Guild Wars 2

clint.5681:

Didn’t DH almost lose to FC, the server we almost beat by 100k? And didn’t DH lose to us by almost 50k? I’m not saying you guys didn’t improve or whatever but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

wake up big bro.

When FC faced HoD, as of Tuesday morning we were closer than you are right now.

Let’s start the campaign: “Everyone hit SF”, so we can make DH 2nd!

oh wait its not Tuesday is it ROFL! ok youre down 38k we were down 42k.

we can take SF if there is a competent 3rd server in the match. besides FC/DH/GoM we haven’t had a good 3-way fight all season and we won’t get one.

I really hope after leagues we get HoD/FC/SF or HoD/DH/FC or FC/SF/DH or HoD/SF/DH

any of the great matches that DO NOT EXIST in this stupid schedule :-/

Solstice.1097:

I really hope after leagues we get HoD/FC/SF or HoD/DH/FC or FC/SF/DH or HoD/SF/DH

any of the great matches that DO NOT EXIST in this stupid schedule :-/

Don’t forget SF/FC/ET… We don’t have a bro-trio matchup ever since we got our ratings buffed so SF could move out of T8.

Oh yeah, DH will need to beat FC again next week if they want to try for second… That problably will be the most intense fight on the league (problably much more than HoD/SF fights), as DH will come with all they got to still have their shot at 2nd.

Solstice.1097:

oh wait its not Tuesday is it ROFL! ok youre down 38k we were down 42k.

we can take SF if there is a competent 3rd server in the match. besides FC/DH/GoM we haven’t had a good 3-way fight all season and we won’t get one.

Same thing I said to DH about HoD applies to you. And also you lost to us by almost 100k, you have no ground to stand on champ. I just hope in the next fight you don’t cry and insult the third server for not helping you gang up on us like you did last time.

Sod this. First match after leagues needs to be the Bro Trio. A lot of crap’s being slung on all sides, and it needs squashed. Hell, it needed be squashed during this season, but we got bloody well trolled.
As far as my opinion – the only “Bronze” we haven’t secured at least one win on – preseason or during – is HoD. Past that, it honestly depends on who brings their S-Rank tail-whipping skills out, and when.

Antara.3189:

Meanwhile in Anvil…

LOL This made my day.

Here’s my prediction for season 1 final results:

HoD – 35
SF – 31
DH – 27
FC – 25
GoM – 23
DR – 15
ET – 13
KN – 11
AR – 9

Darkhaven your win over FC by a hair earned you 3rd place. We need to petition Anet not to have patches within 2-3 hours of reset ever again. All of FCs golems were eaten by the patch when you were only ahead by about 300 points. I hear you also had golems eaten as well. Such a BS end to an incredible fight.

Quit selling our guys short, Solstice. One can argue that’ll just kill off morale. A much more amusing end would be a 3rd place tie between us and DH. It’s not impossible, at this rate.

Advent.6193:

Quit selling our guys short, Solstice. One can argue that’ll just kill off morale. A much more amusing end would be a 3rd place tie between us and DH. It’s not impossible, at this rate.

well to get tie for 3rd either we have to beat HoD or either AR or DR has to beat DH.

I think we’re better than DH and next week I intend to prove it, but the way the matches are scheduled is not in our favor.

I’d much rather stomp DH and get 4th than get stomped by them and get 3rd due to schedule.

anyway where the hell have you been? I haven’t seen you online recently

Oh, I’m still around – tend to appear around reset weekend. TBH, my 1000+ hours were beginning to catch up, so I’ve been limiting my exposure a bit. Although, I do have an itchy Mesmer/Thief-finger, so some poor sap’s getting wiped soon.

F-F-F-FERG FERG FERG. FERG IS THE ZERG F-F-F Ferg Ferg Ferg Ferg is the zerg

Haven’t you heard about the Ferg?!? Everybody knows that the Ferg is the zerg!

Bababa boo mao mao baba ba mao bababa boo mao mao boomaomamo

Just remember, the coverage gap…..

You can be better, beat them, have awesome fights considered even or uneven, awesome match, bad match, roflstomp them, make them quit for the week, do all that and still lose.

Skill, community, coordination, organization, blah blah blah, all trumped by coverage. A large portion of us on SF, while still playing to win to an extent realizes this and has realized this long long ago, that despite best efforts, we have to sleep, eat, pay our bills, etc.

An organized 10 man group in the off-time, is worth more then a completely qued map during entire prime time.

clint.5681:

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Didn’t DH almost lose to FC, the server we almost beat by 100k? And didn’t DH lose to us by almost 50k? I’m not saying you guys didn’t improve or whatever but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Again, lol, HoD is stomping you as bad as they did us AND we matched HoD at night time. This means that, while you may roflstomp us at primetime, you may find your lead gone when you wake up. Further, consider what happened in the GoM Vs. FC Vs. Dh match of epicness. We were behind both servers by 10k, then suddenly, out of no where, we pretty much took over the match. Since then, our coverage has improved quite a bit and so has our defense, and we’re just as lethal on the offense as we always were.

I agree, let’s not jump to any conclusions. Dh is still the underdog in the match against SF, but I think you’d be quite silly to rule Dh out. We’re gunning for you, but that doesn’t mean we’re better than you/will beat you. We may not even stand a chance against you, time will tell, but we’re just trying to think things through. And take not. HoD is a server that literally just came off of fighting us and is currently fighting you, so they have a pretty good idea of each server’s capabilities, whereas your data is from week 1.

I’m not ruling anyone out, but unless you have got some transfers and we lose more people to people getting tired of leagues, how has anything changed? I’m sure if your coverage and tactics has gotten better then we will indeed have a closer match, but I’m seeing some puzzling stamens from you and others in this thread.

We matched HoD at prime time and had the lead several times over the weekend which is more than your server can say, so what is the point in bringing HoD into this?

We’re getting much higher participating in WvW and are more coordinated. On top of that, Dh has finally realized the value of defending stuff after our match with GoM/FC, our defensive game has improved by a large margin.

Also, you do realize we took a 100+ppt lead over HoD dozens of times, right? HoD owned us, and we admit that lol, but don’t think we never fought back…

Solstice.1097:

Here’s my prediction for season 1 final results:

HoD – 35
SF – 31
DH – 27
FC – 25
GoM – 23
DR – 15
ET – 13
KN – 11
AR – 9

Darkhaven your win over FC by a hair earned you 3rd place. We need to petition Anet not to have patches within 2-3 hours of reset ever again. All of FCs golems were eaten by the patch when you were only ahead by about 300 points. I hear you also had golems eaten as well. Such a BS end to an incredible fight.

You had golems? Oh man lol. Yeah, we had ours eaten as well. At that point, FC had a huge PPT lead (it was like 400-130 or something crazy like that) so you guys got like one free tick like that, my friends were all raging so much. I thought the world was over lol, I was sure you guys had us at that point. I miss that matchup lol.

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Didn’t DH almost lose to FC, the server we almost beat by 100k? And didn’t DH lose to us by almost 50k? I’m not saying you guys didn’t improve or whatever but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Again, lol, HoD is stomping you as bad as they did us AND we matched HoD at night time. This means that, while you may roflstomp us at primetime, you may find your lead gone when you wake up. Further, consider what happened in the GoM Vs. FC Vs. Dh match of epicness. We were behind both servers by 10k, then suddenly, out of no where, we pretty much took over the match. Since then, our coverage has improved quite a bit and so has our defense, and we’re just as lethal on the offense as we always were.

I agree, let’s not jump to any conclusions. Dh is still the underdog in the match against SF, but I think you’d be quite silly to rule Dh out. We’re gunning for you, but that doesn’t mean we’re better than you/will beat you. We may not even stand a chance against you, time will tell, but we’re just trying to think things through. And take not. HoD is a server that literally just came off of fighting us and is currently fighting you, so they have a pretty good idea of each server’s capabilities, whereas your data is from week 1.

I’m not ruling anyone out, but unless you have got some transfers and we lose more people to people getting tired of leagues, how has anything changed? I’m sure if your coverage and tactics has gotten better then we will indeed have a closer match, but I’m seeing some puzzling stamens from you and others in this thread.

We matched HoD at prime time and had the lead several times over the weekend which is more than your server can say, so what is the point in bringing HoD into this?

We’re getting much higher participating in WvW and are more coordinated. On top of that, Dh has finally realized the value of defending stuff after our match with GoM/FC, our defensive game has improved by a large margin.

Also, you do realize we took a 100+ppt lead over HoD dozens of times, right? HoD owned us, and we admit that lol, but don’t think we never fought back…

I was watching your match with interest an I was surprised that you got as close as you did. And I was talking about having an actual point lead over them

clint.5681:

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Didn’t DH almost lose to FC, the server we almost beat by 100k? And didn’t DH lose to us by almost 50k? I’m not saying you guys didn’t improve or whatever but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Again, lol, HoD is stomping you as bad as they did us AND we matched HoD at night time. This means that, while you may roflstomp us at primetime, you may find your lead gone when you wake up. Further, consider what happened in the GoM Vs. FC Vs. Dh match of epicness. We were behind both servers by 10k, then suddenly, out of no where, we pretty much took over the match. Since then, our coverage has improved quite a bit and so has our defense, and we’re just as lethal on the offense as we always were.

I agree, let’s not jump to any conclusions. Dh is still the underdog in the match against SF, but I think you’d be quite silly to rule Dh out. We’re gunning for you, but that doesn’t mean we’re better than you/will beat you. We may not even stand a chance against you, time will tell, but we’re just trying to think things through. And take not. HoD is a server that literally just came off of fighting us and is currently fighting you, so they have a pretty good idea of each server’s capabilities, whereas your data is from week 1.

I’m not ruling anyone out, but unless you have got some transfers and we lose more people to people getting tired of leagues, how has anything changed? I’m sure if your coverage and tactics has gotten better then we will indeed have a closer match, but I’m seeing some puzzling stamens from you and others in this thread.

We matched HoD at prime time and had the lead several times over the weekend which is more than your server can say, so what is the point in bringing HoD into this?

We’re getting much higher participating in WvW and are more coordinated. On top of that, Dh has finally realized the value of defending stuff after our match with GoM/FC, our defensive game has improved by a large margin.

Also, you do realize we took a 100+ppt lead over HoD dozens of times, right? HoD owned us, and we admit that lol, but don’t think we never fought back…

I was watching your match with interest an I was surprised that you got as close as you did. And I was talking about having an actual point lead over them

Yeah lol, I’m frankly scared about what is going to happen prime time in our matchup. I imagine you’re going to queue our BL like HoD did lol. Gonna be rough stuff.

Solstice.1097:

clint.5681:

Didn’t DH almost lose to FC, the server we almost beat by 100k? And didn’t DH lose to us by almost 50k? I’m not saying you guys didn’t improve or whatever but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

wake up big bro.

When FC faced HoD, as of Tuesday morning we were closer than you are right now.

The only thing we wake up to is having all that was done the previous night destroyed by the other server’s day crews. Same old crap on SF really, do well during primetime, gotta start from literally 10 ppt the next day vs T3 keeps. But oh well, it gives our server time to improve so if we do get xfers and make it to silver, we wont get rolled over by the lower-half of the silver tier. We’d need 600-800 new WvWers to have a shot at winning Silver though, most (read 90%) of those needing to be Euro, SEA, Oceanic times.

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

Umm…

Those HoD vs HoD fights get nasty.

IDK know why people keep saying stuff like:

We were beating server X by _ points on Tuesday….

Every match is different, even if its the same 3 teams just on a different week. Different things are going on outside of WvW that impact the matches, too many variables to account for.

As part of HoD’s SEA/Oceanic crew, I’d just like to point out that our SEA/Oceanic numbers haven’t really grown from, say, six months ago.

It’s still the same people I see around the same time, so I’m actually pretty baffled as to the allusions that HoD’s morning crew is larger/OP/etc.

So, just curious about the other servers – did you guys lose a big chunk of your SEA/Oceanic population before the league started?

Not much mention of DR on here. Guess there isn’t much to talk about. I figured we would come in 6th place. I knew we had more pop/coverage than ar and et. I assumed we could beat k nig and we probably could in a different matchup but in this weeks match dh has been pretty much only been focusing us. Last night I finally saw dh hit knig a little bit but its kinda to little to late. Think dh just mad we keep trebbing precious stonemist and roll over them in any even number engagement. While knig just kinda sits in there corner doing nothing.

Knig is new. How’d you come up with that one?

titanlectro.5029:

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

Umm…

Those HoD vs HoD fights get nasty.

HAHAHA oops I meant HoD and maybe SF can beat IoJ

King Amadaeus.8619:

IDK know why people keep saying stuff like:

We were beating server X by _ points on Tuesday….

Every match is different, even if its the same 3 teams just on a different week. Different things are going on outside of WvW that impact the matches, too many variables to account for.

was just using clint’s flawed logic to show it’s silliness

This thread is going well. A bit more chest thumping and I’ll be very happy.

Chuck Zitto.2367:

Not much mention of DR on here. Guess there isn’t much to talk about. I figured we would come in 6th place. I knew we had more pop/coverage than ar and et. I assumed we could beat k nig and we probably could in a different matchup but in this weeks match dh has been pretty much only been focusing us. Last night I finally saw dh hit knig a little bit but its kinda to little to late. Think dh just mad we keep trebbing precious stonemist and roll over them in any even number engagement. While knig just kinda sits in there corner doing nothing.

You beating us in even number engagements? Okay xD. No, we’ve actually taken Kaineng’s fully upgraded borderlands a few times now, ask them. We’ve also tried to on many other occasions but they can map hop pretty quick to defend, they’re simply tougher to take. Also, we took all of their EB yesterday, and THEN took all of your EB, not the other way around.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

This thread is going well. A bit more chest thumping and I’ll be very happy.

Please, refer to SF/HoD/GoM thread and look for [MU] posts… (I belive they are on page 7).

Jeknar.6184:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

This thread is going well. A bit more chest thumping and I’ll be very happy.

Please, refer to SF/HoD/GoM thread and look for [MU] posts… (I belive they are on page 7).

They’ve come from tier 1 to inspire us. Screenshot evidence lets us know that you can beat bigger numbers with smaller numbers using secret tech like voice chat, working as a team, and WvW specialized builds.

just pokin fun at the new guys!

Arius.7031:

On top of that, Dh has finally realized the value of defending stuff after our match with GoM/FC, our defensive game has improved by a large margin.

I think you mean our stuff. Defending our stuff. From us.

plevyakin.8792:

As part of HoD’s SEA/Oceanic crew, I’d just like to point out that our SEA/Oceanic numbers haven’t really grown from, say, six months ago.

It’s still the same people I see around the same time, so I’m actually pretty baffled as to the allusions that HoD’s morning crew is larger/OP/etc.

So, just curious about the other servers – did you guys lose a big chunk of your SEA/Oceanic population before the league started?

We didn’t lose them. We never had them in the 1st place. Last year we were the bottom of the bottom of T8 for couple months, there were maybe 20-30 of us running around at prime time on all 4 maps combined. Then as our casual and PvE players started to hit 80 and gearing up and hitting WvW after being done with PvE content, that begun to change and is still continuously changing, but that is still NA prime time, not off time.

SF has never had free transfers, never had any large guild transfer, never had any decent off-time coverage. We do have some people now, I know there is an Aussie guild forming, well, formed, but still is in its infancy, so at best it will be a long while before these guys get everything rolling.

Even if we do get transfers, we are kinda weary of people from upper tiers, while vast majority of people who transfer are cool, we have ran into plenty of ex-T1 jerks and kitten bags. So not sure how would all this fit in even if we did get a large transfer.

P.S. If you wanna test coverage gap and the impact you have on it, its simple, just pull out your guild for entirely, for whole next week, see what happens.

madchatter.7964:

Arius.7031:

On top of that, Dh has finally realized the value of defending stuff after our match with GoM/FC, our defensive game has improved by a large margin.

I think you mean our stuff. Defending our stuff. From us.

Lol! If it helps, HoD did the exact same thing to us right after we did it to you :P.

Banzie.5248:

Arius.7031:

Banzie.5248:

4 weeks til IoJ is back frands <3

I’m interested to see where you/NSP will be ranked in our league, if you both drop down. SF/HoD will probably ascend for next season, whenever that happens, so we’ll probably be fighting it out with you two.

Personally I believe IoJ is in an area where we would stomp NSP and SF, but of HoD keeps it up we’d be on par with them. If not have slightly more coverage. However CD coverage is superior to ours and they beat us.

Most of us here play to fight in silver now, screw the ppt.

Is this the same IoJ that said they would “stomp” Sf when we broke out of the Glicko Ghetto? LOL, memories do fade with time but I would like to remind you that we stomped you guys back then. Not saying we would stomp you now but keep it real at least.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Is this the same IoJ that said they would “stomp” Sf when we broke out of the Glicko Ghetto? LOL, memories do fade with time but I would like to remind you that we stomped you guys back then. Not saying we would stomp you now but keep it real at least.

Erm… The servers that said that would Stomp SF back then were GoM, HoD and NSP…

IoJ was dying at the time, and I belive they were around T5 or T6 (falling from T2).

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

LOL, and you expect to be taken seriously? Everyone knows we lack a night crew compared to every server except maybe the bottom 3 of Bronze. MAYBE. I usually like reading your posts because as antagonistic as you like to be you usally make valid points, but with this one you are way off base.

Jeknar.6184:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Is this the same IoJ that said they would “stomp” Sf when we broke out of the Glicko Ghetto? LOL, memories do fade with time but I would like to remind you that we stomped you guys back then. Not saying we would stomp you now but keep it real at least.

Erm… The servers that said that would Stomp SF back then were GoM, HoD and NSP…

IoJ was dying at the time, and I belive they were around T5 or T6 (falling from T2).

Yup, after we stomped them IoJ was talking smack just like they were.

Correction: We did not stomp IoJ when we moved up into their Tier. We did get enough points to pass them but we did not stomp them.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

LOL, and you expect to be taken seriously? Everyone knows we lack a night crew compared to every server except maybe the bottom 3 of Bronze. MAYBE. I usually like reading your posts because as antagonistic as you like to be you usally make valid points, but with this one you are way off base.

you seem to think other bronze servers actually have night crews and you dont. no, we all lack a legitimate night crew except HoD, and even there’s would be just about the worst night crew in silver league.

Some of us have early morning crews starting around 5-6AM server time but I’m not considering that a night crew.

Solstice.1097:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

LOL, and you expect to be taken seriously? Everyone knows we lack a night crew compared to every server except maybe the bottom 3 of Bronze. MAYBE. I usually like reading your posts because as antagonistic as you like to be you usally make valid points, but with this one you are way off base.

you seem to think other bronze servers actually have night crews and you dont. no, we all lack a legitimate night crew except HoD, and even there’s would be just about the worst night crew in silver league.

Some of us have early morning crews starting around 5-6AM server time but I’m not considering that a night crew.

5am is night, everyone still sleeps at that time. That is what “nightcapping” refers to, while we sleep. Regardless, we dont have a crew then, we dont have one for 9am, we dont have one for noon. A few eastern people log in at 4pm server time, but not enough to undo the T3s that were set up during the day. We do have the best primetime crew in bronze, when they play… which is not often because others play and drag us down by queuing our maps. Having the choice, a lot of us would play a different timeslot just to avoid that and to even the playing field.

What i see happen a lot is a server’s NA prime will stay up extra late to increase a lead or close in on one. The next day their enemy decides to stay up a bit later to counter what they perceive as a “night crew” only to find nobody is around (because they burnt themselves out the night before) and end up just flipping everything without resistance or really burning themselves out too much.

Solstice.1097:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

LOL, and you expect to be taken seriously? Everyone knows we lack a night crew compared to every server except maybe the bottom 3 of Bronze. MAYBE. I usually like reading your posts because as antagonistic as you like to be you usally make valid points, but with this one you are way off base.

you seem to think other bronze servers actually have night crews and you dont. no, we all lack a legitimate night crew except HoD, and even there’s would be just about the worst night crew in silver league.

Some of us have early morning crews starting around 5-6AM server time but I’m not considering that a night crew.

Again, just because you THINK something is, does not make it so. You can find many, many, MANY references to SF’s lack of night/morning/work day coverage in other threads, people comment all the time about how lesser population server make up PPT overnight/morning/work day.

Convenient of you to try and apply your thoughts on it as fact, but it just is not the way you “see” it.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

LOL, and you expect to be taken seriously? Everyone knows we lack a night crew compared to every server except maybe the bottom 3 of Bronze. MAYBE. I usually like reading your posts because as antagonistic as you like to be you usally make valid points, but with this one you are way off base.

you seem to think other bronze servers actually have night crews and you dont. no, we all lack a legitimate night crew except HoD, and even there’s would be just about the worst night crew in silver league.

Some of us have early morning crews starting around 5-6AM server time but I’m not considering that a night crew.

Again, just because you THINK something is, does not make it so. You can find many, many, MANY references to SF’s lack of night/morning/work day coverage in other threads, people comment all the time about how lesser population server make up PPT overnight/morning/work day.

Convenient of you to try and apply your thoughts on it as fact, but it just is not the way you “see” it.

SF’s lack of night crew is just more noticeable because of the contrast to your huge NA prime.

You’re saying I can find references while also saying that those references are irrelevant because it doesn’t matter what people think. And those references are certainly from either SF or HoD. Of course SF feels that way and from HoD’s perspective nobody has a night crew in Bronze.

Let’s look at facts bro – for example SF/DH/ET match. You got down to 105 PPT on Sunday night and down to 145 PPT at 8am Friday morning. Besides those two dips the lowest you ever reached was like 170 PPT but almost always kept it at 200+. And wednesday, thursday, friday you had the PPT ead at 5am.

So I still have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Solstice.1097:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Solstice.1097:

I bet HoD and maybe SF could beat HoD. I also bet HoD and NSP would be a very close matchup.

SF doesn’t lack a night crew any more than the other bronze servers does, except for HoD and their asian guilds which they may lose when the asian servers go online.

LOL, and you expect to be taken seriously? Everyone knows we lack a night crew compared to every server except maybe the bottom 3 of Bronze. MAYBE. I usually like reading your posts because as antagonistic as you like to be you usally make valid points, but with this one you are way off base.

you seem to think other bronze servers actually have night crews and you dont. no, we all lack a legitimate night crew except HoD, and even there’s would be just about the worst night crew in silver league.

Some of us have early morning crews starting around 5-6AM server time but I’m not considering that a night crew.

Again, just because you THINK something is, does not make it so. You can find many, many, MANY references to SF’s lack of night/morning/work day coverage in other threads, people comment all the time about how lesser population server make up PPT overnight/morning/work day.

Convenient of you to try and apply your thoughts on it as fact, but it just is not the way you “see” it.

SF’s lack of night crew is just more noticeable because of the contrast to your huge NA prime.

You’re saying I can find references while also saying that those references are irrelevant because it doesn’t matter what people think. And those references are certainly from either SF or HoD. Of course SF feels that way and from HoD’s perspective nobody has a night crew in Bronze.

Let’s look at facts bro – for example SF/DH/ET match. You got down to 105 PPT on Sunday night and down to 145 PPT at 8am Friday morning. Besides those two dips the lowest you ever reached was like 170 PPT but almost always kept it at 200+. And wednesday, thursday, friday you had the PPT ead at 5am.

So I still have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

I agree on the contrast thing, but nice try on changing my words around and adding your own stuff in there. I never said those references were invalid you did. I said your stating of things as if they were fact was. And no, as I said other people’s comments, not SF.

And one matchup is not a good reference point, especially when the league had just started and PvE folks were in full force for achievements.

I know what you are trying to say, you are just saying it in grandiose terms. Of course every server has SOME number of folks who are in WvW overnight/morning/work day, never disputed that. What I do dispute is you saying SF has equal night coverage as the other Bronze servers, which is just not true.

Solstice.1097:

Let’s look at facts bro – for example SF/DH/ET match. You got down to 105 PPT on Sunday night and down to 145 PPT at 8am Friday morning. Besides those two dips the lowest you ever reached was like 170 PPT but almost always kept it at 200+. And wednesday, thursday, friday you had the PPT ead at 5am.

Lowest we reached this match was +5 PPT Monday morning around 6am server (though I think we were able to increase that to +15 for the tick).

Manoa.5897:

Solstice.1097:

Let’s look at facts bro – for example SF/DH/ET match. You got down to 105 PPT on Sunday night and down to 145 PPT at 8am Friday morning. Besides those two dips the lowest you ever reached was like 170 PPT but almost always kept it at 200+. And wednesday, thursday, friday you had the PPT ead at 5am.

Lowest we reached this match was +5 PPT Monday morning around 6am server (though I think we were able to increase that to +15 for the tick).

Oh no!!! You used facts in your argument here, I am not sure they will understand what you are trying to say…

Manoa.5897:

Solstice.1097:

Let’s look at facts bro – for example SF/DH/ET match. You got down to 105 PPT on Sunday night and down to 145 PPT at 8am Friday morning. Besides those two dips the lowest you ever reached was like 170 PPT but almost always kept it at 200+. And wednesday, thursday, friday you had the PPT ead at 5am.

Lowest we reached this match was +5 PPT Monday morning at 6am server (to the best of my knowledge, who knows, there may be a chance that we may have dropped to 0 PPT at one point).

yes this particular match HoD got you down to 15 on a tick but HoD would do that to any bronze server. they have “two and a half” asian guilds.

having played all the bronze servers in the last 4 weeks the only servers to consistently beat us overnight have been SF and HoD.

HoD actually didn’t beat us as badly overnight kitten did, but that was week 1 when we (and they) had a lot more PvE players flooding things and diluting results.

wow aggressive filter there – as badly overnight as you did

And yes…SF really does have a pretty limited night crew. Just like pretty every other server in Bronze league with exception to HoD. Know why our PPT doesn’t dip much below 100 PPT at night/early morning for most of the season? Because our most opponents are sleeping…just like most of our people.