Guild Wars 2

I have been waiting for the SAB dagger skins for months. Not a great variety of dagger skins exist with effects.

Do you think the new SAB dagger skins will look great? Maybe the new SAB King Toad and Storm Wizard weapon skins will also include dagger skins.

I imagine they’ll be similar in design to the Sword skin, with the somewhat crystal-like but otherwise relatively basic shape. But maybe they’ll pull out a surprise with them, who knows.

As for the King Toad / Storm Wizard weapons… if the picture shown is any indication, it looks like those will just be recolors of the current SAB skins, so I don’t see why they wouldn’t include every weapon type. But again, who knows.

I’d kill for some better dagger skins. I’d like an incinerator, but I don’t believe in life grinding for virtual pixels lol.

yes, from that one pic we saw okitteng Toad’s or what’s the other boss’ name weapons, it just seems a recolor of the existing super skins. BUT, of course, we shall see. : ))

excited though cause you’re so excited, OP! lol

We’ll imo the GS and sword SAB skins are gross, so imagine I won’t like the dagger. (I preferred the bow, shield and scepter).

However I am hopeful of the King Toad and Storm Wizard skins. Get a slight feeling I shouldn’t get overly excited though.

I’m hoping the Storm wizard skins are just an upgrade to the SAB1 skins with maybe particle trails on sword swing or arrow shot.

Can’t wait to see the whole set of SAB skins this time around though.

Been waiting a loooooong time for the SAB daggers for my Asuran thief.

If the Toad or Storm King’s weapons are just the same but different colours, I am hoping that one of them is red because my Asuran will be very happy and you will all just be test subjects for the Inquest one day.

I still have my staff from SAB 1… If only I could use it…. pats little virtual birdy on the head one day my friend…. One day…

I think all of the SAB skins look really, really lame. You couldn’t pay me to use those skins. SW and KT skins may look cool, idk yet.

What is wrong with the great sword? I think they are great and they remind me of the energy sword from Halo 1.

Since you can use two daggers at once, you may want one King Toad Dagger and one Storm King dagger. Maybe the two regular SAB daggers will looks nice together.

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

Hmm. Interesting. I like the correlation to the bauble colors.

What happened to your dev tag Josh? :o

suddenly i am much more excited

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

You mean content that’s beyond “Liadri difficult”? OH BOY!!!

Whenever i read a dev say something is supposed to be ridiculously difficult i think of their comments about dungeons before the game launched, as well as the Candidate Trials. lol.

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

Josh… Oh Josh.
I love you so much, you and your team.
All I can say about this: IHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOOYYYYYYY, EYYYYY BOYYYYYYY.

Obs: Mods, don’t delete my post, go play SAB and get the message ok, don’t repeat your wrong-doings!

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

They said the same thing about Liadri but now everyone and their grandma has a Liadri mini.

As much as I love your work, Josh Foreman, I really can’t stand the fact that you guys created a ridiculously difficult and time consuming mode (don’t get me wrong, it’s amazing actually) while “time consuming” is a contradiction to “temporary content” in my opinion. So as long as SAB is temporary, this hard mode gets even harder due to a cheap time limit. That annoys me :/. Is it temporary to begin with? I bet it is.

“Cheap” is actually a good cue: SAB is – to a certain extent – a throwback to the 80s / 90s of gaming. Many games were pretty hard, but not necessarily because the developer wanted to challenge the player but to “hide” the short length of the game. Even “worse”, high difficulties were often achieved through ridiculously unfair mechanics, trial&error or whatever and some games were only beatable by memorizing every single bit of it. So what can I expect? A extremely hard version of SAB or … a tribute to those old ways of difficulty? A mix of both? Don’t get me wrong. I’d like both, because that would be also a point, but I have to prepare myself. My body has to be ready, you know :P

Rage.9723:

I have been waiting for the SAB dagger skins for months. Not a great variety of dagger skins exist with effects.

Do you think the new SAB dagger skins will look great? Maybe the new SAB King Toad and Storm Wizard weapon skins will also include dagger skins.

They’ll probably look like mini swords. Exactly like them.
That’s my bet at least.

Nihilus.3015:

They said the same thing about Liadri but now everyone and their grandma has a Liadri mini.

I think that’s an exaggeration. We know that of the 50 (or was it 100?) ANet testers that fought Liadri, only 6 of them managed to beat her. Still, that’s about 15% of the playerbase. When you multiply that across 1 million+ players, that’s 150,000 players who should have the skill necessary to beat her. These players will almost certainly have their Liadri mini out to show off, so you’ll be seeing her a fair bit, thus the incorrect assumption that everybody was able to beat her.

This is reflected in my own guild experience too. We have a roster of 200 – 300 players, of which about 50 – 75 are regulars. Of these regulars, I only know about 5 of us who have actually beaten Liadri.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification, Josh. I think that having the King Toad/Storm Wizard skins be palette swaps of the Super weapons to be a very fair way of doing it. They are unique so players with the skills can have something concrete to show for it, but at the same time, the ordinary Super skins are basically the exact same thing so if a player has their heart set on the look of one of the weapons, they aren’t left out altogether.

I can’t wait! I loved the Super Adventure Box. It is absolute genius! Is it Tuesday already?
Thanks for making such a great addition to the game. I’m terrible at jumping puzzles but can’t wait to try this content out.

Thanks again.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

You mean content that’s beyond “Liadri difficult”? OH BOY!!!

Given who’s saying it, I’d think it’s more appropriate to say harder than the Clock Tower hard.

Zaxares.5419:

Nihilus.3015:

They said the same thing about Liadri but now everyone and their grandma has a Liadri mini.

I think that’s an exaggeration. We know that of the 50 (or was it 100?) ANet testers that fought Liadri, only 6 of them managed to beat her. Still, that’s about 15% of the playerbase. When you multiply that across 1 million+ players, that’s 150,000 players who should have the skill necessary to beat her. These players will almost certainly have their Liadri mini out to show off, so you’ll be seeing her a fair bit, thus the incorrect assumption that everybody was able to beat her.

This is reflected in my own guild experience too. We have a roster of 200 – 300 players, of which about 50 – 75 are regulars. Of these regulars, I only know about 5 of us who have actually beaten Liadri.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification, Josh. I think that having the King Toad/Storm Wizard skins be palette swaps of the Super weapons to be a very fair way of doing it. They are unique so players with the skills can have something concrete to show for it, but at the same time, the ordinary Super skins are basically the exact same thing so if a player has their heart set on the look of one of the weapons, they aren’t left out altogether.

Im sure its a lot more than 15%, I see a lot of minis on just Stormbluff. Some people who I thought would never get it, have it.

Josh, will those weapons from Tribulation Mode be tradeable?

or rather “8 lights achievement difficult?”

I’ve also been looking forward to the dagger skin since last time. It looks like it might be a pretty big dagger based on the hilt that shows in the picture.

Atroras.9481:

or rather “8 lights achievement difficult?”

I wonder how many people actually got this. I managed to do it after a lot of effort, and I like the idea of some content that is this difficult as well as a reward to show off, but I’m worried about having enough time to get it done since it’s not sticking around.

Secret boss fight: Liadri, in 8-bit!
At least in SAB we can whip her back >:p

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

Yes! That’s what I’m talking about. At last we will be able to recognise players who kick butts in some part of the game. Moar!

I’m sure there will still be posts saying that ANet needs to nerf Tribulation Mode though.

Zaxares.5419:

I’m sure there will still be posts saying that ANet needs to nerf Tribulation Mode though.

If there are temporary achievements tied to it yes. If you only do it for the skins then I don’t think we will get many such posts, in either way we will get some for sure.

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

So some months ago you said that the old SAB skins won’t be obtainable anymore. Is this still the case? Will the regular SAB skins not drop anymore in normal mode? Will they still be buyable from moto? What about Tribulation Mode. Will all the SAB skins drop in different Colors in Tribulation mode?
You also said back then that the dropchance will get a new system so that farming the skins won’t be the same anymore. Will Skin drop chance be tied to the points you have now? Or is the system still the same?
Also an ingame timed mode with leaderboards would be also nice. It’s fun to speedrun SAB.

Zaxares.5419:

I’m sure there will still be posts saying that ANet needs to nerf Tribulation Mode though.

Of course there will be such posts but there must be more posts saying that (if this content really will be hard enough) it’s great to have it and it must stay the way it is.
And that we need more

Nihilus.3015:

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

They said the same thing about Liadri but now everyone and their grandma has a Liadri mini.

On what planet ? It’s still and will prolly remain for a while the hardest 1v1 content in the game and maybe 15% of the playerbase have actually got that achiv.

Cant wait for SAB though

offence.4726:

Nihilus.3015:

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

They said the same thing about Liadri but now everyone and their grandma has a Liadri mini.

On what planet ? It’s still and will prolly remain for a while the hardest 1v1 content in the game and maybe 15% of the playerbase have actually got that achiv.

Cant wait for SAB though

Ive seen some players who can’t even do regular dungeons cause they so its too hard get the Liadri mini.

John, will there be a solo mode of the tribulation difficulty? I really hope so! If that is the case, I would hope the skins are not tradeable. If it’s a forced group setting, I hope they will be.

Nihilus.3015:

offence.4726:

Nihilus.3015:

They said the same thing about Liadri but now everyone and their grandma has a Liadri mini.

On what planet ? It’s still and will prolly remain for a while the hardest 1v1 content in the game and maybe 15% of the playerbase have actually got that achiv.

Ive seen some players who can’t even do regular dungeons cause they so its too hard get the Liadri mini.

Smells a bit like illegal account-sharing in that case.
Not naming names, but I’ve seen loads of people get their more hardcore friends login with their accounts to defeat Liadri. Account-holder (hereafter called The Cheater) remains the same, “incompetent” player but have a mini they unjustly acquired.

Buttercup.5871:

John, will there be a solo mode of the tribulation difficulty? I really hope so! If that is the case, I would hope the skins are not tradeable. If it’s a forced group setting, I hope they will be.

The SAB was always a solo adventure that simply allowed for groups. It is based on solo games after all. If anything, tribulation mode shouldn’t even support groups, since that could potentially trivialize it.

The skins will most likely not be tradeable. That’s the whole point of hard modes – to show something off.

Ehhhm, did you enjoy defeating the toad boss solo? That frog had a metraton of health, it was designed for a group, not for solo mode.

Don’t be silly, you could whack that boss in 3 shard feedings.
Generally took me a couple of minutes.

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

If its that difficult, whats the drop rate of the special colored skins? Are they guaranteed drops from the chests (as in one random per run)? Unlocked buys from Moto? (if so, are they more or less BBs)?

Also got any picks of the three new colors? (Specifically the red, I’m really curious how that ones gonna look) Pretty please?

What I understand out of this skullmount is that in tribulation mode, each world will drop specific coloured bubbles, of which 250 make one specific coloured bauble. You’ll likely need 50 coloured baubles for 1 specific colour skin.

Evans.6347:

Don’t be silly, you could whack that boss in 3 shard feedings.
Generally took me a couple of minutes.

If that is the case, then please make the skins account bound. I loved not caring one iota anymore about coin when trying to beat Liadri. I gave up trading completely until I beat her, which was very refreshing. For once, getting an item was only about skill. It’s a big leap forward in the right direction.

I don’t understand your comment. Killing the Toad King was probably the slowest way to gather baubles… I just ran through the first levels with 8 characters a day. All you need to buy is bombs really.

Anyway, the Tribulation weapons won’t drop from bosses, you still need to gather enough baubles of a colour. It seems very likely that Tribulation mode will be far, far harder to solo.

Oh right, you mean they should symbolise your skill and not your wealth right? Hmm, I guess. You have to consider these weapons would be a magnificent cash cow for the dedicated too.

We have enough cash cows in the game already. Everything I wanted, I could already buy, including legendaries.

For once, let there be skins that I can’t buy. It’s healthy.

“Ridiculously difficult” and the 8-bit motif only screams one thing to me. “Pixel Perfect Jumps!”

If it is indeed that hard, there’s really no reason to collect baubles throughout the level. Finish the level. get a skin. It should be that easy. Since you can only go to levels that you’ve unlocked, this would make finishing stage three of each world in tribulation mode highly rewarding.

From the pictures though it looks as if it turns the normal levels into a “floor is lava” scenario. Perhaps those spiky … bamboo?… squares severely limit your character’s movement via only being able to jump safely to the next square.

If I take a red, yellow, green, blue and purple skin and somehow cram them into the mystic forge… can I get a white one?

Buttercup.5871:

Ehhhm, did you enjoy defeating the toad boss solo?

Yes? Here’s a refresher, http://youtu.be/g6Jf_1OXbN8

Josh Foreman.6542:

The Tribulation Mode skins are color-shifted variants of the regular set. Each World has a color. Blue is the general SAB color (so not gained through Tribulation Mode), Green is World 1, Yellow World 2, Red World 3 and Purple World 4. This follows the Bauble value color scale. But don’t get your hopes up for getting the Tribulation color variants. Tribulation Mode is ridiculously difficult and time consuming. I don’t expect to see many green or yellow super skins out there. TM is there for a very small group of people who are into that sort of thing.

Can TM be soloed or do you have to get a full group together?

Buttercup.5871:

We have enough cash cows in the game already. Everything I wanted, I could already buy, including legendaries.

For once, let there be skins that I can’t buy. It’s healthy.

Can’t buy a fractal weapon skin, can you?

Hopefully I won’t have to take Tylenol every time I run SAB again, is the motion sickness problem fixed? Judging by the amount of bubbles I need to grind, maybe I should go buy a new bottle of Tylenol just in case.

Yeni.3507:

Buttercup.5871:

We have enough cash cows in the game already. Everything I wanted, I could already buy, including legendaries.

For once, let there be skins that I can’t buy. It’s healthy.

Can’t buy a fractal weapon skin, can you?

Hopefully I won’t have to take Tylenol every time I run SAB again, is the motion sickness problem fixed? Judging by the amount of bubbles I need to grind, maybe I should go buy a new bottle of Tylenol just in case.

You can’t solo high level fractals. That’s why I said account bound if it can be achieved solo.