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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

Here is my take on the Bronze league as it stands now. In all of NA, most of the uncertainty lies here, and certainly the best fights can be found in ranks 16-24.

Keep it clean. Keep it interesting. Keep it fun! and for the love of god none of us (correct me if i’m wrong) want any giant guilds hopping down to ruin our very competitive league!

Kaineng

The biggest wild-card in the league. Though some have accused KN of tanking intentionally, my understanding is that is not the case. It seems a mass-exodus has occurred and this coupled with a match against E-bay has left the remaining players with little incentive to fight this week. Their expected rating, inaccurate as it may be, is to be top of Bronze league – and due to drama on other servers KN may just receive a last-minute influx of bandwagoners. Aside from that in its current state I predict their numbers to be slightly less than the top Bronze servers, however with much different coverage spots that may just be enough to make them still one of the most difficult servers to beat.

Henge of Denravi

HoD probably has an inflated rating due to matches with higher ranked servers, and more realistically is very even with FC and SF and DH (and maybe KN) in population. This leaves them with a slight advantage simply due to the battle-hardened-ness of fighting outnumbered, but will their recent server drama caused by opposing viewpoints of which league they want(ed) to aim for cancel out these advantages?

Ferguson’s Crossing

After spending an entire year in Tier 8, in the last 2 weeks FC has boosted itself up to T6 including their first ever wins against SF and DH. For a low rank, low pop server, FC’s coverage (recently) seems better than similarly ranked servers, and their recent success is mostly attributed to their few WvW guilds attracting and training PvE players. Absent transfers their numbers are still growing, but the biggest server they’ve fought in recent weeks is NSP. Can FC’s veteran players effectively rally their recruits and pull off a season 1 upset? 4-5 weeks ago nobody would have thought so… but now the question begs an answer.

Darkhaven

DH’s numbers in NA prime are quite substantial and enough to overwhelm many of the bronze servers, however their overnight presence has been virtually zero as of late. Positioned at #4, if they want to medal this season they will need to overcome this gap either through countless energy drinks, some lucky transfers, or their heavy PvE population chasing meta achievements. While they have been on a decline, their NA prime numbers are large enough that even a band-aid on their coverage issue will be enough to make them a top contender

Sorrow’s Furnace

Take Darkhaven, add ~15% to their coverage, reduce their potential PvE influx, put a target on their heads, and you have Sorrow’s Furnace. Despite a recent last-minute loss to FC and a current bashing from Yak’s Bend, SF in their prime time can pretty much overwhelm any bronze server and is not to be underestimated in the least. SF’s fate in this league will most likely largely be determined by how the match-ups fall and who focuses on who.

Eredon Terrace

Take Ferguson’s Crossing, take away the momentum and replace it with sprinkles of the experience from some higher-tier matches, and you have a picture of ET. While ET is a bit out-manned compared to 16-20, they are also less likely to make themselves a target as well as more willing to defend. If ET can force the higher servers into a 1v1 and then feed off the opportunities that creates, they do have the coordination and numbers to make a run at a top 3 finish if not first. But if the rumors are true about a few ET guilds planning to transfer, they could be taken out of the running.

Devona’s Rest – Gate of Madness – Anvil Rock

I have combined these servers because while their communities and personalities and tactics and coverage may all be slightly different, their situations are all the same – each server over the summer has taken a nose-dive into the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. At this point it seems each server has stabilized and is no longer bleeding players. They still lack the overall numbers and coverage to take the higher servers head-on, but they will not be blown away by anyone, and in many matches these 3 will have the power to determine who wins if it’s not going to be themselves. These 3 servers will also be a potential prospect for any disgruntled high-tier guilds to want to hop down to and cause chaos in bronze league, and while Kaineng is the biggest wild-card, these 3 worlds should also be considered wild-cards as it will not take much to bump them up in the ranks.

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Posted by: clint.5681

clint.5681

I have to say i like these descriptions lmao. I honestly think kaining still has the numbers to blow the rest of us away in bronze but that remains to be seen.

We (SF) haven’t played HoD recently so im not sure how they are looking anymore but I feel like SF and FC will be the biggest contenders with a nod to ET as well.

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Posted by: Brigg.3961

Brigg.3961

I think it will be extra interesting to see how each server performs given a more leveled matchup as well. HoD came in second place a few times due (in my opinion) to the upper tiered server smashing on third place for easy points. Sometimes, we were that third place getting smashed. I have no doubt that all of the Bronze league servers have what it takes to win. I love our league and am extremely happy to have the servers within it as participants!

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

@ clint thanks lol @ brigg amen!

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Posted by: Banzie.5248

Banzie.5248

What will push certain servers over the top for upset wins in this league is going to be the PvE population. Many servers that are low in the WvW Spectrum are “Very High” or sometimes for a minute or two hit “Full” on the transfer list for NA prime time.

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Posted by: clint.5681

clint.5681

That and who is the most organized and responsive. Also who has the best night crew which most of us dont have.

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Posted by: ArkAngel.7940

ArkAngel.7940

Those descriptions make it sound like a real sport with background info on all the players. WvW esport!!

We will need a 24/7 livestream coverage with commentary. Throw in some fans. Get some beer stands ready. Hack out the rest of your candy corn and lets duke it out!

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

I’m guessing either HoD or FC will win this.

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Posted by: clint.5681

clint.5681

Ill be watching HoD because i honestly am not feeling like they pose that big of a threat as they used to.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

And if for some reason the leagues are determined by last week’s ratings, replace Kaineng with:

Northern Shiverpeaks

As the top rated and favorite server in the league, Northern Shiverpeaks can 1v1 any server without much difficulty, however due to ‘circumstances’ the target on their head is the biggest of all. Even though NSP can handle any server 1v1 they are not stacked enough to handle 1v2 in most cases. Will the other Bronze servers feel like the system was manipulated and gang up on NSP, or will they fight over 2nd place allowing NSP to sit comfortably on their throne for the next 7 weeks?

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Posted by: Mepheles.2087

Mepheles.2087

Our Position at #4 may be ripped from us, as our PvE pop cannot be convinced WvW matters, and we have nothing to offer guilds who might be thinking of transferring. atm, FC had a giant zerg in EB in the afternoon that doubled anything we currently had since Saturday. Our problem is that our presence is not consistent, every afternoon. couple that with our non-existent night presence and boy how did we ever make it out of T8 at all..

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

Our Position at #4 may be ripped from us, as our PvE pop cannot be convinced WvW matters, and we have nothing to offer guilds who might be thinking of transferring. atm, FC had a giant zerg in EB in the afternoon that doubled anything we currently had since Saturday. Our problem is that our presence is not consistent, every afternoon. couple that with our non-existent night presence and boy how did we ever make it out of T8 at all..

Wait until the leagues start. The pve players will come out to play.

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Posted by: clint.5681

clint.5681

Yeah they can get AP and titles for playing WvW. You know how much gw2 players love titles and AP.

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Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059

Gab Superstar.4059

It’s going to be interesting seeing what effect all the non-WvW players who want the meta achievement have on these match ups. Bronze league will by far be the most competitive league of all. I suspect we won’t be able to tell the winner until 2-3 weeks into the match ups (although there are some contenders and some non-contenders), whereas the other leagues are pretty much decided already. I also think there won’t be as many blowouts in bronze league.

GL to everyone I guess.

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Posted by: Curo.2483

Curo.2483

As much as NSP would probably dominate Bronze league, these servers are MUCH closer matchups than anything in Silver league is to NSP.

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Posted by: Antara.3189

Antara.3189

Anvil Rock will be giving everyone a warm welcome in Bronze.

The little brother is back with a vengeance

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Posted by: King Amadaeus.8619

King Amadaeus.8619

I still think Kaineng has the best chance. For a couple of reasons:

1. They will likely get an influx of fairweather transfers/guilds.
2. Even though they lost some numbers, if they have anything decent in the Euro/SEA/Oceanic (basically off peak NA times) then they could easily win.

I think my server, SF, has a decent shot of winning this thing as well. The last couple of weeks have been tough, but a lot of people are currently in PVE (event) and have been taking time off to rest up for the league push.

The one thing I can promise you all: You have not seen the SF over the past 4-5 weeks that you will see the next 7. We may not win, but we are going to fight like hell.

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Posted by: styx.7294

styx.7294

Probably the biggest factor is how much the tanking/not tanking drama affects the communities of the servers at the top of the league but I’m not expecting any big guild transfers to this league.

VLK and IoM are, in my opinion, the biggest hittin guilds in the league but I think Henge of Denravi is a lil’ bit bigger. I have to say, I’m completely without a clue as to how Kaineng will do since it’s been a while since I faced them.

At the end of the day, the most important thing is that Gate of Madness is the sexiest server and even if we don’t get the chests, we’re the server everyone buys drinks for at the bar.

That is unless Taquito equips a stealth skill. Then they might as well hand us the prize and start season 2.

Edit: The tanking/not tanking drama is a very odd choice. I mean, I totally vote not tank but you’re gonna lose people either way. And is there gonna be a glorious influx of PvE players to WvW that will upset things? I will believe it when I see it.

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Posted by: Andrew Clear.1750

Andrew Clear.1750

I bet this is gonna be the most competitive league. Hope you guys will have some fun. I am on SBI, so I will be stuck stomping or being stomped.

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Posted by: styx.7294

styx.7294

I bet this is gonna be the most competitive league. Hope you guys will have some fun. I am on SBI, so I will be stuck stomping or being stomped.

Honestly, Stormbluff Isle is half of bronze league.

Nothing stopping you from transferring here, friend!

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Posted by: SHAKA ZULU.3128

SHAKA ZULU.3128

I am thinking HoD or SF (maybe DH) has a better #1 chance than KN. Simply because we have almost no weekday NA. It will kill off the fairweathers by Tuesday of each match. While we still have some overnight, I think they will be overwhelmed by the points lost during NA to the aforementioned. Regardless, it’ll be the most competitive of the 3 leagues, which is great.

love,

a guardian from k[Ai]neng

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Posted by: Andrew Clear.1750

Andrew Clear.1750

I bet this is gonna be the most competitive league. Hope you guys will have some fun. I am on SBI, so I will be stuck stomping or being stomped.

Honestly, Stormbluff Isle is half of bronze league.

Nothing stopping you from transferring here, friend!

Thanks for the invitation, but I am not a person who transfers. I think the only transfers I have ever done in an mmo, was when the servers merged, and I had no choice.

I have been with SBI since launch, and will stay their til it no longer exists.

I just hope that guilds in bronze don’t jump ship today or tomorrow for this league nonsense. Not worth it.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

Thank god they changed leagues to 6/9/9 instead of 12/12 or else we’d have Crystal Desert and IoJ ruining our league (we’d have NSP too but they wouldn’t really ruin it)

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

Johje Holan.4607

I bet this is gonna be the most competitive league. Hope you guys will have some fun. I am on SBI, so I will be stuck stomping or being stomped.

Honestly, Stormbluff Isle is half of bronze league.

Nothing stopping you from transferring here, friend!

Lol, that’s funny.

This league sounds like the most fun for sure.

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Posted by: King Amadaeus.8619

King Amadaeus.8619

I am glad/proud to be in bronze, this will no doubt be the most competitive league. (IMO)

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Posted by: skullmount.1758

skullmount.1758

Our Position at #4 may be ripped from us, as our PvE pop cannot be convinced WvW matters, and we have nothing to offer guilds who might be thinking of transferring. atm, FC had a giant zerg in EB in the afternoon that doubled anything we currently had since Saturday. Our problem is that our presence is not consistent, every afternoon. couple that with our non-existent night presence and boy how did we ever make it out of T8 at all..

I’m with him. I highly doubt we’ll get many of our PvE players, and even if we do, once they finish the ahcievements, they’ll leave again (which could happen in the first couple of weeks). We don’t/haven’t/won’t have any guilds transfer, in fact I know at least two more smaller ones we do have left/are leaving. I really wish we could get some people on our server.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

I thought DH has a very large PvE population. When new shinies come out WvW suffers on DH. If the new shiny IS WvW won’t that have the opposite effect?

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Posted by: Mepheles.2087

Mepheles.2087

What happens when the PvE’ers get their points and achieves or whatever? They leave. Leagues are 7 weeks. Plenty of time. I predict that they will all be gone by the 3rd week at the latest.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

What happens when the PvE’ers get their points and achieves or whatever? They leave. Leagues are 7 weeks. Plenty of time. I predict that they will all be gone by the 3rd week at the latest.

maybe – if I were you I’d be thinking about how I can make it as fun as possible for them to see how many I could get to stick around.

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Posted by: Mepheles.2087

Mepheles.2087

To make it fun, they actually have to be interested in WvW without the added carrot on a stick achievements. If they are only interested in achievments, and not wvw, we cannot convince them it is fun.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

hmm… kaineng pulled off a fairly close win against hod and dr, i think they could probably be a pretty strong contender in bronze, but not strong enough to bully everyone with impunity.

im sure for this weeks match ebay is focusing kain down just to ensure theyre put in bronze over nsp.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

To make it fun, they actually have to be interested in WvW without the added carrot on a stick achievements. If they are only interested in achievments, and not wvw, we cannot convince them it is fun.

don’t you hope you’re wrong?

yesterday a guy in /say chat in wvw said “i have no idea what’s going on but I’m having one hell of a good time”

you see a lot of people don’t come to WvW because they are intimidated and mostly because they don’t understand it and don’t want to get called a noob while learning. the carrot-chasing will teach them a lot about wvw in the process and break the ice.

a lot of players are like you said but also a lot are not. the ones I see coming into WvW are split between carrot-chasers and on the other side people who are genuinely interested to understand the game mode and what’s going on, asking questions and such. the way those players are treated has a lot to do with how many stick around.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

hmm… kaineng pulled off a fairly close win against hod and dr, i think they could probably be a pretty strong contender in bronze, but not strong enough to bully everyone with impunity.

im sure for this weeks match ebay is focusing kain down just to ensure theyre put in bronze over nsp.

Kaineng pull off a win over HoD yes, but they’ve lost at least 1 more primary wvw guild since then. however a few NSP players and maybe others have transferred to kaineng so it’s really anyone’s guess.

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Posted by: styx.7294

styx.7294

The thing about introducing PvE players to WvW there’s nothin to keep them from transferrin off like other people. Especially big PvE guilds that will get their ride paid for by tier 1.

It’s easier in the higher tiers and profitable.

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Posted by: Avatar of Belle.9623

Avatar of Belle.9623

Thanks for starting the bronze league thread! I felt a little left out that Gold & Silver got a thread and we had nothing.

I’m also see Bronze league to be the most competitive (and hopefully fun) league to be in.

T1 – T5, please don’t transfer to our servers unless you’re going to spread evenly out in T8. Thanks!

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Posted by: Mepheles.2087

Mepheles.2087

To make it fun, they actually have to be interested in WvW without the added carrot on a stick achievements. If they are only interested in achievments, and not wvw, we cannot convince them it is fun.

don’t you hope you’re wrong?

yesterday a guy in /say chat in wvw said “i have no idea what’s going on but I’m having one hell of a good time”

you see a lot of people don’t come to WvW because they are intimidated and mostly because they don’t understand it and don’t want to get called a noob while learning. the carrot-chasing will teach them a lot about wvw in the process and break the ice.

a lot of players are like you said but also a lot are not. the ones I see coming into WvW are split between carrot-chasers and on the other side people who are genuinely interested to understand the game mode and what’s going on, asking questions and such. the way those players are treated has a lot to do with how many stick around.

But as styx says, if they start to like WvW, but don’t like the server, they will decide to a “winning” server like SBI or some other that has a rather higher winrate than we have had in quite awhile. We can make it seem fun, but we also have to hope they might feel some server loyalty.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

I am a believer that you can’t complain if you didn’t try. You talk like it’s pre-determined what people will do and that you have no power to influence those decisions.

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Posted by: Runamok.9638

Runamok.9638

Rumors of guilds transferring off of ET? I need the scope. The paparazzi need the inside infos!

Bronze league is going to be pretty frickin awesome. I can’t wait for it to start! I see the battle for first between Kaineg and HoD. Really the rest is up for grabs. Who knows what will happen.

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Posted by: Cantur Soulfyre.5409

Cantur Soulfyre.5409

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

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Posted by: EFWinters.5421

EFWinters.5421

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

Those two servers literally improved nada. They rose as DR / AR / GoM all lost massive amounts of people. They are still the same servers they used to be back in T8.

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Posted by: TeamBattleAxe.3901

TeamBattleAxe.3901

I see the battle for first between Kaineg and HoD.

Given the past history of both servers, expect them to immediately tank at the first sign of a real fight.

My money’s on Ferg.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

Those two servers literally improved nada. They rose as DR / AR / GoM all lost massive amounts of people. They are still the same servers they used to be back in T8.

ET and FC are not the same. With respect, you are very mistaken.

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Posted by: EFWinters.5421

EFWinters.5421

ET and FC are not the same. With respect, you are very mistaken.

I’m really not.

Still, good luck in bronze!

Human Guardian
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Posted by: Runamok.9638

Runamok.9638

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

Those two servers literally improved nada. They rose as DR / AR / GoM all lost massive amounts of people. They are still the same servers they used to be back in T8.

ET and FC are not the same. With respect, you are very mistaken.

Ebay troll has no clue.

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Posted by: Cantur Soulfyre.5409

Cantur Soulfyre.5409

Ebay troll has no clue.

None. At all.

And posting in the Bronze League thread. So big of them.

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Posted by: EFWinters.5421

EFWinters.5421

I Want to give a shout-out to FC and ET for how much they have improved since the Glicko Ghetto days.

I was proud of your guys when you fought so well while SF had you outmanned all the time. And now with how well both of your servers fight while moving up. We are brother’s forged in the heat, pressure, and misery of the old Ghetto and I for one hope it is the three of us fighting it out for the top spot.

To everyone in the Bronze League, good luck and gods speed (wish that WAS a buff).

Those two servers literally improved nada. They rose as DR / AR / GoM all lost massive amounts of people. They are still the same servers they used to be back in T8.

ET and FC are not the same. With respect, you are very mistaken.

Ebay troll has no clue.

Would you prefer it if I voiced the same sentiments while logged into my FC account? My DR account? My whatever-has-played-these-servers-lately account?

Go away, troll.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

No worries we will just prove you wrong.

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Posted by: Avatar of Belle.9623

Avatar of Belle.9623

Please troll better Ebay. I need a flame war. Maybe we can be the first league thread to be locked.

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Posted by: Cantur Soulfyre.5409

Cantur Soulfyre.5409

LOL, see the way he tries to make himself look all big and bad by stating it has multiple accounts on multiple servers? Must be those high tier tactics at work.

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

Bronze leaguers let’s not acknowledge the trolls.

We do appreciate when higher tiers hop down to give props but trolls just want fed let’s not feed them and they will go away.