Vizunah / Riverside / Desolation

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Posted by: Jmikeydarby.3105

Jmikeydarby.3105

@Rock

Basically anyone with a DVG, INVI, CS, TLA, EXG, GoD, GT, or Aftl tag are people you want to follow. I apologize if I missed any guilds with exceptional commanders, do not be offended, that’s just from the top of my head.

Those guilds put out a lot of solid commanders and most have a lot of really good wvw experience.

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Posted by: Rock.7324

Rock.7324

Peeps,

I’m on a roll today with questions, and I’m sorry if I’m bothering , but trying to learn as fast as I can so I gotta ask =D

Who desides who will be the commanders? How does that work?
I’ve been online the past few days playing mostly WvW and I am yet to see the same 2 commanders… It’s always different. Yday I was with a person called Kodah or something like that, the day before with another dude, the day before that with another… it’s not that I mind, all of them have different strategies so I learn alot, but I’m just curious as to how that works.

all commanders from deso server meet in a big room with round table. then we draw straws. who gets the shortest runs deso BL that week:P

Oj Petrice, pa ti si poznatiji prema baladama, ne bajkama/vicevima :P

@peeps with the serious answers;
Thank you for the explanation. I’ve seen most of the guilds you mentioned and I do usually follow one of them around…guess I’ve been doing a good job without even knowing :P

Do tell tho, I had complains in Eternal yday that “Deso has no scouts”, but then when I do report (in /map) nothing ever happens… what gives? Is there any other way (preferably where people will actually respond) to give the info? Like, a big “wvw chat” that is not /map?

C ya in a few =D

* ’Ko leži ne beži! *
Rockbaby – Asura Guardian, Desolation EU :)
Rockavenger – Dwarf Paladin, Bronzebeard EU :D

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Posted by: Icko.8409

Icko.8409

Do tell tho, I had complains in Eternal yday that “Deso has no scouts”, but then when I do report (in /map) nothing ever happens… what gives? Is there any other way (preferably where people will actually respond) to give the info? Like, a big “wvw chat” that is not /map?

C ya in a few =D

Map chat can often be filled with general talking and the usual trolls.

An alternative is to use the “/t” command which the brighter red text you see. This may help a bit but not always.

The best way is to get on the Desolation TeamSpeak (DesoSpeak) and call out things verbally as you will always get peoples attention. I would recommend join DesoSpeak whenever you are in WvW anyway (just jump in and ask in /m or /t for permissions) as it makes communication and coordination with the commander far clearer and easier.

There is also a DesoSpeak website that is for the Desolation community that has heaps of stuff you may find helpful if you are new to the game.

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Posted by: warriorjrd.8695

warriorjrd.8695

Yuuummy, yummy, yummy. Vizunah tower defense is my new favorite mini game!
(Take note of the outnumbered buff)

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Posted by: Grotesque.6480

Grotesque.6480

Streaming World War Z again – the battle against Vizunah.

http://en.twitch.tv/grotesquexg

Team Aggression [TA]

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Posted by: Sephil.3971

Sephil.3971

Sorry Viz and Deso that we cannot give you the same decent fights anymore.RS community is full of drama, some guilds left others will follow, so our numbers are decreasing more and more.
Nevertheless the remaining ones will try for the best.

Greets Myrmi

btw finally you got our garrison hopefully you enjoyed the battle for it last two days

Of course! If you only build 1 AC for every 2 people, half of them are gonna be unhappy, cause they will actually have to use their class skills instead of spamming 1 through a door. :/

Yep … and you could probably teach your people, that running with only a couple of people – instead of the whole map in one huge zerg – is also possible
Using ACs is often the only way how to counter the immense numbers of your people.

Riiiiiight…

Taken just now. We’re 15 top in the keep, you have like 20 people on the wall with who knows how many catapults (we managed to destroy a few) and a treb, you’ve got at least 25 people as shown by the orange cross (looked more like 40 to me from above) in front of the door, and you still need a treb outside, just to be sure.

Overkill much?

60 v 15 and can’t even man up enough to ram the door, but hey if you say we’re the ones zerging… xD

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Posted by: Pheppo.9286

Pheppo.9286

HeHeHe … thats the hill!

i really like hill battles. And if you have a handfull of good people and enough supplies you can hold this fort really long against an overwhelming attacking force.

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Posted by: satkis.7021

satkis.7021

Thank you La Main Noire [MN] for GvG attempt tonight! The result was: [TLA] 1-0 [GHO].

We couldn’t fight a single round against [MN] because of this vizuna guild [GHO] interrupting our GvG all the time. I wish all the best to you [MN], great guys. [GHO] please have a bad life! Thank you!

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Posted by: Cluster.4159

Cluster.4159

@Rock

Basically anyone with a DVG, INVI, CS, TLA, EXG, GoD, GT, or Aftl tag are people you want to follow. I apologize if I missed any guilds with exceptional commanders, do not be offended, that’s just from the top of my head.

Those guilds put out a lot of solid commanders and most have a lot of really good wvw experience.

Maybe. but none of these guilds respects roamer. They are just freekills for them. Seems like the Maxime of all of these guilds is: Kill single roamers with 20+ PPl and then start dancing around them.

Not a single one of these guilds is honourable. ^^ The only guilds i’ve ever seen which definitely respect roamers are Red Guard [RG] and Furious Cookies [FURY].

-]Deadly Fragrancy[- we are imbO!
Yeah my voice was heard, I’ve got my permanent Rabbit-Finisher <3!

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Posted by: Deniara Devious.3948

Deniara Devious.3948

Maybe. but none of these guilds respects roamer. They are just freekills for them. Seems like the Maxime of all of these guilds is: Kill single roamers with 20+ PPl and then start dancing around them.

Not a single one of these guilds is honourable. ^^ The only guilds i’ve ever seen which definitely respect roamers are Red Guard [RG] and Furious Cookies [FURY].

I have never used /dance or /laugh emote or other disrespectful behavior near dead enemy corpses. In fact I am pretty sure that is a rare thing. I have seen some enemy server players doing that, but I haven’t witnessed Desolation players dancing on corpses.

I do solo roaming most of the time. And I get attacked of course by enemy groups. Some are PuGs, but sometimes an entire enemy team of 3-8 players all having same guild tags has been chasing me for many minutes, even across the entire map. Mind you, I play an engineer most of the time and engineers shouldn’t be that difficult to catch.

After being ganked endless of times by bigger enemy group why an earth I should let enemy roamers walk free and cap our supplies? They are free kills. If you mess with me, you get to taste your own medicine.

E.g. yesterday I was solo roaming an a Visunah guild team of about 5-7 players attacked me near Arah’s Hope. I started to flee seeing that they were too many for myself to handle alone. They chased me and killed me. I could very well predict where they would go next. I told in map chat and finally we got people to attack them. Those Visunah players were playing very well and managed to kill several on our side, but never me again when I wasn’t alone against many. I was soon collecting loot bags from all of them. I am not raging at all. In fact I want thank those VS players for a well fought match and thanks for giving me WXP and loot bags.

It is all fair and square: you kill me with a group when I roam alone. I collect more people from our side and kill your group.

Deniara / Ayna – I want the original WvWvW maps back – Desolation [EU]

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Posted by: Magnetron.5823

Magnetron.5823

Feels a bit strange tonight, it looks deso have lot less numbers… but no outmanned buff and long queue

Born in the Desolation. Die for Desolation.

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Posted by: Vimoz.1265

Vimoz.1265

Just had a 1v1 with another thief east of the desolation garrisson in the desolation borderland, and I must say it was a lovely experiance. We kept it up for 7-10 minutes and I was on my edge all the time. Might be one of my best wvwvw experiances so far.
So if theres any chanse that the asuran thief from vizunah, tag [ATA], reads this; thanks!
Regards.

Deso [PrG] Thief, Guard, Ele

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Posted by: Jibblejab.7052

Jibblejab.7052

Thanks for the fun evening in Viz BL this evening, fun times flipping hills back and forth.
Thanks to all the TEQ, TLA and EXG guys running as well as many others, had a great night. Really enjoying this match-up.

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Posted by: Jmikeydarby.3105

Jmikeydarby.3105

@Rock

Basically anyone with a DVG, INVI, CS, TLA, EXG, GoD, GT, or Aftl tag are people you want to follow. I apologize if I missed any guilds with exceptional commanders, do not be offended, that’s just from the top of my head.

Those guilds put out a lot of solid commanders and most have a lot of really good wvw experience.

Maybe. but none of these guilds respects roamer. They are just freekills for them. Seems like the Maxime of all of these guilds is: Kill single roamers with 20+ PPl and then start dancing around them.

Not a single one of these guilds is honourable. ^^ The only guilds i’ve ever seen which definitely respect roamers are Red Guard [RG] and Furious Cookies [FURY].

If I’m leading, unless you run with a Vizunah invader tag above your head, I let roamers live. Months of watching Vizunah be… well.. Vizunah has left a ever lasting hate in me, and anyone that transfers to that server deserves to be blobbed to death, since that’s what their night cap team is.

If you aren’t from Vizunah, I actually command my guildies to NOT kill roamers or people doing 1v1s. I will continue to actively work toward that as well.

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Posted by: Myrmidone.4362

Myrmidone.4362

Sorry Viz and Deso that we cannot give you the same decent fights anymore.RS community is full of drama, some guilds left others will follow, so our numbers are decreasing more and more.
Nevertheless the remaining ones will try for the best.

Greets Myrmi

btw finally you got our garrison hopefully you enjoyed the battle for it last two days

Of course! If you only build 1 AC for every 2 people, half of them are gonna be unhappy, cause they will actually have to use their class skills instead of spamming 1 through a door. :/

Yep … and you could probably teach your people, that running with only a couple of people – instead of the whole map in one huge zerg – is also possible
Using ACs is often the only way how to counter the immense numbers of your people.

Riiiiiight…

Taken just now. We’re 15 top in the keep, you have like 20 people on the wall with who knows how many catapults (we managed to destroy a few) and a treb, you’ve got at least 25 people as shown by the orange cross (looked more like 40 to me from above) in front of the door, and you still need a treb outside, just to be sure.

Overkill much?

60 v 15 and can’t even man up enough to ram the door, but hey if you say we’re the ones zerging… xD

Really funny Sephil, are you joking?
You trebbed the hell out of you attacking our Garrison with countless trebuchets for at least 3 kittening days.
We pushed out and wiped you there time after time
Should i remind you how many you were there against us?
So pls at least never again complain about more people or sieging, cause this is ridiculous.
I think you forgot on which Server you play, cause Zerging is on another Level there.

Greets Myrmi

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Posted by: Sephil.3971

Sephil.3971

Sorry Viz and Deso that we cannot give you the same decent fights anymore.RS community is full of drama, some guilds left others will follow, so our numbers are decreasing more and more.
Nevertheless the remaining ones will try for the best.

Greets Myrmi

btw finally you got our garrison hopefully you enjoyed the battle for it last two days

Of course! If you only build 1 AC for every 2 people, half of them are gonna be unhappy, cause they will actually have to use their class skills instead of spamming 1 through a door. :/

Yep … and you could probably teach your people, that running with only a couple of people – instead of the whole map in one huge zerg – is also possible
Using ACs is often the only way how to counter the immense numbers of your people.

Riiiiiight…

Taken just now. We’re 15 top in the keep, you have like 20 people on the wall with who knows how many catapults (we managed to destroy a few) and a treb, you’ve got at least 25 people as shown by the orange cross (looked more like 40 to me from above) in front of the door, and you still need a treb outside, just to be sure.

Overkill much?

60 v 15 and can’t even man up enough to ram the door, but hey if you say we’re the ones zerging… xD

Really funny Sephil, are you joking?
You trebbed the hell out of you attacking our Garrison with countless trebuchets for at least 3 kittening days.
We pushed out and wiped you there time after time
Should i remind you how many you were there against us?
So pls at least never again complain about more people or sieging, cause this is ridiculous.
I think you forgot on which Server you play, cause Zerging is on another Level there.

Greets Myrmi

That’s exactly my point! Don’t complain about our gameplay when you’re so obviously doing the same.

Every single server we faced since the change of matchup has done exactly what you guys are doing. Bringing the biggest zerg you can manage to go against us evil wrongdoers of Vizunah, and whine like kitten when we respond with a bigger zerg is just sheer hypocrisy.

Stop blaming us for this metagame, we’re just defending our rank here.

Cheers

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Posted by: hokage.5342

hokage.5342

Zerging is not on another level, only the mass is another Level on Vizunah. You only wiped me once and that was 10vs30 inc. your ac´s. Vizunah are only walking lootbags, and most of time you are running away Vzunah. Crushing Vizu T3 Keeps was funny, Deso are much tougher.

It was nice to meet you again Deso, maybe next time with another Server that is not only running away. Greets from RS

Greets Astha

Your sin… is your very existence. Someone once said that place is engulfed in darkness. However, that does in no way mean that there was never any light. Darkness or light ???—→ my soul is my sword, my sword is my pride, it cut´s everything, my soul is my armor and shield, it blocks everything, it´s a divine protection, i´m invincible→united we stand divided we fall → in maiorem dei gloriam → a noble spirit is the prove of existence.

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Posted by: aelska.4609

aelska.4609

@Rock

Basically anyone with a DVG, INVI, CS, TLA, EXG, GoD, GT, or Aftl tag are people you want to follow. I apologize if I missed any guilds with exceptional commanders, do not be offended, that’s just from the top of my head.

Those guilds put out a lot of solid commanders and most have a lot of really good wvw experience.

Maybe. but none of these guilds respects roamer. They are just freekills for them. Seems like the Maxime of all of these guilds is: Kill single roamers with 20+ PPl and then start dancing around them.

Not a single one of these guilds is honourable. ^^ The only guilds i’ve ever seen which definitely respect roamers are Red Guard [RG] and Furious Cookies [FURY].

If I’m leading, unless you run with a Vizunah invader tag above your head, I let roamers live. Months of watching Vizunah be… well.. Vizunah has left a ever lasting hate in me, and anyone that transfers to that server deserves to be blobbed to death, since that’s what their night cap team is.

If you aren’t from Vizunah, I actually command my guildies to NOT kill roamers or people doing 1v1s. I will continue to actively work toward that as well.

So, why hating Vizunah’s roamers and not the others ? There is something I don’t understand, these peoples never escapes from fights (except if you come with your zerg) and are not blobbing.

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Posted by: oaagamer.6594

oaagamer.6594

@Rock

Basically anyone with a DVG, INVI, CS, TLA, EXG, GoD, GT, or Aftl tag are people you want to follow. I apologize if I missed any guilds with exceptional commanders, do not be offended, that’s just from the top of my head.

Those guilds put out a lot of solid commanders and most have a lot of really good wvw experience.

Maybe. but none of these guilds respects roamer. They are just freekills for them. Seems like the Maxime of all of these guilds is: Kill single roamers with 20+ PPl and then start dancing around them.

Not a single one of these guilds is honourable. ^^ The only guilds i’ve ever seen which definitely respect roamers are Red Guard [RG] and Furious Cookies [FURY].

Ok where do I start from.

first of all this happens to every roamer in the game, if you are caught it means you are a rubbish roamer. Secondly no need to defend my guild we do what we see as right some we let go, some we get a group to kill and in most cases where we have a roamer stupid enough to try solo a 20+ guild group we put him out of his misery. We never dance over corspe = thats just stupid behaviour. Thirdly this is war if I leave a roamer to take my camps then I cant upgrade and all the commanders here think the same I hv been stomped by viz and rs zerg trying to run round map do u see me crying on here … I know war and everyone will not shut their eyes to anyone unless it can lead to their own downfall.

Candy
Owner of Candy Shop [CS] and Desolation Commander
Be the change you want to see in the world.

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Posted by: Jmikeydarby.3105

Jmikeydarby.3105

@Rock

Basically anyone with a DVG, INVI, CS, TLA, EXG, GoD, GT, or Aftl tag are people you want to follow. I apologize if I missed any guilds with exceptional commanders, do not be offended, that’s just from the top of my head.

Those guilds put out a lot of solid commanders and most have a lot of really good wvw experience.

Maybe. but none of these guilds respects roamer. They are just freekills for them. Seems like the Maxime of all of these guilds is: Kill single roamers with 20+ PPl and then start dancing around them.

Not a single one of these guilds is honourable. ^^ The only guilds i’ve ever seen which definitely respect roamers are Red Guard [RG] and Furious Cookies [FURY].

If I’m leading, unless you run with a Vizunah invader tag above your head, I let roamers live. Months of watching Vizunah be… well.. Vizunah has left a ever lasting hate in me, and anyone that transfers to that server deserves to be blobbed to death, since that’s what their night cap team is.

If you aren’t from Vizunah, I actually command my guildies to NOT kill roamers or people doing 1v1s. I will continue to actively work toward that as well.

So, why hating Vizunah’s roamers and not the others ? There is something I don’t understand, these peoples never escapes from fights (except if you come with your zerg) and are not blobbing.

Months and Months of watching 70 Vizunah nightcap the entire map and flip every keep in that game then hide in their t3 keeps at primetime has created a deep seeded hatred in me for everyone on that server. There is simply no excuse for anyone on that server. You know full well what the server does and how it wins. I do not care if you do or do not engage in that behavior, the fact of that matter is that you transferred to a server that does. So for that reason, you deserve to be blobbed to death constantly whether it’s by 20 or 100. I deserve compensation for all of the gold I’ve had to put into upgrading keeps again in the morning.

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Posted by: Zoxea.9564

Zoxea.9564

Vizunah has left a ever lasting hate in me

Nolife spotted.

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Posted by: Jmikeydarby.3105

Jmikeydarby.3105

Lol.

Lol.

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Posted by: romsea.8539

romsea.8539

I’m growing sick of this never ending trash talk about vizunah, i don’t post anymore but being called walking bags by riverside is too much of a joke really.

i play since beta and have been on vizunah at release. I know for a fact that there are a lot of very good player in there, of course there is also new comers and some not so good player like everywhere else.

Thus i’m gonna call arenanet on this.
It’d be cool to have some kind of sumary of the week with interesting stat such as number of tower fliped, number of upgrades, number of siege built on top of mind and yes…total kill by server.
I’d bet my right hand that the winning side is almost always first in term of kills…