Tier 5: EB|BP|AR
I find this thread amusing, last time I checked WvWvW was a free for all with no balance or honor attached to it. We borlis took AR when they didn’t had the numbers to defend, what about it? They sieged some placed, fought as best as they could got overwhelm and loose, then came to Q_Q in the forums. AR got many really skilled players, thats their strength but individual strength adds little against the numbers you see in WvW. Take Ebay for an example, out of each 10 players you see in their mob 9 are way under n00b level, I mean kitten they get wiped by mobs 1/4 their size. But when that mindless zerg meets with Ebay good command they can beat servers with more skilled players.
I got nothing against either of the rival servers, I’m technically a PUG too since I don’t belong to any mayor guild or WvW guild in Borlis, nor do I care about any of the commanders, as other than 2 or 3 of them they are a bunch of n00b and trolls, some who have annoyed the hell out of me in personal levels. But as I mentioned each server got it’s strengths and their weakness. Honor, is something that doesn’t exist in war, much less does it exist in video games lol!
I find this thread amusing, last time I checked WvWvW was a free for all with no balance or honor attached to it. We borlis took AR when they didn’t had the numbers to defend, what about it? They sieged some placed, fought as best as they could got overwhelm and loose, then came to Q_Q in the forums. AR got many really skilled players, thats their strength but individual strength adds little against the numbers you see in WvW. Take Ebay for an example, out of each 10 players you see in their mob 9 are way under n00b level, I mean kitten they get wiped by mobs 1/4 their size. But when that mindless zerg meets with Ebay good command they can beat servers with more skilled players.
I got nothing against either of the rival servers, I’m technically a PUG too since I don’t belong to any mayor guild or WvW guild in Borlis, nor do I care about any of the commanders, as other than 2 or 3 of them they are a bunch of n00b and trolls, some who have annoyed the hell out of me in personal levels. But as I mentioned each server got it’s strengths and their weakness. Honor, is something that doesn’t exist in war, much less does it exist in video games lol!
Actually, honor does exist in war. It’s called the Geneva Convention, wiki and read up on it. And when my spouse and I were still in it was also still looked down upon to kill unarmed civilians or even field medics and chaplains… Dunno what happened in the younger generation. Seeing much to the contrary nowadays. Either way, off topic but there you go.
Back on track a little, that honor you speak down upon got me and one of your fellows the skill point and Vista in the ogre camp of EBG around noon earlier today. She and I worked together to get them. I used Shadow Refuge to get the skill point for myself, then aggro’ed and pulled the champ harpy away so she could get it as well. Being enemies does not necessarily mean you have to hate each other.
As for your statements of our players level of skill. How very biased and presumptuous of you. Every server has good and bad people, pugs, regulars, and leet veterans. Skill level depends on the individual player, and can only really be judged as such on the basis of that individual player. Trying to sum up an entire server merely on the acts or skills of a handful is folly. I can only use myself as example. I’m usually good in most 1v1’s and sometimes even 1v2’s, but I have seen players on our server than can drop 3-4 players in seconds. Does that look bad on me? Not necessarily. I know where I am, and am able to acknowledge my abilities and limitations. It does however mean there is always room for improvement.
Commander to [SLVR], Housepet to [GH]
(edited by KStudios.2850)
we all kind of naturally pick up on the other’s tendencies.
Too true. Today, I watched a Mesmer run up to a tower, cast portal and he popped a group right onto the tower wall. It wasn’t GH but it was another very well known Ebay guild. Was very discouraging to see.
Screen shots, reports sent, etc. etc.
did u not read the post above ?
Not online, and not mad. Just letting you know that you better stay inside a zerg or you are going to for repair.
Facts aren’t anger, they are just facts. I can drop you with little to no effort.you’re cool. drop me harder
No argument means you agree.
Don’t get me wrong, you are great at rallying players to a zerg, a semi competent leader, just a bad player.
thanks, my build is full toughness and healing power, i heal people around me and take a lot of damage, it was built to support a group/zerg. it wasnt meant to 1v1 people
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. It won’t make you better as a player, but as long as it puts your mind at ease.
Kalkz has a point lol this is WVW not SPVP, peeps IN wvw should build there builds to compensate the groups not for 1vs1 action
you can sit there and troll him all you like but at the end of it all IF he wasnt built that way he would be far worse as a commander like a few commanders ive seen fighting us, you can spit on them and they die. WVW is not SPVP.
If what Kalkz was saying was true, then I would agree. But in both WvW and sPvP your build should always be set up for group cohesion and use of combos. That really doesn’t change (You should also have multiple builds ready and the gear depending on what you are doing). For a character with a lot of toughness and healing, he drops like a lead balloon. Maybe some of you folks on Borlis can figure out what he does wrong. I have fought some VERY tanky characters, and Kalkz is not one of them.
That’s so relevant. I think it’s too relevant..
I completely agree, much like the lead balloon, one hit and Kalkz runs away sacrificing every PuG to save his/her own hide.
Much like the title and description of the video suggest, there is a lot of BS flying around in this thread.
we all kind of naturally pick up on the other’s tendencies.
Too true. Today, I watched a Mesmer run up to a tower, cast portal and he popped a group right onto the tower wall. It wasn’t GH but it was another very well known Ebay guild. Was very discouraging to see.
Screen shots, reports sent, etc. etc.
Last checked, portaling itself is not an offense. If a mes hides somewhere and you don’t look for them, it’s perfectly legit. Done it a few times myself on my mes. I find many don’t bother to sweep the single towers. You should. There are nooks and crannies there in some of them too.
Now, if you see anyone going straight up, or through, tower walls or gates. Yes, that be very bad.
Commander to [SLVR], Housepet to [GH]
(edited by KStudios.2850)
Whew, that was intense tonight. pk on one side and AR on the other. I was impressed at the numbers you had on the field tonight AR… you steamrolled us the first round.
Deltona/Varlen – Commander for Borlis Pass
Back on track a little, that honor you speak down upon got me and one of your fellows the skill point and Vista in the ogre camp of EBG around noon earlier today. She and I worked together to get them. I used Shadow Refuge to get the skill point for myself, then aggro’ed and pulled the champ harpy away so she could get it as well. Being enemies does not necessarily mean you have to hate each other.
Glad to see there are people out there on other servers that are like this. Just wish more population of all servers had a lighter heart for those that just want to map and leave…or atleast kill us after the vista, sp, or poi is gotten.
BP → DR → FA → Mag → BP → FA
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
Everyone is bad but me.
Anet ruined Gw2.
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)
Towers and keeps need love too!
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)
Towers and keeps need love too!
Normally you would a point that to win a match you need to defend your real state.
Problem is you get 10 BPs in a tower who refuse to leave vs 1-2 ebayers. Let’s be honest here….that tower is in absolutely zero danger.
That is what facing BP is like.
For all of us at work who’d rather be in WvW instead of pushing paper just remember, even Rytlock gets stuck behind the desk every now and then.
See you on the battle field this evening!
See you in Tyria.
Just wanna make it clear, my previous post wasn’t complaining about PvDooring. It was really a cry of frustration of mindset of AR yesterday. I’m actually a pretty clueless WvWer but even I could see rushing off to Eternal and leaving a weakened AR BL was a bad idea: Hills doors were paper, A small Ebay zerg had tried for about an hour to hit Hills and Bay and Hills again. Kalkz had been seen roaming around checking doors/walls and response times(caught him tagging the door and running from Hills at one point).
But once our force had turned everything back to red AR commanders were licking their chops to rush to Eternal and they did… and then 20 to 30 BP went through the paper doors and two defenders of Hills in 5 mins.
This wasn’t just a single incident. AR does this time and time again. Which led to my frustration.
[KAOS] of Anvil Rock
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)
Towers and keeps need love too!
Normally you would a point that to win a match you need to defend your real state.
Problem is you get 10 BPs in a tower who refuse to leave vs 1-2 ebayers. Let’s be honest here….that tower is in absolutely zero danger.
That is what facing BP is like.
Generally when you see 1-2 Ebayers they are stragglers just trying to catch back up to the herd. 1-2 Ebayers roaming is a pretty rare sight. What the BP defending are probably thinking is you were just luring them out to be zerged.
[KAOS] of Anvil Rock
Now, if you see anyone going straight up, or through, tower walls or gates. Yes, that be very bad.
I know the difference. I retreat fought them all the way across the lake, then for about a minute behind the tower, and with all cool downs popped, I ran into the tower. The Mesmer went straight to the back wall, stood there for about 15 seconds, then cast portal and they all popped onto the wall.
But, I defer to your greater experience, would “sweeping” the tower have fixed that?
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)
Towers and keeps need love too!
Normally you would a point that to win a match you need to defend your real state.
Problem is you get 10 BPs in a tower who refuse to leave vs 1-2 ebayers. Let’s be honest here….that tower is in absolutely zero danger.
That is what facing BP is like.
“Some” BP players are like like we showed the ebay “Nite” crew with the GH commander 5 of wiping 10+ of you guys…. but thats not the issue ya see why fight when ya aint gotta like ya said you posed no real threat to the tower… its wvw not spvp
Sorry AR. someone had to do it for the sake of the Red Valley yesterday. and i dont want to hear a word about PVD because it was at 10 am server time
“i dont know if thats a good time in usa to paly gw2”Kalkz happend i guess
No need to apologize. It was a clean and fair take. No complaints here. But I’d like to point out one thing. You’re claiming you did it for “payback.” And I’m totally fine with that — I’ve always said since the days of Ultima Online — PvP isn’t Player vs Player — its Payback vs Payback.
But the double standard is I’ve read so many posts from you complaining about double team and AR “playing for second.” Since you subscribe to “payback” tactics, and given the very long history BP and AR have — you really should never complain about AR being in your BL. Ever. Even if Ebay in is there too.
[KAOS] of Anvil Rock
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)
Towers and keeps need love too!
Normally you would a point that to win a match you need to defend your real state.
Problem is you get 10 BPs in a tower who refuse to leave vs 1-2 ebayers. Let’s be honest here….that tower is in absolutely zero danger.
That is what facing BP is like.
Generally when you see 1-2 Ebayers they are stragglers just trying to catch back up to the herd. 1-2 Ebayers roaming is a pretty rare sight. What the BP defending are probably thinking is you were just luring them out to be zerged.
or this…
Now, if you see anyone going straight up, or through, tower walls or gates. Yes, that be very bad.
I know the difference. I retreat fought them all the way across the lake, then for about a minute behind the tower, and with all cool downs popped, I ran into the tower. The Mesmer went straight to the back wall, stood there for about 15 seconds, then cast portal and they all popped onto the wall.
But, I defer to your greater experience, would “sweeping” the tower have fixed that?
I assume you’re talking about SW or SE towers in the borderlands. While glitching into them is POSSIBLE, it’s certainly not something that can be done in 15 seconds unless you get EXTREMELY lucky. (For the record, you will never find me or anyone from HAX/GH/any guild I have influence on glitching into towers/keeps to capture them. I do however like to know all the ways to glitch into places so that when other servers are stupid enough to try to glitch into my towers/keeps, I can catch them red handed).
And as a Mesmer who hides inside keeps and towers, you should know that it takes time to bring a force to help retake a tower. Since you mentioned that a group was already stacking up behind the tower, it sounds much more likely that there was a Mesmer already in the tower, and one of the people in the force coming to help retake it happened to be a Mesmer as well. You mistook the Mesmer on the ground as the one that dropped the portal, when there was actually a Mesmer in the tower all along.
So as long as you’re differing to those with greater experience; yes, “sweeping” the tower would have fixed that.
Good Fights [GF] Mesmer
so i heard a rumour about the “AR WvW Guilds/groups Dying and Transferring”
I did not believe it until i saw some of my AR friends ( most from ALS ) in Ebay side in WvW.
and Also a lot of people in AR has been telling me whats going on
AR Y U TRANSFER TO EBAY ? WHY ?
Original Former of Borlis Savers
Leader Of : http://youtube.com/kaotichq
(edited by Kalkz.5297)
Anyone you have seen that has left from AR to another server is/was Irrelevant and had no impact on our WvW progress.
Anyone you have seen that has left from AR to another server is/was Irrelevant and had no impact on our WvW progress.
Pretty sure any bodies AR can get are relevant. Anyways, we accept them with loving and open arms.
WvW progress.
o.o
“dodging saves lives.”
For all of us at work who’d rather be in WvW instead of pushing paper just remember, even Rytlock gets stuck behind the desk every now and then.
See you on the battle field this evening!
You make that picture Expiatus? It’s pretty good, and I suddenly imagine this being Rytlock’s thoughts there:
“Filling out paperwork…could be impaling Flame Legion right now.”
PvE Main – Zar Poisonclaw – Daredevil
WvW Main – Ghost Mistcaller – Herald
Anyone you have seen that has left from AR to another server is/was Irrelevant and had no impact on our WvW progress.
Pretty sure any bodies AR can get are relevant. Anyways, we accept them with loving and open arms.
WvW progress.
o.o
AR has come a long way over the last few months, you’re free to draw conclusions on what we are/were based on that but it’s the truth. We’re really burdened by numbers restrictions but we’ve climbed to our meager position without any large influx of transfers, so yes we do have progressed in terms of WvW ability but we’re not claiming to be any sort of powerhouse. That being said, we have lost a good number of players recently, including a few prominent ones who were leaders in terms of getting the PuGs to perform upkeep on our towers so we’re going to miss them (bradderz… I miss our morning yak walks hand in weird asura meat claw), but we’ve lost plenty of prominent players and guilds in the past and it’s always just a temporary setback.
I mean, any OG AR will remember the ARC and it’s rise and fall. kitten piles on and the determined/crazy/stupid AR regulars such as myself will keep on keeping on.
That being said, I know a lot of AR guys wouldn’t mind dropping a tier. This matchu kitten tale as three month old bread and as it stands the most likely change we’re going to see is us dropping. If that’s what has to happen, so be it. If a T4 guild falls and EBay goes up, I’m willing to bet it’d be more of the same if not worse than the current situation so whatever change in the matchup comes I’d rather see it sooner than later.
AR → EB → DB → Maguuma
Arkham – [Ark]
There is no progress in Tier 5. This is World War 1, where we are locked in a bloody stalemate for .1% of rank increase .
Maguuma
For all of us at work who’d rather be in WvW instead of pushing paper just remember, even Rytlock gets stuck behind the desk every now and then.
See you on the battle field this evening!
You make that picture Expiatus? It’s pretty good, and I suddenly imagine this being Rytlock’s thoughts there:
“Filling out paperwork…could be impaling Flame Legion right now.”
That Flame Legion guy in CoF P1 that glitches and says warn the tribune over and over? He meant to warn him about an incorrectly filed Flaming Effigy Requisition Form, or FERF as they’re called in Flame Legion offices. Gotta be careful with those FERFs.
AR → EB → DB → Maguuma
Arkham – [Ark]
Anyone you have seen that has left from AR to another server is/was Irrelevant and had no impact on our WvW progress.
Pretty sure any bodies AR can get are relevant. Anyways, we accept them with loving and open arms.
WvW progress.
o.o
AR has come a long way over the last few months, you’re free to draw conclusions on what we are/were based on that but it’s the truth. We’re really burdened by numbers restrictions but we’ve climbed to our meager position without any large influx of transfers, so yes we do have progressed in terms of WvW ability but we’re not claiming to be any sort of powerhouse. That being said, we have lost a good number of players recently, including a few prominent ones who were leaders in terms of getting the PuGs to perform upkeep on our towers so we’re going to miss them (bradderz… I miss our morning yak walks hand in weird asura meat claw), but we’ve lost plenty of prominent players and guilds in the past and it’s always just a temporary setback.
I mean, any OG AR will remember the ARC and it’s rise and fall. kitten piles on and the determined/crazy/stupid AR regulars such as myself will keep on keeping on.
That being said, I know a lot of AR guys wouldn’t mind dropping a tier. This matchu kitten tale as three month old bread and as it stands the most likely change we’re going to see is us dropping. If that’s what has to happen, so be it. If a T4 guild falls and EBay goes up, I’m willing to bet it’d be more of the same if not worse than the current situation so whatever change in the matchup comes I’d rather see it sooner than later.
No argument there, I just find it funny how he shrugs off losing bodies as irrelevant.
“dodging saves lives.”
Anyone you have seen that has left from AR to another server is/was Irrelevant and had no impact on our WvW progress.
Pretty sure any bodies AR can get are relevant. Anyways, we accept them with loving and open arms.
WvW progress.
o.o
AR has come a long way over the last few months, you’re free to draw conclusions on what we are/were based on that but it’s the truth. We’re really burdened by numbers restrictions but we’ve climbed to our meager position without any large influx of transfers, so yes we do have progressed in terms of WvW ability but we’re not claiming to be any sort of powerhouse. That being said, we have lost a good number of players recently, including a few prominent ones who were leaders in terms of getting the PuGs to perform upkeep on our towers so we’re going to miss them (bradderz… I miss our morning yak walks hand in weird asura meat claw), but we’ve lost plenty of prominent players and guilds in the past and it’s always just a temporary setback.
I mean, any OG AR will remember the ARC and it’s rise and fall. kitten piles on and the determined/crazy/stupid AR regulars such as myself will keep on keeping on.
That being said, I know a lot of AR guys wouldn’t mind dropping a tier. This matchu kitten tale as three month old bread and as it stands the most likely change we’re going to see is us dropping. If that’s what has to happen, so be it. If a T4 guild falls and EBay goes up, I’m willing to bet it’d be more of the same if not worse than the current situation so whatever change in the matchup comes I’d rather see it sooner than later.
No argument there, I just find it funny how he shrugs off losing bodies as irrelevant.
Just because it’s happened before. We seem to get plenty of new people to fill what we lose in time. It’s not like we had a mass exodus (yet).
AR → EB → DB → Maguuma
Arkham – [Ark]
So as long as you’re differing to those with greater experience; yes, “sweeping” the tower would have fixed that.
Fox, I’ve already stated it wasn’t GH. And I didn’t confuse anything. There were not two Mesmers. There was no pre-stacking. The group that was on my behind as I barely made it inside the tower ran to the back wall with the single Mesmer and he ported them in.
The guild in question apparently didn’t learn anything from the last run-in they had with ArenaNet.
The only reason Ehmry didn’t do well in tier 4 before was because of Yaks/Maguuma. Now that both of them are in tier 3, I think Ehmry can easily win tier 4.
Anvil Rock Attrition and Deserters
WAR isn’t overly concerned about the guild defections which recently occurred, because we have seen it before. It is a process which will only make us stronger to be honest.
WAR has developed over the last year into a disciplined guild with a strategic focus. But at the same time, we enjoy tactical engagement on the field. We respect our opponents, and look to learn from them all. Currently at about 230 members, WAR is looking for solid recruits from our PVP and SPVP communities who can make us stronger in WvW.
Those recruits might come from another server eventually. But no matter what happens, WAR is sticking with AR and is looking for a fight. Bring it…
Oh yeah, I’m back…
WarLords [WAR] and PeaceTrain [MERC] (AR)
Founder and Guild Leader
The only reason Ehmry didn’t do well in tier 4 before was because of Yaks/Maguuma. Now that both of them are in tier 3, I think Ehmry can easily win tier 4.
I tend to blame CD’s massive see presence. Which is not something we necessarily could have countered at that time. Humorous in that I’m now far more confident in our abilities, and yet at the same time the rumor mill has it that much of that sea presence has dissipated. A good chance we shall yet see.
Commander to [SLVR], Housepet to [GH]
There is no progress in Tier 5. This is World War 1, where we are locked in a bloody stalemate for .1% of rank increase .
Sure seems like it doesn’t it. Its not even about who’s better any more, just would be nice to beat some new faces.
Whipping Boy of Grindhouse Gaming [GH]
The only reason Ehmry didn’t do well in tier 4 before was because of Yaks/Maguuma. Now that both of them are in tier 3, I think Ehmry can easily win tier 4.
I don’t know about easily, but with CD claiming a reduced SEA presence I’d say we have a decent shot.
Feel bad for AR and BP losing fair weather players though due to this locked matchup. I know they don’t represent your core, but the pug numbers do help… We’ve experienced the same thing in the past, you recover but it still sucks.
On the matchup news front, there has been a dev response to that cry for help in T1 EU claiming that they are testing a change to the scoring system and that we will see it in live likely within the month. The goal is to provide greater volatility to the scoring and hopefully fix stuck matches like ours (and T6’s… I don’t know if anyone else has noticed but their scoring evolution is going in roughly the same arc as T5 did when we fist got there, they stand to get stuck right where they are fairly easily barring a blowout in both T5 and T6 on the same week resulting in a move)
Hopefully everyone can just hang on until this happens and then we can have some fresh matchups!
Ehmry Bay – The Rally Bot Vortex [VOID]
This has to be the most boring match up continual in history. Anet needs to manually change who fights who or base it on wins/losses I’m tired of fighting tower huggers.
tower hugging is part and parcel of the game this is not SPVP towers / Keeps and camps are where the points are so hugging a tower is essential after all some of them do get lonely. Fighting in open field is fun and all but at the end of the day those towers and keeps are what gives you points using the guards for an advantage is something every server does including Ehmry there been many of times ive beaten guys and they know they cant do the same to me so they try to lure me to guards to get an advantage especially thieves they will use any advantage they can get (Not like they need 1 8k backstabs constant blinds stealth BAH!!)
Towers and keeps need love too!
I’m not trying to take your towers or keeps, I’m here for the loot. It’s true, sPvP isn’t WvW, but that doesn’t mean the mindset should be specifically about hiding in towers/keeps because of ones fear of being zerged or the structure being taken. This is one of the reasons why the skill gap between Ebay and BP is that significant, I will jump down and fight outnumbered, where as BP will sit and spam AC’s. Justifying “hiding” when you have more people is impossible.
Everyone is bad but me.
Anet ruined Gw2.
@ekleenex
The are irrelevant.
We don’t need any kind of number to have fun.
I wouldn’t mind dropping a tier or two. I miss the time with NSP where we could roam around and fight in small group. Now it’s all about zerg.
Borderland get boring because you have few roamers, and one big native zerg going around.
Eternal Battleground is zergy too, but you also have freaking siege hitting you everywhere you go. You have to fight knowing that half your HP will be gone via random siege hitting you.
I’m really wondering what kind of player stay 1-2 hour on a cannon shooting people. How boring is it?
BP, nice fight in your BL yesterday evening. Your zerg overextended and it was fun when it happened.
Server : Anvil Rock (Since Release!) [SOLO]
So as long as you’re differing to those with greater experience; yes, “sweeping” the tower would have fixed that.
Fox, I’ve already stated it wasn’t GH. And I didn’t confuse anything. There were not two Mesmers. There was no pre-stacking. The group that was on my behind as I barely made it inside the tower ran to the back wall with the single Mesmer and he ported them in.
The guild in question apparently didn’t learn anything from the last run-in they had with ArenaNet.
You did say it wasn’t my guild, but you’re still accusing my server of cheating. Glitching into towers isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is, and it’s not something you can do in 15 seconds. Combine that with the fact that the last time somebody accused one of our guilds of foul play (botting) was because they didn’t know what /dance * did, and you can see why I think you’re wrong.
And you’re allowed to name names you know. I had no problem doing it when Kalkz used Mesmers to glitch into Hills, and you can certainly say the guild name that was involved so something can be done about it.
Good Fights [GF] Mesmer
@ekleenex
The are irrelevant.
We don’t need any kind of number to have fun.
I wouldn’t mind dropping a tier or two. I miss the time with NSP where we could roam around and fight in small group. Now it’s all about zerg.
Borderland get boring because you have few roamers, and one big native zerg going around.
Eternal Battleground is zergy too, but you also have freaking siege hitting you everywhere you go. You have to fight knowing that half your HP will be gone via random siege hitting you.
I’m really wondering what kind of player stay 1-2 hour on a cannon shooting people. How boring is it?
BP, nice fight in your BL yesterday evening. Your zerg overextended and it was fun when it happened.
I can’t really take a small man roamers opinion on server population seriously, of course it’s irrelevant to you. I remember back in the NSP/AR/BP match up groups of 10 were considered zergs, pleaseeeeeee. Go watch some T1-T3 videos and tell me how big and mean T5 is. Also, I’m sure you could spend a relaxing week in PvE and save the big gold to transfer to T8 where all the small mans play and have good fights in the ruins and high five er’night. But be careful from what I’ve heard there are pretty insane zergs in T8 too.
Pretty sure Anvil as a whole wants to evolve and become a contender in higher tiers, as does every server. I said losing bodies doesn’t help Anvil, and I’m pretty sure there is no argument to counter that. I don’t blame AR for wanting to temporarily drop a tier and get back some of the fair weathers, nobody in this tier belongs where they are at currently. I didn’t say anything about AR not having fun, you can still frolic around behind the windmill flip south camp or whatever solo roamers do in WvW these days.
“dodging saves lives.”
Great fights with BP and Ebay this weekend. Looking forward to the rest of the week. Keep up the fun battles.
Everyone has a plan ’till they get punched in the mouth. ~ Mike Tyson
So as long as you’re differing to those with greater experience; yes, “sweeping” the tower would have fixed that.
Fox, I’ve already stated it wasn’t GH. And I didn’t confuse anything. There were not two Mesmers. There was no pre-stacking. The group that was on my behind as I barely made it inside the tower ran to the back wall with the single Mesmer and he ported them in.
The guild in question apparently didn’t learn anything from the last run-in they had with ArenaNet.
You did say it wasn’t my guild, but you’re still accusing my server of cheating. Glitching into towers isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is, and it’s not something you can do in 15 seconds. Combine that with the fact that the last time somebody accused one of our guilds of foul play (botting) was because they didn’t know what /dance * did, and you can see why I think you’re wrong.
And you’re allowed to name names you know. I had no problem doing it when Kalkz used Mesmers to glitch into Hills, and you can certainly say the guild name that was involved so something can be done about it.
Brother, I have many faces. the nice face, the very rude face, the troll face
but the glitching and cheating face isnt one of my faces
Kalkz glitches
Kalkz PVD
Screen shot Kalkz convos
Make a guild about Kalkz
Hunt Kalkz in wvw
Night crew for Kalkz
What the hell is wrong with your server
Original Former of Borlis Savers
Leader Of : http://youtube.com/kaotichq
so i heard a rumour about the “AR WvW Guilds/groups Dying and Transferring”
I did not believe it until i saw some of my AR friends ( most from ALS ) in Ebay side in WvW.
and Also a lot of people in AR has been telling me whats going on
AR Y U TRANSFER TO EBAY ? WHY ?
Because Ye has yet to provide unto me answers now for these questions three!
What is your name?…
What is your Quest?…
What will it take to get you to fight club duel me?…
Actually for that matter where have you been? I haven’t seen your toon for a while unless you changed your armor dye.
You did say it wasn’t my guild, but you’re still accusing my server of cheating. Glitching into towers isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is, and it’s not something you can do in 15 seconds. Combine that with the fact that the last time somebody accused one of our guilds of foul play (botting) was because they didn’t know what /dance * did, and you can see why I think you’re wrong.
And you’re allowed to name names you know. I had no problem doing it when Kalkz used Mesmers to glitch into Hills, and you can certainly say the guild name that was involved so something can be done about it.
Fox, you are right, I know absolutely nothing about glitching into towers. But, I am fascinated by your apparent knowledge. Please enlighten.
Edit: And while I had absolutely nothing to do with it, I know it wasn’t “dance” that ArenaNet acted on. Please.
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@ekleenex
The are irrelevant.
We don’t need any kind of number to have fun.
I wouldn’t mind dropping a tier or two. I miss the time with NSP where we could roam around and fight in small group. Now it’s all about zerg.
Borderland get boring because you have few roamers, and one big native zerg going around.
Eternal Battleground is zergy too, but you also have freaking siege hitting you everywhere you go. You have to fight knowing that half your HP will be gone via random siege hitting you.
I’m really wondering what kind of player stay 1-2 hour on a cannon shooting people. How boring is it?
BP, nice fight in your BL yesterday evening. Your zerg overextended and it was fun when it happened.
I can’t really take a small man roamers opinion on server population seriously, of course it’s irrelevant to you. I remember back in the NSP/AR/BP match up groups of 10 were considered zergs, pleaseeeeeee. Go watch some T1-T3 videos and tell me how big and mean T5 is. Also, I’m sure you could spend a relaxing week in PvE and save the big gold to transfer to T8 where all the small mans play and have good fights in the ruins and high five er’night. But be careful from what I’ve heard there are pretty insane zergs in T8 too.
Pretty sure Anvil as a whole wants to evolve and become a contender in higher tiers, as does every server. I said losing bodies doesn’t help Anvil, and I’m pretty sure there is no argument to counter that. I don’t blame AR for wanting to temporarily drop a tier and get back some of the fair weathers, nobody in this tier belongs where they are at currently. I didn’t say anything about AR not having fun, you can still frolic around behind the windmill flip south camp or whatever solo roamers do in WvW these days.
For Anvil Rock to get pass those tier, we would need an influx of new players to have more coverage and a steadier force.
I don’t remember the last time Anvil Rock did a recruitement thread, or even wished we had more player.
I’m sure a good portion a our player would love to get in higher tier. But there are no use in that. Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.
I’m pretty sure those player that you picked up, will switch back to another server once they start losing. They prolly did that before Anvil Rock too.
As long as our player base stay the same, I don’t think we lose anything. Anything that is worth it. As long as we have Dolvgan.
Oh about what solo roamers do those day, we usually kill your strangler. You know your players that are used to beat random zerg of pugs while they have a coordinate group on TS.
They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.
I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.
Server : Anvil Rock (Since Release!) [SOLO]
That being said, I know a lot of AR guys wouldn’t mind dropping a tier. This matchu kitten tale as three month old bread and as it stands the most likely change we’re going to see is us dropping. If that’s what has to happen, so be it. If a T4 guild falls and EBay goes up, I’m willing to bet it’d be more of the same if not worse than the current situation so whatever change in the matchup comes I’d rather see it sooner than later.
To be honest, I think you guys would be slightly surprised about a matchup with CD. When we were in T4, we held our own against CD pretty consistently. Since we have dropped, not only have we developed a small (but effective) nighttime presence, they have also lost a few of their powerhouse guilds. I really think you guys would have closer fights against CD than these fights have been.
Menorah | Charr Cat | Some Cat Thing
Still running my old RRR build because why not
You did say it wasn’t my guild, but you’re still accusing my server of cheating. Glitching into towers isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is, and it’s not something you can do in 15 seconds. Combine that with the fact that the last time somebody accused one of our guilds of foul play (botting) was because they didn’t know what /dance * did, and you can see why I think you’re wrong.
And you’re allowed to name names you know. I had no problem doing it when Kalkz used Mesmers to glitch into Hills, and you can certainly say the guild name that was involved so something can be done about it.
Fox, you are right, I know absolutely nothing about glitching into towers. But, I am fascinated by your apparent knowledge. Please enlighten.
Edit: And while I had absolutely nothing to do with it, I know it wasn’t “dance” that ArenaNet acted on. Please.
There’s actually quite a long list of exploits, and despite reporting them to ANet with videos multiple times, they still aren’t being fixed.
Menorah | Charr Cat | Some Cat Thing
Still running my old RRR build because why not
Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.
Lol. I don’t even..
They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.
I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.
Small man syndrome once again, anything more then 1-5 is a zerg, typical low tier mentality. All I can say is beating on 60+ man groups is a lot more enjoyable then playing paddy cake with small man in some remote corner of the map. And congratulations, you picked off someone who is running a support build trying to go stomp actual zergs with their guild. Nobody cares about your 1v1 small man prowess. But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them. But the ones who post on here are, humorous. It’s almost like PAXA, except worse.
“dodging saves lives.”
Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.
Lol. I don’t even..
They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.
I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.
Small man syndrome once again, anything more then 1-5 is a zerg, typical low tier mentality. All I can say is beating on 60+ man groups is a lot more enjoyable then playing paddy cake with small man in some remote corner of the map. And congratulations, you picked off someone who is running a support build trying to go stomp actual zergs with their guild. Nobody cares about your 1v1 small man prowess. But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them. But the ones who post on here are, humorous. It’s almost like PAXA, except worse.
There will always be small man/solo fights in WvW, that’s just open world PvP. On the other hand if that small man/solo is coordinating with a commander. Misdirecting traffic on the enemy side, capping points/camps. They are pretty useful.
Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.
Lol. I don’t even..
They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.
I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.
Small man syndrome once again, anything more then 1-5 is a zerg, typical low tier mentality. All I can say is beating on 60+ man groups is a lot more enjoyable then playing paddy cake with small man in some remote corner of the map. And congratulations, you picked off someone who is running a support build trying to go stomp actual zergs with their guild. Nobody cares about your 1v1 small man prowess. But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them. But the ones who post on here are, humorous. It’s almost like PAXA, except worse.
Roamers contribute to WvW just fine. They are often the ones feeding commanders scouting reports, denying supply at crucial times while the larger groups hammer it out in other places. If no one cares about someones 1vX prowess then no one equally cares about a guilds 20 vs X prowess.
But the fact is people like different aspects of WvW. You dig the big fights, Kardiamond digs the smaller. Big guild ego is no better than small man syndrome.
[KAOS] of Anvil Rock
Roamers contribute to WvW just fine. They are often the ones feeding commanders scouting reports, denying supply at crucial times while the larger groups hammer it out in other places.
He didn’t say that roamers don’t contribute, he said:
But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them.
His point is that this isn’t sPvP, it’s WvW. It’s designed for large encounters. Small groups and solo roamers serve a valuable purpose, but boasting about a 1337 1v1 build downing a support build that is structured to fight large groups, feed off of allies skills and counter multiple enemies is not something that anyone cares about here. It’s comparing apples to oranges, they are two different things and thus not directly related. It doesn’t prove one player’s skill over another, it only proves one person is building to fight single targets while the other is building to be a factor of amplification in a larger machine.
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helo everyone!!! CHAR is back and we are making a more bigger WvW impact than ever!!!!! we have recently expanded and are looking forward to fiting all of u on the battle field!!! here is a recent group photo of us. I can’t wait 2 c u guys out there!!!! looking forward to fighting more quality players from ebay!! for all u naysayer we actually do care about WvW point despite wat all the trolls say.
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