Guild Wars 2

Who else loves them? I absolutely LOVE people who walk by.

I don’t rez them because I don’t want a competition waiting in the queue, you should blame designers with their bullkitten that you have to teleport to wp instead rez near arena.

I always rez them, some nice conversations at the gauntlet

rev when I can unless i’m running some expensive buffs then maybe after

I don’t rez if I’m next up (or if I think I’m next up) – there’s not enough time

I always res if I can. I even start to res knowing I am about to enter. Lets be honest here, you are usually stood about waiting to enter. Why not use those few seconds to res someone. I mean you only have to stand next to them and press “F”. Not difficult.

I know right, its not that difficult…

Its also not difficult to be a good person and obey the easy down/defeated rules of pve, if downed, help, if defeated let them rot for being lazy.

Gasoline.2570:

Who else loves them? I absolutely LOVE people who walk by.

I stoped to rez someone… they ran up immediately and joined the queue… Taking a spot ahead of me… Never doing that again

Psychol.5783:

I don’t rez them because I don’t want a competition waiting in the queue, you should blame designers with their bullkitten that you have to teleport to wp instead rez near arena.

Although not very ethical, is a very valid point.

You can’t design something that will make players look at other players as competition and expect all of them to help others get ahead of them.

Every death in the guantlet is a death Anet could have prevented.

Andele.1306:

Its also not difficult to be a good person and obey the easy down/defeated rules of pve, if downed, help, if defeated let them rot for being lazy.

The down/defeated thing is meant for pve events where everyone is combat. This is because ressing someone while in combat is painfully slow, takes away dps, and might get you killed. So they’ll get back to the fight just as quickly if they use a waypoint.

Trying to apply that to a situation where you’re out of combat and just standing around waiting anyway is pretty stupid.

Psychol.5783:

I don’t rez them because I don’t want a competition waiting in the queue, you should blame designers with their bullkitten that you have to teleport to wp instead rez near arena.

But if you are already in the queue then you have no reason NOT to res them. You are already placed in the queue.

I usually don’t ress because I’m after the achievements, and every player I ress makes my queue longer. I’m aware that others may view me as an kitten, but this could have been prevented if the Gauntlet had no deaths, more cages or was instanced. I hope Arenanet learns from this and doesn’t attempt something like the Gauntlet again.

Trabia.3650:

I usually don’t ress because I’m after the achievements, and every player I ress makes my queue longer. I’m aware that others may view me as an kitten, but this could have been prevented if the Gauntlet had no deaths, more cages or was instanced. I hope Arenanet learns from this and doesn’t attempt something like the Gauntlet again.

How does it make your queue longer. You speak to the Ringmaster and you are placed in a queue. Ressing someone does not place you further back in the queue, you are already in the queue. I have never been knocked down the queue for ressing someone. If this were the case then I think ArenaNet would be getting 100’s of complaints on hte forums.

To me it sounds like you have a “Me, me, me” attitude

You all are missing the point. Lets say Mike, John, and Bob are at the gauntlet. Mike is in the gauntlet, John is waiting in line, and Bob is dead. If bob stays dead, then Mike and John only have one person to wait for. But if they rez Bob, they will have to instead wait for two people instead of one.

Gasoline.2570:

Who else loves them? I absolutely LOVE people who walk by.

Thats why I joined ‘I don’t give a lollipop about Liadri Club’ down below where always you find a helping hand, even in fierce combat.

Only times I don’t ressurect someone, is when I am AFK. Please keep in mind that some players may be AFK and not trying to be jerks by not ressurecting you. Some have queued up before you died, and as such gets ported in before they have time to ressurect you, and so on forth. I’m sure some people also just want to avoid ressurecting, and then having that person run quickly over to queue up again without them being able to have a go. Had that happen more than once.

Can we make the complaints about people you ressurect not even letting you have a go before they enter again as well?

Missywink.7162:

How does it make your queue longer. You speak to the Ringmaster and you are placed in a queue. Ressing someone does not place you further back in the queue, you are already in the queue. I have never been knocked down the queue for ressing someone. If this were the case then I think ArenaNet would be getting 100’s of complaints on hte forums.

What’s not to understand? I always look for an empty cage with a partner. When other players join and keep getting ressed, it will only encourage them to stay at the same cage and queue again. It means extra waiting time for me. I have no issue with ressing dead players when I walk past them, but when I’m after the harder achievements it is kittening annoying to wait an extra 1-10 minutes before it’s my turn again.

To me it sounds like you have a “Me, me, me” attitude

I want to decide when I play my single-player content.

Archon.6481:

You all are missing the point. Lets say Mike, John, and Bob are at the gauntlet. Mike is in the gauntlet, John is waiting in line, and Bob is dead. If bob stays dead, then Mike and John only have one person to wait for. But if they rez Bob, they will have to instead wait for two people instead of one.

John is already in queue, so he’s only waiting one person. If Bob is resurrected, then he goes into the queue after John. If he is not resurrected, then he waypoints, runs back, and then still goes into the queue after John, while Mike is now in Bob’s situation.

Trabia.3650:

What’s not to understand? I always look for an empty cage with a partner. When other players join and keep getting ressed, it will only encourage them to stay at the same cage and queue again. It means extra waiting time for me. I have no issue with ressing dead players when I walk past them, but when I’m after the harder achievements it is kittening annoying to wait an extra 1-10 minutes before it’s my turn again.

I want to decide when I play my single-player content.

So how would you feel if people didnt res you ? That would put a dent in your oh so important timetable. Seriously, it amazes me how selfish people are.

Missywink.7162:

So how would you feel if people didnt res you ? That would put a dent in your oh so important timetable. Seriously, it amazes me how selfish people are.

You still don’t get it, do you? The Gauntlet is a boss rush mode. It is single-player content. I wish to play it at my own leisure, without queues (or a paywall for that matter). An extra 5 minutes may not seem much to you, but when you’ve been playing for 1-2 hours, then an extra 30-60 minutes spent waiting is a lot of time.
Imagine this; you want to finish a story instance, but the game forces you to enter a queue because another player is already doing the same story step. I can’t imagine anyone would be okay with this.

Having a system where people have to queue up for an arena, but have their corpses callously tossed out of that arena where, if left alone, they cannot readily reenter the queue is just seemingly designed to promote a lack of community cooperation… I don’t understand why they don’t just place dead competitors outside the arena after 5 seconds so they can reenter the queue without a WP fee and a long walk.

I don’t rez because i don’t usually get a thank you i get a rushing player hurrying to try to que que. And people don’t rez me so why rez anyone.

I refuse to rez people who don’t rez, but rez everyone else. I even have a list. I’ve caught out 9 people so far and explained to them why I wasn’t rezzing them in public chat. Best was one guy who started to get a rez from others til I said something. then he lay there at 90% while all ignored him.

Maybe it’s just because we’re on TC but everyone almost always resurrects the person who is dead at the arena. The ideal situation is to have 3 people at one arena. One person resurrects well the other fights, then you fight while the person in queue resurrects and then when you die the person waiting resurrects you. Minimal waiting time for everyone and no WP costs. If you are feeling selfish then make sure you put yourself in the queue before resurrecting.

Trabia.3650:

Missywink.7162:

So how would you feel if people didnt res you ? That would put a dent in your oh so important timetable. Seriously, it amazes me how selfish people are.

You still don’t get it, do you? The Gauntlet is a boss rush mode. It is single-player content. I wish to play it at my own leisure, without queues (or a paywall for that matter). An extra 5 minutes may not seem much to you, but when you’ve been playing for 1-2 hours, then an extra 30-60 minutes spent waiting is a lot of time.
Imagine this; you want to finish a story instance, but the game forces you to enter a queue because another player is already doing the same story step. I can’t imagine anyone would be okay with this.

Yes, but if no one is resurrecting, you’re not saving time overall because you have to run back to the arena.

Madcat.2379:

The ideal situation is to have 3 people at one arena. One person resurrects well the other fights, then you fight while the person in queue resurrects and then when you die the person waiting resurrects you. Minimal waiting time for everyone and no WP costs. If you are feeling selfish then make sure you put yourself in the queue before resurrecting.

^ This is the most effective setup – A res trio. Yes i’ve made some good friends and we joke about how we officially become res buddies thanks to this event.

I rez and get rezed, both on home server and in overflow. Nobody has ever tried to cut in line. There’s plenty of gauntlets and I always stick to a less crowded one, maybe the people who do the same are smarter, more mature and don’t feel threaten by rezing others.

I always res because the Gauntlet kills everyone eventually.
I have never had to wait long in a que and I’ve met some really nice people

I think there should be a NPC to rezz players. The NPC can walk around in a circle on the platform.

Because as the event goes on. There will be fewer players in the gauntlet.

I rez more often than not, but I GET FREAKING TIRED OF IT! ppl standing in aoe, or using arenas and I watch how quick they die over and over and over again keeping me from getting my rhythm of my current difficulty. Also take off your kitten MF gear if you wanna live longer. I know ppl are mainly using MF cause I take so much freaking aggro with my celestial gear which has enough MF for me plus ppl know they’re squishy ‘cause they stand all bunched up in bottle necked areas waiting for a small hand of some type of bunker to go in and start. Lastly if ppl keep dropping, and the boss is going down fast, and I haven’t even tagged em yet.

Shame on anyone who doesn’t rez. How hard is it to stand next to someone and press F, and make their day better?

Earlier it was me and a stranger at a dome, we would take turns and rez each other then queue up and repeat. Had a friendly chat and it was all-around pleasant.

On the flip side, again it was me and another stranger at the dome, he came up and saw me, rezzed me for 2 seconds, and then queued and died. I mean… what? There was -no one- else around, would it really kill you to rez me? I made a note not to rez him next time he died.

It’s really not a big deal. Spare someone the walking, get some EXP. Then again, I only play in the early morning when no-one is around, so I don’t care about queue times.

It’s badly designed. The game is about cooperation, yet this new content forces you to wait if more people are present. People who farm or don’t want to wait won’tres you, simple as that. Do not only blame the players. It’s also bad design.

Miku.6297:

Gasoline.2570:

Who else loves them? I absolutely LOVE people who walk by.

I stoped to rez someone… they ran up immediately and joined the queue… Taking a spot ahead of me… Never doing that again

if they’re ahead of you on the queue, when you die, they’ll rez you.

the ideal arena is the one with only 3 people: one fighting, one next in queue, and the third is second in queue.

Let’s see here..

Why ress is good?
- Good for community.
- No need to run a ridiculously long way up.
- No need to pay for waypoint.

Why ress is pointless?
- Waypointing back to center will let you choose npc bonus (endurance, regen etc).

Why ress is bad?
- Queue gets full and you’ll have to wait forever for you turn.

I really don’t understand the need to toss you out dead out there. And why is it queued? Just seems like a pointless annoyance.

I feel like the karma helps me, when I beat Liadri, I rezzed someone before queing, I literally told him as he said thank you: “No problem, I hope this karma works in my favor now :p”

Trabia.3650:

You still don’t get it, do you? The Gauntlet is a boss rush mode. It is single-player content. I wish to play it at my own leisure, without queues (or a paywall for that matter).

The gauntlets are behind both a queue and a paywall. You need tickets to get into them, and you get said tickets from doing non-Gauntlet things. So not only will you have to stop doing the Gauntlet when you might be in a groove and moving through it well, but you also have to queue up repeatedly for each fight. Waste of time and more time.

Has ANet not figured out we’re not going anywhere? They don’t have to put artificial timesinks into the game to get us to keep playing. In fact, most of us would play more if they weren’t wasting so much of our time. The one upside in getting tickets, at least, is that you can do the escort quests fairly quickly. One of the two in a zone is almost always running. But it would still be better if there wasn’t a need for tickets.

And in writing this post, I realized why there are tickets. They force people to leave what would be an overcrowded location to go out and get more tickets, lightening the load on the area and enabling queues to be shorter.

Clever girl.

I don’t rez because time is money , and unless you going to pay me i aint rezzing you. However , people do rez me and i promptly give them a thank you and attempt to queue before they do , because im all about my gold!

I go up from time to time and res people fighting Liadri because I love to watch that fight.

I rez and also often get rezzed… however it doesn’t matter at all.

When you die, your dignitary buff wears off, so whether someone rezzes me or not, I still have to waypoint back to the dignitaries to get the buff back.

Sooooooooooooooo… this is really dumb either way. —>

MithranArkanere.8957:

Psychol.5783:

I don’t rez them because I don’t want a competition waiting in the queue, you should blame designers with their bullkitten that you have to teleport to wp instead rez near arena.

Although not very ethical, is a very valid point.

You can’t design something that will make players look at other players as competition and expect all of them to help others get ahead of them.

You know what happens when you don’t res people because you don’t want them in the queue.. you die and then you are there laying on top of them.. really annoying when people do this to me.. if you had ressed me I could have ressed you and we all would live wonderful lives.. waiting a few seconds while I battle isn’t such a big deal.

Thats the problem , alot of people aren’t very skilled in this game and tend to take years to do 1 simple gauntlet , take for instance the quaggan that expands , took a guy over 2 mins and he got dropped (i was soo happy) , i lost 2g watching this guy kite in circles for eternity it seemed like…its unbearable.

Gloam Drifter.9158:

MithranArkanere.8957:

Psychol.5783:

I don’t rez them because I don’t want a competition waiting in the queue, you should blame designers with their bullkitten that you have to teleport to wp instead rez near arena.

Although not very ethical, is a very valid point.

You can’t design something that will make players look at other players as competition and expect all of them to help others get ahead of them.

You know what happens when you don’t res people because you don’t want them in the queue.. you die and then you are there laying on top of them.. really annoying when people do this to me.. if you had ressed me I could have ressed you and we all would live wonderful lives.. waiting a few seconds while I battle isn’t such a big deal.

Not really, probably alot of people have ressed before mutiple times during the initial stages of the event and eventually just stopped,I’m one of those people – It is very tiresome to continually res someone, when you res that person another pops out, its an endless cycle, most cases people don’t even ask you for a res and they just lay there expecting you to do it.

I res players generally when they’re in a downed state, if they’re out cold, that’s their problem.

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

I don’t rez because time is money , and unless you going to pay me i aint rezzing you. However , people do rez me and i promptly give them a thank you and attempt to queue before they do , because im all about my gold!

I didn’t know Kevin O’Leary played GW2

I pick who I revive carefully.

If myself and a fellow player are lying on the gantry dead at the same time, I will go and revive at waypoint, run back. If they do not, I will not revive them. It’s unbelievably cheeky to just wait around perpetually for others to respawn so you don’t have to run back.

I think that they should consider when they design this content the following:
Is this content making the players compete for resources or not?

The sharing credit for kills, having your own loot and harvest nodes, being able to heal and rez each other promotes cooperation.

Some of the recent content has introduced competition for kills and other competitive elements that undoes the good that the game started out with.

Really?
You guys are just standing there in a que anyway what’s the big deal? Rez someone, so what? Some of you are acting like your “time is money” in a VIDEO GAME!

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

Thats the problem , alot of people aren’t very skilled in this game and tend to take years to do 1 simple gauntlet , take for instance the quaggan that expands , took a guy over 2 mins and he got dropped (i was soo happy) , i lost 2g watching this guy kite in circles for eternity it seemed like…its unbearable.

^This guy…
You “lost” 2 g?
Can’t pay your bills now?
Shut off your phone and electricity?
C’mon!

The NPCs should rez. For those times when you are on your own, for those times it’s you and one other person, for those times no one cares. Real people can still help to keep it ‘social’.