@svartadaudir.8710
First of all, I agree – we play different games. And that is the problem, Abaddon plays yet another different game. And I don’t see the reason why should they play differently to make OUR games more fun, because, why should they (I know I am doing a HORRIBLE generalization)? What they play is fun for THEM. I see no reason to try to “shame” them into playing like me or you want them to, because what for?
I can write “everyone who does not roam in small groups is a bad person who tortures little puppies and they sing Justin Bieber too! Ah, and they have no honor!” to try to convince every PUG and raider to play like I would like them to, but this would be pointless – different people, different things are fun for them. And if you ask how someone can find following a commander in large PvD group fun, I don’t know. But I don’t know how can someone find fun in coordinated 20-30 people raid vs 30-40 people PUG with no voicecomms either.
So here we have to live in three different worlds and we have to deal with it :-). I consider all playstyles viable, simply only one of those appeals to me.
I am not here to make YOUR (plural you) game more fun, it is YOUR responsibility, as much as it is MY responsibility to find fun in a game, not YOURS.
DISCLAIMER:
I am not saying “raiding guilds are evil” or “PUGs following commander are evil”. Those playstyle are simply alien to me.
What do I do when roaming?
It is not only camps. Group of 3 of us managed to take Bay from a server in silver league, defended by 1 enemy player (when enemies were busy in large fights). We have taken Hills from another silver server in 5 of us, using “secret cata spot”. Nobody came, but they could any minute (it was primetime btw). So in terms of PvD we have many options :-). You don’t need more than 3 to take a keep PvD, 5 are ideal (superior ram and one run for resupply or sneaky cata at hills).
It is usual for 4 people to attack a tower (2 people, if it is Briar/Lake and Vale/Water camp is ours). Even if protected, if we get the ram up, we can often destroy that gate. Even if we don’t, we force enemy to keep scouts and to be on alert in northern positions. When we coordinated with other roaming group earlier, we attacked simultaneously two towers, NW and NE, taking one (because larger group went to defend NW tower, as their zerg defended a keep from other zerg). If we have 4 people, it is very often that we split, 2 players go Arah, 2 Astralholme, to get camps before a tick, then meet together in Godsword killing dolyaks on a way.
For me this is “strategic enough” to look at the map and judging from the swords decide if we can attack a tower, try a keep or tap something to give an illusion of a ninja strike. The fact enemies operate in teams which can be weaker or stronger than us makes the game MUCH more fun – 4 of us managed to wipe a larger group, ~10, defending Vale with 4 ballistae (2 Spread Shot operators).
We strike at ruins a lot, trying to have them as much as possible. When enemy operate in larger groups in ruins, we surgically strike at one site when they are trying to take them from us. Even group of 10 has to split to at least 2 groups to take the ruins, and 3 vs 5 is a difficult, but possible fight.
I want to be steamrolled sometimes, I want to gank a poor upleveled guardian sometimes, I want to have fair duels I win or lose, I want to win 3 vs 4 and I want to lose 4 vs 3. The unpredictability of WvW is what makes it so fun for me. But it is me, my playstyle, my way of thinking and my own opinion. I have no honor at all (but I respect the dueling spot).
Small groups have MUCH more options than large groups and many more interesting character builds open, especially if you play with people who know you. Bonus: you don’t need voicechat. Game is far more unpredictable, chaotic and messy. Siege becomes an interesting option, you can run to attack or defend and most people don’t report groups of 2-3. The high risk – high reward is what I actually find very appealing.
I kill much less players than you do, I think, but my fights are more “personal”. I see differences between builds, between playstyles. I meet – and remember – many good opponents from all the servers I fight (shoutout to the Abaddon mesmer I met today in 1 vs 1 near GH Arah, we both got each other to downstate. GG.). My fun doesn’t rely on enemy server that much, because in every matchup I will find something for me.
And I play WvW for a year already. Still is fun for me. Roamer from the beginning. And yes, I still suck compared to good players out there :-).
We can continue this topic, but I think PMs will be better; most people won’t be interested in this one, I think.
