Guild Wars 2

I was checking The SAB merchant guy. And i Remember last time being Obsidian shards you could purchase with Baubles things.

And now there not there to purchase?, is this a bug or is this intentional…

would be really helpful for alot of players if they could use there baubles for obsidian shards for future legendaries, or ascended weapons

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

darn

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

If thats the case, then why the kitten did you make the chests/digs once per day??????
I just don’t get Anet logic anymore. Obi shards were the only thing of use outside of SAB that were rewards for doing SAB. Now the only thing in there is skins, which requires grinding, and we can’t even grind it how/when we want to, its stuck behind another kitten time-gate. Getting really tired of these time-gates and farming removal (gold ones I get, but SAB is only for skins, so why the kitten do you remove it?).

skullmount.1758:

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

If thats the case, then why the kitten did you make the chests/digs once per day??????
I just don’t get Anet logic anymore. Obi shards were the only thing of use outside of SAB that were rewards for doing SAB. Now the only thing in there is skins, which requires grinding, and we can’t even grind it how/when we want to, its stuck behind another kitten time-gate. Getting really tired of these time-gates and farming removal (gold ones I get, but SAB is only for skins, so why the kitten do you remove it?).

To Anet:

I have to agree – the LOGIC isn’t following here.

Don’t you guys have logic CHARTS somewhere?

If this THEN that – but why does it not follow in the game every single time you “add” or “subtract” something?

skullmount.1758:

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

If thats the case, then why the kitten did you make the chests/digs once per day??????
I just don’t get Anet logic anymore. Obi shards were the only thing of use outside of SAB that were rewards for doing SAB. Now the only thing in there is skins, which requires grinding, and we can’t even grind it how/when we want to, its stuck behind another kitten time-gate. Getting really tired of these time-gates and farming removal (gold ones I get, but SAB is only for skins, so why the kitten do you remove it?).

gem store is that way→

they needed to find a way to force you to buy the infinite continue coin, which people wouldn’t do if you could get continue coins on your own.

I think, realistically, this was made in an attempt to increase the ‘value’ of Karma, by making it so you can’t obtain Obsidian Shards via Baubles any more. Still, kind of sucks, but it is what it is.

Rising Dusk.2408:

I think, realistically, this was made in an attempt to increase the ‘value’ of Karma, by making it so you can’t obtain Obsidian Shards via Baubles any more. Still, kind of sucks, but it is what it is.

Yeah, I agree. I got most of the shards I need from orrian boxes over the weekend, but I was hoping to save my remaining karma and buy the rest with baubles. Oh well.

Well there goes my major draw to even really bother with SAB.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

skullmount.1758:

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

If thats the case, then why the kitten did you make the chests/digs once per day??????
I just don’t get Anet logic anymore. Obi shards were the only thing of use outside of SAB that were rewards for doing SAB. Now the only thing in there is skins, which requires grinding, and we can’t even grind it how/when we want to, its stuck behind another kitten time-gate. Getting really tired of these time-gates and farming removal (gold ones I get, but SAB is only for skins, so why the kitten do you remove it?).

gem store is that way->

they needed to find a way to force you to buy the infinite continue coin, which people wouldn’t do if you could get continue coins on your own.

Why would i need an infinite continue coin if Moto no longer sells the one thing I wanted?

I was telling people in my guild that they could get obi shards from SAB and they were excited about that. It looks like the Crystals and Philosopher Stones aren’t there either.

I don’t care for the skins or the mini’s but the things that were actually useful in the game (i.e. legendary weapon acquisition) have been removed. I’ve gotta say that’s a huge disappointment.

Outside of achievement points there’s no point in running SAB for me and I don’t need the points enough to waste my time with it. I’ll just use the time SAB is around to champ farm, run metas, do jumping puzzles, and get my crafting to 500.

This pretty much. The SAB rewards, they just look terrible to me. Now with the obby shards and forge items gone there is 0 reward for me here. Combined with the monetizing design it just feels like this super awesome thing that I loved the first time around is dead now.

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

So does this mean your QA team finally looked into the recent Progress-blocking issue with Balthazar??
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Temple-of-Balthazar-event-impossible/page/1

We’ve been begging you guys for a response on this for a month now :p

I love guild wars 2 but this really annoys me I bought an infinite coin on hopes of attaining obsidian shards but now honestly whats the point. Why grind for the skins were you can buy them on the market without grinding for them. Obsidian shards made me want to play SAB, but now I don’ really see a reason to even try. They really need to explain what they got rid of before people blindlessly buy the infinite coin in hopes of grinding for obsidian shards. I understand were they are coming from though because they don’t want it to be abused.

Ha ha ha ah aha ah ….ugh….

Great, just great. (/sarcasm.)

Account bound chests mean you can’t get the skins you want within a reasonable timeframe without using the Trade Post.

No Obsidian Shards, so hopefully you saved up on those from when Balthazar was open, if not, too bad.

No Super skins from the last time the Box was active, which there is no excuse for at all.

The adventure starts out fun but then it all gets sucked right out from 1-3 onwards.

Those design tokens could’ve been a neat way to craft the skins you wanted, but no—-they only work with tokens from Tribulation Mode. (Or so I’m told) And after seeing how frustrating it got on 1-3 and 2-1 on Normal, I’ m not even touching Tribulation Mode. And by the way, yellow and green recolors (not even full reskins, they just changed the color of the glowing parts) are ugly on the Super skins, to me anyway.

I was genuinely looking forward to this update..why did they just decide to make this not fun or worth it?

Without Obby shards and the like this is a waste of time.

Nilkemia.8507:

I was genuinely looking forward to this update..why did they just decide to make this not fun or worth it?

That about sums up all my problems, which are mostly just questions, into one.

Why nerf dig spots AND make them once per day?
Why remove the obi shards after nerfing the farm completely?
Why make the dig spots once per day if you removed the obi shards?
Why once per account lock the chests/baubles/digspots for the second half of a skin set that was easy to get the first time?

Make a new set harder to get, sure, but the rest of a set that was never fully released 10x more difficult to get? (Assuming the average player having only 5 chr slots and factoring in the subsequently-would-be-major dig spot nerfing that would affect each play through.)

So to sum up what we got:
Baubles are much harder to get than before.
Those lesser rewards are now only once-per-day-per-account (there is no more infuriating set of five words in all of gw2).
There are fewer rewarding items to get but they each cost as much as before.
There is apparently three times as much content to get through, at more than three times the difficulty, and the same amount of time to do it as last time before it’s gone.
Oh, and you only get one life at a time.

Even makes me feel bad for new players, who now have to play W1 with only one starting life… every time. That alone would have killed the fun back in april.
For me going from 8 alts farming daily the time it will take to get 1 skin is now stupidly ridiculous. Casuals actually used to complain about the number of hours it took to ‘farm’ a single skin. Back when it still took most people almost a week to get one skin.

I “farmed” virtually every day in april and managed to get 17 skins via Bauble Bubbles. I shudder to think how many days it would take me, and hours of doing the much longer maps over and over to get even one of each via the bauble bubble mechanic.

Of course I can farm the gold to buy one off tp in about an hour of champ zerging and already bought the complete set… utterly negating any reason to play the ‘game within the game.’

Because the Anet “anti-farm while we remove the ability to farm, but ad farms, and change mechanics to prevent farming this while we give out free gold/karma/skillpoints/acsended crafting mats/cookies to the farmers over here” policy makes so much sense.

This change doesn’t hurt me much as I find it a lot easier to come up with tons of karma fast than to come up with tons of baubles.

Well…
puts on sunglasses
… I suppose they really burst your bubbles!

I was incredibly disappointed when I looked at Moto’s stock. Nothing but skins. Last time he had practical items you could work for.

This alone makes me not play SAB anymore , why did they remove this ? It was the only good alternative to gather obsidian shards as the Temple Events are bugged to infinity and beyond.

ilr.9675:

Vince Ste Marie.2081:

Obsidian Shards are no longer available from Moto.

So does this mean your QA team finally looked into the recent Progress-blocking issue with Balthazar??
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Temple-of-Balthazar-event-impossible/page/1

We’ve been begging you guys for a response on this for a month now :p

They didn’t. Balth still inaccessible 99% of the time – and not due to lack of trying.

kinda agree, had like 400 obby last time, + a couple of skins.
I do infinitely love SAB and loved the update, but ya know with recent karma nerfs, + this maybe you wen’t a bit too hard with nerf hammer this time.
was needed for sure, but measure is must in these situations
or dunno you could at least give some new ascended crafting mats of whatever kind instead..

I wish there was a way to revert bauble bubbles to baubles. I don’t want any of the skins so now they’re useless to me. I saved a stack from last time and now they’re just taking up space.

If not the obby shards and crystals, I think it would be good to add at least something “from outside the box” to Motos shop. Myself I like SAB, but not enough to do it much now cause I don´t want any of the new skins or minis – not that rewards should be everything but still .

Bumping in hopes of feedback.

Out of stock,
15 Moto’s

A bit disappointed by the removal of Obsidian Shards from Moto’s stock, but I imagine it (along with the nerfs to karma gain) was designed to make Karma a more valuable resource (as opposed to people who had millions of Karma and nothing to spend it on).

Still, as someone who isn’t too keen on the SAB skins (I love their look, but they don’t match my character aesthetics) and isn’t a mini-collector, I would prefer it if Obsidian Shards came back to Moto so I have something to spend my Baubles on.

Bumping for great justice. Or lack thereof.

Zaxares.5419:

Still, as someone who isn’t too keen on the SAB skins (I love their look, but they don’t match my character aesthetics) and isn’t a mini-collector, I would prefer it if Obsidian Shards came back to Moto so I have something to spend my Baubles on.

I would prefer that as well.
SAB was fun to try since I missed it last time around, but I don’t feel encouraged to do SAB. Had the Obsidian shards still been available, I would at least have had something to spend the Baubles on

I’m not a fan of the skins personally. I don’t hate them, I just don’t see myself ever wanting to use them on any of my own characters.

I still collect bauble bubbles. I started into world 2 with exactuly 40 that I had left over from April, and was able to buy two Moto minis right off the bat, no farming required.

I plan to go into world 3 with quite a few bauble bubbles saved up, too, for later fun stuff. Who knows what they come up with?

I sort of see it both ways.

On one hand, for those who don’t care about the skins or minis or all the 8-bit fashion, the “normal” loot rewards made the event a lot more rewarding. Now there’s very little incentive other than a few easily ignorable achievement points and the challenge itself.

On the other hand, making SAB completely separate from the rest of the game means that you don’t HAVE to play it at all. A lot more people would feel pressured to play and use the rewards as a cheaper alternative to fund other projects – and thus the complaints and frustration would be even higher.

I was disappointed (since I missed the first SAB) that I couldn’t get anything of use from it, but now I’m sort of glad that it works this way, because I don’t feel like I would be playing it for any reason other than the challenge.

Also, I sort of wonder if they will make those items available again after the SAB is over again…