Guild Wars 2

I agree. I was wondering why they got so expensive…
Either raise the large potion to 5 hearts or reduce the price to 5 or 10 baubles.

Yeah, I was thinking about that too after I bought it. 2 hearts per potion may help a little as it saves time, but since drinking a potion takes a few moments anyway, it may not save your life anyway. And of course healing 2 hearts in a potion isn’t useful at all when there’s instant death traps around.

10 baubles would be fair, but I’d settle for 15 baubles as well for the extra convenience of healing faster.

Seconded.

10 or 15 would be a more reasonable price.

Just buying the upgrade is the equivalent of 60 hearts, god forbid that would give us an advantage for further purchases.

Its no big deal in the end cause potions are meh, but its not logical.

I’ll jump on the 10-15 bandwagon. That seems much more reasonable. There’s no reason for them to cost 25. It kind of makes me regret getting the upgrade.

It is reasonable. Because you can only carry 9 potions at a time. Before the upgrade that made 9 hearts, now it makes 18 hearts. (and honestly, if you’re playing tribulationmode you just get filled with ~300 baubles at the end of zone1/2 in either world)

hiroscho.7230:

It is reasonable. Because you can only carry 9 potions at a time. Before the upgrade that made 9 hearts, now it makes 18 hearts. (and honestly, if you’re playing tribulationmode you just get filled with ~300 baubles at the end of zone1/2 in either world)

Tribulation mode should pretty much be completely ignored when it comes to designing the game for normal mode. Only a small percentage are going to complete it multiple times.

The problem with the upgrade is that, as far as I know, you are stuck with it and cannot change back. Honestly at 25 baubles a pop I would rather change back to what it was before. You also have to remember that the slingshot and bombs use up a bauble for every use.

That potion should simply be a full heal. Not just 2 hearts.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

That potion should simply be a full heal. Not just 2 hearts.

But then there wouldn’t be room for the last potion upgrade. Each item is going to have 3 forms.

Dingle.2743:

But then there wouldn’t be room for the last potion upgrade. Each item is going to have 3 forms.

Have the third version of the item be a heal + temporary invulnerability.

Having potions doesn’t even help with Tribulation Mode since most deaths are due to instant kills.

I could see maybe upgrading the health it restores to 3 hearts. That would make the final potion upgrade restore 5 hearts. Still, I would rather have cheaper potions rather than more filling ones in general. At least until running out of health becomes the main reason I die in SAB.

Im also thinking tht 10-15 would be good.
25 is just too much imo.

25 is just fine, I mean how many baubles do they throw your way again in World 2? Over 1K?

25 isn’t fine when it’s a downgrade from the original. We’re not complaining about the raw cost, we’re complaining that it’s worse than not having it at all.

So having 9 one-heart potions is better than having 9 two-heart potions? What the hell is this, bizarro world? What weed have you guys been smoking to where you can’t get 25 baubles easily? For Snaff’s sake, it’s only 5 more baubles than it would be to buy 2 one-heart potions!

That does seem a bit steep for sure. I agree with many that a 15 baubles would make much more sense.

To add to my earlier statement, BUY THE 9 HEALTH POTIONS BEFORE YOU UPGRADE. The second you upgrade, they all turn from 9 one-heart potions into 9 two-heart potions. And again, not being able to pay 25 baubles for a single one…I worry about you newer generation of gamers, always wanting things handed to you…

How bad are you at the game that you need to use more than 9 extra hearts before the next shop, Ryu?

I don’t use the potions, actually Sli. I never have, so the better question is how bad are you at the game to where you need to use them at all?

RyuDragnier.9476:

To add to my earlier statement, BUY THE 9 HEALTH POTIONS BEFORE YOU UPGRADE. The second you upgrade, they all turn from 9 one-heart potions into 9 two-heart potions. And again, not being able to pay 25 baubles for a single one…I worry about you newer generation of gamers, always wanting things handed to you…

Newer generation of gamer….is that what I am?

That is a neat little trick (one I figured out before reading your post), but I’m not sure how that helps long term. Eventually you’re going to have to replace the potions at 25 baubles each.

Either way, I’m not sure why you feel the need to insult people.

Considering you guys are complaining about a 5 bauble difference for a potion that does the work of 2 one-heart potions (total price being 20 baubles), inside a game where you can get mass amounts of baubles easily, I think I’m allowed to worry about you all.

EDIT: Whoops, I mistook the price of the extra lives for the price of the lower level potions. Disregard all that I’ve said, as in this case I agree, 15 would be a better price.

You silly person Ryu. Now who’s the entitled newer generation of gamer? :P

I know, I’m just a crazy person. What’s next, I’m going to say that it takes 750 baubles to buy the wallet that holds 500 of them? XD

Why buy health potions when buying a life or even a continue coin is way cheaper?

Especially with all the insta-kill mechanics that make hearts useless.

If you give back the heart upgrade, you also have to give back your achievement

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. I have to deposit baubles in my vault all the time anyways, even with the 750 tote bag. I never use potions either, but if you’re actively playing SAB (let alone doing the dig spots in W1 every day) you’re swimming in baubles.

In principle, sure it goes against common sense. In practice? It’s the price of the upgrade and really doesn’t matter with all the baubles available.

25 seems quite steep, especially as there might (?) be further upgrades planned for later worlds.

RyuDragnier.9476:

I know, I’m just a crazy person. What’s next, I’m going to say that it takes 750 baubles to buy the wallet that holds 500 of them? XD

Hey, at least I was only mistaken about the same item, and not two different items. :P

I don’t care if it’s 25 cause I barely use the potion. Considering there might be future upgrades(probably at least 1 upgrade that fills 3 hearts in world 3) it should be a bit lower but still higher than 10. 15 or 20 would be okay.

I agree that it is more of a downgrade then an upgrade…but then again its not like you dont get enough bauble’s if you know where to look for them.

Five times the cost for two times the effect? No thank you.
It’s actually cheaper just to buy another life than to fill two hearts.
If the trend stays, the next potion will cost 125 for four hearts.

when you upgrade, if you have 9 potions already, do those potions upgrade or does your potion total get knocked down to 1?

Just thinking that if I made sure I had 9 potions before I upgraded, I would save 135 baubles…

The potions upgrade.

Infinite Continue Coin > all the health potions.

Have the third version of the item be a heal + temporary invulnerability.

Or they could make it a “Fairy,” as in, when you die due to damage, you instantly respawn, once.

Btw, for those that want to get the “purchased all upgrades” ability without gimping their SAB main, I believe what you can do is get the baubles together on a secondary character and buy it. I had three characters that cleared 1-3 last time, but since most rewards are account bound this time I’m only bothering to play through with one of them now.

Kojiden.8405:

I’ll jump on the 10-15 bandwagon. That seems much more reasonable. There’s no reason for them to cost 25. It kind of makes me regret getting the upgrade.

Same here.

Not everything scales up equally. You’re paying extra for the convenience of restoring two hearts instead of just 1.

25 is way too much. 15 is too much too. I mean, you already paid 300 baubles just to have the thing. It should be 5-10. I never would have gotten this “upgrade” if I knew that the cost of potions would rise so significantly. It doesn’t make sense. Before it was 1 heart = 5 baubles, now 2 hearts = 25 baubles. 2x the hearts for 5x the price.

One argument is that now I can hold 20 heart restores (for 250 baubles) where as before I could have only held 10 hearts worth of restores (for 50 baubles)… I don’t subscribe that this is a valid argument for such a large price increase.

At this point, I choose death over using my potion. Death restores 5 hearts for 20 baubles….. At 4 baubles per heart, it’s a cheap method. To me, there is basically no inconvenience from running back from the checkpoint. AND I can hold 99 lives.

With 250 baubles I could get 10 medium pots (or 20 hearts worth), 50 small pots (50 hearts worth), 12.5 lives (62.5 hearts worth), or 5 continue coins (which is 6 lives per token = 30 lives total = 150 hearts worth).

I mean, if the cost is worth it to you, go for it. But it would be nice for us who don’t feel the cost is worth it to have the option of switching back to the small health pot.

Sheesh I would have never though of such a strong reaction to this upgrade. I saw it and thought “oh that’s kind of expensive, good thing I never use these”. Do that many people really rely on the heart refills? I find that there’s just an insane amount of free food laying around to never need it.

Why are you guys even using potions? You should be able to heal off drops, especially in W2.

The only time I ever used all my potions was on shortcut eagle.

Vol.5241:

Why are you guys even using potions? You should be able to heal off drops, especially in W2.

The only time I ever used all my potions was on shortcut eagle.

On modes other than infantile, health drops are rare.

I keep getting ravaged by the wizard. I just don’t understand what I’m supposed to do when he charges me because there doesn’t seem to be any way to block.

Kal Spiro.9745:

I keep getting ravaged by the wizard. I just don’t understand what I’m supposed to do when he charges me because there doesn’t seem to be any way to block.

When he hits 50%, he does his charge attack. I believe it’s 3 times per round. What you do is reflect his attack, but him, and then run as far away from him as you can. Circle the area along the edge. You should be able to stay away from him.

I fully agree with the OP.

I agree with the OP. If I had known that the Medium Health Bottle would cause my potions to become so expensive, I would never have bought the downgrade.

And I would have got the Major in Enhancement achievement by sending an alt to go get the Medium Health Bottle, and then had my main get everything else. This is the best idea for anyone who has not purchased the Medium Health Bottle yet!

As it is now, my main character already bought the Wooden Whistle, Nice Scoop, Chain Sticks, and Torch for a total of 1375 baubles so I’m not sure if I want to start over with an alt just to avoid the Medium Health Bottle downgrade. But, like everyone else has said, extra lives are now cheaper than health. The health vial has become useless, it is a downgrade.

Sure would be nice if I could choose which health bottle to use…

Zaxares.5419:

Infinite Continue Coin > all the health potions.

I’m sure that is the reason behind the downgrade, and why you will never see it fixed. Making heal potions too expensive for practical use pushes players a little bit closer to spending that $7.50 in the online store. And I never buy microtransaciton items that are put in the game to counterbalance a nerf. Feels too much like I am being suckered.

+1. That price seems ridiculous and unfair, as if punishing us for getting an upgrade instead of making things better. It’s like getting tricked into a bad deal when you don’t read the tiny font in contracts. I’m not even buying any potions anymore.

Eh. I got the Infinite Continue Coin because it took the pressure off a little of constantly making sure I had continue coins, and it lets me save baubles for more fun stuff.

Since I used gold to buy the gems for it, it doesn’t feel that bad.

Even so, I still think the potion price should be reduced slightly.

I agree with OP. Don’t understand why potions cost 25 – if you double the healing, why not simply double the cost?

Or just keep the cost and make them double effective. Isn’t that what upgrades are supposed to do?

It is expensive i have to agree but chances are you aren’t going to use them much anyway except for the first few time against a boss.