22/11 Blacktide / Fissure of Woe / Vabbi
Well, I’m lagging horribly but I and many others are at the arena in the Obsidian Sanctum for those coming for duels and/or group fights.
Theres a few from each server there atm, hopefully some more shall arrive. Jathres promised me that there will be GvG’s!
Currently @ Piken Square
Small scale unimpressive videos of unimpressiveness: http://www.youtube.com/neandramathal
Sad I can’t be there for the actual duel event tonight. Had tonnes of fun yesterday using my cheese PU build Who were the two [Imp]’s I fought last night?
Fissure of Woe ):
Looking for 3v3 (2 Tech, 1 LST)
FoW / blacktide??? Whisper me!
Oh yeah, I’ll be on an asura with radiant & purple hair. :P
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I’m terrible at dueling but quite enjoying the event! \o/ Should do this more often!
RL left me only 20 minutes for the Event and i got two nice fights, i’m very happy about that ^^
Hope everybody had many good fights and fun, good hunting to you all.
Now that Jd have gone theres very few BT/FoW here, asides from LUPI from FoW who just seem intent on raging and trying to gank us ^^.
Any other guilds coming for 3-5 v 3-5?
Currently @ Piken Square
Small scale unimpressive videos of unimpressiveness: http://www.youtube.com/neandramathal
still up for 3v3 or 4v4
Sad I can’t be there for the actual duel event tonight. Had tonnes of fun yesterday using my cheese PU build Who were the two [Imp]’s I fought last night?
I was the shatter mes, Elean was ele.
I hate fight PU, so hard to beat as a shatter :c
Smallscale <3 Vabbi
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Thanks for the fights to PvP. Showed us we have a lot to learn on team fights compared to roaming. xD
I have tell that i post here screnshots of players who cheats today to move inside FOW Garri. I hanged my mind. I know there always will be cheaters and exploiters who will spoil fun from other players. But its Anet work to reveal them and punish, not my. So good luck for all fair play players
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Thanks for the GvG’s. Good turnout tonight in the end!
Currently @ Piken Square
Small scale unimpressive videos of unimpressiveness: http://www.youtube.com/neandramathal
Thanks to you Tech, LST and Imp! We still have lots to learn as well, we had fun and good fights, indeed roaming and team fights are a completely different matter, we shall improve. \o/
@ Kilena (Blacktide [INFI] warrior)
Sorry if I seemed a little frustrated by the end, I’m pretty tired and it felt like I had been dueling you for hours. While the fights were interesting it was getting a little repetitive. Thank you for the fights, it’s certainly different to meet an opponent who uses every weapon, although the comments regarding build were a little irritating.
I don’t really have any other weapons on this character (recent race-reroll) so I can’t really adapt to the same extent. I’m glad I managed to beat you once with the full combo of hammer and 3 stabilities/double endure pain, but it’s not likely to be a common occurrence – there’s only so much time I can buy with evades.
Anyway, gg. See you next time we fight BT perhaps.
Currently @ Piken Square
Small scale unimpressive videos of unimpressiveness: http://www.youtube.com/neandramathal
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I pity the warrior using Axe/Axe+Rifle without Healing Signet. It is, like, the worst build ever? Back in the meta where warriors were free kills.
And he is even ranked Silver Invader, LOL! So much zerging with that, guess he tags a lot of people with the reflect from hammer 5 (and lol at the mesmer who used pistol #5 and at the warrior who used GS #4 on him while spinning, hitting themselves).
Clearly a l2p issue from the warrior; nice to see a shatter mesmer instead than a broken PU, but the fotm hammer warrior was pretty much carried by his build – he could have just autoattacked and still won.
Sin, you’re one of the worst players I’ve ever seen considered the skill/time spent ratio, it’s almost embarassing
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I pity the warrior using Axe/Axe+Rifle without Healing Signet. It is, like, the worst build ever? Back in the meta where warriors were free kills.
And he is even ranked Silver Invader, LOL! So much zerging with that, guess he tags a lot of people with the reflect from hammer 5 (and lol at the mesmer who used pistol #5 and at the warrior who used GS #4 on him while spinning, hitting themselves).Clearly a l2p issue from the warrior; nice to see a shatter mesmer instead than a broken PU, but the fotm hammer warrior was pretty much carried by his build – he could have just autoattacked and still won.
Sin, you’re one of the worst players I’ve ever seen considered the skill/time spent ratio, it’s almost embarassing
I’m the mesmer, I have no idea what reflect you’re refering to (Hammer? i assume you mean axe.) Either way this doesn’t reflect. It’s only the thief version which does.
As for the warrior being carried by his build, They dueled again today and rythern used greatsword +axe shield with no armour and still managed to win. ;o
Smallscale <3 Vabbi
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I pity the warrior using Axe/Axe+Rifle without Healing Signet. It is, like, the worst build ever? Back in the meta where warriors were free kills.
And he is even ranked Silver Invader, LOL! So much zerging with that, guess he tags a lot of people with the reflect from hammer 5 (and lol at the mesmer who used pistol #5 and at the warrior who used GS #4 on him while spinning, hitting themselves).Clearly a l2p issue from the warrior; nice to see a shatter mesmer instead than a broken PU, but the fotm hammer warrior was pretty much carried by his build – he could have just autoattacked and still won.
Sin, you’re one of the worst players I’ve ever seen considered the skill/time spent ratio, it’s almost embarassing
Erm.. okay, I assume you meant Axe 5 not hammer 5 – It doesn’t reflect, the thief version does, warrior doesn’t.
Even if hammer is strong atm (tbh it’s not changed since launch other than the change to healing signet) it’s not like auto-attack alone could win, if there is any weapon that could autoattack to victory its axe. I know this is exaggerating to make a point, but still!
TBH, I ran the build for a bit today dueling vs guild (even without healing signet), and it’s not THAT terrible.
As for the warrior being carried by his build, They dueled again today and rythern used greatsword +axe shield with no armour and still managed to win. ;o
Well, he won the ones he had no armor on.. lost the ones with armor just to make it more confusing. That guy really needs to learn to pay attention without someone yelling COOKIES every 30s.
Currently @ Piken Square
Small scale unimpressive videos of unimpressiveness: http://www.youtube.com/neandramathal
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That guy really needs to learn to pay attention without someone yelling COOKIES every 30s.
Yeah, i already spent like 3 gold on cookies to get him to follow!
Smallscale <3 Vabbi
The Original Dudes [to]
The best part is when he pressed “D” for 3 seconds in order to turn his body.
Thanks to everyone that showed up last night for duels. A lot of people showed up and i’m really glad.
I personally had a lot of fun dueling everyone. ^^
Special shout outs to Jd an PvP guys for more than interesting fights.
Hope this trend of lots of people showing up for the event continues.
Cheers! ^^
[Imp] – Impact Eu
Dolyak love between servers… oooohhhh))
That’s it, after reading this thread I have decided to move/take a vacation on Vabbi. See you tonight ladies and gentlemen… and Molenda
Thanks to you Tech, LST and Imp! *
We still have lots to learn as well*
No you don’t. xD How many times did you beat us unsuspecting poor tech witless? :P
I think 4 times?
Fight 1: thief/warr/mesmer/guard vs. guard/guard/warr/mesmer 0-1
Fight 2: guardian/warr/mesmer/engineer vs. guard/guard/warr/mesmer 0-2
Fight 3: I think I forgot one? Dunno what we ran there.
Fight 4: guardian/warr/warr vs. guard/guard/warr 0-4
Guess we need to train against heavy set-ups. Can I inform as to your respective team builds, I’m interested what killed us. As for us:
- on thief I was zerk, backstab, d/p build
- on guardian I was mix of knight/soldier, meditation build
- Duyall on warr was hammer/gs, custom stun/burst
- our mesmer Amasage was running blackwater (he hates mesmer though)
- Max was guardian first fight, don’t know his build
- Max on engineer second was mostly condition, no heal
- on warr he ran stunlock, but he swapped hammer instead of gs
I think our main problems were:
- Your mesmer was really high dmg, and very evasive. We noticed he had very low health, since we nearly killed him on 2nd match but he blinked to other side of the arena.
- With your 2 guardians I’m guessing a lot of shouts; stability, regen, protection, making our CC totally useless. I’m also guessing our blackwater mes couln’t do much cause of continuous condi removal.
- We didn’t have party-wide stability buffs.
- Overall not enough group healing and sustained heal/buff, most of the builds used were for solo or 2-3 man roaming, camp capping and a lot of mobility combined with bursts. Didn’t do much good in a situation where we had to do a standing fight.
Really interested in your builds though
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That’s it, after reading this thread I have decided to move/take a vacation on Vabbi. See you tonight ladies and gentlemen… and Molenda
Sorry, we’re full. We don’t need any good roamers in here!
But YAY!
PS: Run hammer build so you can 3 shot AoE Blacktide players.
And to add to the cheer: Here’s the best video I ever saw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfVU5MTF1EM
ah yes, i remember that awesome vid. but this is no match for a necromancer jp denying skills!
That’s it, after reading this thread I have decided to move/take a vacation on Vabbi. See you tonight ladies and gentlemen… and Molenda
Sorry, we’re full. We don’t need any good roamers in here!
But YAY!
PS: Run hammer build so you can 3 shot AoE Blacktide players.
I’ll bring my green axe, cottoncandy greatsword and my pocket mesmer.
That’s it, after reading this thread I have decided to move/take a vacation on Vabbi. See you tonight ladies and gentlemen… and Molenda
Sorry, we’re full. We don’t need any good roamers in here!
But YAY!
PS: Run hammer build so you can 3 shot AoE Blacktide players.
I’ll bring my green axe, cottoncandy greatsword and my pocket mesmer.
Don’t forget your pink quaggan backpack
All alone in space and time.
There’s nothing here but whats here is mine.
Hi, i made this video about yesterday fighs in WvsW :
Thanks to you Tech, LST and Imp! *
We still have lots to learn as well*
No you don’t. xD How many times did you beat us unsuspecting poor tech witless? :P
I think 4 times?
Fight 1: thief/warr/mesmer/guard vs. guard/guard/warr/mesmer 0-1
Fight 2: guardian/warr/mesmer/engineer vs. guard/guard/warr/mesmer 0-2
Fight 3: I think I forgot one? Dunno what we ran there.
Fight 4: guardian/warr/warr vs. guard/guard/warr 0-4Guess we need to train against heavy set-ups. Can I inform as to your respective team builds, I’m interested what killed us. As for us:
- on thief I was zerk, backstab, d/p build
- on guardian I was mix of knight/soldier, meditation build
- Duyall on warr was hammer/gs, custom stun/burst
- our mesmer Amasage was running blackwater (he hates mesmer though)
- Max was guardian first fight, don’t know his build
- Max on engineer second was mostly condition, no heal
- on warr he ran stunlock, but he swapped hammer instead of gsI think our main problems were:
- Your mesmer was really high dmg, and very evasive. We noticed he had very low health, since we nearly killed him on 2nd match but he blinked to other side of the arena.
- With your 2 guardians I’m guessing a lot of shouts; stability, regen, protection, making our CC totally useless. I’m also guessing our blackwater mes couln’t do much cause of continuous condi removal.
- We didn’t have party-wide stability buffs.
- Overall not enough group healing and sustained heal/buff, most of the builds used were for solo or 2-3 man roaming, camp capping and a lot of mobility combined with bursts. Didn’t do much good in a situation where we had to do a standing fight.Really interested in your builds though
..well overall i would say you have seized the main issue about “what” exactly did kill your team
You see, i think, there is not a “perfect” build or a superior team setup above all, it is all about what do you have to do with that team and what kind of enemies you will have to counter.
In other words, starting from your correct analysis, try to figure out the way (work on the builds) to strenghten your team, maybe try to establish what are the “key” boons you want to have at all costs and for the longer period of time possible during a fight and what are those conditions you surely need to avoid in order to grant your team a more stable and healthy fight.
Also try and assign different “role” to each member of your team so they can practice that same role over and over, until each one of you become part of something which eventually will work in symbiosis.
Naturally, every scenario is different and so should be the roles involved.
Picking the right opponent as main first target could make a huge difference.
Sometime “not” picking a target could be the wiser choice too :p
In conclusion, as Effsee said earlier, we too have a lot to learn yet.
It seems although our guilds share the same willing to improve themselves and that alone, is enough to forsee more “fun” coming :p
Thanks again for the fights and see you around, we hope…
Kaosberg De Lay
Deflora Pulzelle