Guild Wars 2

I was rather disappointed last night. I was hoping the new mechanics were going to break the zergs up some but it appeared it did the actual opposite.

The lag in the BLs was just atrocious and fights came down to who had more people spamming 1. Hopefully it dies down some and new tactics force the zergs to split up.

JaredKincade.9761:

Today, two more myths were busted (besides the walrus).

That SOR murders BG in open field fights.

That BG blobs more than SOR.

The first day that fighting became attached to the actual score of the match, BG gains score, even though BG was losing in PPT.

We don’t blob, you do.

We don’t suck in open field, we take the lead with it.

BG’s small roaming individuals and small groups came out to WvW tonight and kicked kitten . Today was great great fun. I’ll enjoy SORBLs bloodlust for months to come.

:)

Thank you mr. bgtroll. Plz keep us updated on ur brilliant insight of this matchup. I expect atleast one a day.

I can’t tell, do people like the changes or not? Or does no one care one way or the other?

i honestly dont care about the bloodlust stacks, the lag that comes from them is the problem i have.

Good fights tonight Ge

I’ll like the update once everyone stops zerging the middle and allows the havocs to roam in peace. Also I’ll like the update when warriors becomes not extremely imbalanced … but that will never happen.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I can’t tell, do people like the changes or not? Or does no one care one way or the other?

On the long run I can say that SoR will complain about the world point per kill XD but if they were what they always claim to be they would have a very high % AND IT DOESN’T SHOW that because they have been always making fake statesment that noone believed ever at least now we have game data providing true colors.
BG 36.32% and n°1 from every servers in the “farm your ennemy” % XD
JQ 30.46% and n°9
SoR 29.38% and n°13 (lol)

Is it true that the bloodlust buff is causing the lag?

Score Update!

This is how we party on a wednesday night!

Amjrn loves to twerk it

Azure.8412:

Is it true that the bloodlust buff is causing the lag?

Is it still true to your claim that MERC is headed to JQ?
Your answer will answer the question you have asked.

Titan.3472:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I can’t tell, do people like the changes or not? Or does no one care one way or the other?

On the long run I can say that SoR will complain about the world point per kill XD but if they were what they always claim to be they would have a very high % AND IT DOESN’T SHOW that because they have been always making fake statesment that noone believed ever at least now we have game data providing true colors.
BG 36.32% and n°1 from every servers in the “farm your ennemy” % XD
JQ 30.46% and n°9
SoR 29.38% and n°13 (lol)

I agree with you – SoR will probably complain the most about this new meta. It goes against their long standing tactic of map blobbing / lagging the enemy and exploiting game mechanics to get kills/objectives.

Rigel.3092:

Azure.8412:

Is it true that the bloodlust buff is causing the lag?

Is it still true to your claim that MERC is headed to JQ?
Your answer will answer the question you have asked.

I guess thats a YES then. Anyway, some JQ leaders really want MERC, for real though. Some… Asian JQ leaders.

Had fun last night on BGBL. The lag was incredibly stupid, but the fights were great. BG had some sneaky sneaky siege set up in garry to hit the center, and it was fun figuring out the best way to balance bloodlust with holding objectives. Good stuff.

Azure.8412:

Rigel.3092:

Azure.8412:

Is it true that the bloodlust buff is causing the lag?

Is it still true to your claim that MERC is headed to JQ?
Your answer will answer the question you have asked.

I guess thats a YES then. Anyway, some JQ leaders really want MERC, for real though. Some… Asian JQ leaders.

nah we are going to fa to fight to alongside meow

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

SoR – We don’t stomp, we curbstomp.

What an insane day it has been.

Brutus.5732:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

you guys give us no options. all you do is run into keep/tower and hide behind the ac’s

Burl.9567:

I was rather disappointed last night. I was hoping the new mechanics were going to break the zergs up some but it appeared it did the actual opposite.

The lag in the BLs was just atrocious and fights came down to who had more people spamming 1. Hopefully it dies down some and new tactics force the zergs to split up.

Its either super big zerg or pvp style roaming.
There’s still no room for 15~20 team

Tam.3146:

Burl.9567:

I was rather disappointed last night. I was hoping the new mechanics were going to break the zergs up some but it appeared it did the actual opposite.

The lag in the BLs was just atrocious and fights came down to who had more people spamming 1. Hopefully it dies down some and new tactics force the zergs to split up.

Its either super big zerg or pvp style roaming.
There’s still no room for 15~20 team

All I’ve seen today on BG are 20 or 30 man teams all over the borderlands. I haven’t seen large BG zergs except on EB.

Stealth.8150:

Brutus.5732:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

you guys give us no options. all you do is run into keep/tower and hide behind the ac’s

While all you do is PvF. Go do something useful on the field.

Azure.8412:

Stealth.8150:

Brutus.5732:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

you guys give us no options. all you do is run into keep/tower and hide behind the ac’s

While all you do is PvF. Go do something useful on the field.

Hypocrite…..

Titan.3472:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I can’t tell, do people like the changes or not? Or does no one care one way or the other?

On the long run I can say that SoR will complain about the world point per kill XD but if they were what they always claim to be they would have a very high % AND IT DOESN’T SHOW that because they have been always making fake statesment that noone believed ever at least now we have game data providing true colors.
BG 36.32% and n°1 from every servers in the “farm your ennemy” % XD
JQ 30.46% and n°9
SoR 29.38% and n°13 (lol)

This would be twisting the data that is collected to what you want to perceive. The analytics do not show 100% of the fights that are going on out there, this would only prove that BG places priority on the middle cap points instead of objective holding.

Consider the following, BG on BG BL, primarily rolling 40-60 deep in the middle of the map at the cap points, SoR and JQ from what I have seen attempt to send smaller squads in, they get farmed. Each small team that gets farmed is another 5-10 stomps, this translates in to score. What the score will not show is when JQ or SoR counter blob or zerg the middle and clear the whole middle ruins out. It is this period that neither SoR or JQ has bloodlust to translate this in to score, hence the factual data presented as to “whom really does play for points” is not reliable. Again, this would go for whoever has a server playstyle of placing priority on middle caps as opposed to objectives.

Just take this outlook when you analyze the data that is presented, these are mechanics that should be clearly defined when posting such “factual” data.

Stealth.8150:

Brutus.5732:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

you guys give us no options. all you do is run into keep/tower and hide behind the ac’s

You have my sincerest apologies. We get so many bags from your server on a daily basis and it seems impossible to sell fast enough. But you’ll be happy to know we’re working to improve on that. Were starting donation funds to make sure our entire server is outfitted with full 20 slot bags and encouraging everyone to try and buy an endless salvage kit. We’ll make it and get to the point that we dont need a sell break from farming your zergs and can keep giving you guys the attention you so richly deserve. : )

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Stealth.8150:

Brutus.5732:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

you guys give us no options. all you do is run into keep/tower and hide behind the ac’s

You have my sincerest apologies. We get so many bags from your server on a daily basis and it seems impossible to sell fast enough. But you’ll be happy to know we’re working to improve on that. Were starting donation funds to make sure our entire server is outfitted with full 20 slot bags and encouraging everyone to try and buy an endless salvage kit. We’ll make it and get to the point that we dont need a sell break from farming your zergs and can keep giving you guys the attention you so richly deserve. : )

I like this guy…

Jedbacca.6297:

Titan.3472:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I can’t tell, do people like the changes or not? Or does no one care one way or the other?

On the long run I can say that SoR will complain about the world point per kill XD but if they were what they always claim to be they would have a very high % AND IT DOESN’T SHOW that because they have been always making fake statesment that noone believed ever at least now we have game data providing true colors.
BG 36.32% and n°1 from every servers in the “farm your ennemy” % XD
JQ 30.46% and n°9
SoR 29.38% and n°13 (lol)

This would be twisting the data that is collected to what you want to perceive. The analytics do not show 100% of the fights that are going on out there, this would only prove that BG places priority on the middle cap points instead of objective holding.

Consider the following, BG on BG BL, primarily rolling 40-60 deep in the middle of the map at the cap points, SoR and JQ from what I have seen attempt to send smaller squads in, they get farmed. Each small team that gets farmed is another 5-10 stomps, this translates in to score. What the score will not show is when JQ or SoR counter blob or zerg the middle and clear the whole middle ruins out. It is this period that neither SoR or JQ has bloodlust to translate this in to score, hence the factual data presented as to “whom really does play for points” is not reliable. Again, this would go for whoever has a server playstyle of placing priority on middle caps as opposed to objectives.

Just take this outlook when you analyze the data that is presented, these are mechanics that should be clearly defined when posting such “factual” data.

Pretty correct. I was commanding BG BL last night and I was the only commander. Thus everyone centered around my tag. You guys had DA, SF,Pro. The 3 pronged made me have to constantly move fast across the map while still trying to maintain the orbs. I did try to break off splinter forces though for the center. Overall, I had a lot of fun fighting you guys. Very enjoyable night for me.

The one time. I tried to assault your south tower and you guys poured in and built arrow carts on the fly was pure win BTW. Very well played. GG

Jedbacca.6297:

Bla bla bla, my made up facts are better than your made up facts – Here’s something i made up to prove it

Fact: You get stomped, BG get points = you loose on the field, and you loose the match.

Cod on Cod.3694:

Jedbacca.6297:

Bla bla bla, my made up facts are better than your made up facts – Here’s something i made up to prove it

Fact: You get stomped, BG get points = you loose on the field, and you loose the match.

This video will depict our current situation when it comes to you and I. In this example I am Arian Foster as of to where you are that “other guy.”

http://youtu.be/v1DLne6Is2c

zhonnika.1784:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Jedbacca.6297:

Bla bla bla, my made up facts are better than your made up facts – Here’s something i made up to prove it

Fact: You get stomped, BG get points = you loose on the field, and you loose the match.

Fact: This guy doesn’t know how to spell lose

Fact: This is an international forum, so you cannot expect everyone to adhere to the same standards of language that may be common in your country. You have server mates who commit spelling and grammar mistakes too. Be as courteous to everyone as you are to them.

Fact: Jedsus wins by style vs. the guy I don’t know.
Funfact: I had too much beer to remember who I am

zhonnika.1784:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Jedbacca.6297:

Bla bla bla, my made up facts are better than your made up facts – Here’s something i made up to prove it

Fact: You get stomped, BG get points = you get loose on the field, and you get loose in the match.

Fact: This guy doesn’t know how to spell lose

Fact: This guy doesn’t get loose.

Wait.. I know the Dolphins, but what’s the other team?
You Americans should really rework that franchise system of your sports .

Jedbacca.6297:

Titan.3472:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I can’t tell, do people like the changes or not? Or does no one care one way or the other?

On the long run I can say that SoR will complain about the world point per kill XD but if they were what they always claim to be they would have a very high % AND IT DOESN’T SHOW that because they have been always making fake statesment that noone believed ever at least now we have game data providing true colors.
BG 36.32% and n°1 from every servers in the “farm your ennemy” % XD
JQ 30.46% and n°9
SoR 29.38% and n°13 (lol)

This would be twisting the data that is collected to what you want to perceive. The analytics do not show 100% of the fights that are going on out there, this would only prove that BG places priority on the middle cap points instead of objective holding.

Consider the following, BG on BG BL, primarily rolling 40-60 deep in the middle of the map at the cap points, SoR and JQ from what I have seen attempt to send smaller squads in, they get farmed. Each small team that gets farmed is another 5-10 stomps, this translates in to score. What the score will not show is when JQ or SoR counter blob or zerg the middle and clear the whole middle ruins out. It is this period that neither SoR or JQ has bloodlust to translate this in to score, hence the factual data presented as to “whom really does play for points” is not reliable. Again, this would go for whoever has a server playstyle of placing priority on middle caps as opposed to objectives.

Just take this outlook when you analyze the data that is presented, these are mechanics that should be clearly defined when posting such “factual” data.

Actually, the data is not skewed. While the above example is completely true, you are discounting BG being able to maintain that bloodlust. There are two sides to the equation. The points acquired from bloodlust is a by product of killing the opposing team AND maintaining that bloodlust. That is what makes the statistic accurate.

Fact: People of all servers need to stop respond to trolls from other servers. Let’s just focus on the good fights and enjoy what could be our last match together before the league!

lag lag lag lag…. lag everywhere gz Anet -.-

Actually, the data is not skewed. While the above example is completely true, you are discounting BG being able to maintain that bloodlust. There are two sides to the equation. The points acquired from bloodlust is a by product of killing the opposing team AND maintaining that bloodlust. That is what makes the statistic accurate.

You are not understanding what I had laid out. Yes, you guys do maintain bloodlust, but what is not being account for is the deaths that BG is getting while the JQ and SoR teams are not maintaining or placing focus on Bloodlust. These stomps are not translating in to the data that is being collected.

This is small and large scale combat between the servers. As I stated before, BG has placed priority in sending main team to center ruins in order to maintain this Bloodlust buff. While doing so, any stomps count toward their score. We noticed last night that BG did a pretty kitten good job at holding pretty much Bloodlust across 3 borderlands, as to SoR and JQ were not doing this. For your factual data, this translates in to less stomp points for JQ and SoR yet more structural holding based game play. As a compliment, you can state that BG is doing their best to try and get ahead of the Bloodlust curve and was a great example last night of maintaining that Bloodlust to get points for stomps while the other servers were not gaining points through their stomps.

Score Update!

Enjoy the morning/day/evening etc

EDIT:

And this lag is unbearable. What on earth did they do?!

Gwendolyr.3712:

Fact: People of all servers need to stop respond to trolls from other servers. Let’s just focus on the good fights and enjoy what could be our last match together before the league!

We do have good fights but we also enjoy the forum trolls, keeps us from boredom away from the game

Hang on. You guys can’t be serious. How in the world did this make you zerg harder??? This is like small fights heaven!

Wait, the lag is even worse tonight? I think I watch football before I go into wvw. The slight hope it’s getting better on late EU time.

Jedbacca.6297:

Actually, the data is not skewed. While the above example is completely true, you are discounting BG being able to maintain that bloodlust. There are two sides to the equation. The points acquired from bloodlust is a by product of killing the opposing team AND maintaining that bloodlust. That is what makes the statistic accurate.

This is small and large scale combat between the servers. As I stated before, BG has placed priority in sending main team to center ruins in order to maintain this Bloodlust buff. While doing so, any stomps count toward their score. We noticed last night that BG did a pretty kitten good job at holding pretty much Bloodlust across 3 borderlands, as to SoR and JQ were not doing this. For your factual data, this translates in to less stomp points for JQ and SoR yet more structural holding based game play. As a compliment, you can state that BG is doing their best to try and get ahead of the Bloodlust curve and was a great example last night of maintaining that Bloodlust to get points for stomps while the other servers were not gaining points through their stomps.

There’s certainly a margin of error for total body count that will remain unaccounted for, but you have to consider that the factors remain equal for all three servers. At any given time, all servers have equivalent access to bloodlust if they exert the effort to obtain it. The only controlling factor is the two other opponents. If the buff remains with server A, then it’s easy to conclude that server A is effectively controlling the nodes, which in itself means we beat the opposition present at those nodes. If server A’s score has a high percentage of non-PPT points, then it’s also safe to assume that they are making good use of the buff i.e killing in the open field. And contrary to what you say, our main forces are primarily still on PPT objectives. That we have had less holdings this week is actually a testament to how thin our population really is, especially with all the transfers happening.

TL:DR What some of our more enthusiastic servermates are refuting is that Blackgate merely relies on large numbers to knock down doors to gain large PPT that carries us to victory, a myth perpetuated by other zealous posters from other servers, but has dominance in smaller fights too, of which the bloodlust mechanic provides us at least a barometer.

This ‘statement’ is independent of JQ and SoR’s ability to kill on the field as well.

Glad to still see that these threads still have a large dose of nerd rage/trolling over a game from all servers involved. Stay classy o/

Shifty.4985:

Gwendolyr.3712:

Fact: People of all servers need to stop respond to trolls from other servers. Let’s just focus on the good fights and enjoy what could be our last match together before the league!

We do have good fights but we also enjoy the forum trolls, keeps us from boredom away from the game

See Shifty got it!

Kinda knew trolling the beloved Jed would stir up something, and I even dared to make a speling error

Think I need to get back in the matchup, so I actually know whats going on in the maps.

Jedbacca.6297:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Stealth.8150:

Brutus.5732:

KumaTazZ.8054:

Score not from tick.
SoR = 29%
JQ = 30%
BG = 34%

So BG is the worst server to capture towers and play for PPT.

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=currentscore&sort=hidden_points_percent&ad=desc

You are the best yak\sentry killers by far.

you guys give us no options. all you do is run into keep/tower and hide behind the ac’s

You have my sincerest apologies. We get so many bags from your server on a daily basis and it seems impossible to sell fast enough. But you’ll be happy to know we’re working to improve on that. Were starting donation funds to make sure our entire server is outfitted with full 20 slot bags and encouraging everyone to try and buy an endless salvage kit. We’ll make it and get to the point that we dont need a sell break from farming your zergs and can keep giving you guys the attention you so richly deserve. : )

I like this guy…

Hey merchants are great. We always have sell breaks after some intense blob farming.

2 advantages of having a merchant includes sharing the merchant with the enemy server and also re-farming the same spot when the blob reappears.

I have 8 20 bag slots and the loots are coming in faster than i can salvage them. Merchant is still your best answer.

So how does everyone feel about the new update (Middle)? Worth it or no?

Zikory.6871:

zhonnika.1784:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Jedbacca.6297:

Bla bla bla, my made up facts are better than your made up facts – Here’s something i made up to prove it

Fact: You get stomped, BG get points = you get loose on the field, and you get loose in the match.

Fact: This guy doesn’t know how to spell lose

Fact: This guy doesn’t get loose.

Fact: That’s not a guy!

FACT: Facts are Facts

Wotah.2975:

Zikory.6871:

zhonnika.1784:

Cod on Cod.3694:

Jedbacca.6297:

Bla bla bla, my made up facts are better than your made up facts – Here’s something i made up to prove it

Fact: You get stomped, BG get points = you get loose on the field, and you get loose in the match.

Fact: This guy doesn’t know how to spell lose

Fact: This guy doesn’t get loose.

Fact: That’s not a guy!

Mance.5640:

I have heard rumors that WARD has merged with TWL. Can anyone confirm this?

Ty.

Hello, I am still waiting for confirmation. Thank you.

Mance.5640:

Mance.5640:

I have heard rumors that WARD has merged with TWL. Can anyone confirm this?

Ty.

Hello, I am still waiting for confirmation. Thank you.

Does that make TWARD now TWARDL? And what happened to WARDACO?

Mance.5640:

Mance.5640:

I have heard rumors that WARD has merged with TWL. Can anyone confirm this?

Ty.

Hello, I am still waiting for confirmation. Thank you.

Could you imagine the devastation However, we have not merged, Ward is still Ward last I heard.