Guild Wars 2

SFR is paying the bill for its poor attitude toward PUs and its lack of sportmanship/insulting attitude on the forums. Raging and finding excuses won’t solve anything. I’d like SFR to go on pretending that we are double teaming them because as long as they think this way they won’t win.

If you lose try to find shortcomings in yourself SFR, don’t point fingers and scream because it makes you look pathetic.

It’s telling a lot that 70% of all SFR attacks are towards Piken and only 30% towards Vizunah. That’s by the way more than Piken attacks towards SFR. So it’s obviously that SFR is avoiding Vizunah and attacking the weaker enemy most of the time.

Tactically very foolish.

UnknownRH.4592:

Look at the scores, and tell me what you would do if you were a commander in piken or Vizunah?

It has nothing to do with scores cuz it was like that since the day one.
Wanna double team? Well if you’d asked me, I wouldn’t mind. It just makes it more interesting for me, i’m not pvdoor player. And i got 3k kills per evening. Better than ive ever done. Lots of upscaled meat. Even in bls. But its a real challenge when its 1x vs 2x or 1x vs 3x situation.
So I dont really care if its double teaming or not. But if so… Does it make it interesting for Viz? Would it be true victory feeling when you win like this? Questions. Tonight in our TS someone offered to send a spy to viz TS. But Klm said a right thing: we dont wanna win like this. Even if we had no chance to win then.
Is it really victory or death for you? Seems like times when we pm to Troma about hackers took keep and he gave it back to us are gone (over the top example but u got the message). I miss them.
If we end the 3rd I would congratulate Viz: they win the league’s gold. But it definitely would leave bad taste in our mouths if there’s something dirty behind the scenes.
No offence, just saying.

PS: It’s really.. ummmm… stupid to hate a server cuz of forum warriors. Most of them dont play WvW and just «lfg fotm 10» in LA every day. just saying.

GSTim.8094:

PS: It’s really.. ummmm… stupid to hate a server cuz of forum warriors. Most of them dont play WvW and just «lfg fotm 10» in LA every day. just saying.

+1

GSTim.8094:

UnknownRH.4592:

Look at the scores, and tell me what you would do if you were a commander in piken or Vizunah?

It has nothing to do with scores cuz it was like that since the day one.
Wanna double team? Well if you’d asked me, I wouldn’t mind. It just makes it more interesting for me, i’m not pvdoor player. And i got 3k kills per evening. Better than ive ever done. Lots of upscaled meat. Even in bls. But its a real challenge when its 1x vs 2x or 1x vs 3x situation.
So I dont really care if its double teaming or not. But if so… Does it make it interesting for Viz? Would it be true victory feeling when you win like this? Questions.

First, you should do your own homework before you’re complaining about doubleteaming . Only 30% of your captures against the first placed server isn’t enaugh to win a matchup.

cazza.6078:

First, you should do your own homework before you’re complaining about doubleteaming . Only 30% of your captures against the first placed server isn’t enaugh to win a matchup.

Could you please translate your words into human language? I can’t see any connection with my message.

What you said is, blabla – we’re only losing because we’re getting double teamed but you can live with that because of undeserved blabla.

What I said is, listen, you’re losing because you don’t even attack Vizunah. Attacking the weakest server Piken for most of the time (70%) is just not enough.

http://gw2wvw.org/?region=2&tier=1

GSTim.8094:

It has nothing to do with scores cuz it was like that since the day one.

No it was not, SFr had more points than Piken in the start but not considerably high. We saw the opportunity and we took it. Does not mean we are not fighting VS. Look at Piken BL hills you think we have given it to Vizunah as a gift? We are unable to take it after gazillion attempts coz they have scouts always. as of this moment most of the towers or keeps that are upgraded to t3 are untouched by any server. When vizunah has the opportunity they take our garrison each day and reset it (this has happened everyday. the only problem there is that SFR is not there to try to claim it later which makes it easier for us to defend against Vizunah only and upgrade it to full. So as of now it seems SFR and VS both want us to be second in this MU.

I know many of your hardcore guilds are in que and all but right now we dont see any challenge from SFR and we are working on beating you on the scores to become second in this matchup. Even we have 30 people capping on ruins on BL’s that dont contribute except that we have the bloodlust coz of them.

GSTim.8094:

So I dont really care if its double teaming or not. But if so… Does it make it interesting for Viz? Would it be true victory feeling when you win like this? Questions. Tonight in our TS someone offered to send a spy to viz TS. But Klm said a right thing: we dont wanna win like this. Even if we had no chance to win then.

Yeah it is not double teaming. We are just not able to fight Vizunah and you just cant even fight us. Vizunah focusing both and we defending ourselves and focusing SFR. Also it is a shame that someone in you TS even offered a spy you see we dont even think of stuff like that.

Though I respect that SFR decided not to go for it as I know that SFR can easily spy on us some of our population did move to you and they are friends and have earned our respect who we believe will never be part of such activities.

GSTim.8094:

If we end the 3rd I would congratulate Viz: they win the league’s gold. But it definitely would leave bad taste in our mouths if there’s something dirty behind the scenes.
No offence, just saying.

PS: It’s really.. ummmm… stupid to hate a server cuz of forum warriors. Most of them dont play WvW and just «lfg fotm 10» in LA every day. just saying.

Well lets just put it this way 1. you will never know if they have cheated or not so you will not have any bad taste in your mouth except that if you only want to believe they cheated. 2. Yes most of the population over here hates SFR due to their forum warriors but this is the forums where we are and they will get what they deserve over here from the other servers. Dirt and mud, when SFR wins your forum trolls come all with glory in here treating other servers like crap and when you loose raise points of doubt to other servers credibility of winning.

Cazza, did you read my message? I don’t think so.
I didnt give you any single reason why we are losing. Pay more attention to other’s posts and stop talking bs pls.
We’re losing cuz we have our own internal reasons which dont depend on your game actions. And we’re not attacking piken only. Actually we dont have time to attack cuz we have to handle viz push.

PS: Most of those 70% that u showed are just our attempts to take back our home bl spawn towers. Cuz u always attack them when we fight viz in garri

Hello guys

i can swear there is no alliance with piken, i do not even know someone on this server. The only thing i know, it’s they are respectful with us and they do not hesitate to attack us. Defended etheron myself with arrow cart for 1 hour yesterday vs a Piken army for example. And i did roam all nights versus piken/sfr groups in ruins many hours since the reset. I have many informations and battle reports of all this, no alliance. At all.

Concerning Vizunah, http://www.appelauxarmes.fr was checked 8000 times by 6200 people. 400 people on TS for the reset, zerk mode commanders, and many other things that i missed from old VS. We decided to enter in a total rage mode versus our classic nemesis, SFR. Wemil, Hebril and others bad words/taunts to us made me really strong will for battle.

A week before the league i stomped my fist on my table after reading classic hate and decided to build the mini-site.

I agree with Unknow and all he says. A wise guy.

See you in the battlefield !

So what’s this bad taste in your mouths you’re talking about?

There’s no Wemil on SFR now, Troma. Sorry =)

Alliance/doubleteaming or whatever doesnt matter we messed up now stop complaining and PUSH

Troma sorry pound yourself as much as you want but only thing that is better on vz is your p/t/v train with guardians warrios and that you die a little slower. On reset I played all night too and holded you on 2 maps. The ticks were even. But I am not on sfr now. I followed my guild.
As people stated above the sfr problem is the pugs that go there and they lost some of their morning and some of their best comanders…..
If it was any different match up probably Vz Rs Sfr it could have been different because riverside have the numbers to push on Vz. But piken is just happy to leech for second place.
The start of the league is perfect storm lag pugs,and french holiday for 2 weeks? really?
If you have to be honest Troma if league had started as it was stated 2 weeks ago it would have been different story. But yeah getting your t3 keeps with kittening tones of siege inside is almost impossible with the new treb mastery and 100 man pressing 1 making lag….

Have your fun I am on other server now killing everything we play soon will have fun with you killing you too. Just one difference I enjoy the game and people actualy appriciate what I do instead of whine and demand and cry on ts. What a nice change.

End yes I hate this playstyle 1 big blob run from even fights hide under siege attack if it is only 5vs1 in your case. But it is anet fault promoting it.I just hope the few decent people on Sfr that have left dont burn theirselves up. As far as Sfr has its russian crew their fine and pvers will leave eventualy. They are everywhere right now on each server so it is problem as a whole for the wvw.

And yes I hate this 1 big blob run from fights under siege from Vz but it is Anet fault promoting it and making it even stronger with the last updates. I just hope last decent sfr players dont burn theirselves with all the things going on. the game is still fun while you play it for fun.And sfr will be fine as long as they have their russian crew solid and playing. But the pve pugs on maps is the worst problem for each server right now.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

I will tell you this SFR want to win the league and it is not a secret even.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

And then cry other blob? really? Honestly this game is become so boring lately, just want to have the league now win and leave the game

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

will farm all night and day for the start of the league to give you sense what is it to be in the big leagues
so keep the cry coming

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

Only to win the first league season is left for us before we go to other games like Wildstar ect.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

So Wl back you get Js morning guilds and still oh no VZ cant win ect…
Come on bring your zone blobs we are bored we only raiding 2 days a week because no challenge and we win so much…

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

And 1 more thing most of our guilds are even slacking we are keeping it for the league.. .. The you will see power mate honestly….If we can beat you without putting everything on the table imagine when we go serious.

This sounds so funny now.

Take that SFR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you been sitting pretty up there for toooo long, its time to have a bite of ye old knuckle sandwich. OHHHHH YESSSSSSS let the QQ carry on wooohoooooo

I WIN

Hahaha go on VS beat 10 shades of shet out of them! Always routing for you guys! Troma for President! hahah

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

And yes I hate this 1 big blob run from fights under siege from Vz but it is Anet fault promoting it and making it even stronger with the last updates.

Lol ?

As of this moment piken capped VS BL hills and bay. So as per double teaming they gifted it to us.

If you could ever taste double teaming and Anet would allow it for one day. I can bet your ppt will never tick above 100 points. No matter how good any server is there is no way you could win fights and cap points with 100 people against 200 on a given map. That is the reason I say it again and again double teaming rumours are crap.

you would not even have what you do if 2 servers double team against you. In the future matchups when the third server will be a low ranked one you wont see us crying about double teaming. I can trust Piken with that. We are not whiners.

I am hoping tonight wvw will be better with less pve players and more guild raids. Expecting some challenge from SFR since the weekend is gone now.

I hear SFR will get a bright new finisher for this league : The Rosik finisher !

Seriously guys, every server gets double teamed on his BL, it’s like this from day 1, stop whining.

P.S. Your attitude does not help you.

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

Troma sorry pound yourself as much as you want but only thing that is better on vz is your p/t/v train with guardians warrios and that you die a little slower.

Hmmm…what armour do you use that you are so proud of to kill those noob PVT and PPT geared guardians and warriors oh thy lord? Berserker? :p

Atm there is no SFR on SFR :p
Even now on monday morning there is a queue on our homeland and all we can gather is like 20-25ppl.

Thankew darkie for pointing out the real problem with SFR atm like I also said in my first post on this thread. You are not what you were before the leagues. now deal with it among yourselves and get back on your feet without pointing out which kid knocked you down.

Heyaa
Happy to see, soo many nice fight since the reset

This weekend is the most fun I’ve had in real deal WvW since… December? Only 16 hours of sleep since league start, alas workdays are upon us. I want to thank Vizunah for showing us an enemy worth fighting again, worth CARING enough to fight. Past months were incredibly bland.

A special Hello to the asura hunter and all the other dolly escorts on Vizu border, I had fun trying to keep your Garri empty.

Yours truly, the female human warrior who runs away most of the time. Please don’t chase me so much (especially with the blob).

UnknownRH.4592:

Thankew darkie for pointing out the real problem with SFR atm like I also said in my first post on this thread. You are not what you were before the leagues. now deal with it among yourselves and get back on your feet without pointing out which kid knocked you down.

I dont think we will be able to recover from this one.
We already did that twice, people getting tired of it

Troma.3250:

Hello guys

i can swear there is no alliance with piken, i do not even know someone on this server. The only thing i know, it’s they are respectful with us and they do not hesitate to attack us. Defended etheron myself with arrow cart for 1 hour yesterday vs a Piken army for example. And i did roam all nights versus piken/sfr groups in ruins many hours since the reset. I have many informations and battle reports of all this, no alliance. At all.

Concerning Vizunah, http://www.appelauxarmes.fr was checked 8000 times by 6200 people. 400 people on TS for the reset, zerk mode commanders, and many other things that i missed from old VS. We decided to enter in a total rage mode versus our classic nemesis, SFR. Wemil, Hebril and others bad words/taunts to us made me really strong will for battle.

A week before the league i stomped my fist on my table after reading classic hate and decided to build the mini-site.

I agree with Unknow and all he says. A wise guy.

See you in the battlefield !

Troma we did see you guys in battle for 3 days and we still dont know what to do about it!! lol

wow we flipped hills on piken BL after 3 days. :-D

I wish I cud share the glory with my pikeneers.

Many thx Anet for this, u basically destroyed a server and a game mode. Ppl complaing with other servers and each others… lol u lucky none sees how it’ all your fault.
Winning or loosing is part of the game and i played sfr since the beta so i know it well, i don’t hate vz or pikens, i just hate you anet for this kitten.

Achivments and rewards for wvwv…really? I(an many others wvw player) play for competition, i want to try being the best in a 1vs1 in a gvsg and in servervsserver wtf cares about ap?? (an btw also kitten ap..lol 40k kills worth less then a couple of dollys omg) Only u care and all those patetic pvers now joined the server

And u did this, it’s your fault anet, only coz u wanted more money, ppl trasferred and bought gems and now we have a full pver server with endless queues.
And it’s logical coz everyone said: “oh well sfr it’s first so let’s go there!”. it’s international and we can get all this rewards easely!

I’m happy for those loosers they will end up like 7th or worse, but i’m sad for sfr, a very competitive server destroyed not by enemies but coz the Sh. Thx anet, and peace to vz, pikers and every other players of this game, not their fault at all.

yeah honestly I find homura correct in this regard. AP and achievement points shud have never been a part of this league knowing that people are already facing long ques to play wvw.

I dont even know the obsession of people with AP, I have 7k AP but I dont really run after it they just come to me normally while doing stuff I like to do.

Well this is the first league lets hope it gets improved with time.

I actually had a lovely day yesterday when I commanded. 3 of our towers were paper in EB when I started (all but Aldon’s), by the time I was done, morale was high, all our towers were T3 and things were looking up.

Sadly I crashed in an encounter at Rogue’s so I was unable to command for the rest of the evening. I really want to thank everyone from SFR for sticking with me, especially in blob fights where the trend lately has been to just stay at the back rather than follow the commander.

I just hope people can resolve their differences in a non-hateful way and just… spread the love, we don’t need all this anger. SFR have messed up badly when it comes to the so-called “pugs”, treating them like kitten when we should’ve embraced and taught them. I know some people will argue with me and say that we did, indeed try… but we’ve tried with rage, not with kindness and compassion.

Thanks to PS and VIZ for the good fights as well, it was nice to get morale back up for my server with good fights that were seemingly lost, but still ending up on top.

Stay strong guys, don’t give up and just remember: it’s a game, have fun.

Peace <3

This trollma kid is crazy.

My only complaint about this matchup is this freaking lag. I’ve played multipayer games for years and i’ve never seen such severe lag as last night at Vizu BL. And Anet seriously stop with the achievements, most pvp players don’t care about them.

Respect to viz for coming out fighting! I thought this would happen! Its a shame most of SFR has already given up.

We only have ourselves to blame for our shotcomings! But i thought we could challenge you better than we have

dF was sat on your home borderlands at the weekend and we did enjoy ourselves (when we wasnt in queue) and it was the only map that was solid!

So thanks for the fights and good luck for the rest of the league

On a side note, no one should moan about achievement hunters as every server has to deal with them. What viz has done has embraced it and rallyed them on the commander

unfortunately most of them dont listen and dont even care what is happening in the map they just see capture 5 ruins and keep doing it until acheivement is done then move to another one. They dont even want to fight alongside commanders.

Not moaning about acheivement hunters just saying it shud have not been there in the first place. If Anet wanted these leagues to be competitive then they shud have let the pvpérs better space for it rather than make it a lag fest and acheivement point hunts.

The purpose of AP in leagues was so that who participated and contributed for their world in the leagues will only be rewarded (correct me if I am wrong on the statement).

And after 3 days what do you see people achieve with those AP? Did it fullfil its purpose? no, How I see it is people are abusing this feature to just get those AP stacked up are they really participating in Wvw league season 1? no, they are not. AP hunters had a lot of content in game to hunt those AP of theirs and get to 10k or what ever their target is wvw players had this only area they are interested in limited with 100 men cap each server. The content that was suppose to be released for wvw players is now swarmed with AP hunters. Dont you expect disappointment among those wvwérs?

A bunch of things that we should know, but we SFR chose to ignore:
- The queue will be huge, like skill lag and blobs;
- We will not have in the maps the players we want;
- The “attack” from grinders or transfers will affect our performance (our players from SFR are the worst part of this, because they don’t have any idea of watt is WWW);
- Rage quit will not help anyone in this battle;
- PS will double team us in any match, they have done it in the past all time we met them.

Before the league start we notice in EB map, the presence of the new players, the queue was very big, every time, and I’m going to say this for the first time, many times very early in the night was from EB that come the help to BL’s, people jump to other maps to help, and we get the leftovers and had to play with them.

On the weekend I have played more than 28 h in EB map, during that time, we had during much time our entire map with T3 towers, and one or two paper towers in the enemy land, because we had generally a good strategy, and because PS and VS still fight for SM, we took that opportunity to have good scores.

To all our brave commanders and players in EB I want to say that I’m very proud off all of you, and ofc to our dear scouts, including the new ones, thank you so much. To all players that still resist in our BL, keep fighting, we are SFR (sorry my dear friend Kresh but I couldn’t not help you last night, we had them at Klovan an WC at the same time).

To our opponents:
Nothing to say to PS.
To VS I have to say that if you win I will congratulate you, I know that you hate 2v1 as much as me, but it’s the game and you take the opportunity, my apologies to you guys to attack when you engaged PS near WC last night, not nice, but I really want to take PS down on the tunnel, we did, and next Anza and Mendon.

All the best Viz! I will be supporting you all the way.

Homura.8473:

Only u care and all those patetic pvers now joined the server

That’s why you loose mate…

Hexen.2930:

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

…
- PS will double team us in any match, they have done it in the past all time we met them.
…

To our opponents:
Nothing to say to PS.
…

It wasnt us resetting their stuff on their BL and it wasnt us resetting T3 hills on our BL.

Oh wait it was us. my bad
I love the spirit Vizunah Square shows. We fought and wiped them alot but they always stood up and came back till they wiped us. Love their mentality right now. Kudos for this guys

Hexen.2930:

…We fought them and wiped alot but they always stood up and came back till they wiped us…

*lemmings

Go Vizunah <3!

Troma.3250:

Hello guys

i can swear there is no alliance with piken, i do not even know someone on this server. The only thing i know, it’s they are respectful with us and they do not hesitate to attack us. Defended etheron myself with arrow cart for 1 hour yesterday vs a Piken army for example. And i did roam all nights versus piken/sfr groups in ruins many hours since the reset. I have many informations and battle reports of all this, no alliance. At all.

Concerning Vizunah, http://www.appelauxarmes.fr was checked 8000 times by 6200 people. 400 people on TS for the reset, zerk mode commanders, and many other things that i missed from old VS. We decided to enter in a total rage mode versus our classic nemesis, SFR. Wemil, Hebril and others bad words/taunts to us made me really strong will for battle.

A week before the league i stomped my fist on my table after reading classic hate and decided to build the mini-site.

I agree with Unknow and all he says. A wise guy.

See you in the battlefield !

Troma mate, i m not here to flame but really i want to tell you things from my point of view.

Your server is actually first in points for the following reasons:

1- The League that should have started 4 of october actually started at 18, that s exactly the day you have school holydays in france, so much more players online during night and morning. This is a perfect couter for our night and morning crew. You should thanks Anet for this.

2- Massive useless Achievements Hunters join WvW for the first time beacouse they want their Achie done NOW, most of em are bandwaggoners joined in the surplus time Anet gave em with the league start delay, so as you can see our ground force is little weaker than usual. You should thanks to Anet for this.

3- This case start with a more easy matchup would have helped us a lot sort things out, but OFC again the harder matchup comes up first. Again, you should thanks Anet for this.

So basically, at the end, you should thanks Anet for doing the best choices possible in order to advantage your server.

In the while we try our best to sort things out, we wont give up no matter what, it s not over till is over.

C u on the battlefield!

That Sarkozy dude probably did pressure anet.

Kingface.9781:

Junkpile.7439:

This trollma kid is crazy.

Keep going dude. You’re really helpful for your server.

Yes i am. I plan to play www tomorrow. Probably cap some keeps and towers. I think that trollma is like that kid in angry german kid video. He even hit table because somebody trolled in forums.

ilmau.9781:

2- Massive useless Achievements Hunters join WvW for the first time beacouse they want their Achie done NOW

You’re stubborn or what ?

We have players that come for the achievements too, but difference is, we try to convince them to fight with us, we don’t say they are useless or even pathetic, we try to play together, we invite them on Teamspeak, we help them if they have questions about WvW.

It’s not Anet fault if you are arrogant, it’s yours.

Fenalik.3865:

ilmau.9781:

2- Massive useless Achievements Hunters join WvW for the first time beacouse they want their Achie done NOW

You’re stubborn or what ?

We have players that come for the achievements too, but difference is, we try to convince them to fight with us, we don’t say they are useless or even pathetic, we try to play together, we invite them on Teamspeak, we help them if they have questions about WvW.

It’s not Anet fault if you are arrogant, it’s yours.

And you believe we have not done that?

Wemil.7052:

RING RING RING DING DING DING !

gw2 We are here! a league? SFR! focus up! get it done!

our target! put vizunah down to +30 in the morning! its show time we have trained a very very long time to get it done

omjega time! sadly I cant play everyday but I got good commanders to take over

welcome rich to sfr

bye bye vizunah total dominating hours.

what happened?

UnknownRH.4592:

unfortunately most of them dont listen and dont even care what is happening in the map they just see capture 5 ruins and keep doing it until acheivement is done then move to another one. They dont even want to fight alongside commanders.

Not moaning about acheivement hunters just saying it shud have not been there in the first place. If Anet wanted these leagues to be competitive then they shud have let the pvpérs better space for it rather than make it a lag fest and acheivement point hunts.

The purpose of AP in leagues was so that who participated and contributed for their world in the leagues will only be rewarded (correct me if I am wrong on the statement).

And after 3 days what do you see people achieve with those AP? Did it fullfil its purpose? no, How I see it is people are abusing this feature to just get those AP stacked up are they really participating in Wvw league season 1? no, they are not. AP hunters had a lot of content in game to hunt those AP of theirs and get to 10k or what ever their target is wvw players had this only area they are interested in limited with 100 men cap each server. The content that was suppose to be released for wvw players is now swarmed with AP hunters. Dont you expect disappointment among those wvwérs?

yep this is EXACTLY the problem.

i reply to the message above too

yesterday we had quee on home map. 48 on ts. i call ball up on me and /supplyinfo, perfect 47 near me. ALL the ppl on ts are with me.

Well, WHERE THE HECK ARE THE OTHER 30+ PLAYERS WE SHOULD HAVE ON THE MAP?!!??! not on ts, not following commander, not scouting, not roaming, not upgrading, WHERE THEY WHERE!?!!?

OFC, farming Achie. And in the while we get trouble holding stuffs againist full map blob.

so, i was right, they are usueless bunch of farmers. Nothing more.

we do everything we can to get ppl in our community and in our TS, it s just that LOT of ppl who join WWW those days are only achie farmers who cares only about they account rating and nothing more.