Guild Wars 2

Gooj.8561:

Jahn.7019:

they have already stated after the Asia servers are up, they are going to implement ppt adjustments when certain servers have a presence against those that don’t.

Source? I’d like to read up on this

Same queestion : source ?

Ace.9861:

FEAR would like to welcome [BG] “Sponsored by Nike” to SOR. You guys did very well on the battlefield. Your team will be a great addition to our community. We could use the numbers in oceanic time. See you guys on the battlefield.

Saw they took the time to crash a GvG today. Very productive use of the 3500 gold we paid for them to transfer over…..

Good GvG today [RE]. Shame those SoR [FEAR] trolls in [BG] tags had to come rolling in at the end.

Final Score: [RISE] 3 to 0 [RE]

I’ve lost all respect for SOR.

DeadlySynz.3471:

hammer.9721:

DeadlySynz.3471:

DeadlySynz.3471:

Anet could solve the point differential made by overwhelming SEA numbers is to just turn of the PPT during the overnight hours. Or at least the overnight hours native to that area. Basically when people should generally be sleeping, the points don’t tick..

Would that make people happy? How might the results look then?

The intent of you post seems honest so I think it deserves an honest response.

The fact is, this game is available to be purchased and played by just about anyone in the world, and because of this, Anet cannot lock out content to the prime play times of one specific region. When a player in North America is usually sleeping, a player in Australia just got home from work, ate dinner, and is ready for some WvW. Not to mention there are people who may work a grave shift, and play during work/school hours for many.

I don’t mean the content is being locked out, it means everything remains the same. Players can do whatever they want, cap everything, siege everything all to high kitten. Fight small groups, zergs, get loot bags, karma, gold, etc.. The only difference, that ticker on the top of the screen reads “0”. That’s the only change.

I would presume, or at least I’d hope those who are in T1 (and who transferred here) are here for the fights, not the PPT. If they’re here for the PPT, they are probably in the wrong Tier. Many other tiers that can be transferred to, to rack up the PPT if they so choose. From what I understand, the general consensus was those who are here, are here for the fights because there are lots of them. If this is the case, then most should not be against shutting down the tick during off hours.

The idea has been kicked around 2-3 weeks ago and did have overwhelming support. Perhaps in the past it didn’t, but now (from what I’ve seen), it does.

Their play time wouldn’t be less valuable than others. I’d say capturing whatever you can, upgrading it, and filling it full of siege for the next group is a lot more valuable than you think.

Before the prime timers log, they try and leave the SEA crowd something to work with, so they can concentrate on offense. Vice versa, the SEA crowd should be leaving as much as they can for the next group to come on.

The PPT is basically a by-product of whats going on and doesn’t need to be ticking during the off hours. It’s not a measure of skill nor a reflection of a servers capability to have large amounts of people playing from different time zones.

People need to ask themselves these 2 things:

1) If Anet does decide to shut off PPT during the off hours, what are the SEA people going to do who have the capability to play during a time slot where it ticks? Do they swap severs? Could this be a possible answer to server population mismatches? For Anet, the quickest and easiest solution to many blowout matches is to just turn off the PPT during off hours.

2) How exactly would T1 look if the PPT was shut off during off hours? On reset night, it was pretty much dead even up until people started logging off. It was close, it was fun (minus the skill lag of course). I can’t speak for others, but I think people have more fun in close matches than they do during the extreme blow out matches that we see.

This will never happen and should never happen, as it would marginalise half of the active WvW population. Just because you are asleep doesn’t mean the Oceanic/SEA/EU players are somehow less competitive than NA, posts like these will kitten off a lot of people because it is completely arrogant and ignorant as hell.

To counter the first point, no they wouldn’t switch servers because of the communities that were established on those servers. No-one wants to move because its a massive cost to the guild, in terms of influence, money and members that leave because of it.

In regards to the second, it would most likely be as it is now in each of the match-ups but probably with less people because removing SEA/oceanics/EU from the game in regards to score would make most of T1 quit.

So no, its a bad idea

Neuromancer.2148:

You’re talking to a MERC member who joined the guild because it was the best way I could butt heads with Waha’s forces on a nightly basis. If that’s not playing for the fights, I don’t know what is.

I’m not saying you’re playing for one or the other.

I was just making a general statement. Good to hear you’re playing for fights.

Good GvG verse Rethesis today 3-0 our win. Video later will be updated <3

Jahn.7019:

Neuromancer.2148:

You’re talking to a MERC member who joined the guild because it was the best way I could butt heads with Waha’s forces on a nightly basis. If that’s not playing for the fights, I don’t know what is.

I’m not saying you’re playing for one or the other.

I was just making a general statement. Good to hear you’re playing for fights.

I cite my example because it’s the general atmosphere of the server. You should check it out for yourself before making any more general statements that are really neither here nor there in describing Blackgate.

MagiKarp.8201:

and these people are not in Tier 1.

1. There are no tiers any more.
2. It is possible to want to be part of large scale fights and not care about the PPT.

The mass BG posters say otherwise, including others in your guild.

Forum posts are but a sliver of the whole community.

morrolan.9608:

MagiKarp.8201:

and these people are not in Tier 1.

1. There are no tiers any more.
2. It is possible to want to be part of large scale fights and not care about the PPT.

I’d ask you, Jahn, and whoever else insists upon your first point to log into the leaderboards, click the WvW header, and take note of the right-most column. There are tiers. While they are more flexible than in the past, they still exist and are a reasonable way to describe the scale/tactics that get employed in the most active WvW servers. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its a tier.

As for your second point, I agree wholeheartedly. But to steadfastly insist that fights and PPT are not inextricably linked is shortsighted (I’m not directing that specifically at you). I think if any server is within spitting distance of taking a points victory toward the week’s end will push for it, and fair enough.

Attack and defense of objectives leads to fights and simultaneously has an effect on PPT. They are not islands, and trying to separate the two to form the basis of an argument in this debate is an extremely selective way to go about it.

SykkoB.9465:

u know when tc does there dolyak parade thing, should get a bunch of rifle warrior on hills and have a YAk hunt.

We have an FA tradition to uphold.

Teikoku.2068:

Sorry Cuddles! There is a new Asura in town.

It’s cute you think I mind :P MORE ASURAS THE MERRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

Maybe we can run into each other…..

IRSyKo.5843:

SykkoB.9465:

u know when tc does there dolyak parade thing, should get a bunch of rifle warrior on hills and have a YAk hunt.

We have an FA tradition to uphold.

they can rp as a yak, and we can rp as elmer fudd. Only dif is instead of hunting rabbits its yaks

RP!!!~~

Hello guys,

About the ‘Asia’ server, it’s not exactly an Asia server, it’s Guild Wars 2 China and its on beta stage already. This might affect Taiwanese folks within servers but won’t affect the rest of Asian population.

syNc

Have you lost your kite due to a sudden death in WvW?

Fear not, Quaggan-Moose Investigations is on the trail.

syNc.5840:

Hello guys,

About the ‘Asia’ server, it’s not exactly an Asia server, it’s Guild Wars 2 China and its on beta stage already. This might affect Taiwanese folks within servers but won’t affect the rest of Asian population.

syNc

Great news.
Now apart from- training, i see ppt as pile of feces, summer holiday, network issue, no mercy 2v1, very unwitty BG SEA blob….
SOR could add another potential reason to the list, yay!

Score Update!

Lurking in the ebg jp…. nothing to see here..

Jahn.7019:

If you care about those, then go for it. But as of now, there’s 2 schools of WvWers.

The PPT focused and the Fight focused.

The solution to this dilemma

weekly video of [RISE] tagless

Cirus.5748:

Jahn.7019:

If you care about those, then go for it. But as of now, there’s 2 schools of WvWers.

The PPT focused and the Fight focused.

The solution to this dilemma

This made me laugh.

Kiff.8157:

syNc.5840:

Hello guys,

About the ‘Asia’ server, it’s not exactly an Asia server, it’s Guild Wars 2 China and its on beta stage already. This might affect Taiwanese folks within servers but won’t affect the rest of Asian population.

syNc

Great news.
Now apart from- training, i see ppt as pile of feces, summer holiday, network issue, no mercy 2v1, very unwitty BG SEA blob….
SOR could add another potential reason to the list, yay!

Hello Lieutenant Kif,

I like the way you think, please keep it up! Now fetch some pants for Zapp Brannigan.

syNc

look like some one is off training again

good though BG can chill now.

but give SoR credits for making it tougher than last week.

Good fights with BG and SoR in SoR BL tonight. Especially the BG warrior who just wouldn’t die and the SoR mes. Also, kudos to RISE for the GvG. It was fun watching regardless of the outcome.

Sunt.6835:

look like some one is off training again

good though BG can chill now.

but give SoR credits for making it tougher than last week.

Grats on winning the population battle. I will continue to enjoy countless kills during NA and you guys can have the karma.

It used to be zerg vs zerg. Now apparently its zerg vs map cap # players + omega golems.

Where will it end? SoR with 60 Omegas in every blobs?

Score Update!

Welcome Paaaaaaannnnnnda! And my long lost brother Silverbottle

CuddleStrike.8215:

Score Update!

Welcome Paaaaaaannnnnnda! And my long lost brother Silverbottle

LOL!

So adorable

Thanks BG and SoR for the T1-type of experience this week. I’ve seen some things I’d yet to see in WvW. For example, this is almost the most people I’ve ever seen in one place on a map. I say almost because this was after ~35 of us were wiped:

eldavo.6054:

Thanks BG and SoR for the T1-type of experience this week. I’ve seen some things I’d yet to see in WvW. For example, this is almost the most people I’ve ever seen in one place on a map. I say almost because this was after ~35 of us were wiped:

‘Well ya ain’t seen nothin’ yet’ DU DU DA DU

just wanted to say… i am SUPER excited for permanent PvP finishers!DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Jahn.7019:

If you care about those, then go for it. But as of now, there’s 2 schools of WvWers.

The PPT focused and the Fight focused.

So you are saying is, when taking a tower/keep there are no fights at all? Is it purely Pvdoor?

It is easy to pit 20+ against 20+, but much harder to come up with a strategy in the heat of a battle to decide which structure you want to sacrifice and which you want to hold on to. If you go back to ancient threads of matchups SoR won, you will realise you are in the minority even in SoR on this issue. SoR either ‘plays for fights’ or ‘is training’ when losing according to forum trolls. You guys portray your server in a very bad light, but as I said before, you guys are in the minority on SoR.

RISE vs. RE GvG video update! enjoy!

SykkoB.9465:

IRSyKo.5843:

SykkoB.9465:

u know when tc does there dolyak parade thing, should get a bunch of rifle warrior on hills and have a YAk hunt.

We have an FA tradition to uphold.

they can rp as a yak, and we can rp as elmer fudd. Only dif is instead of hunting rabbits its yaks

RP!!!~~

FA rp’d as the Animal Control [YAK]
They’ve massacred like 5 dolyak parades now lol

Nobody interfered very fun GvG with [RE] much respect with former teammates back in Kaineng /salute

I find it funny that for all those months Foo was carrying JQ on their back to the number one spot and beating BG down to 2nd and third place , not once did this " limiting over night PPT " discussion come up.

Isn’t MMO if no trash talk

Reiko.1560:

I wish I saved those posts of TC chest thumping and handing out advice to lower tiered servers on how to get better since it’s not all about coverage. I’ve enjoyed watching TC and DB this week. LMFAO

whats irritating is that those chest thumpers disappeared once we aren’t winning but still keep the server at full status.

Now now be nice. Everyone gets their chance in the spotlight. No ningas kugon please.

This needs to happen sometime. SOMETIME. ;^;
http://youtu.be/UcVzFLl77zM

Darkjoy.3092:

I find it funny that for all those months Foo was carrying JQ on their back to the number one spot and beating BG down to 2nd and third place , not once did this " limiting over night PPT " discussion come up.

It’s just a few silly people. Ignore.

electriette.8952:

This needs to happen sometime. SOMETIME. ;^;
http://youtu.be/UcVzFLl77zM

Now that’s some nice interserver diplomacy.

That is how victories need to be determined. Hurr hurr.

Also

Cookies and Mudpies coming your way TC. Courtesy of Blackgate.

y u no give us tea

Burl.9567:

Achilles.2197:

Staff eles can survive pretty well…

They have a ton of kiting abilities that can be cast behind/below them while running. Cantrips help too, of course.

No one is disputing their lengthy ability to survive. They aren’t winning a 1v1 though. They don’t have the DPS to do it.

I 1v1-ed a staff ele (with my staff ele) once.. The fight took so long that the 5-min Righteous Indignation timer cooled off after I downed him..

LaMisT.1863:

Reiko.1560:

I wish I saved those posts of TC chest thumping and handing out advice to lower tiered servers on how to get better since it’s not all about coverage. I’ve enjoyed watching TC and DB this week. LMFAO

whats irritating is that those chest thumpers disappeared once we aren’t winning but still keep the server at full status.

Oh they didn’t disappear. They still showed up (since most of them are part of our wvw guilds) but they became nice people

It is wednesday, and the game is almost up for this matchup. So far, I’d like some constructive criticisms on our sea/oceanic time zone from sor and bg. What do you think we need to improve on from your point of view.

P.s. you can pm me if you don’t want to post in this thread.

^,.,^

Akio.1749:

Good GvG today [RE]. Shame those SoR [FEAR] & [TW] trolls in [BG] tags had to come rolling in at the end.

Final Score: [RISE] 3 to 0 [RE]

Woah, you better slow down with that. There was absolutely no TW involved. We ported back to garrison and then into EB long before any of that happened. I suggest that you get yours facts straight before blasting someone on the forums. I expect you to man up and retract that statement and issue an apology.

Vagrant.1094:

Have you lost your kite due to a sudden death in WvW?

Fear not, Quaggan-Moose Investigations is on the trail.

Someone stole my sweetroll. I’d pay well to get it back.

0.0;;

Look at those blue ants.