Guild Wars 2

This week is really well started ! Nice fights, glad to see Viz improved a lot in open field.

Hope that lag delay ll be fix soon. Glam mesmer with glam skill having 25sec lag delay = meh

Cant wait for march update if..

Tygra.4570:

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Dont want to trakittenalk Elona but SFr is in for a fight…
Elona wasnt really tbh.

Elona crushes T2 like SFR did last week and doesn’t need to bring 3 guilds from an opposing server. Show them some respect, they are a T1 server along with SFR Deso and Viz.

If I remember correctly Elona had always a lot of ppl during weekend, T1 before or probably in T2 now. Don’t know about 2 other servers strength, but let’s see how it goes during the week.

Koven Acris.5236:

Your commenting on the basis that the scoreline reflects actual ability – it doesn’t

Just wanted to do a quick informative point for those who still don’t understand what the 3W is. Let’s ask Merriam-Webster what “score” means:

Score: number that expresses accomplishment (as in a game or test) or excellence (as in quality)

Oh, that’s right.. It’s a GAME, where the goal is to maximize your score, score whose definition is an integral part of that game.
If you think the score doesn’t matter, you are not playing 3W, and you may as well post in another forum.

Charmide.4891:

Koven Acris.5236:

Your commenting on the basis that the scoreline reflects actual ability – it doesn’t

Just wanted to do a quick informative point for those who still don’t understand what the 3W is. Let’s ask Merriam-Webster what “score” means:

Score: number that expresses accomplishment (as in a game or test) or excellence (as in quality)

Oh, that’s right.. It’s a GAME, where the goal is to maximize your score, score whose definition is an integral part of that game.
If you think the score doesn’t matter, you are not playing 3W, and you may as well post in another forum.

WRONG! Score does not matter with the current scoring system .It’s like 2 football teams on a field,but one playing 90 minutes doing 3-0 but after 90 min it leaves the camp and the other continues to score goal after goal.But whatever makes you feel good about “winning”

Football is 90 minutes.
Rugby is 80 minutes.
Basketball is 40 minutes.
WwW is 168 hours.

graverr.6473:

Charmide.4891:

Koven Acris.5236:

Your commenting on the basis that the scoreline reflects actual ability – it doesn’t

Just wanted to do a quick informative point for those who still don’t understand what the 3W is. Let’s ask Merriam-Webster what “score” means:

Score: number that expresses accomplishment (as in a game or test) or excellence (as in quality)

Oh, that’s right.. It’s a GAME, where the goal is to maximize your score, score whose definition is an integral part of that game.
If you think the score doesn’t matter, you are not playing 3W, and you may as well post in another forum.

WRONG! Score does not matter with the current scoring system .It’s like 2 football teams on a field,but one playing 90 minutes doing 3-0 but after 90 min it leaves the camp and the other continues to score goal after goal.But whatever makes you feel good about “winning”

You entirely missed the point.
It’s the score. It matters. It’s fundamental to the game. You accept it when you play the game, you don’t fantasize your own rules to make it so you are winning.

There is no “right” or “wrong”.
If the score was how many chickens each server kills, it would be stupid, but it would still be the score.

If you don’t accept it, don’t play 3W, stop whining and inventing yourselves your own rules to declare yourself the best.
Because there is no “winning” or “losing”, just winning or losing.

What ultranawak said.
The correct analogy with your case would be a football player losing a game and then saying “score doesn’t matter, our game was way better than the other team’s game in the first period, so you know, we don’t care, our ability to play football is way better than yours, even if we keep losing”.
NOPE.

3W is about having maximum points at the end of the week.
Football is about scoring goals during those 90 mins.

Sorry but i have no fun winning ONLY when i have no opposition.

So for me the game is not about staying 24 hours awake waiting for everybody to go to sleep.

Intigo.1653:

Krosan.2890:

So basically Deso and Sfr are holding hands again? And proceed to troll on these forums since they got a bunch of bandwagoners again and are trying to erase the last failure Sfr had?
Its funny how every server gets a huge arrogance boost everytime they make it back to T1 with the prime example being SFR.

A few people cata’ing a wall together does not an alliance make. During the entirety of Saturday we fought Desolation tons of times in Seafarer’s Rest Borderlands, losing and retaking Hills a number of times during the day/night. They wiped us a fair number of times as well, much unlike the French.

There is very little, if any, “hand-holding” and a ton of fighting. Some of the most insane action we’ve seen in a while.

People should really get a grip. There is no need to cry about scores or ‘lack of skill’ when the fights are this crazy. If anything, you should devote your attention to ArenaNet so they might spend a little more time worrying about skill delay and rubber-banding.

Have to agree with this. [FG] was on SFR borderlands from 8pm GMT last night for a good well over 9 hours. I believe a good 6 of them hours we were the only guild on the map that had numbers and we had very few pugs to aid us. 70% of our time on the border was facing SFR, we rarely even fought Vizunah other than the failed attempts of trying to ninja keeps whilst Deso and SFR were fighting.

tagnut.8621:

Every other short-sighted forum warrior thats been in T1 has commented that

Fixed.

You don’t stay in T1 for all those months by only opening doors at night.
It would be stupid to think so.

And all those badges of honors I get make me smile about your “skillwise”, which I can only asume is relating to a UT99-deathmatch-let’sjustgetsomekills aspect of the game.

On previous pages is a prime example of this “skill” when we anihilate two groups of 30+ guys of both servers with huge guilds, who work together to take a tower, because they just fail tactically on a scale I’ve never seen before.

Charmide.4891:

Koven Acris.5236:

Your commenting on the basis that the scoreline reflects actual ability – it doesn’t

Just wanted to do a quick informative point for those who still don’t understand what the 3W is. Let’s ask Merriam-Webster what “score” means:

Score: number that expresses accomplishment (as in a game or test) or excellence (as in quality)

Oh, that’s right.. It’s a GAME, where the goal is to maximize your score, score whose definition is an integral part of that game.
If you think the score doesn’t matter, you are not playing 3W, and you may as well post in another forum.

You’re complete kitten XD Most players play this game to have good and challenging fights. You seem to only play to cap objectives and be on a arrowcart 24/7 in order to defend it. Skill is determined by who wins fights, not by who has the most arrowcarts in a keep.

Zumos.2056:

You’re complete kitten XD Most players play this game to have good and challenging fights. You seem to only play to cap objectives and be on a arrowcart 24/7 in order to defend it. Skill is determined by who wins fights, not by who has the most arrowcarts in a keep.

Did I say anything about “skill”?
You can be here “for the good fight”, just don’t say that you are the best at 3W after that. Avoiding to cap objectives and just looking for kills is just dumb.
Because 3W is about the score, which take into accounts the fights and who win them, ie. tactics, but also strategy, which is the true heart of this game mode, and where I get the fun from.
The rest is GvG. It matters, but it’s not central.

WL understand this. Big difference.

Zumos.2056:

Charmide.4891:

Koven Acris.5236:

Your commenting on the basis that the scoreline reflects actual ability – it doesn’t

Just wanted to do a quick informative point for those who still don’t understand what the 3W is. Let’s ask Merriam-Webster what “score” means:

Score: number that expresses accomplishment (as in a game or test) or excellence (as in quality)

Oh, that’s right.. It’s a GAME, where the goal is to maximize your score, score whose definition is an integral part of that game.
If you think the score doesn’t matter, you are not playing 3W, and you may as well post in another forum.

You’re complete kitten XD Most players play this game to have good and challenging fights. You seem to only play to cap objectives and be on a arrowcart 24/7 in order to defend it. Skill is determined by who wins fights, not by who has the most arrowcarts in a keep.

Don’t worry for us, we have fun in game.
Or we wouldn’t be playing, trust me. We’re French, not stupid.

Charmide.4891:

Zumos.2056:

You’re complete kitten XD Most players play this game to have good and challenging fights. You seem to only play to cap objectives and be on a arrowcart 24/7 in order to defend it. Skill is determined by who wins fights, not by who has the most arrowcarts in a keep.

Did I say anything about “skill”?
You can be here “for the good fight”, just don’t say that you are the best at 3W after that.
Because 3W is about the score, which take into accounts the fights and who win them, ie. tactics, but also strategy, which is the true heart of this game mode, and where I get the fun from.
The rest is GvG. It matters, but it’s not central.

WL understand this. Big difference.

You must have a brain to understand this. RG just know “Charge – repack – charge”
Don’t ask them to have some world strategy and map strategy.
That’s why they loose all the time and go T2/T3.

Hey all

Since reset we have had very nice fights in WvW. Especially we had much fun with guys from BOON, Velocity, siN,Option and RIOT on different borderlands. The fights yesterday with BOON ( Katie <3 ) on Vizunah Borderlands in the Vizunah garrison against Golden Horde from Desolation were epic. Hopefully this week will continue like the day before. Desolation has a lot of good guilds like IRON or VotF. Vizunah is very hard to defeat, with a good organized group, because they have a large amount of players in their zergs (nothing against the players of Vizunah).

Especially we hope Anet can fix the problems with internet connections and delays.

Have a great day and we will see us on the borderlands

tagnut.8621:

Every other server thats been in T1 has commented that, skillwise, viz is the weakest t1 server

Maybe because we are the only one mainly pugs ?
But we are better at the overall skill, devotion for our server and objectives (no no dude, this is not bags), that’s why we are still in T1 despite your ex-PvD superbagsfarmers.

Btw Vz only bonus still is their usa/canadian guilds ! I have to give it ot Desolation though GH fight amazing and two times they surprised us after we cleaned some big zergs and all our skills wre on cd and we were looting the bags And we had our hilarious moments with Desolation attacking t3 hills on their borderland next to each other at the end they took it from Vz so that worked for us!

6 months after, there is still people believing we have canadian players or guilds, and still do not understand our commanders/players sometimes play 10h+ hours because they do not want to surrender

Troma.3250:

6 months after, there is still people believing we have canadian players or guilds, and still do not understand our commanders/players sometimes play 10h+ hours because they do not want to surrender

Lmao .So in your opinion the servers that uterly destroy you during primetime are SURRENDERING? just because they have have some RL ?Oooookay

On the other side ,how come you get to play 10+hours a day and still get so wasted on pair by guys that play a lot less ?

destroy…. rofl. Not even in 2v1 format you don’t destroy anything. More rage plz seeing your destroyer server is losing.

For above, VS is very good at playing WvW game. Oh wait, don’t we talk in the WvW forum part about WvW match-up? It must be the twilight zone.

Alot of enjoyable fights on Deso border this afternoon, enjoyed the cat and mouse with ZD’s when I came on to command. Some good fights there with you guys as always.

thanks for the action and fun.

Vizunah is at least the best server at something, but it’s only time zone coverage ^^

@tagnut: Blacktide was a great server, nothing more to say. But sorry you do not remember well for SFR : it was balanced. it was something like 4/3, they won, we won, they won, we won, etc. And sometimes, it wasnt done until friday !

@Truebanana: well, if you still believe it’s only this, it’s good for us

tagnut.8621:

Actually you can. Remember when Blacktide had a night crew? you lost repeatedly. Remember when SFR had a token night force – you lost repeatedly. You clear over 50% of your points from offpeak.

Skillwise viz are not T1 standard.

I’ll remember that when I /dance over your body because of a brilliant manoeuvre of one of your lead.

Between 8pm and 11pm only, of course. Doesn’t count if it’s not there.

@tagnut i made some research, please verify what you say before.

Bye Blacktide /sadwave

It ll be very hard for Viz to teach their pug/casual players to be farmed from 7pm to 3am every single day like PVE mobs. Im not sure they all have fun PVD early @ morning, lots of QQ in your chat atm as i am told.

March update ll be a good test to see if you pugs ll mass xfer to enjoy the new content.

Also, if one day a NA guild come back to SFR or even Deso, Viz may never enjoy T1 anymore even if they still have that amazing rp dedication.

True story.

Gl

Typical Viz bashing. Lets look at it.

Viz are the best at time coverage, they are the best at defence(sometimes helped by fov), they are brilliantly organised, they have good numbers at all times, they have some great small guilds that are constantly sniping dolly’’s, quagans and camps. They have a few very good larger guilds like WL and Mos and others.

Yeh they are maybe not the best at open field battles at all times, But overall they are the best server as they regularly win tier one.

I don’t agree with all their tactics for obvious reasons. But the whole server cannot be blamed for these.

Hopefully deso will be able to recruit and compete with Viz’s coverage one day, then it will be interesting to see how we fair.

As for Sf, alot of top guilds, another super server built on the core that was Sfr. Both servers are stronger than Deso atm, especially numbers wise, we still rarely have queue’s. Anyway hopefully we can concentrate on the fighting rather than the forum bashing this week.

Thank’s, Offski. To be honest, we speak sometimes about IRON in Grand Cross, and we find your dedication so cool, even when Desolation was not good at all you stayed here. You are not a server jumpers, you try to build things yourself, like us. Except few IRON haters, we really like you.

@Lani: you said it all. Na guild. The main problem with this, it’s that using fresh players by day fighting tired night players playing just with high morale. Its not balanced at all.

For example, Ryuji of Confrérie de Dun Dagda [CDD], Grand Cross guild, leaded troops for 11 hours today. Just because he do not want to surrender. Just because hes angry with the Viz bashing. You give him energy everytime you kitten on us.

Some really should learn humility and respect. In sport, videogames (like esport) or other competitive things, when the team or player is on top, i have nothing but respect and admiration. Ex : in rugby the All Blacks. Even if its France adversary, i respect them for their skill.

I thinked the same for (All)Blacktide and tried to find strategy to beat them a lot, but never spit on them. It’s called, again, the Respect. Be a man, not a kid. Respect your enemy

So we are the All Blacks ?

Cool

Edit = Lol fight @ SFR border WL+LP+Fr VS RG+Sin wat

Hmm Blacktide were the All Blacks ! you are the English for me ! huhu

Troma.3250:

Hmm Blacktide were the All Blacks ! you are the English for me ! huhu

Thats offensive to ever be called english especially when half the server isn’t

Come on, the English are bloody brilliant people

I was joking kingkillar… i know there is a lot of different country… and English rox it was a referal of France/England in Rugby, strong rivalty but respect

Thank you so much Desolation for that awesome 15minute fight at Bluevale. It was one of the most amazing (and most profitable) fights I’ve ever had!

Troma.3250:

Thank’s, Offski. To be honest, we speak sometimes about IRON in Grand Cross, and we find your dedication so cool, even when Desolation was not good at all you stayed here. You are not a server jumpers, you try to build things yourself, like us. Except few IRON haters, we really like you.

@Lani: you said it all. Na guild. The main problem with this, it’s that using fresh players by day fighting tired night players playing just with high morale. Its not balanced at all.

For example, Ryuji of Confrérie de Dun Dagda [CDD], Grand Cross guild, leaded troops for 11 hours today. Just because he do not want to surrender. Just because hes angry with the Viz bashing. You give him energy everytime you kitten on us.

Some really should learn humility and respect. In sport, videogames (like esport) or other competitive things, when the team or player is on top, i have nothing but respect and admiration. Ex : in rugby the All Blacks. Even if its France adversary, i respect them for their skill.

I thinked the same for (All)Blacktide and tried to find strategy to beat them a lot, but never spit on them. It’s called, again, the Respect. Be a man, not a kid. Respect your enemy

There are no pacts between lions and men!!

Vizunah have a very good organisation, coverage and good defence. And that sets them appart from the other servers. Consequently, they play the game and have better score that everyone else.
As for dedication, who has a better dedication, a gamer that has the luxury of being able to spend a lot of time in front of the computer playing or a gamer that despite all RL responsibilities still plays and is able to contribute to his or her server?
I would just prefer fairer tactics instead of deliberate 2V1 and less QQ /hate all around.
If anyone gets a cheater, just report him or her through the suitable channels.

See you in Eternal Battlegrounds, looking forward for your badges:)

Sorry friend , but your memory is mixing thing. I never paste your chat on public forum, it was another players. i never sent people to your chat to spie. To tell you all i even made a little internal war to troll and spies, i even got angry to a big troller.

Upperground.6849:

… “banter” …

While I do agree with you about all these posts being banter, there is one thing you forget : sadly (for this topic), English isn’t the main language of many european players. And French people are especially bad at speaking English.
Thus, most of the messages are purely superficial and read superficially. Whenever you try some irony, it goes well above the heads of everyone (even the mods).
People take things seriously, and everything escalates.

Nobody here speaks for the whole of VS (or Deso or SFR for that matter). “VS” doesn’t get offended, doesn’t ask for respect, doesn’t respect.
For me, all the trakittenalking on the forum just helps building the momentum. It fuelled (and fuels) VS players reading the topic, probably as much as it fuels the other server’s players.
It’s part of the game

jiddo.8041:

Troma.3250:

…

I lolled at the sfr is not a server hopper server. You do realise 80% of sfr hopped to your server do you?

Once upon a time, arbor stone was a healthy server….

how does this even matter? fight, have fun and do w/e you want to.
to much drama, stop getting kitten, both frenchies and deso/sfr.

ps. thanks for all the fights on sfr today WL.

Having fun in EB atm.. dat skill lag.

Upperground.6849:

Troma.3250:

…

So yeah, if sometimes ppl call you frogs and rats, it does come from somewhere, and it is not always “the others” to blame. Everyone has to deal with annoyances, but it looks like VS have the hardest time handling them, and start to go berserk trolling, or just being ignorant about it blaming others, and post idiotic stuff.

.

Are you seriously saying anyone should accept being called a rat? Because of a video game?

jiddo.8041:

Sirius.9721:

jiddo.8041:

Troma.3250:

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I lolled at the sfr is not a server hopper server. You do realise 80% of sfr hopped to your server do you?

Once upon a time, arbor stone was a healthy server….

how does this even matter? fight, have fun and do w/e you want to.
to much drama, stop getting kitten, both frenchies and deso/sfr.

ps. thanks for all the fights on sfr today WL.

I dont really care about server hoppers. I think most of us have done it by now, it was just a reaction on some guy who said sfr was not a server with server hoppers which sounded a bit silly to me.

Was wondering today what could have happened to FSP if the old disorder league wouldn`t have left. Having za drots, nugos, greenfire etc. on 1 server was awesome. If only we had a night crew back then, we would have probably dominated eu wvw.

Or not.

But yes, FSP was a great and honorable opponent. For sure, SFR has great muted people like all other servers and this people doesn’t deserve to be trakittenalked.

So it’s really funny to read ‘no VS is not bashed a,d if so it’s its fault’, lol?

Do I need to remind the beginning of this hate to VS was all the QQings about the nightcapping? and we know now that was totally unfounded, just because people who came on VS thought before game release what WvW would be and organised themselves for the occasion.

Upperground.6849:

So yeah, if sometimes ppl call you frogs and rats, it does come from somewhere, and it is not always “the others” to blame.

You don’t get so aggressive for a game, period.
You talk about arrogance and all these things “VS” should blame itself, have built a formidable story because of “spies” who read a public chan, but seriously, what happens is:

Every T1 topic since release, typical sum-up: X / Y / VS matchup.
A minority of guys from X and Y start on the track of “VS does exploit (here, take an ambiguous screenshot), doesn’t fight before midnight, have no skill, don’t deserve to be here, win because of french canadians (because, you know, there are no english-speaking people in America), are rats/frogs, should be ashamed of how they play”.
Some VS guys react, generally calmly, by saying that’s kitten.
In the middle of this, speaking of good fights or facepalming on the previous ones, some guys from VS who don’t even care (more and more) and the majority form X and Y who understand this is a game, being so hateful is stupid and respect should NEVER be in question.

Guess what? You are in the first category.
I could admire your commitment to the W3 if you are at that point when you absolutely HATE your opponent and make a text so long to PROVE that the whole server should really be ashamed but…

No. Chill out.

actual i said to myself im silent but cant read this cra* of some vs guys anymore

no viznuah your are not good you zerg arround with mindless people who cant win any 1vs1 or small scale fights. usual vs guy runs off hides keep come back with double the number to be sure

even prx didnt help us that much since from 7am-noon you guys got coverage aswell. relly wonder somtimes if some server consist of only jobless and students.

when peole come back work/school u had the whole map covered during weekdays
means u get 500-6xx ticks for hours

then when people start logging in they face t3 castles keep w/e

it has been for all your enemies so and its pretty boring

be happy u win by points but thats not cause of dedication or your super cordination, pretty sure you wouldnt see one keep when they finally let us play vs us-servers

so please brag about winning but not about beeing superior community which is so awesome to stay t1 for 100 years

same was blacktide had 100% mapcoverage from 4am-4pm thats not skill just using the easy way. no shame on it but no reason to brag either.

keep fighting have fun but screw this denial of vs for the real reason u stay t1 that long and win most of it

I wonder if every french just uses google translate.
Just pointed out some facts in a calm and chill manner.

Long text does not correlate to someone’s chillout level.

Also I never called anyone a rat, maybe a frog once, just because people know what it points at, just like people using the word pug, or random. Many don’t like that word either, rightfully I guess.
But so what, there is nothing wrong with a frog, we try to save many poor frogs every year crossing the street in danger of being flattened by a car tire. I don’t even know why people use that word, but it sure is easier to type than french.
Frogs should feel insulted that you find being called a frog an insult. You can call me a rabbit if you want. I jump around a lot. And I like carrots. In fact, I’ll do some hopping to undo all the silly hopper remarks.

Anyway, enough sillyness, you all might start to go berserk again. I tried to prove a point, and all you are doing lately is proving it over and over again. Thanks. To get the point you will have to read the message again and try to understand it.

And yeah, what else is there to talk about VS, not much great fights to be had compared to, let’s say, Deso, but surely Piken, before the (unfortunate) split-up.

The sad thing is, the scoring and tier system is designed for balanced matchups to have fun, but, it could also be a crude joke on that: 3 servers PvDooring eachother for 8h a day will also be perfectly in balance in score, but where is the fun in that?
So yeah, there are righfully complaints about the way VS plays just to win. There is nothing honourable or admirable about ppl playing during the night when most people sleep, or during the day when most people work/go to school.
Nobody is going to stop anyone doing it though, but don’t expect any love or respect for that particular thing. And you should surely not complain about anyone trying to balance it out, in any way possible. I preferably get some oversea people than having people do unhealthy stuff just for a game.

It would be to the benefit of all if every server tried to improve their fighting skills, and not just their hide and seek skills. Because that surely is not what WvW is about. Then there could also be less complaining about weird coverage issues.

Also on a more personal note, when you try to analyze individuals, you should be more careful when coming to conclusions, you really don’t wanna fail so hard at it, it is better to just not do it, or at least not write down your personal conclusion.
I enjoy making long texts, and I never try to prove a whole server should be ashamed. Everyone should be ashamed, because, simply, we are human, and therefor, we fail plenty. Naja, you should not be ashamed about that, it is just human nature.

I’m sure I failed this message, because people will fail to understand it. And of course, because I’m merely a human.

Toodeloo

2.5k kills today love it. Action is great GH + WL. Shame WL die few times then bring 50 more with them tho. I very much look foward to GvG.

On the comment of Viz you have one guild that solid which is WL rest is quality of t3-t8. Viz should be under no illusion you win because of your coverage from 4/5am till 12. You got butchered vs blacktide on points even with just RG/Unnamed and CIR in primetime only. We won because Xaoc killed your morning zerg and then upgraded everything into primetime. Where as then as now is +280/400 primetime on SFR que viz on 150-200. If we had xaoc even with just half them now there would be no discussion. You say we won you won some. You won after xaoc stopped from 2am with maxs and then xaoc stopping shortly full time after that. There was no us win you win about it. Blacktide dominated viz, then it was dead que viz wins.

Relentless sometimes i think crazy coming back to be farmed so many times. Solid community leader with troma. But kept in t1 by way higher player base on server i think not even many Canadians from hearing from our ex WL Canadian. Add in major siege users. Ts3 community driven. Shadow capping in night with few scouts saying to come that zone if it seems dead.

Thats the reason i wanna see viz go t2. So much denial in the ranks of viz. Could your server survive this crippling blow its all you care about.

On that note deso will go down this week but they will be back with big +points from t2. We send elona back down and keep plugging away at viz. We need JS to stop slacking and take points of elona. As for you viz thinking we gonna rage quit if viz dont go down, dont be silly this is win win. i get to farm 1000s of kills and slowly your morale will break. Plus while im sure deso and us try fill 4/5am till 12pm timezone. Then its gameover viz.

Quick mention to viz in eb outpost tonight. 15min farm? 300-400 kills you definitely wont forget that. No doubt you will turn it into some roleplay story how you resisted the mighty RG push and died 20+ times each the spirit was strong!. Yet outpost would of been taken 10 times over if Anet would only make the cap same size as SM or even smaller in outposts. There is no way outpost should be impossible to take vs defenders, add in the waypoint abuse on end of timer.

Look forward to few more weeks of farmage. <3 Sacrx

Edit: Any french guilds who play from 4am till 12pm. Just gimme a shout you can come over. Some old beef from previous games? wanting to stick it to viz?. call me. Thats for JS/Arb/AR/Ranik. You all win at that time you may as well come do it for us where needed!. We have option as french mascot. Sick of being farmed on viz? come on over!

NHL matches are over and viz players come kick some doors.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4345/gw068b.jpg kthxbye

Sorry Upperground but you clearly said french players may deserve to be call frogs and rats, and there is absolutely no context where this kind of talk could be acceptable, think about it.

However, Vizunah wants to stay the first, and doing all it’s necessary, we hope you’re doing the same, that’s the game isn’t it ?

Hm i will let the guilds answer about what you speak if they want Sacrx, but just a thing: you mixed up what i said. I was talking to the SFR player when i said you won we won etc. For Blacktide, i said :

“Blacktide was a great server, nothing more to say”

“I thinked the same for (All)Blacktide and tried to find strategy to beat them a lot, but never spit on them.”

“Hmm Blacktide were the All Blacks ! "

This said, while i agree concerning WL, i think you are too hard with others. It’s true, RG is really good guild, remember me some good feeling of other PvP games when i see you charge and kill. You have to remember that a lot of guild are less hardcore than WL (and i know it well, i was WL for almost 7 years) and RG, are it’s very hard to them to kill a fully optimized group with all combos, strats, optimized stuff/character and good leader.

Imagine killing this with mixed/pug raid ! imagine the balance. Imagine when i or a raidleader build a mixed raid with vizunians, guilds etc. There is everything: some opti char, some lvl 1, some bad builds/stuff, some beginner, imagine Fifilepetitguerrier with his lvl 1 ranger fighting an angry RG with a 10meters swords and skulls attached to his belt? it’s like fight a nuclear bomb with a single tank man.

I know some like FM, VSS i heard yesterday too, managed to kill you few times. I don’t know how, i don’t know the numbers, how it happened, i don’t know if they killed you 2 times and you more, but if they manage you are too hard to say “T3 or T8 guilds !”

Everyone knows RG is good, so it’s a challenge for a lot of players. Don’t be rude to them, instead of be honored i think.