by “abusing” exploits is what made ANet aware of them and able to patch them. They’ve done ANet a great service and it wasn’t easy for them to do.

Maybe make an “old” leaderboard of whoever is highest currently and reward them thereafter with titles or such that will be exclusive to them for being able to destroy ANets content.

I think higher level fractals NEEDED new mechanics and rewards. Around lvl 30 is when fractals really start becoming challenging, and honestly it was just a “here are more, stronger mobs and higher health pools” before. I think the change is needed, and I welcome it.

OT: I also applaud their decision to make the easier fractals harder and the harder fractals easier. I think that needed to happen.

I do think they’re out of their minds to consider “cliffside” to be an “easy” fractal though. Another one of those “do they even play this game?” moments.

I don’t care about the reset.
I don’t base my worth on a number on the top right corner on the screen or the time I spent in game or the number of rez kit I used to glitch my way up to 80 (I didn’t glitch above 50 at all).
What I care about is new content that seems good so far (livestream + announcement).
What I care about is having fun and challenging content that is more than a larger health pool or one shot attacks.
And guess what ? we also get the cherry on the top with better reward on forth.