Guild Wars 2

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MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

Two things wrong with this paragraph.

Individual stability uptime doesnt matter AT ALL when commanding a zerg. Its a ZERG, everyone and their mother is a guardian running shouts.

Second, guardians have no mobility, either.

I guess their easy access to swiftness and leap on greatsword 3 don’t count…

MrFluffy.9307:

K U T M.4539:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

Two things wrong with this paragraph.

Individual stability uptime doesnt matter AT ALL when commanding a zerg. Its a ZERG, everyone and their mother is a guardian running shouts.

Second, guardians have no mobility, either.

I guess their easy access to swiftness and leap on greatsword 3 don’t count…

Swiftness is an easily applied boon, and this is in a zerg setting. So that point is null.

Assuming Staff + X shout healway build for zerging, they’re probably going to be running gs or hammer, so they MIGHT have access to one of the lowest distance “Leaps” in the game. If someone escapes death solely by using leap of faith, their opponent must have been missing a few fingers. Or brain cells.

Ynot.8397:

You didn’t have to take the portal from the mes that glitched in IOM… TY for that.

I can guarantee you, IoM talked it out a bit ago and we don’t do the mesmer gate glitch anymore. If we did, it’s possible it’s someone who wasn’t aware of that and for that, we apologize. Can’t speak for the rest of ET though, unfortunately.

bokunocarrie.7215:

Ynot.8397:

You didn’t have to take the portal from the mes that glitched in IOM… TY for that.

I can guarantee you, IoM talked it out a bit ago and we don’t do the mesmer gate glitch anymore. If we did, it’s possible it’s someone who wasn’t aware of that and for that, we apologize. Can’t speak for the rest of ET though, unfortunately.

It certainly happened but I’m glad you don’t do it anymore :p

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low and shows disgusting sportsmanship.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

Opc.4718:

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

It was flipped from the north, that’s where the “hole” was.

bokunocarrie.7215:

Opc.4718:

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

It was flipped from the north, that’s where the “hole” was.

We found your rams in inner, we found nothing on outer.

CornChips.5392:

bokunocarrie.7215:

Opc.4718:

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

It was flipped from the north, that’s where the “hole” was.

We found your rams in inner, we found nothing on outer.

Most likely the guards destroyed them. Even then, we must have one beast of a mesmer to be hiding in there for that long. Either way, it was an IoM thing and we don’t take shortcuts. Sorry if it just came out of the blue to you.

What cornchips said was what instantly raised my suspicion – no walls down, no rams at gates. But I guess it’s entirely possible the guards had destroyed the rams by the time I checked, in which case I’m just ranting because I’m mad.

Opc.4718:

What cornchips said was what instantly raised my suspicion – no walls down, no rams at gates. But I guess it’s entirely possible the guards had destroyed the rams by the time I checked, in which case I’m just ranting because I’m mad.

No, it’s cool! We can understand that that stuff happens. If the situation would’ve been reversed, we would’ve been confused as hell. Just happy we could clear that up!

Duels happening right now at AR WM

I’m getting pretty tired of these ET mesmers trying to get ressed through gates, in an hour window I saw two intentionally try to die as close to a gate as they could. Overwhelmingly lame.

(didn’t screen cap the first one because I pulled them away before they died)

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

also plz tell me how necro’s can heal better then guards with AH or warriors with healing signet?

the problem is that tankiness isn’t the only trait a commander needs it also needs:

mobility (this is not 25% movement bonus this refers to leaps and shadowsteps…)
self sustain (lots of heals)
and group support for those pushes in choke holds
and some light CC is good too

^ find a class that can do that better then a guardian or warrior and then you’ll have an argument.

certain classes can do things better then others and that’s just something you have to accept if you wanna get better at the game…you gotta learn to play your role according to your class.

Is that a joke? Necro’s spectral walk gives like 40seconds of swiftness. Also ds #2 skill teleports the necro and so does destruction of flesh worm. Plenty of mobility.

DevilPhaze.6531:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

also plz tell me how necro’s can heal better then guards with AH or warriors with healing signet?

the problem is that tankiness isn’t the only trait a commander needs it also needs:

mobility (this is not 25% movement bonus this refers to leaps and shadowsteps…)
self sustain (lots of heals)
and group support for those pushes in choke holds
and some light CC is good too

^ find a class that can do that better then a guardian or warrior and then you’ll have an argument.

certain classes can do things better then others and that’s just something you have to accept if you wanna get better at the game…you gotta learn to play your role according to your class.

Is that a joke? Necro’s spectral walk gives like 40seconds of swiftness. Also ds #2 skill teleports the necro and so does destruction of flesh worm. Plenty of mobility.

I dare you to go on the necro forums and claim a necro is better at tanking head first into a pit of AoE and CC then a guardian is…they’ll do a much better job then me explaining why you’re wrong.

Also ds #2 skill is unreliable, only ports you if it lands. And who in their right mind runs flesh worm? Same with spectral walk…

show me a build for necro’s that has 3.5k armor, 1k healing power, mobility, lots of group support, CC, and group cond cleanse, and decent damage output.

MrFluffy.9307:

DevilPhaze.6531:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

also plz tell me how necro’s can heal better then guards with AH or warriors with healing signet?

the problem is that tankiness isn’t the only trait a commander needs it also needs:

mobility (this is not 25% movement bonus this refers to leaps and shadowsteps…)
self sustain (lots of heals)
and group support for those pushes in choke holds
and some light CC is good too

^ find a class that can do that better then a guardian or warrior and then you’ll have an argument.

certain classes can do things better then others and that’s just something you have to accept if you wanna get better at the game…you gotta learn to play your role according to your class.

Is that a joke? Necro’s spectral walk gives like 40seconds of swiftness. Also ds #2 skill teleports the necro and so does destruction of flesh worm. Plenty of mobility.

I dare you to go on the necro forums and claim a necro is better at tanking head first into a pit of AoE and CC then a guardian is…they’ll do a much better job then me explaining why you’re wrong.

Also ds #2 skill is unreliable, only ports you if it lands. And who in their right mind runs flesh worm? Same with spectral walk…

show me a build for necro’s that has 3.5k armor, 1k healing power, mobility, lots of group support, CC, and group cond cleanse, and decent damage output.

Someone’s mad. I never said they were tankier or could take more damage but you’re claiming they have 0 mobility and you are dead wrong. Plenty of necros run spectral walk. Learn your classes mate.

DevilPhaze.6531:

MrFluffy.9307:

DevilPhaze.6531:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

also plz tell me how necro’s can heal better then guards with AH or warriors with healing signet?

the problem is that tankiness isn’t the only trait a commander needs it also needs:

mobility (this is not 25% movement bonus this refers to leaps and shadowsteps…)
self sustain (lots of heals)
and group support for those pushes in choke holds
and some light CC is good too

^ find a class that can do that better then a guardian or warrior and then you’ll have an argument.

certain classes can do things better then others and that’s just something you have to accept if you wanna get better at the game…you gotta learn to play your role according to your class.

Is that a joke? Necro’s spectral walk gives like 40seconds of swiftness. Also ds #2 skill teleports the necro and so does destruction of flesh worm. Plenty of mobility.

I dare you to go on the necro forums and claim a necro is better at tanking head first into a pit of AoE and CC then a guardian is…they’ll do a much better job then me explaining why you’re wrong.

Also ds #2 skill is unreliable, only ports you if it lands. And who in their right mind runs flesh worm? Same with spectral walk…

show me a build for necro’s that has 3.5k armor, 1k healing power, mobility, lots of group support, CC, and group cond cleanse, and decent damage output.

Someone’s mad. I never said they were tankier or could take more damage but you’re claiming they have 0 mobility and you are dead wrong. Plenty of necros run spectral walk. Learn your classes mate.

my mistake, I grouped up all the claims everyone on this thread has made about necro’s being better for commanding then guardians and summarized them in that last response.

MrFluffy.9307:

DevilPhaze.6531:

MrFluffy.9307:

DevilPhaze.6531:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

clint.5681:

Dovgan.8605:

MrFluffy.9307:

Dovgan.8605:

pedrst.3127:

@Anvil Rock zerg in EB, don’t take a squishy thief as your commander, else our 4 man will drop him infront of your whole zerg :P

Why would anyone feel the need to post this?

Uh .. congrats on killing someone!

Commanders, regardless of class, are a target to any organized group for obvious reasons, and any decent 4 man should be able to drop one with a target assist regardless of what class he/she plays. It’s an expected hazard of choosing to tag up.

if it’s an expected hazard then why handicap yourself by playing one of the squishiest classes? Commanders should either be warrior or guardian…

An interesting take on what a commander should be. You do realize built/played correctly that most classes can be just as solid/tanky as a guardian or warrior, right? I have also seen both the before mentioned classes melt under focus fire just as fast as a thief. Although an interesting perspective as to what class a commander “should” be. Heck, a heavily bunkered necro is a far tankier choice than either guardian or warrior due to a huge base health pool and DS. You also need to take into account commanding style into whichever class you choose for commanding. Any player, regardless of the class they play, can be effective as a commander. Coming to the forums declaring that only 2 classes should command is absurd and uneducated.

Necrosis don’t have access to high armor or protection or stability.

Actually wrong on all 3 counts…
Spectral Wall = Protection
Spectral Armor = Protection
Lich Form = Stability
Plague = Stability

Reasonably high armor and one of the best condition removal sets in the game.
Traited Stability on DS as well, and two massive health bars.

But like I said, uneducated about different classes.

I don’t think stability on a 3 minute cooldown can be counted as reliable and no good necro build uses that stability in DS trait…I also don’t think a class with 0 mobility should be commanding.

also plz tell me how necro’s can heal better then guards with AH or warriors with healing signet?

the problem is that tankiness isn’t the only trait a commander needs it also needs:

mobility (this is not 25% movement bonus this refers to leaps and shadowsteps…)
self sustain (lots of heals)
and group support for those pushes in choke holds
and some light CC is good too

^ find a class that can do that better then a guardian or warrior and then you’ll have an argument.

certain classes can do things better then others and that’s just something you have to accept if you wanna get better at the game…you gotta learn to play your role according to your class.

Is that a joke? Necro’s spectral walk gives like 40seconds of swiftness. Also ds #2 skill teleports the necro and so does destruction of flesh worm. Plenty of mobility.

I dare you to go on the necro forums and claim a necro is better at tanking head first into a pit of AoE and CC then a guardian is…they’ll do a much better job then me explaining why you’re wrong.

Also ds #2 skill is unreliable, only ports you if it lands. And who in their right mind runs flesh worm? Same with spectral walk…

show me a build for necro’s that has 3.5k armor, 1k healing power, mobility, lots of group support, CC, and group cond cleanse, and decent damage output.

Someone’s mad. I never said they were tankier or could take more damage but you’re claiming they have 0 mobility and you are dead wrong. Plenty of necros run spectral walk. Learn your classes mate.

my mistake, I grouped up all the claims everyone on this thread has made about necro’s being better for commanding then guardians and summarized them in that last response.

It’s cool and Yeah I wasn’t arguing that. I run a guardian for group play

I’d like to thank Lady Illogical from FC for the SM cap last night. Even though we’re up against each other, its cool to see some commanders have some decency. Thanks again and it was a lot of fun from our end!

Ynot.8397:

You didn’t have to take the portal from the mes that glitched in IOM… TY for that.

You should really sweep cliffside. Why is it, anytime we get a legit mesmer hidden (OR we ninja a keep) we get called for BS and that we cheated. In your pictures i saw no mesmer at the gate, i saw one IoM tag and you didnt even show the entire zerg. Stop blaming bugs in the game for your mistakes…

Shero.3106:

Ynot.8397:

You didn’t have to take the portal from the mes that glitched in IOM… TY for that.

You should really sweep cliffside. Why is it, anytime we get a legit mesmer hidden (OR we ninja a keep) we get called for BS and that we cheated. In your pictures i saw no mesmer at the gate, i saw one IoM tag and you didnt even show the entire zerg. Stop blaming bugs in the game for your mistakes…

This screenshot is from Lake Tower…

But you’re right, there is only 1 IoM tag on the screenshots, and its a “beast” (so it cannot be a mesmer).

Jeknar.6184:

Shero.3106:

Ynot.8397:

You didn’t have to take the portal from the mes that glitched in IOM… TY for that.

You should really sweep cliffside. Why is it, anytime we get a legit mesmer hidden (OR we ninja a keep) we get called for BS and that we cheated. In your pictures i saw no mesmer at the gate, i saw one IoM tag and you didnt even show the entire zerg. Stop blaming bugs in the game for your mistakes…

This screenshot is from Lake Tower…

But you’re right, there is only 1 IoM tag on the screenshots, and its a “beast” (so it cannot be a mesmer).

Well it was an Iom group you just couldn’t really see them. I talked to a few right after it happened saying there was a mes portal inside. I didn’t take the picture of the mesmer that glitched in because I was setting up siege to defend the tower and I didn’t want the 20 people who followed the port to stomp my face. Good call though…

LOL @ your cliffside comment btw. Why is it that every time I post a screenshot they try to tell me I am wrong and they don’t even look at where the picture was taken?

<3 FC (especially Yarr) for the fun duels last night.

AR, please send some people behind AR windmill for duels. It’s been a very regular event (including reset!)

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<3 FC (especially Yarr) for the fun duels last night.

AR, please send some people behind AR windmill for duels. It’s been a very regular event (including reset!)

It’s happening on the same time as the usual fight night?

I find it funny it that it takes more than 10 AR to take north camp from one guy.

Can’t do it with one, can’t do it with three, couldn’t do it with 5, better bring everybody!

bokunocarrie.7215:

CornChips.5392:

bokunocarrie.7215:

Opc.4718:

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

It was flipped from the north, that’s where the “hole” was.

We found your rams in inner, we found nothing on outer.

Most likely the guards destroyed them. Even then, we must have one beast of a mesmer to be hiding in there for that long. Either way, it was an IoM thing and we don’t take shortcuts. Sorry if it just came out of the blue to you.

Someone from ET does, we had more deliberate dying at water gate action at Bay yesterday. This time it was the thief who purposely died at the gate and the Mesmer whose corpse stayed nearby. I didn’t catch or record the guild since this is not a reportable offense or cheat, it’s just tacky.

Dear [Yarr] Condi warrior I just fought at Lake tower.

You’re pretty darned good! A small group of us were just chatting about the (possible) upcoming hammer warrior nerfs and we were theorycrafting a condi build. Then you rolled in and showed me how to do it right.

If you’d like to share some groovy class build info, please hit me up! I’d love to have your insight.

This is a match-up thread, not best build’s/professions for commanding thread. Please move on.

Otherwise…awesome match-up. Not sure what the deal was with ET bringing Omega’s out of spawn continuously while our group was just outside. Trolls destroying someone else’s Omegas?
Anywho, enjoying the race for second ET =D. Keep us on our toes.

Dsybok.1405:

bokunocarrie.7215:

CornChips.5392:

bokunocarrie.7215:

Opc.4718:

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

It was flipped from the north, that’s where the “hole” was.

We found your rams in inner, we found nothing on outer.

Most likely the guards destroyed them. Even then, we must have one beast of a mesmer to be hiding in there for that long. Either way, it was an IoM thing and we don’t take shortcuts. Sorry if it just came out of the blue to you.

Someone from ET does, we had more deliberate dying at water gate action at Bay yesterday. This time it was the thief who purposely died at the gate and the Mesmer whose corpse stayed nearby. I didn’t catch or record the guild since this is not a reportable offense or cheat, it’s just tacky.

Again, IoM does not do cheap mesmer tricks. If I have to keep repeating that, I will but it gets tiresome. I was in on the group that took Bay and there was no mesmer. Aside from that, that supposed mesmer would have needed to be in the keep all day. I don’t know anyone with the time and patience to do that, especially assuming that your server would have been running in and out of there during the day. Your Bay was taken fairly. I’m sorry you can’t seem to accept that but it was. We don’t cheat – plain and simple.

Look we’ve said it before and hopefully for the last time IOM will no longer use the Mesmer revive trick anymore. Wether anyone else from Eredon Terrace dose it is not our say, we act on our own code of honor where as others may disagree and use the glitch. So from this point on if you lose anything from IOM know that it was your fault for we took it fairly and maybe you guys should pay more attention. Till next time

I mean that is apart of the game, iv seen your servers do this mesmer trick plenty of times going dead at a gate or watergate so that your mesmer can be revived and then port people in from the other side. If your going to cry we wont do it anymore but at no times have we ever glitched or hacked to get into a tower or keep that means you need to sweep better and watch for mesmers at gates or watergate, this glitch has been around since the beginning Anet has not fixed it and it has been used by multi servers and multi guilds, so I would thank you if you’d stop calling my guild out on some BS glitch that has been around since the start take it up with Anet and the fellow guilds on your own servers!

Shademehr.1397:

Dear [Yarr] Condi warrior I just fought at Lake tower.

You’re pretty darned good! A small group of us were just chatting about the (possible) upcoming hammer warrior nerfs and we were theorycrafting a condi build. Then you rolled in and showed me how to do it right.

If you’d like to share some groovy class build info, please hit me up! I’d love to have your insight.

Haha thank you! I’m not an expert at all in warrior condi builds but I have no problem talking about them since it’s more my play style

I have to give ET credit for their siege usage. You guys have all the right siege in all the right places to defend your stuff. You make it incredibly difficult if we can’t keep things paper. Nobody is going to take your garrison this week unless it’s while you are asleep.

Killuminati.6945:

This is a match-up thread, not best build’s/professions for commanding thread. Please move on.

Otherwise…awesome match-up. Not sure what the deal was with ET bringing Omega’s out of spawn continuously while our group was just outside. Trolls destroying someone else’s Omegas?
Anywho, enjoying the race for second ET =D. Keep us on our toes.

Was that on Eternal Battleground? We’re seeing our golems go ‘poof’ in there these days…

Once again duels happening at AR WM right now, everyone welcome

This post is not bashing the whole server BUT how CLASSY of this ET mesmer untagged undoubtedly cause he knew what he was doing. Trying to die near underwater gate bay in ET BL so he could get ressed from outside!!! GG keep it classy mesmer……

bokunocarrie.7215:

CornChips.5392:

bokunocarrie.7215:

Opc.4718:

You know, I always thought ET were classy opponents, but I guess I need to revise my opinion a bit. Just now, AR lost a fully upgraded bay, because of ET exploiters.

The keep had no holes in the walls since being fortified, and unless you had a mesmer inside hiding for a day, there was no legit way to get in. We had defenders all across the outer wall up to the minute it got flipped.

I hope the action was just from a couple of bad apples, and does not reflect on the attitude of the entire server. Resorting to exploits to try and win is just low.

I might be entirely mistaken of course, and you were legitimately ninja, in which case feel free to correct me and explain how you managed to flip t3 bay without taking down any of the outer walls.

It was flipped from the north, that’s where the “hole” was.

We found your rams in inner, we found nothing on outer.

Most likely the guards destroyed them. Even then, we must have one beast of a mesmer to be hiding in there for that long. Either way, it was an IoM thing and we don’t take shortcuts. Sorry if it just came out of the blue to you.

Well, if you got in legitimately then well done, credit where credit’s due.

Navnn.1980:

This post is not bashing the whole server BUT how CLASSY of this ET mesmer untagged undoubtedly cause he knew what he was doing. Trying to die near underwater gate bay in ET BL so he could get ressed from outside!!! GG keep it classy mesmer……

WHO CARES!!!!!!!! I’ve seen AR and Ferg do the same thing. I’ve seen GoM, Yak, etc. do this were all frustrated about this glitch, but pointing out Mesmer from ET or any server doesn’t help. If you want to help make a separate post to arena net in the glitch forums. I know your not bashing our server in particular but this stuff is just annoying.

Thank you to the 30 or so ET zerg that kept coming back to try and take bay in ET BL!!! Good fights but glad you realized you weren’t beating us after 4 wipes! Respect for not running like most servers do!

Navnn.1980:

This post is not bashing the whole server BUT how CLASSY of this ET mesmer untagged undoubtedly cause he knew what he was doing. Trying to die near underwater gate bay in ET BL so he could get ressed from outside!!! GG keep it classy mesmer……

Looking on the character, i think I know this mesmer… And if it’s who I think it is, he really doesn’t have a tag (although he play a lot).

Solstice.1097:

I have to give ET credit for their siege usage. You guys have all the right siege in all the right places to defend your stuff. You make it incredibly difficult if we can’t keep things paper. Nobody is going to take your garrison this week unless it’s while you are asleep.

Was this the time when you guys had a couple golems running around in the capping circle after the lord was down?

We also made both AR and FC run for their money in Bay couple minutes before. You guys were hungry for our 5 Oz man

Solstice.1097:

I have to give ET credit for their siege usage. You guys have all the right siege in all the right places to defend your stuff. You make it incredibly difficult if we can’t keep things paper. Nobody is going to take your garrison this week unless it’s while you are asleep.

It flipped 30mins ago… Siege is useless if there is no people to man it.

We had a lot of siege at bravost tower yesterday through the whole day… We kept FC and AR out of it even while it was paper (The first attack on Bravost after I sieged it up happened while we had only decoy oil upgraded). And we kept it for the course of 11 hours (when i finally logged off). Right now bravost is a paper green tower… Just as everything else on our EB corner.

Speaking of the battle for bravost: [yarr] GTFO umberglade willya?

It just seems an overall huge disparity both in population and in coverage between ET and FC/AR. But its all good because we can run our 5 man group without having an ally zerg jumping in the fight… and we can try lead our pugs at times too, like when we ninja’d SM yesterday and then farmed FC zerg for 30 minutes straight and even got them back to their keep.. then we moved on to our borderlands since another commander asked for help and lost everything since there was nobody to defend.

I don’t think population is the issue (at least against AR). ET has the bad habit of putting everyone in the same place, leaving everything else wide open… EB is the major example of that: We’re constantly with outmanned buff (People are usually on ETBL), we rarely get help there (because someone is attacking the southern camp of our borderland so ETBL can’t spare troops), and everytime we get a commander on EB that’s not me, it simply walk away back to ETBL after flipping a few paper towers (sometimes even without saying to people on map chat).

The situation we constantly face is very frustrating sometimes…

pedrst.3127:

Solstice.1097:

I have to give ET credit for their siege usage. You guys have all the right siege in all the right places to defend your stuff. You make it incredibly difficult if we can’t keep things paper. Nobody is going to take your garrison this week unless it’s while you are asleep.

Was this the time when you guys had a couple golems running around in the capping circle after the lord was down?

We also made both AR and FC run for their money in Bay couple minutes before. You guys were hungry for our 5 Oz man

We tried to keep you busy in Bay while our other group golem rushed your garrison. We were hoping AR would help us keep you at Bay but they must have left?? because then you pushed us out with 30+ and when we regrouped in Garrison lord’s room nobody was tapping the gate so I’m pretty sure your WP was open the 2nd half of the fight which led to our eventual wipe.

I recalled dropping rams at south bay gate and instantly having them destroyed by a treb or mortar from inside. Then I dropped a treb in vale and it was instantly destroyed by a treb – the treb didn’t even miss once. And you had a treb on the south hill at Garrison that can hit water gate which I’ve never seen before, but effective for sure. And inner NE garri had ballistas and catapults and the works.

Just so much siege and people who know how to use it :-/

Solstice.1097:

pedrst.3127:

Solstice.1097:

I have to give ET credit for their siege usage. You guys have all the right siege in all the right places to defend your stuff. You make it incredibly difficult if we can’t keep things paper. Nobody is going to take your garrison this week unless it’s while you are asleep.

Was this the time when you guys had a couple golems running around in the capping circle after the lord was down?

We also made both AR and FC run for their money in Bay couple minutes before. You guys were hungry for our 5 Oz man

We tried to keep you busy in Bay while our other group golem rushed your garrison. We were hoping AR would help us keep you at Bay but they must have left?? because then you pushed us out with 30+ and when we regrouped in Garrison lord’s room nobody was tapping the gate so I’m pretty sure your WP was open the 2nd half of the fight which led to our eventual wipe.

I recalled dropping rams at south bay gate and instantly having them destroyed by a treb or mortar from inside. Then I dropped a treb in vale and it was instantly destroyed by a treb – the treb didn’t even miss once. And you had a treb on the south hill at Garrison that can hit water gate which I’ve never seen before, but effective for sure. And inner NE garri had ballistas and catapults and the works.

Just so much siege and people who know how to use it :-/

That is true actually, before most of us left Bay to defend Garrison we wiped some AR one last time but i was nearly sure they’d comeback and then take Bay undefended but they didn’t not sure why.

Jeknar.6184:

I don’t think population is the issue (at least against AR). ET has the bad habit of putting everyone in the same place, leaving everything else wide open… EB is the major example of that: We’re constantly with outmanned buff (People are usually on ETBL), we rarely get help there (because someone is attacking the southern camp of our borderland so ETBL can’t spare troops), and everytime we get a commander on EB that’s not me, it simply walk away back to ETBL after flipping a few paper towers (sometimes even without saying to people on map chat).

The situation we constantly face is very frustrating sometimes…

Jek, we’ve been defending some REALLY crazy stuff in our BL all week so it’s really more than just watching the “south camp” as you’ve described. There have been many times were AR was hitting something with their zerg while Ferg has simultaneously been hitting something else with their zerg. Sometimes, they even hit the same thing! It’s intense and honestly it takes everyone we can muster.

With that being said, you’re doing an excellent job in EB and I commend you for holding it down as well as you have. Kudos to your, sir.

Additionally, I’d like to thank Master Junior. I believe he also spends a ton of time in EB and has, just recently I think, been spending some time in the ET BL, and done really well.

Both of you guys catch a lot of grief by not being on TeamSpeak (you’ve just recently started spending more time on there though) but your contributions to our server should not go unnoticed. Great job to both of you guys. I sincerly appreciate your efforts.

Shademehr.1397:

Jek, we’ve been defending some REALLY crazy stuff in our BL all week so it’s really more than just watching the “south camp” as you’ve described. There have been many times were AR was hitting something with their zerg while Ferg has simultaneously been hitting something else with their zerg. Sometimes, they even hit the same thing! It’s intense and honestly it takes everyone we can muster.

With that being said, you’re doing an excellent job in EB and I commend you for holding it down as well as you have. Kudos to your, sir.

Additionally, I’d like to thank Master Junior. I believe he also spends a ton of time in EB and has, just recently I think, been spending some time in the ET BL, and done really well.

Both of you guys catch a lot of grief by not being on TeamSpeak (you’ve just recently started spending more time on there though) but your contributions to our server should not go unnoticed. Great job to both of you guys. I sincerly appreciate your efforts.

I’m not speaking of this week specifically, this situation been hitting us ever since i came back in august. And now even worse when the leagues started.

The ‘southern camp watching’ part is a jab on the many times I’ve asked for help to protect our fully upgraded overlook (over the last weeks) and I’ve received responses saying that they were fighting over the southern towers or that they were trying to protect our paper hills that was flipped before, or simply Home Borderland is more important than EB (this one infuriates me).

And because of some ‘issues’, unfortunely I won’t be leading EB anymore (There is info about that on our forum). Although I might still be around.

Jeknar.6184:

Killuminati.6945:

This is a match-up thread, not best build’s/professions for commanding thread. Please move on.

Otherwise…awesome match-up. Not sure what the deal was with ET bringing Omega’s out of spawn continuously while our group was just outside. Trolls destroying someone else’s Omegas?
Anywho, enjoying the race for second ET =D. Keep us on our toes.

Was that on Eternal Battleground? We’re seeing our golems go ‘poof’ in there these days…

It was on AR BL…right at the exit of ET spawn. Originally we were at SE tower. We seen orange swords at SW tower so we went straight there instead. On our way we caught 3 omegas prancing around with some strays escorting them to who knows where. After killing those we continued on to SW tower and found two more omegas exiting ET spawn while a few ET attacked the SW tower gate. Killed those two omegas as well. THEN two MORE omegas came rolling out of the spawn and we downed them just before making it within range of legendaries.
Cant think of any reasons other than trolling or complete ignorance by a new player too excited to get in a golem lol.

FC, how many golems did you just lose on that golem rush at our keep in EB? Didn’t even get through outer, either.

Gotta say that last FC golem rush before patch was fun to blast apart…just sat on a mortar and let ’em have it