Guild Wars 2

Had fun playing with piken inside their EBG keep just now, Too many came up to the vista at the end and you got me

A lot of us at Piken were so frustrated that when we finally broke through inner Stonemist yesterday, we ran straight up the stairs to take out the arrowcarts :-)

hello im from GH and i didnt know about duel spot east (or west?) of citadel. this is not common practice in our tier, sorry if we screw it up for you. we used to have duels only in windmill. i will try to spread the word on our forum. what place is it exactly that is reserved for duels?

it is a little with delay – video weekend
reset wvw

I’d like to thank the GH team taking a supply camp for not stamping on me as I chased a RS ranger straight through them … sadly she reached her arrowcarts before I could catch her, but the chase was fun.

“Noooo a fair fight, nooooo”

MandJ.8965:

And a Player, which got attacked by 8 Players, not run is silly.

I rarely decline the opportunity of a fine 1v8 suicide.

There are also sometimes very sane reasons for doing so, like:

• making a cap take ~5 seconds longer, which may make the difference
• tagging the neutral mercs they are fighting, so that you may actually win the dredge, frogs, etc when they kill them for you
• taking out that treb, ac, cata, etc. which might have been your actual target
• knowing that your zerg is just coming in while your opponents don’t, and steal them some seconds from their precious “running away budget”
• knowing that they will catch you anyway, so why not try to have some fun downing at least one guy?
• and, of course, finding out how many of them are actually running away in panic (at least for a second) when they see a single engi charging in, flamethrower blazing. You will be surprised if you try out!

~MRA

Elvirais.5472:

A lot of us at Piken were so frustrated that when we finally broke through inner Stonemist yesterday, we ran straight up the stairs to take out the arrowcarts :-)

Yeah, we did make some pretty hefty mistakes yesterday evening which allowed you to do so, like not dealing properly with Quentin when we still had a formidable map control (while you were playing a patient and steady treb offensive), not protecting our supply routes adequately, and allowing the Gunnies to sneak up on us (while we were fighting you) by breaking the northern wall of SM. Actually, I personally was blind enough trebbing Durios for minutes while not noticing that GH rushed in “left of my screen”.

So, well played, PS and GH, you fully deserved your success.

~MRA

I played for about an hour and a half last night on our BL. It was nice squaring off against the various Pikeys. Some nice tactics here and there. I was just running ungrouped. Tbh I’d only intended to log on to say hi but ended up staying a bit longer because the fights with Piken on our BL were good fun.

Outside Garrison, I felt a bit sorry for VII when our guys got reinforced and you got steamrolled but because I’m shallow the lootbags made me feel better almost immediately. That warm glow lasted about 2 minutes because I was one of the small team that went to Water to get the camp and we got completely trashed by you guys. Bravely, I made it out alive, leaving Cheeky Chap’s corpse to feed your team.

Never leave a man behind? Lol

(It was nice revenge on Cheeky actually for all the times I’ve been getting steamrolled and he’s a dot on the horizon cackling like a mad thing )

Bumped into GoW just north of quarry when I was on my way to do the JP. Fortunately, I bumped into you guys the same time a Praxium guild group did too. We won that round but I saw from the map there were crossed swords there for some time afterwards. I’m guessing you guys were having at it for a while later too

Logged off about 9pm as we were prepping to retake Hills.

Cheers to Piken for fun fights this week. The fights themselves, win or lose, against you guys are very enjoyable.

Thanks [FURY] for GvG.

I think we (GH) learned a lot during this week both from Piken and Riverside and i want to thank both those servers.
Riverside is hands down the best defensive server we have ever faced and i mean it as a compliment:)
Piken well we allready knew the quality and skill of the Piken guilds and they certainly live up to their reputation.

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Outside Garrison, I felt a bit sorry for VII when our guys got reinforced and you got steamrolled.

Its the penalty for playing guild only and we gladly pay it to maintain our non-zerg integrity.

We enjoyed last night a lot, especially the moments where it felt like the whole GH zone was rushing us, really got the adrenaline going.

We were slightly over-confident at NW tower, decided not to cap and see how long we could hold off the GH force. Big mistake, so many lootbags left behind when we were eventually routed.

Any other guild from RS or GH is up for GvG on Wednesday evening time?
20vs20/25vs25.
Catch me in-game to confirm.
FURY thanks for awesome fights, it seems like you have a lot of experience in this kind of game!

Turx.6987:

Fast Asleep.8475:

I wanted to see all our fights there as i was commanding the first time yesterday and i hoped be able to evaluate my movement but it seems like half of our fights were cut out…

Btw i have great fun this week. Others can tell whatever they want but imo this is million times better then playing in tier 7

Obviously we’re not going to release videos of us getting wiped, that completely defeats the purpose of shameless self promotion! :P

We occasionally stream when we remember and/or have someone with a machine capable of such a feat – did a little last night, so some of what you’re looking for may be viewable here:

http://www.twitch.tv/hob_eu/videos?kind=past_broadcasts

Should be a couple of hours footage there, victories and defeats and everything in between.

Oh, thx a lot for that
Gonna look through it at some point

MRA.4758:

• and, of course, finding out how many of them are actually running away in panic (at least for a second) when they see a single engi charging in, flamethrower blazing. You will be surprised if you try out!

I was indeed surprised when I tried that last night, though I recommend giving it a go whilst standing amid the broken ruins of a keep’s gates … I swear I got a full 3 or 4 seconds before the attacking force charged through the flames and turned me into a decorative paving slab.

Fun times.

Genotix.6804:

Much respect to the PS guys that are fighting tonight at our borders. Some nice small scale battles, most of the PS guys were from SFRJ guild if i remember correct. Good job and /bow

Yea some good fights last night, and all credit goes to our commander Surovi.
Cya tonight at same time in same border

/salute

Elvirais.5472:

A lot of us at Piken were so frustrated that when we finally broke through inner Stonemist yesterday, we ran straight up the stairs to take out the arrowcarts :-)

Lol, I wondered why you guys did that instead of whiping the few of us left in the lordroom. If I had seen this coming my guard probably would have left the arrowcart on the stairs he was sitting behind so bravely.

We didn´t have a commander anymore on EB by that time btw., he was fed up that all the pugs kept defending Stonemist and only a few followed him, so he went to homelands (not that he could have held it much longer at this point, even if he had wanted).

Last time we fought Piken (together with Baruch) we were soon behind in points and more often had outmanned buff than queues on EB even at primetime – seems to be different this week.

Seemed also like a good occasion to bring my low-level guard to WvW this weekend and paid off so far, made 10 lvl (being lvl 19 already!) and 6 and a half WvW-ranks so far.

And no, I won´t give you a good open field fight soon with my guard, when I see our lines breaking and my utilities on CD I probably will rather turn and run – though I feel now almost sorry for all your Piken-tears.

Finally kudos to Gunnars for bearing what Anet stumbles accross in their pocket.

Riverside WvW Player Decision Algorithm

01 Move with zerg
02 Can you build an arrowcart;
—————if Yes GoTo 03;
—————if No GoTo 01
03 Build Arrowcart
04 Use Arrowcart

xiv.7136:

Riverside WvW Player Decision Algorithm

01 Move with zerg
02 Can you build an arrowcart;
—————if Yes GoTo 03;
—————if No GoTo 01
03 Build Arrowcart
04 Use Arrowcart

To be more funny, you should have put the whole piece of code into a loop.

~MRA

streaming our raid live right now @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qlLpXS3iY

we also have a gvg against FURY on thursday

A good day today, we held our own, lost everything, got it back; and just before I logged out this afternoon we had re-taken Hills. But good gracious almighty, those lunchtime zergs had us on the run in Gunnars!
Now you will have to excuse me for pointing out how shameful the one zerg behaved while we at Gunnars were trying to take Longview.
Picture this: about 10 players with Seigeraiser retaking one of the towers. Along comes, 30?, 40?, Riversiders. They stop to watch/assess whether they can take us.
So I suggested they stop: leave us be, or come 1v1. I was soooo pleased when a few of the Riverside players started and nobody else moved. Even began a 1v1 with someone. (This sounds really good so far).
Until he was losing. Then 1v1 turned into steamroller v the few we were, and then they walked into the keep we had so nicely opened the door of;-)
Now:
It is funny (we few did laugh a little about how many it took to down us, and the fact that they still dropped a few loot bags). It is expected: that the zerg will roll over smaller groups, to some extent. BUT. This has seriously lowered my respect and opinion of the Riverside server. I now believe that only if they have no choice will they engage in equal battle. I do have a screenshot taken after the onslaught, that shows how many Riversiders were there, but not posting it, cos I cannot be bothered to inflate their little egos by putting pictures of them here.
Furthermore before anyone starts flaming me. I am not crying about this, or complaining about being face-rolled. My issue is simple: What a dishonourable way to behave after one of your team has engaged single combat.

Sounds like you got played. Why waste rams when the enemy can open the gate for you?

Jeez, I’m having so hard time trying to distinguish GH as Gunnar’s Hold from [GH] as Golden Horde in this thread… What a mess…

Can I ask everyone to always enclose my guild name in square brackets or use full name when you mention it, please? Thank you, I’d appreciate that.

P.S. Too bad I’m exploring Crete instead of Kryta atm when my guildmates seem to finally start to come out of slack and run actual WvW raids.

Have fun everyone!

Thats hardly a blob lol.

thx for your TS adress Schitzzel :P
i would never use it, but others might think different ^^

fab.3298:

Sounds like you got played. Why waste rams when the enemy can open the gate for you?

I am not bothered about ‘being played’. That is irrelevant. I can see the reasons why they did what they did and even understand them. I was remarking on the lack of honour displayed. It is enough that we are out-manned, out-numbered and pretty much fighting a rearguard action all week.
I am so proud to be a member of Gunnars Hold in WvW at the moment. I would be ashamed if I had been involved in the end of that situation and from Riverside.

Schtizzel.5497:

Piken guys don’t blob… never ever

Did you bother to make an actual count on 2nd and 3rd screenshots? Red is always greatly outnumbers green/orange when it comes to human perception, that’s true.

P.S. And why did you remove your post? Acknowledging your mistakes is a virtue and could positively impact your credibility, if you didn’t know. Escaping conversation with post deletion however never does.

“Pikens never build arrowcarts in open field and never blob” HAHAHA

I must say Germans from RS are cowards.
I always look for fair 1v40 battle and their die Gruppe always run away my brave Asura.

I did not make my comments as a name calling thing and do not like to see those type of responses. I have, over the weekend and since, had run-ins and battles with some good groups from Riverside and Piken. I was addressing a specific instance where I think a group from one server acted badly. It is my opinion that this fell far short of the standard of play I witnessed before.
Edit: There will be no further comment from me on this.

flowjob.7934:

“Pikens never build arrowcarts in open field and never blob” HAHAHA

Personally, I couldn’t care less if anyone blobs or uses AC’s heavily. Unless blobbing causes lags/delays or ACs are replacement for any other strategy.

You should see enemy’s blobbing as a sign of “throwing a towel”, basically saying “that’s the only way we can deal with you”.

As of siege, smartly placed AC or ballista (or even a flame ram, you’d be surprised…) in open field fight that actually worked and maybe even turned the tide of the fight is a gem of battle strategy to pull off in my book.

I would suggest anyone with concerns regarding blobbing, relative numbers or what was actually happening during particular fight – take screenshots, record videos and then actually analyze them. It will be an eye opener for many on how subjective one’s perception is regarding events they have experienced and thought they have what should be considered an ultimate truth regarding what actually happened.

flowjob.7934:

“Pikens never build arrowcarts in open field and never blob” HAHAHA

It was raid of my guild with “badge on”, bcs we had only 15 ppl. Or u think that we should jump to 70 Riversiders with 15-20 ppl? We are not so crazy :P

Today we were running most of the time with 15-20 people until they saw he huge canvas of 60-70 enemies. It was then and had to gather around us all pugs (who, by the way, awful move Commander without a voice)

Sorry but we were only 30 people, not 70 …

BloodyB.4320:

Today we were running most of the time with 15-20 people until they saw he huge canvas of 60-70 enemies.

flowjob.7934:

Sorry but we were only 30 people, not 70 …

That’s what I’m talking about. Please provide independent source (ie screenshot or video) where we can clearly see 70 vs 20. Please. Do not dive into the depths of personal perceptions or take “They are 70 at least!” screams in TS for granted. 70 in one spot?! That’s an exceptional claim I’d argue that requires exceptional evidence.

Saved by the patch @ GH hills

I would like to extend a few thanks after tonight.

Firstly I’d like to thank Anet for their timely patch sparing us with all the doors down in hills, and garrison watergate also down…

Secondly, after commanding in two stints on our bl tonight, most of that time with the outmanned buff I’d like to thank all the Gunnars players who played tonight. We lost bay, and garrison, we got them back, we lost them again. We were hit by 30+ man groups, we were hit with multiple guild groups and we were involved and hugely outnumbered in 3-way battles. Yet despite all this the morale was as high as I’ve seen it. Everyone was laughing and enjoying themselves on comms and not once did I get flamed or hear complaints when things went badly (apart from Svart, ofc). Very proud to be a Gunnar right now…

Thirdly I’d like to thank the enemy groups that came to our borderland for the good fights and the loot. We were outmatched sure but I had a great time regardless. Got a couple of rares for my troubles too (though certainly not from the wxp chests!)

BloodyB.4320:

It was raid of my guild with “badge on”, bcs we had only 15 ppl. Or u think that we should jump to 70 Riversiders with 15-20 ppl?

flowjob.7934:

Sorry but we were only 30 people, not 70 …

Obviously, counting seems to be a way too hard task in WvW these days. I wish people would just accept this as a fact and stop arguing about imaginary numbers …

~MRA

Yaro.3251:

BloodyB.4320:

Today we were running most of the time with 15-20 people until they saw he huge canvas of 60-70 enemies.

flowjob.7934:

Sorry but we were only 30 people, not 70 …

That’s what I’m talking about. Please provide independent source (ie screenshot or video) where we can clearly see 70 vs 20. Please. Do not dive into the depths of personal perceptions or take “They are 70 at least!” screams in TS for granted. 70 in one spot?! That’s an exceptional claim I’d argue that requires exceptional evidence.

Indeed. The truth is, that we where about ~30+ people. I was in command at this time. At the beginning the numbers where almost equal. But in time more and more Piken appeared and kicked finally our kitten … quite nice fight which took severeal minutes.
Nothing special … except the ACs ^^

Keep calm folks … its all about fun

To the thief from Keks: sorry for the others who ruined the duel, that place is not used for duels on GH usually, my bad!

Any chance we could agree a spot for duels with map shots for the hard of thinking (ie. me)? I’d hate to accidentally intrude on an agreed duel.

Adopting some cunning tactics at Hooligan’s Quarry.

Dont be sad…just practice harder

Respect to Gunnars Hold, you just play the game and enjoy the matchup nothing else, thank you for that.

Greets Myrmi

Thanks to VII for the two rounds we could fight, sorry we had to cancel it. Some of us had massive lag and in queue. Really hope we can face you again any time soon!

ZStefanovic.2475:

Thanks to VII for the two rounds we could fight, sorry we had to cancel it. Some of us had massive lag and in queue. Really hope we can face you again any time soon!

No problem, you guys did well for having lag. Thanks for the fights.

ZStefanovic.2475:

Thanks to VII for the two rounds we could fight, sorry we had to cancel it. Some of us had massive lag and in queue. Really hope we can face you again any time soon!

It’s probably problem with login servers. We got the same problem after last patch

had no Problem with the stomping. it was an unusual place indeed but it was really boring at the windmill. so it`s ok. thanks for the great time. we later met the guild HOPE and got friends i gues ;o) to the ranger of piken fighting one rs thief and 3 gunnars, my props to you. i had no Chance.

my hope is, we all go out of this matchup with new gained respect for each other!

Really good duals behind the windmill tonight, very educational fights.
Its a shame that a piken zerg came and rolled over all the duelers twice. Dont really know what to say about this, were out of the way bothering no one yet you feel the need to give your server a bad name by doing stuff like this.

Hopefully ill get on to lead the guild in primetime tomorrow and get some real action!

Runty Choir.4893:

Really good duals behind the windmill tonight, very educational fights.
Its a shame that a piken zerg came and rolled over all the duelers twice. Dont really know what to say about this, were out of the way bothering no one yet you feel the need to give your server a bad name by doing stuff like this.

Hopefully ill get on to lead the guild in primetime tomorrow and get some real action!

I think the first zerg was RS actually. I think Piken only came past once.

And some good duels indeed. Does something like that happen more often or was this just some random one time thing? (I was the Piken human ele by the way)

I was the Charr guard in TA armour.

On GH this is where all duels happen and they seem to go on quite a lot.

Also i asked around and i apolagise, 1 Zerg was a RS one and one was a PS one so shame on you both.

Mind of a Madman.6032:

And some good duels indeed. Does something like that happen more often or was this just some random one time thing? (I was the Piken human ele by the way)

I’m not particularly good at duelling but they’re lots of fun and it’s the only way i get to see the capabilities and skills of all the other classes. I’ve had quite a few this match-up, no where near as many as the lower tiers though, something about the higher tier mentality seems to make them difficult to find. I always assumed the opposite would be the case since the more invested PvP players left for the high tiers long ago.

But yeah, they do happen frequently, you just have to be willing to approach the enemy and ask them. Either add them to you party or run towards them jumping and hope they understand. If you ever see a human engineer with SOE tags running around feel free to approach me for a duel or if you have a group PM me and i’ll see if i can rustle together some players and we’ll have a mini event.