I’ve seen more people getting annoyed at negative players being negative than losing, The design of Scarlets chests I think works very well to combat this. You get rewarded for your personal participation then on top of that you get more depending on how well everyone does. You’re encouraged to care about both and I think it is working for the majority.
Not like its actively creating more and more toxic players or anything…
This exact comment is the proof of it’s statement. Well not entirely, “Raids” don’t create it just manifest and from all sides, from the people blaming “bad” players to the people attacking players interested by this kind of content (looking at you OP).
And it wouldn’t if they made them instanced you mean?
If it were instanced, people like me (Sylvari under the employment of Scarlet Briar ; ) would ignore the event rather than sabotaging it. I’ve spent the past 5 days destroying golems and using up repair hammers so that the group would fail the event. I have been successful in every single attempt to foil the raid.
But it’s not instanced. So I can go there and do whatever I please to the detriment of all those who may be participating. If it were instanced, the party leaders would have far greater control over who is allowed into the event. Their chances at success would be greatly improved.
Never had a greater feeling of community than when we downed the Wurm.
The support, time, effort, words of encouragement and general good vibes and feelings for 150+ people trying to achieve something no one else has done was euphoric.
Not everyone could sit there for hours on end, it gave new players a chance to stand next to “veterans” of the encounter on multiple occasions, something that is much harder to do in an instances.
Never had a greater feeling of community than when we downed the Wurm.
The support, time, effort, words of encouragement and general good vibes and feelings for 150+ people trying to achieve something no one else has done was euphoric.
Not everyone could sit there for hours on end, it gave new players a chance to stand next to “veterans” of the encounter on multiple occasions, something that is much harder to do in an instances.
Yes, and now this “awesome” guys that killed Wurms earlier did the run only to get the keg bombs runs achievement, because screw those who weren’t there at the first kill.
Yeah, I agree with the concept of instanced raids, not things like this.
Never had a greater feeling of community than when we downed the Wurm.
The support, time, effort, words of encouragement and general good vibes and feelings for 150+ people trying to achieve something no one else has done was euphoric.
Not everyone could sit there for hours on end, it gave new players a chance to stand next to “veterans” of the encounter on multiple occasions, something that is much harder to do in an instances.
Yes, and now this “awesome” guys that killed Wurms earlier did the run only to get the keg bombs runs achievement, because screw those who weren’t there at the first kill.
Yeah, I agree with the concept of instanced raids, not things like this.
they did that because everyone is kittening tired after playing the game for nearly 12 hours and without much sleep.
And it wouldn’t if they made them instanced you mean?
If it were instanced, people like me (Sylvari under the employment of Scarlet Briar ; ) would ignore the event rather than sabotaging it. I’ve spent the past 5 days destroying golems and using up repair hammers so that the group would fail the event. I have been successful in every single attempt to foil the raid.
But it’s not instanced. So I can go there and do whatever I please to the detriment of all those who may be participating. If it were instanced, the party leaders would have far greater control over who is allowed into the event. Their chances at success would be greatly improved.
So you’re admitting to griefing, and are quite proud of it.
On the official forum.
Where it shows your account identity.
If it were instanced, people like me (Sylvari under the employment of Scarlet Briar ; ) would ignore the event rather than sabotaging it. I’ve spent the past 5 days destroying golems and using up repair hammers so that the group would fail the event. I have been successful in every single attempt to foil the raid.
But it’s not instanced. So I can go there and do whatever I please to the detriment of all those who may be participating. If it were instanced, the party leaders would have far greater control over who is allowed into the event. Their chances at success would be greatly improved.
Chris Roberts bro is a greifer. Alert the gaming press!
And it wouldn’t if they made them instanced you mean?
If it were instanced, people like me (Sylvari under the employment of Scarlet Briar ; ) would ignore the event rather than sabotaging it. I’ve spent the past 5 days destroying golems and using up repair hammers so that the group would fail the event. I have been successful in every single attempt to foil the raid.
But it’s not instanced. So I can go there and do whatever I please to the detriment of all those who may be participating. If it were instanced, the party leaders would have far greater control over who is allowed into the event. Their chances at success would be greatly improved.
So you’re admitting to griefing, and are quite proud of it.
On the official forum.
Where it shows your account identity.
Um … devs? This is a slam dunk ban, is it not?
Don’t worry. My account has already been actioned. Hence why I’m here and not in-game.
And I don’t call it ‘griefing’. I call it ‘role-playing’. I can’t, in all good conscience, look like this and be a ‘nice guy’….
And it wouldn’t if they made them instanced you mean?
If it were instanced, people like me (Sylvari under the employment of Scarlet Briar ; ) would ignore the event rather than sabotaging it. I’ve spent the past 5 days destroying golems and using up repair hammers so that the group would fail the event. I have been successful in every single attempt to foil the raid.
But it’s not instanced. So I can go there and do whatever I please to the detriment of all those who may be participating. If it were instanced, the party leaders would have far greater control over who is allowed into the event. Their chances at success would be greatly improved.
So you’re admitting to griefing, and are quite proud of it.
On the official forum.
Where it shows your account identity.
Um … devs? This is a slam dunk ban, is it not?
Don’t worry. My account has already been actioned. Hence why I’m here and not in-game.
And I don’t call it ‘griefing’. I call it ‘role-playing’. I can’t, in all good conscience, look like this and be a ‘nice guy’….
And it wouldn’t if they made them instanced you mean?
If it were instanced, people like me (Sylvari under the employment of Scarlet Briar ; ) would ignore the event rather than sabotaging it. I’ve spent the past 5 days destroying golems and using up repair hammers so that the group would fail the event. I have been successful in every single attempt to foil the raid.
But it’s not instanced. So I can go there and do whatever I please to the detriment of all those who may be participating. If it were instanced, the party leaders would have far greater control over who is allowed into the event. Their chances at success would be greatly improved.
This event was never meant for people like you…It is made for the hard core of the GW2 player base and those who want to make a long term commitment.
Elbegast @, You are right that with the raids comes full control over the group and this means that slackers like you won’t be taken in the group.You either pull your weight or you don’t.If you don’t you will be kicked and replaced with someone better.
In one other MMO which people don’t like to hear about on these forums there are 4 difficulties of the raids:
1.Looking for Raid – especially made for casuals
2.Flex – scaling difficulty made for pug groups
3.Normal – for organized groups
4.Heroic – for the hard core of the population
In GW2 we havge only 2 difficulties – the pug/casual one.Other than that the hard core player base is in the speed clear groups
If it were made for hardcore players, it wouldn’t make us rely on people with pets and staff camp guardians to die on platforms and fail the whole chain. I think they just miscalculated the caliber of players.
Many players really do not know how to dodge or deal reasonable damage. Not asking for all zerk, full synergy team or anything. But really you do see a lot of people going down too often and not understanding the most basic mechanics of the game.
Never had a greater feeling of community than when we downed the Wurm.
The support, time, effort, words of encouragement and general good vibes and feelings for 150+ people trying to achieve something no one else has done was euphoric.
Not everyone could sit there for hours on end, it gave new players a chance to stand next to “veterans” of the encounter on multiple occasions, something that is much harder to do in an instances.
Was that your first time raiding or something? Why exactly do you think raids are popular to begin with?
It’s really not harder at all in instanced raiding. In fact, without such a lengthy respawn timer it gives people more of a chance to teach other people the fights. People ge tthis misconception that all raiding guilds are elitist jerks… like they all are led by pro streamers who nerd rage if you forgot your flask… it really isn’t like that tho for the majority of guilds.
Anyway I’m glad you defeated the worm..that’s cool. I don’t see how it’s any different than an instanced raid. See, by manipulating overflows so you could all be together what you did was effectively ‘instance’ that fight anyway. There’d be literally no difference if you all walked through a raid instance. Well I guess the one difference would be you wouldn’t be able to just die and keep respawning and running back without resetting the fight.
Open world, at least in my opinion, means that this big kitten encounter/boss spawns and all the people in that area doing things see it happen and come together to kill it..on the spot. Waiting around for a spawn..gathering on TS or mumble or vent…none of that. Thats what people do in instanced raids. Open world should be spur of the moment epic encounters…which this game obviously just can’t possibly do because that just isn’t the nature of mmo-gamers. Instead of having people already out there doing something so that they’d be around if the boss spawned, they need to use the boss as the reason you even go out there.
The size of the raid? I suppose thats different. It sure does present a lot of pretty particle effects.
