Guild Wars 2

well i guess this show what Anet thinks of mesmer in the pve game :/

1. truth be told destiny edge didnt had a mesmer unless snaff was one and god know snaff armor where (yes your guessed it) PURPLE wich by the way is mesmer color.
2. two bookah is one to many bookah

I kinda feel Kasmeer and Marjory should be switched. If we’re going by their ‘equals’, shouldn’t the smarter (at least on what we currently know), thus Marjory, be Zojja’s equal? And Kasmeer, the seemingly airhead of the group, be Logan?

Hobo-tron is a guild/hero all by himself. He doesn’t need support. He may need meatshields, but definitely doesn’t need support from us meatbags.

Illi.3647:

Shiren.9532:

When talking about it, they said Canach is a minor character (as is Kiel) while the new team are major characters. This implies that Canach won’t join the team. There is a male asura in the coming update who could be a new member, and we still haven’t met E yet. It’s possible that E is a sylvari (even an asura, although that’s a stretch).

They said however that they have plans for him in the livestream…But I don´t think he´ll make a good match for this kind of group. More of him will come, yes, but I hope not in this way.
I´m not so keen on seeing new Destiny´s Edge, was refusing to accept something like that the entire time, but with that asura comming, it´s actually happening for sure. But if they kill of Kasmeer, so that it´ll be as paralel to Snaff…that´ll be just stupid. If there are too many paralels, it´l not be believable at all.

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Yah I agree. Killing one off just to pull out the new DE would be stupid. Besides, until they officially state that the new group is indeed the DE 2.0 or something, I don’t think they will just kill one of them off so easily.
If you watch the LS 2013 live stream, they indeed say that they like those characters and they actually read fan works as an inspiration and to give players more what they want. I don’t think anybody wants any of those new characters killed off just to meet some kind of quota…it would be far too predictable and I personally am not a fan of “develop a character just so we could kill them off so you can feel sorry/invested” type of bs anymore. I’ve seen it too many times..most writers use that for shock value if nothing else.

Take Tybalt for example. His death was so pointless. When you think about it, how exactly did he “hold off” the undead behind those doors? He didn’t. The doors closed, and everybody else escaped. He took a good few minutes to talk with your character before the suicide…it’s not like he rushed off heroically in midst of tight battle to save everybody, he just casually walked through those gates and then closed them. Ofc, this goes for every mentor but Tibby was most likeable. So IMO, it was done for pure shock value. He’s probably the only really nicely developed and likeable character in the game…then they just killed him off. And gave us the bore fest known as Trahearne.

See, this is why I’m personally against killing off good characters. Not generally but in specific situations like these…and it’s so rare these days to find a good story that will have a great character live through disaster and come out victorious and developed. Usually they use death as a tool of “development” or if the character is “beyond redemption”. So yah, leave those new characters alone Anet and if you ever (I hope not) plan to kill one of them off, at least give us a good substitute. Guess I follow too many stories like Game of Thrones/Attack on Titan where I cringe at every new chapter in fear that one of my favorite characters is going to die next, since killing off characters seems to be popular now…

I like the original cast better. Braham is the only not annoying one out of all them and the only one I hope they keep alive.

I don’t think it’s likely that they kill Kasmeer before the new DE forms… If it forms. You have to remember that DE disbanded after Snaff’s death. It doesn’t make sense, if they were trying to have that parallel, to kill off the new “Snaff” before the group is actually officially the “new DE”.

I know it’s all speculation and stuff, but y’all shouldn’t be assuming that they’re going to kill off a character before they establish what the group actually is. What killing Kasmeer would do is break up the group, probably, as the folks would blame each other and they’d never form up and become what we would call the new DE.

killing her would form the group, marjory wants revenge, can’t do it alone, Bra+ rox have experience in thwarting parts of scarlets plans, and dispite initial frosty relationg between rox+ marjory they all team up with the asura (who’ll have some grudge v scarlet) and canach who is quite capable with vengence, just needs a personal aspect to direct it toward scarlet.

But for much of the lack of foreshadowing of scarlets story and motives, the tale and seeds for DE2 is soundly placed if you look for it and quite deliberate (imho).

pswendel.8179:

Marjory and Canach have no role hunting down elder dragons. Rox and Braham…perhaps, but are entirely Scarlett related from Flame and Frost.

The entire L’S season 1 cast is Scarlet oriented. It would take a large leap for them to go from the current line of revenge/meddling in Mary Sue’s plans to ridding the world of dragons.

Scarlet is just the driver that brings them together for the rest of the story, probably. Maybe her various alliance are sort of aligned with the strengths of each member. The unknown Asura (maybe an associate of Emissary Vorpp?) might have knowledge of watchwork machines, Marjory has experience investigating the Aetherblades, Canach’s use of the Fervid Censer and botanical expertise suggest he is ideal for fighting the Toxic Alliance, etc.

As far as having no role hunting down elder dragons — sounds like an opportunity for a character arc.

I think the speculation about Canach being the final member is promising. I wonder how they plan to bring him into the story. Maybe the Southsun arc isn’t entirely done? Or maybe that’s the point behind Kasmeer’s incident in the Nightmare tower — not to die, but to create a situation where she is poisoned beyond Marjory’s expertise, such that the only person with that much expertise on plant toxins and spores is Canach. Then the players have to bust him out of jail, or Marjory finds dirt on Ellen Kiel, or something along those lines.

As long as I’m tossing totally random speculation around, Kasmeer will be saved because she is “Mr. E”. “E” standing for “Evennia” (though also for “mystery”) which is why she’s such an asskicking Mesmer and could reveal the ToN. Granted, Evennia was a Monk, but when you have that much time on your hands, and a very strong need to hide the fact of the immortality of the Shining Blade’s leadership… plus, the profession is gone.

It makes more sense than “E” being “Evon” or “Ellen”, given the circumstances of Marjory’s departure from the Ministry — dark magic and murderous Ministers, which points much more to the shadow war between White Mantle sympathizers and the Shining Blade than it does to anything in Lion’s Arch.

But anyway, despite surviving, my guess is she will probably feel it is wiser to step back and let DE2 handle things at that point, so functionally the same result. Alternatively, she might decide that the time is right for the Kasmeer persona to “die”, and let it seem like Canach’s cure failed.

EDIT: Then it would also make Kasmeer more of a Snaff — that is, old, wise, powerful, and something of a mentor to Marjory, even if Marjory doesn’t know it.

@CharrGirl
My point exactly…and death of the mentor isn´t only one death for the sake of death in personal story…Maybe he just needed to close the door and thus give us time, but I don´t buy that. It´d be emotional for the first time, but after that when you just know they will die next. If they have to kill someone, let it not be just some random death. But on the other hand, if they indeed kill Kasmeer, at least we know her for some time now. There are many deaths of just random characters that appeared in previous story step, now they are killed and we feel noting for them, because we don´t know them

My hopes for this:

Kasmeer becomes very sick due to the thorn that stuck her. Marjory can’t cure her, so they get a hold of Canach (by force, if need be) and ask for his help. As he and the new asura work for a cure, Kasmeer slips further away, and Marjory becomes pretty much useless as all she can do is watch the person she cares for most dies.

Rytlock tells Rox to stop messing around with these idiots, and get back to the Black Citadel for yet another assignment that might convince him that she’s good enough to add to the Stone warband. She snaps at him and tells him he can stuff his assignment up his tailhole, she’s found her warband. She grabs Brahm, slaps some sense and anger back into Marjory, and dives into action. Calling on the players for help, Rox leads an attack on Scarlet before her latest plan can go into action (that’s right, the heroes take the lead finally). While Rox and her group smash down on Scarlet’s forces like the fist of an angry god (bonus if they steal an Aetherblade airship to do this with), you use the diversion to get in and confront Scarlet.

Caught off guard by us taking the initiative and the suddenness of Rox’s assault, Scarlet’s finally caught without a good escape route, and we finally catch her. We get the antidote, and Brahm snaps Scarlet’s neck, ending her threat once and for all.

Kasmeer starts to slowly recover, and everyone decides that they’re going to work together for now on, with Rox as the team leader.

Palador.2170:

My hopes for this:

Kasmeer becomes very sick due to the thorn that stuck her. Marjory can’t cure her, so they get a hold of Canach (by force, if need be) and ask for his help. As he and the new asura work for a cure, Kasmeer slips further away, and Marjory becomes pretty much useless as all she can do is watch the person she cares for most dies.

Rytlock tells Rox to stop messing around with these idiots, and get back to the Black Citadel for yet another assignment that might convince him that she’s good enough to add to the Stone warband. She snaps at him and tells him he can stuff his assignment up his tailhole, she’s found her warband. She grabs Brahm, slaps some sense and anger back into Marjory, and dives into action. Calling on the players for help, Rox leads an attack on Scarlet before her latest plan can go into action (that’s right, the heroes take the lead finally). While Rox and her group smash down on Scarlet’s forces like the fist of an angry god (bonus if they steal an Aetherblade airship to do this with), you use the diversion to get in and confront Scarlet.

Caught off guard by us taking the initiative and the suddenness of Rox’s assault, Scarlet’s finally caught without a good escape route, and we finally catch her. We get the antidote, and Brahm snaps Scarlet’s neck, ending her threat once and for all.

Kasmeer starts to slowly recover, and everyone decides that they’re going to work together for now on, with Rox as the team leader.

I approve of this.

Palador.2170:

My hopes for this:

Kasmeer becomes very sick due to the thorn that stuck her. Marjory can’t cure her, so they get a hold of Canach (by force, if need be) and ask for his help. As he and the new asura work for a cure, Kasmeer slips further away, and Marjory becomes pretty much useless as all she can do is watch the person she cares for most dies.

Rytlock tells Rox to stop messing around with these idiots, and get back to the Black Citadel for yet another assignment that might convince him that she’s good enough to add to the Stone warband. She snaps at him and tells him he can stuff his assignment up his tailhole, she’s found her warband. She grabs Brahm, slaps some sense and anger back into Marjory, and dives into action. Calling on the players for help, Rox leads an attack on Scarlet before her latest plan can go into action (that’s right, the heroes take the lead finally). While Rox and her group smash down on Scarlet’s forces like the fist of an angry god (bonus if they steal an Aetherblade airship to do this with), you use the diversion to get in and confront Scarlet.

Caught off guard by us taking the initiative and the suddenness of Rox’s assault, Scarlet’s finally caught without a good escape route, and we finally catch her. We get the antidote, and Brahm snaps Scarlet’s neck, ending her threat once and for all.

Kasmeer starts to slowly recover, and everyone decides that they’re going to work together for now on, with Rox as the team leader.

Seconded.

Mainly because Scarlet’s twig neck gets snapped.

I’m sure we can find uses for her pine cone pigtails too.

I heard someone said something about the new Destinys Edge in need of a male Sylvari.

LittleLepton.8915:

Just curious, why is Faren not on this list?

Also, is it possible that if Kasmeer dies, there will be Faren, Marjory, Braham, Rox, New Asura, and, I guess , a Sylvari? I’d laugh if the sylvari is Trahearne, but I bet it will either be a reformed Scarlet or a brand new one.

Pretty much, It seems fairly obvious to me by the end of the S1 LS Scarlet will become Ceara again. Ceara became Scarlet due to an experiment went wrong and she went insane becoming Scarlet (why hello there Joker backstory). Given the back story invested into the character it really seems unlikely they’ll kill her off, someone at Anet is far too attached to her for that to happen, so not being able to kill her off it’s more probable she’s really been an anti-hero the whole time and the motivation behind her plan will be to stop the big bad coming (that she saw in the Eternal Alchemy experiment that mad her go insane), she’ll some how regain her sanity, be part of destiny’s edge 2.0 due to her knowledge of what’s to come but be the untrusted outsider (since conflict will be needed to be “interesting”….think of her as the new Eir, were everyone is narky at her because “SHE DUN KILLED SNAFF!”) which will all lead into LS S2.

Gabby.3205:

I couldn’t agree more. I find it funny how the one update that I really disliked actually featured my favourite character.
Don’t forget how stupid the final fight was.

I agree that they must have something planned for Canach. Otherwise, they could have just killed him. It doesn’t really make sense for Kiel not to kill him, if you think about what happened. I mean, the guy is dangerous and escaped prison before, it would be wise to kill him instead of arresting him again. Since he was not killed, I believe that we will see him again.

One rule to writing, is everything happens for a reason, must impact the story in some way, or it will be edited out. To introduce a character and never use it again is preposterous. Thus assuming Anet comprehends that much, we will see Cannach again.

Romo.3709:

Levetty.1279:

Kasmeer dies and I quit the game.

Mentors dying was more than enough. Leave Kasmeer alone. Kill off Trehearne or Logan. In other words characters we have no sympathy for. Hell, I had to look up spelling on the salad dude’s name because is so badly spelled out. But do not kill Kasmeer.

Logan or Trahearne in comparison to Kasmeer? I don’t even understand how you can say that. Aside from being key members of plot and character development, Logan and Trahearne actually possess personalities, and not just good looks, they actually fight and hold viable roles, whereas Kasmeer serves as no more than a poster girl. In the whole of LS the only noteworthy thing she’s done is join you in the tower and fight briefly, aside from that, she appeared in both southsun and dragon bash, but was as good as useless on both accounts.

Illi.3647:

They said however that they have plans for him in the livestream…But I don´t think he´ll make a good match for this kind of group. More of him will come, yes, but I hope not in this way.

Why not? An antihero would serve as a good juxtapose to the otherwise noble crowd. It also deepens plot and character development, if say, they don’t actually trust or get along with him, at least initially.

But if they kill of Kasmeer, so that it´ll be as parallel to Snaff…that´ll be just stupid. If there are too many paralels, it´l not be believable at all.

You’re missing the point, the parallelism in itself is an art, not to be confused with copying, recycling, or being unoriginal by any means; to take a source and present it in another way, adds a layer of depth. Well, if done correctly at any rate.

Take Tybalt for example. His death was so pointless.

It wasnt pointless at all, the mentors died to serve as a turning point and to propel plot and character development. Both feature your first big loss: plot wise it’s the loss of an important fort and the first real indication that Zhiatan is an imminent threat, no longer can you sit on the sidelines; and character wise, its the loss of a friend, or more specifically, the loss of a mentor. You have to think of the mental strant this would put on you, both the depression, and the realization that you no longer have someone to follow; now you have to lead. Its the passing of the torch so to speak. Though I admit they didn’t dig deep enough into it, the anguish of having to slay your risen mentor would have been a nice touch.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

Romo.3709:

Levetty.1279:

Kasmeer dies and I quit the game.

Mentors dying was more than enough. Leave Kasmeer alone. Kill off Trehearne or Logan. In other words characters we have no sympathy for. Hell, I had to look up spelling on the salad dude’s name because is so badly spelled out. But do not kill Kasmeer.

Logan or Trahearne in comparison to Kasmeer? I don’t even understand how you can say that. Aside from being key members of plot and character development, Logan and Trahearne actually possess personalities, and not just good looks, they actually fight and hold viable roles, whereas Kasmeer serves as no more than a poster girl. In the whole of LS the only noteworthy thing she’s done is join you in the tower and fight briefly, aside from that, she appeared in both southsun and dragon bash, but was as good as useless on both accounts.

I sincerely hope Anet won´t torture us anymore with Trahearne. He already was a pain in the PS and i can very happily imagine a LS without him.
And if you do look closely, Trahearne developed his character during the LS as well. Logan had his character developed in the books, so they already had it when the game started. According to this we could still see Kasmeer developing her character as well. It would be definitely better than seeing Trahearne or Scarlet filling that spot -.-

Wait….Rox is Female?

Palador.2170:

My hopes for this:

Kasmeer becomes very sick due to the thorn that stuck her. Marjory can’t cure her, so they get a hold of Canach (by force, if need be) and ask for his help. As he and the new asura work for a cure, Kasmeer slips further away, and Marjory becomes pretty much useless as all she can do is watch the person she cares for most dies.

Rytlock tells Rox to stop messing around with these idiots, and get back to the Black Citadel for yet another assignment that might convince him that she’s good enough to add to the Stone warband. She snaps at him and tells him he can stuff his assignment up his tailhole, she’s found her warband. She grabs Brahm, slaps some sense and anger back into Marjory, and dives into action. Calling on the players for help, Rox leads an attack on Scarlet before her latest plan can go into action (that’s right, the heroes take the lead finally). While Rox and her group smash down on Scarlet’s forces like the fist of an angry god (bonus if they steal an Aetherblade airship to do this with), you use the diversion to get in and confront Scarlet.

Caught off guard by us taking the initiative and the suddenness of Rox’s assault, Scarlet’s finally caught without a good escape route, and we finally catch her. We get the antidote, and Brahm snaps Scarlet’s neck, ending her threat once and for all.

Kasmeer starts to slowly recover, and everyone decides that they’re going to work together for now on, with Rox as the team leader.

One thing that bothers me about this is it demonstrates how secondary the player character has become in the Living Story. We’re playing their story all the time.

BTW they don’t need to steal an Aetherblade ship, Kiel acquired one through the player’s hard work and Magnus’ nepotism.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

Illi.3647:

They said however that they have plans for him in the livestream…But I don´t think he´ll make a good match for this kind of group. More of him will come, yes, but I hope not in this way.

Why not? An antihero would serve as a good juxtapose to the otherwise noble crowd. It also deepens plot and character development, if say, they don’t actually trust or get along with him, at least initially.

Just my feeling. He is not a character fit to be part of a group of heroes. If he somewhat cooperates, it´s ok, but more like an external help.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

But if they kill of Kasmeer, so that it´ll be as parallel to Snaff…that´ll be just stupid. If there are too many paralels, it´l not be believable at all.

You’re missing the point, the parallelism in itself is an art, not to be confused with copying, recycling, or being unoriginal by any means; to take a source and present it in another way, adds a layer of depth. Well, if done correctly at any rate.

Now that you used word copying, I see it more like it, than paralel. Paralel should also have a point. What point would DE 2.0 have? So we have two almost identical groups of heroes for every story delivering medium?

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

Take Tybalt for example. His death was so pointless.

It wasnt pointless at all, the mentors died to serve as a turning point and to propel plot and character development. Both feature your first big loss: plot wise it’s the loss of an important fort and the first real indication that Zhiatan is an imminent threat, no longer can you sit on the sidelines; and character wise, its the loss of a friend, or more specifically, the loss of a mentor. You have to think of the mental strant this would put on you, both the depression, and the realization that you no longer have someone to follow; now you have to lead. Its the passing of the torch so to speak. Though I admit they didn’t dig deep enough into it, the anguish of having to slay your risen mentor would have been a nice touch.

Well, yeah, I get that. And It struck me when my mentor died (except of Forgal…for one, I didn´t like him, second, what greater death for a norn there is?). But I didn´t bought it with Tybald or Sieran. There was no point of THEM to die. Tybald, for example, was high-ranked agent of the Order. How many secrets went to Zhaitan with him? And Sieran…I had the feeling that she is just dieing because all the mentors had to die. Besides…they only closed the door. They had a freaking dragon lieutenant there and army of Risen that could just climb the walls and jump. And even if not, the ship we were escaping at could be destroyed so easily by dragon. And for how long could one man (or woman) stop a tide of Risen? Not for long enough, that´s for sure. I mean, the sacrifice should not save us. It´d buy us a minute or two at most, but we should´ve died at the end. But that´s another story.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

Now that you used word copying, I see it more like it, than parallel. Parallel should also have a point. What point would DE 2.0 have? So we have two almost identical groups of heroes for every story delivering medium?

The point should be simple, the reason they need a second group of heroes is so that they ’don’t cross the streams’ between LS and PS. And their choice to use parallelism towards that ends is simply to add an artistic twist. Well, whether they succeeded remains to be seen, but parallelism in itself is a powerful story mechanic, for aesthetics if nothing else, so don’t discredit it as a viable option. After all, every business that should hope to sell, realizes that employing aesthetics is an absolute must.

Well, yeah, I get that. And It struck me when my mentor died (except of Forgal…for one, I didn´t like him, second, what greater death for a norn there is?). But I didn´t bought it with Tybald or Sieran. There was no point of THEM to die. Tybald, for example, was high-ranked agent of the Order. How many secrets went to Zhaitan with him? And Sieran…I had the feeling that she is just dieing because all the mentors had to die.

That’s a contradiction; you understand how Forgal’s death would impact the story, but not Tybald or Sieran’s? Any one of the three would leave the player in the same situation I described. If anything Tybald more so BECAUSE of the secrets he carries. Don’t tell you think Zhiatan learning the Order of Whispers secrets doesn’t impact the plot. As for Sieran… well, she was the weakest character of the trio, annoying at best. So I’d have to say her death was quite satisfactory. But yes, she did have to die just like the rest, otherwise the plot wouldn’t fallow the same path. In this turning point from piece to war, from follower to leader, you would have missed the train.

Besides…they only closed the door. They had a freaking dragon lieutenant there and army of Risen that could just climb the walls and jump. And even if not, the ship we were escaping at could be destroyed so easily by dragon. And for how long could one man (or woman) stop a tide of Risen? Not for long enough, that´s for sure. I mean, the sacrifice should not save us. It´d buy us a minute or two at most, but we should´ve died at the end. But that´s another story.

Really? On numerous accounts, we fended out hordes of risen alone (or virtually so) in events, on word maps, in instances and dungeons. And as for holding off a dragon, I used to solo Tequatl before they revamped him. Sure, Id still die, but I could last a good five minutes or so. So with that being said, why couldn’t they hold them off long enough for us to get to the ship? Do you suppose we are supper heroes with powers far superior to the rest of our race? That no one else can accomplish what we can? While certainly the elite, the hero, perhaps even the most skilled of warriors; our characters are still mortals, and thus would have peers rivals and betters. And to that point, at the time of our mentors’ deaths, they were as skilled, if not more so, than our characters.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

The point should be simple, the reason they need a second group of heroes is so that they ’don’t cross the streams’ between LS and PS. And their choice to use parallelism towards that ends is simply to add an artistic twist. Well, whether they succeeded remains to be seen, but parallelism in itself is a powerful story mechanic, for aesthetics if nothing else, so don’t discredit it as a viable option. After all, every business that should hope to sell, realizes that employing aesthetics is an absolute must.

I just see it more as a copy, than parallel. There is no need to have exact same group with one of each race etc. If they just form some group, I´m OK with it. But being it a copy of DE makes no sense to me. But that´s my opinion, some people could see in intriguing.

That’s a contradiction; you understand how Forgal’s death would impact the story, but not Tybald or Sieran’s? Any one of the three would leave the player in the same situation I described. If anything Tybald more so BECAUSE of the secrets he carries. Don’t tell you think Zhiatan learning the Order of Whispers secrets doesn’t impact the plot. As for Sieran… well, she was the weakest character of the trio, annoying at best. So I’d have to say her death was quite satisfactory. But yes, she did have to die just like the rest, otherwise the plot wouldn’t fallow the same path. In this turning point from piece to war, from follower to leader, you would have missed the train.

Eh, you misunderstood me there I was talking about death itself, not about it´s impact. Forgal is a norn, so he was probably happy he could die a heroic death and be remembered as the one who saved Lionguard and future Pact commander on Claw Island. Tybald dieing didn´t make sense exactly because of the knowledge he had. He had to know how the corruption worked, that he is bringing that knowledge to the enemy. But I somewhat understand why he wanted to do something heroic personaly. Sirean, as you said, died because the other mentors died too. That´s the whole point. They could pull it off by each mentor dieing in some different matter, but yeah…I understand why the mentors had to die story-wise.

Really? On numerous accounts, we fended out hordes of risen alone (or virtually so) in events, on word maps, in instances and dungeons. And as for holding off a dragon, I used to solo Tequatl before they revamped him. Sure, Id still die, but I could last a good five minutes or so. So with that being said, why couldn’t they hold them off long enough for us to get to the ship? Do you suppose we are supper heroes with powers far superior to the rest of our race? That no one else can accomplish what we can? While certainly the elite, the hero, perhaps even the most skilled of warriors; our characters are still mortals, and thus would have peers rivals and betters. And to that point, at the time of our mentors’ deaths, they were as skilled, if not more so, than our characters.

Ok, I see your point. I was maybe a little too cynical there. But still, when the ship sailed off, only thing I thought of was “OK, and now dragon attacks and sinks us”. Because, if I remember correctly, the dragon was still in the fortress and there was nothing holding him back.
But I think we went a little off-topic

LittleLepton.8915:

Palador.2170:

My hopes for this:

Kasmeer becomes very sick due to the thorn that stuck her. Marjory can’t cure her, so they get a hold of Canach (by force, if need be) and ask for his help. As he and the new asura work for a cure, Kasmeer slips further away, and Marjory becomes pretty much useless as all she can do is watch the person she cares for most dies.

Rytlock tells Rox to stop messing around with these idiots, and get back to the Black Citadel for yet another assignment that might convince him that she’s good enough to add to the Stone warband. She snaps at him and tells him he can stuff his assignment up his tailhole, she’s found her warband. She grabs Brahm, slaps some sense and anger back into Marjory, and dives into action. Calling on the players for help, Rox leads an attack on Scarlet before her latest plan can go into action (that’s right, the heroes take the lead finally). While Rox and her group smash down on Scarlet’s forces like the fist of an angry god (bonus if they steal an Aetherblade airship to do this with), you use the diversion to get in and confront Scarlet.

Caught off guard by us taking the initiative and the suddenness of Rox’s assault, Scarlet’s finally caught without a good escape route, and we finally catch her. We get the antidote, and Brahm snaps Scarlet’s neck, ending her threat once and for all.

Kasmeer starts to slowly recover, and everyone decides that they’re going to work together for now on, with Rox as the team leader.

Seconded.

Mainly because Scarlet’s twig neck gets snapped.

I’m sure we can find uses for her pine cone pigtails too.

Someone hire this guy in Anet to write them some LS lore.

and if none of this happens, we will have confirmation that the community can be better story writers and theorists than whoever they currently have on staff to do so…

So it better kitten well happen, anything else would just cause me great disappointment, you hear me Anet!?!! Do not let us tell a story better than yours!! Be better yourselves!

Shiren.9532:

One thing that bothers me about this is it demonstrates how secondary the player character has become in the Living Story. We’re playing their story all the time.

BTW they don’t need to steal an Aetherblade ship, Kiel acquired one through the player’s hard work and Magnus’ nepotism.

Yeah.

I did want to give the player character more of the spotlight in my idea, but there are certain things that need to happen to establish the team and everyone’s role in it. (That’s why it’s Brahm that I would have snap Scarlet’s neck, for example.)

Once this team is established and Scarlet is dealt with (however it happens), they really do need to focus on the player character being center stage for the LS.

And the team can “borrow” Kiel’s after they crash the first one they steal into Scarlet’s main forces while packed with all the explosives and energy crystals they could get.

LittleLepton.8915:

Just curious, why is Faren not on this list?
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Because nobody buys his mini.

Mochann.5298:

LittleLepton.8915:

Just curious, why is Faren not on this list?
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Because nobody buys his mini.

Lies, I saw him in a dungeon run recently it was majestic.

I’m glad my theory is catching on! (Been saying this on Reddit/forums since Southsun, although at that point I though it would have been Kasmeer and Faren)

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/8145/Guild-Wars-2-Changing-What-It-Means-to-Create-Play-an-MMO.html

Found this interesting. The new Asura is a female golemancer obsessed with Scarlet.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

The new Asura is a female golemancer obsessed with Scarlet.

Well, I guess the writer who created Scarlet was so upset that no one liked the character they decided to write a fictional fan for the twig instead.

Seriously though we do not need another Zojja.

Aedelric.1287:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

The new Asura is a female golemancer obsessed with Scarlet.

Well, I guess the writer who created Scarlet was so upset that no one liked the character they decided to write a fictional fan for the twig instead.

Seriously though we do not need another Zojja.

I’m hoping that her obsession with the tree lady implies that she is somewhat unstable, and not as goodie goodie as Zojja. I’ll. never forgive Zojjas comments about my infinity ball. What a wuss!

I still think Kasmeer is the real villain here, she’s totally an act, she’s the real scarlet!

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Aedelric.1287:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

The new Asura is a female golemancer obsessed with Scarlet.

Well, I guess the writer who created Scarlet was so upset that no one liked the character they decided to write a fictional fan for the twig instead.

Seriously though we do not need another Zojja.

I’m hoping that her obsession with the tree lady implies that she is somewhat unstable, and not as goodie goodie as Zojja. I’ll. never forgive Zojjas comments about my infinity ball. What a wuss!

I’m hoping the obsession implies that she wants to force Scarlet’s knowledge into a golem that can tell them everything at a single command. Meaning killing her, and trapping her mind into some kind of orb for which to power her golem with. At which point said golem will tell them specific knowledge if they ask for it, and every now and then devolve into insane cackling.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Aedelric.1287:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

The new Asura is a female golemancer obsessed with Scarlet.

Well, I guess the writer who created Scarlet was so upset that no one liked the character they decided to write a fictional fan for the twig instead.

Seriously though we do not need another Zojja.

I’m hoping that her obsession with the tree lady implies that she is somewhat unstable, and not as goodie goodie as Zojja. I’ll. never forgive Zojjas comments about my infinity ball. What a wuss!

I’m hoping the obsession implies that she wants to force Scarlet’s knowledge into a golem that can tell them everything at a single command. Meaning killing her, and trapping her mind into some kind of orb for which to power her golem with. At which point said golem will tell them specific knowledge if they ask for it, and every now and then devolve into insane cackling.

This thought amuses me greatly. Thanks!

RyuDragnier.9476:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Aedelric.1287:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

The new Asura is a female golemancer obsessed with Scarlet.

Well, I guess the writer who created Scarlet was so upset that no one liked the character they decided to write a fictional fan for the twig instead.

Seriously though we do not need another Zojja.

I’m hoping that her obsession with the tree lady implies that she is somewhat unstable, and not as goodie goodie as Zojja. I’ll. never forgive Zojjas comments about my infinity ball. What a wuss!

I’m hoping the obsession implies that she wants to force Scarlet’s knowledge into a golem that can tell them everything at a single command. Meaning killing her, and trapping her mind into some kind of orb for which to power her golem with. At which point said golem will tell them specific knowledge if they ask for it, and every now and then devolve into insane cackling.

I’ll be upset if this doesn’t happen now…

PS: I can’t agree more about the infinity ball, she only didn’t want me to pursue it because she was too lame to think of such an amazing idea!

Durzlla.6295:

PS: I can’t agree more about the infinity ball, she only didn’t want me to pursue it because she was too lame to think of such an amazing idea!

Exactly. Zojjas a scrub. Lol