Guild Wars 2

MehWhatever.1248 says :

2013 will be the year of the Linux desktop and linux gaming.

After having played Team Fortress 2 beta, I’m now a believer.

John Yanez.5486:

MehWhatever.1248 says :

2013 will be the year of the Linux desktop and linux gaming.

After having played Team Fortress 2 beta, I’m now a believer.

Did I really spell Linux without a capital L? Yes, I did >.<
Fixed.

Since Windows 8 will apparently suck, I also believe 20013 will be the year of the Linux desktop. I dearly hope ANET reconsiders if Valve’s Linux port of Steam is successful.

Kain Francois.4328:

Since Windows 8 will apparently suck, I also believe 20013 will be the year of the Linux desktop. I dearly hope ANET reconsiders if Valve’s Linux port of Steam is successful.

20013? I guess someone will have to wait…

…showing support for a native client to Linux OS…
My reasons are currently exposed here under this thread so i only want to add a few links and comments to reinforce the idea…
.- To many distributions out there…
– It’s true, but the client could be developed to only one of them, i suggest Ubuntu for similar reasons to the ones exposed by Valve in the following link…
Valve
.- Worries about perfomance…
– Don’t worry, native client will run OpenGL and this one is currently better than Directx, see following link…
Faster Zombies!
.- Worries about graphic cards and support…
– Don’t worry again, things are moving towards linux world, graphic cards manufactures , AMD (ATI), Intel and Nvidia are working with Valve to make a better support for games, the following link shows a recent new from Nvidia supporting linux…
NVIDIA … to Linux Gaming
.- A lot of games are currently landing in Linux, so i believe people are seeing a marked there, in Valve today (12/Dec/2012) for instance there are a few games already supported, you can check them here:
Steam for Linux
.- There are more games besides Valve ones, but too many links to show all them here…

My opinion: In Linux, there are no good quality MMO, so just now, could be a good move to port the game over there because you probably get the all the linux mmo market, in next future, could be more difficult, currently a new high quality MMO is been developed rigth now and have linux native client supported, i will no put the link here, but the info is out here

Excuse my English….

I would love to have a native linux port for Guild Wars too. Gaming is the only reason i still have windows and what valve is doing is very encouraging, hopefully i will be able to get rid of windows completely soon.

Here’s another vote for a native linux client. GW2 is literally the only reason I have a Windows partition, and I’d sure rather not. Come on, Anet is the company that “dares to be different”. Let’s make this happen.

The Linux market will grow. Steam for Linux has sealed that deal imo.
I bet, that in atleast 3 years linux clients for all kinds of games will be very common.

ANet should atleast ensure, that GW2 runs fine via Wine (which it doesn’t currently).

I’m putting my support for a Linux client. I’d prefer to have one native, but I doubt anet would consider that. I refuse to use Windows and only run GW2 though playonlinux / wine. As I put in my support ticket, I’m rather upset with this game at the moment and refuse to spend any more money on it until further consideration is given. Mac has a client, and they use wine. How difficult would it be to use that same code to make it run on Linux. Considering how much money they are making from the gambling RNG games (a.k.a chests), you can’t tell me they don’t have the resources.

I found myself going back to GW1 more because at least that runs well under wine.

alcopaul.2156:

i would understand a Mac port. But Linux?

Computers are preloaded with Winblows. I would think that a Linux port will be necessary if at least half of the computers sold in the market is preloaded with Linux.

My computer wasn’t pre-loaded with anything. I bought my own parts and OS.

Moakist.5268:

I will sell my firstborn for a linux client.

sed ‘s/baby/linux\ client/’

TeeBeeNZ.1963:

If I was Arenanet I would wait to see how things go for Valve first. We should see the steam linux beta next month if all goes to plan and a small selection of titles moving over each week. Within 3 months or so there should be enough data to say of its worth it or not. I’d love a linux client, but Im also aware of the additional costs involved.

I’m in the beta and it works perfectly. It just needs more games for me to buy. hint hint anet

lorazcyk.8927:

With rawinput patch gw2 works really nicely on wine.
Only problem is there’s no gem store or trading post. So if they could make a way to have this for us, OR let us buy stuff on the gem store / trading post on a website online, outside of the game, that would help a lot.

This is because anet uses a hacked version of chrome. wine currently has issues with https based connections in chrome-based apps (windows version).

Skyliner.7436:

There is no “port” as such the whole linux client request is null.
The mac client uses technology based on WINE to run on OSX. Perhaps tehy added an installer, but not much more than that.
I pity the poor souls who get the game for mac. if performance under native windows is bad, I can only imagine how worse it’s gonna be on OSX.

That’s pretty much what I got from support. I suggested it.. they suggested I > /dev/null

ATA.5467:

using playonlinux with WINE is not restricted right?
because i am not gaining anything rather than not using stupid windows
clearly no advantage at all but i just want some kind of confirmation is its permitted or not

It’s permitted. I’ve been using it since closed beta.

Illiander.8049:

Rompetomp.1253:

I too would love a Linux port, or just official support for Wine.
I tried running Guildwars 2 with Wine and with Playonlinux, but I’ve had a lot of lag (between 1-10fps), and it was just unbearable to play.
I’m hoping for a fix, or better support for Linux, so I can finally get rid of Windows.

Low framerate is not lag. Which is it?

Lag shouldn’t really be happening due to wine. Check your internet speed on linux in general if that’s the issue.

Low framerate is likely due to not using your graphics card fully. For a very rough check of whether your graphics card is actually being used, run glxgears and check the framerate, if it’s under 10,000fps, look into installing the drivers for your graphics card, some linux distros don’t install the good ones by default. Also, you will get low framerate for the first 10 seconds or so after loading into an area, while everything gets background-loaded, but then it improves.

If you need more help than that, I’m going to need more information about your system.

The lag is due to anet’s changes to the GW1 client after GW2 left beta. It requires the game to be run on a single CPU.

The Pointless.3869:

Chamone.6890:

We have enough bots already without a linux port :/

This sentence make no sense. Are you seriously associating Linux with botting and tarring its users with a large brush?

That’s like associating all mechanics with illegal street racing. o_O

Is the little troll.. hungry? LOL That made no sense to me either. If anything, the Linux users I know would be LESS likely to care about botting.

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I think my head just exploded from the stupidity. This is obviously written as a troll, or by someone who has learned about Linux from reading Windows forums.

Illiander.8049:

So many misconceptions here.

When you’re helping Windows clients, do you tell them how to sort out their utterly trashed Windows system that’s been trojaned up the wazzo, or do you just tell them to reinstall and call you back? Why would anyone expect you to do anything but support your own software?

marnick.4305:

I know how our software behaves in a functional windows environment. If that environment has been altered too much, I will indeed tell them to try with a fresh install. Microsoft is kind enough to give a free VM XP with every legal copy of windows 7 pro so testing this is very easy (eg over Teamviewer). In Linux there is no common baseline.

Marnick, there is baseline in Linux — the Linux Standard Base (LSB).

“The goal of the LSB is to develop and promote a set of open standards that will increase compatibility among Linux distributions and enable software applications to run on any compliant system even in binary form. In addition, the LSB will help coordinate efforts to recruit software vendors to port and write products for Linux Operating System.”

I can take a program that is written for one distribution of Linux and run it on my machine with no problems. Most of the configurations take place in special . folders / files under the user’s own directory. All it would take is to delete that file to get back to a “default”, as you would call it.

It’s interesting that you mention Teamviewer. I looked on their website and they managed to figure out how to support Linux with no problems. Maybe you should call them and tell them to drop Linux support since it doesn’t fit into your world view. We don’t necessarily need a program such as Teamviewer because the software is built right in. In a few clicks I can connect through a secure tunnel to a remote client or, perish the thought, a Windows box over RDP. The only difference is that I can pull running programs from the remote computer and run it on mine in real time.

Illiander.8049:

There are two major layouts for Linux systems: Debian and RedHat. Most distros use one of those two. Also, you can build your stuff so that it doesn’t care. It normally involves rolling your own libraries in, which makes your software easier to support, as you then don’t have to figure out which version of libraries they’re using or where they are.

marnick.4305:

And yet for Windows there’s only 1. Should I tell my customers I only support RedHat? That would be even more of a joke. We could indeed roll in all those libraries, or we could use the ones that are already available in every windows based computer without hassle. In a world that revolves around making money, option two is the correct one. Theorycrafting doesn’t make money. I’m very sorry, and I don’t like it either, but that’s the sad truth.

Apparently, you never spend much time away from the Desktop do you? Have you ever searched in Windows for duplicate .dll files? I know for a fact that wininet.dll is duplicated many times in Windows XP SP3.

Developers write programs against a specific version of a library file as a known standard. This happens on any operating system. Including a library file on Linux would be no different from including this specific version of a dll on their Windows version. Usually, they will use a version that’s already out there instead of trying to reinvent the wheel. Developers, like Network Admins, usually take the route that accomplishes the job, with the least amount of effort. This is why they just go ahead and include the .dll / library file to head off problems users may experience.

In short, your argument doesn’t hold water. Please learn how your own operating system works before you childishly try to attack ours.

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marnick.4305:

If the Linux world can step up and provide one monolithic distribution that everyone is expected to use, it will become competitive for industrial use. Otherwise, it’ll remain a joke project for IT in their free time. We do have some of those joke projects in our “unsupported tools” folder on the company FTP. The name of this folder is pretty much key.

Why do you think that Linux is a joke, just because you don’t understand it? Linux by nature gives the users the freedom to use it how they see fit. “One monolithic distribution” will never happen because Linux users don’t take well to that type of oligarchy.

If you disagree with open source software so much, why would you even allow those “joke” tools on your network in the first place? Why aren’t you using something that’s officially sanctioned by Microsoft, if these “joke” tools aren’t as good? (A point on which we will disagree… but please.. Tell me.. I’m curious to know…)

As a personal aside and a modicum of professional courtesy, mayhaps your time would be better spent answering those 1000s of Windows users instead of thinking of devilishly clever folder names?

I don’t mean joke in a bad way. Linux is a very good way to learn the innards of computers. But on a company scale, it indeed is a joke because Linux development requires far more resources for far less results.

Where are you pulling your “facts”? The facts I see tell me that there are a lot of high profile adopters who switched and saved quite a bit of money.

I don’t want to type all of them out, so I’ll just give you the link where you can look for yourself. This not an exhaustive list, by the way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters

Highlights: The White House; The Navy and Department of Defense switched after a virus was found on their Windows server that controls drones; The FAA switched and saved $15 million; Burlington Coat Factory has used Linux exclusively since 1999; NASA; Dreamworks Animation uses Linux for rendering and artist’s workstations; New York Stock Exchange; CERN uses Linux exclusively to run the Large Hadron Collider; Amazon.com uses Linux “in nearly every corner of its business”.

If it is a joke, a lot of high-profile organizations are in on the punch line. This is not a list of people who use it exclusively on servers. Some of the companies and governments use them on workstations as well.

Linux is actually more efficient at resources than Windows because of the number of scripting languages that are natively supported. We also have the ability to schedule these scripts (jobs) to run at specific times, repeating or not.

How else are we supposed to take your definition of Linux being a “joke”, if not in a bad way? The fact that you would even make a statement like that, proves that you don’t know a single thing about the operating system.

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Illiander.8049:

You should really try talking to Google, RedHat or Canonical about that.

Then there’s the fun question of “When does a Beta end?” Would you consider any Windows OS from before it’s first service pack to be ready for serious use? Beta means something differeing in Free Software circles to what Microsoft means by it.
Beta for MS seems to mean: “We’re going to release this in 6 months with whatever bugs are left, and then patch some of the rest after you’ve paid for it, maybe they’ll be the ones that you care about.”
Beta for Free Software means: “We still have some major bugs in there.”
Most Microsoft prouducts would still be considered Beta by Free Software standards, wouldn’t you agree?

I wouldn’t, but then I value my sanity. Windows is barely usable after 3 service packs.

marnick.4305:

Which is why most of my customers are running the extremely solid and proven operating system called XP service pack 3. Some still use NT4.0 and there is no reason to “upgrade”. Just like no serious company will use Linux, none will use a pre-service pack Windows. We can pretty much agree on that.

See above — might I add, the military is not usually known for their sense of humor. They are deadly serious. They have to be, considering the defense of the country is at stake. The same with the White House. I disagree with your assertion no serious company will use Linux.

It is because the New York Stock Exchange switched to Linux that you are able to sit at home and buy stocks on your personal computer, instead of having to contact a broker on the phone every time you wanted to make a trade.

How many times have you had to do the yearly reinstall of Windows because it gets bogged down? How many times has your virus checker flagged a threat?

(I’ve downloaded viruses to my Linux machine to see what they do, but I view them now as an odd curiosity.)

XP is a joke. Try opening a 1GB text file in notepad and watch the entire system blue screen. Why are you supporting an OS (NT 4.0) that was end of life’d in 2004? Even Microsoft doesn’t offer security updates anymore. Security of company information would be a good reason to upgrade to something made in the past 10 years, at least.

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marnick.4305:

I know Chrome and Android is based on Linux, but the reason for that is because Chrome isn’t an OS developing company but rather an advertisement company. Google is known to allow their employees free time to program joke projects. Some of those become good, most fail. Gmail and Android happened to be joke projects that had potential, but all those other projects, you never heard of.

WRONG! Gosh, where to begin?

Chrome is a web browser. You’re thinking of Google Chrome OS, which is based on Linux, not Android.

You’re right — Chrome isn’t a development company. It is developed by Google.

Gmail wasn’t developed as part of an employee’s 20% time. It was initially created as an internal company email client and vast amount of resources were put into it.

Android was created by Android, Inc., not Google. Google purchased Android, Inc. in 2005 as a calculated tactic to move into the mobile phone market. The thought at that time was they should diversify the company and not have ads be the only / major source of revenue.

The only thing I mean with “joke” is that it’s not intended to earn you money. Please understand that. Developing for Linux can be good because it deepens knowledge of your software and the machines it runs on, but only the largest companies have the ability to earn money on Linux. Because of that, a Linux client for GW2 by default would be an implementation that’d cost Arena.net more money than it’d ever make through Linux clients.

I’m honestly shocked to hear you say this, because from the rest of your comments, one could be mistaken that you believe Linux is an object of derision. What do you mean by “joke”? You’ve used it several times, so it’s obvious to anyone what you really think of it. Why is it so hard for you to say, “It’s a great operating system, but it’s not for me”?

Developing for any computer will teach you about the internals of the computer, but saying only large companies have the ability to earn money on Linux is a false comparison. A quick Google search for “linux small business” pulls up over 60 million hits.

Every time the Humble Indie Bundle offers a package, Linux users come out at the same levels, or more, as Mac users. They pay, sometimes, twice as much as the average Windows user.

http://cheesetalks.twolofbees.com/humble/

There is an untapped market there, but the reason most companies don’t develop is that they are too used to Windows and still buy into the myth that there are only a handful of Linux users worldwide.

The choice being made is in the following: a 15 years old newbie installs Linux because it’s cool to hate Windows. His GW2 doesn’t work and he buggers support. The time it takes to solve his problem, could be used to check 20 hacked account tickets. Which path should a.net take? Even if I personally wanted to support the rare Linux question I get, I simply wouldn’t have time for that.

Seriously? You’re going there?? Not everyone who uses Linux is a 15 year old kid who ditches their homework for the lulz. (That’s not to say there aren’t 15 year old kids who use Linux, whom I am sure are quite amazing students!) As it is rather difficult to buy a computer pre-built without paying the “Microsoft Tax”, I would venture a guess and say that most, if not all, users halfway know what they are getting into.

What if the choice were the user who has a number of gaming consoles and spends quite a bit of money in a year on video games? Myself, I have bought every single Humble Indie Bundle solely on the fact that they offer Linux games. (In fact, between different deals, I’ve bought World of Goo three times just because I want to support the developer. I give the extra copy to a friend.) I’ve bought Pneumbra, Amnesia, Left 4 Dead and Portal 2, all on the mention there were native Linux clients or will soon be. This is not meant to brag, but to show that even someone who hasn’t run Windows at home in over 10 years, buys video games. How can anet afford not to support Linux?

I’m glad I’m not your customer. From how hostile I’m sure you are to your Linux users, I could only imagine how you treat the Windows machines who have the fifth virus this year.

Ugh, you make my fingers hurt…

kenshinakh.3672:

I’m pretty sure they read these and consider it. But that’s not going to make them suddenly popup and say they have a set date to get this done. There’s probably a lot more things they’re focusing their developing on than making GW2 for Linux.

Like.. what RNG chest they’re going to come out with next?

MehWhatever.1248:

1) 500 people is not enough to (commerically) justify a Linux version.

500 signatures on a petition doesnt mean that it’s all the people that are going to play GW2 on linux. Most of those signatures are probably from existing GW2 players who are booting into windows just to play GW2 (note: I’m one of them, but I havent even signed the petition because I didn’t hear about it until now).

Furthermore, commercial games being supported on linux is big news in the linux community — especially a AAA game like GW2. Most likely if ANet made a client for linux it would show up on all of the popular linux news sites and other tech sites like slashdot, and GW2 would get tons of exposure and people willing to drop $60 on the game that there are fewer choices for (Windows gamers are exposed to tons of MMOs and other AAA titles, whereas linux gamers have fewer choices)

Ignore that petition. Bug ANet to release the number of people running with the “dx9single” flag. Those are about as close to the real numbers as we can get for how many people are running on Linux now. Then add that 500-sig petition as “users who would run on Linux if there was support”.

But I’d still encourage people to play from Linux if your machine is up to it. I do, and the water’s lovely

I tell you what I would like to see a GW2 linux distribution.

debian back end that is tuned to play GW2.

Load it onto a USB3 thumb drive or portable hard drive and boot to it when you want to play where ever you are.

It could then be modified to the individuals needs (Mumble, Vent and other tools could be added)

Just a thought

Valve are doing that, but rolling in the hardware as well. Look up SteamBox.

Personally, I don’t like that idea. Too many ways it can go wrong. Not to mention I detest rebooting my computer. Haven’t done that in months.

Then again, I estimate it would take all of 20 minutes after that was released before I could just “emerge GW2” on my machine.

Illiander.8049:

Valve are doing that, but rolling in the hardware as well. Look up SteamBox.

Personally, I don’t like that idea. Too many ways it can go wrong. Not to mention I detest rebooting my computer. Haven’t done that in months.

Then again, I estimate it would take all of 20 minutes after that was released before I could just “emerge GW2” on my machine.

I tried GW2 on my rig using *nux. But due to the abysmal support from NVidia for linux drivers, I lost ~40fps.

After 2 hours of screwing around I managed to get it to run. And where I used to get 60 fps constantly on Ultra High, GW2 on Linux was struggling past 20fps, on all lowest settings.

Linux is by no means gaming-ready yet, and probably won’t be in the coming years, but once it becomes a system we can run triple A games on, it’s bye-bye windows for me.
[Mind you I have heard some users are getting excellent FPS on Linux, so it’s a so-and-so situation.]

From the dev’s standpoint, there’s so little support from hardware vendors it’s just not feasible to dedicate resources for Linux yet. Which is sad.. Somewhere.. A bearded penguin is crying…

I don’t play atm…because the game is boring…I’ll be back when you add Arena, duels etc…

@Zero Angel: You’re absolutely right. That’s what I’m saying, there are more people out there than the ones that decide to sign a badly written, nearly offending petition promoting a single solution out of many. A petition won’t help here, unless you get enough signatures from people who will buy the game again (Kickstarter style) to justify a Linux client.

@atomicblue: WHOA WALL OF TEXT. Seriously though, nice writeup, even if not really needed (IMHO).

@Illiander: dx9single is not required, and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t even exist any more. You can easily detect Wine from the code, e.g. by checking for HKCU\Software\Wine in registry, so if they ever want those metrics, they have a reliable way to get them.

@Jagaroth: You can’t push GW2 on Linux farther than it is right now performance wise without a (semi-)native build, if that’s what you’re aiming for. If you just want GW2 on a USB stick though, it should be easy.

@RageQuit: You’re blaming Linux on Wine issues. That’s to do with how Wine’s rendering pipeline is structured, which doesn’t allow for much OpenGL threading.

@Belias: is that related at all? Don’t think so.

@RageQuit:
nVidia’s drivers are fine. It would be nice if they’d open them up (both for them and for everyone else), but they work perfectly well.

What you’re having issues with is WINE’s DirectX→OpenGL translator. I wouldn’t be suprised if that’s the biggest bottleneck in playing on Linux atm.

See L4D2 for an example of performance for something that isn’t using that.

@MehWhatever:
PlayOnLinux includes it by default, and it’s still on the wiki. Would have thought a dev would be keeping that page up-to-date at least.

Illiander.8049:

@RageQuit:
nVidia’s drivers are fine. It would be nice if they’d open them up (both for them and for everyone else), but they work perfectly well.

What you’re having issues with is WINE’s DirectX->OpenGL translator. I wouldn’t be suprised if that’s the biggest bottleneck in playing on Linux atm.

See L4D2 for an example of performance for something that isn’t using that.

@MehWhatever:
PlayOnLinux includes it by default, and it’s still on the wiki. Would have thought a dev would be keeping that page up-to-date at least.

I’m not sure. It’s listed under ‘non-functional’ on the wiki … Anyway, the game is playable in Wine without it, and there are better ways to detect Wine.

Illiander.8049:

@RageQuit:
nVidia’s drivers are fine. It would be nice if they’d open them up (both for them and for everyone else), but they work perfectly well.

What you’re having issues with is WINE’s DirectX->OpenGL translator. I wouldn’t be suprised if that’s the biggest bottleneck in playing on Linux atm.

See L4D2 for an example of performance for something that isn’t using that.

Apologies, I did make a mistake on that statement. I am kitten off though… Linux is such a great system, the lack of games for it inexcusable..

RageQuit.5687:

Illiander.8049:

@RageQuit:
nVidia’s drivers are fine. It would be nice if they’d open them up (both for them and for everyone else), but they work perfectly well.

What you’re having issues with is WINE’s DirectX->OpenGL translator. I wouldn’t be suprised if that’s the biggest bottleneck in playing on Linux atm.

See L4D2 for an example of performance for something that isn’t using that.

Apologies, I did make a mistake on that statement. I am kitten off though… Linux is such a great system, the lack of games for it inexcusable..

Well, it’s pretty kitten excusable. After all Linux has like 1.5% of the desktop market. With the rate at which it’s growing though, I doubt it’ll be exusable in 2013. In unrelated good Linux news, Dungeon Defenders was released on Linux, and that means Icculus finally completed his Unreal Engine 3 port, which in turn means more games.

P.S. @whoever at ANet came up with using ‘kitten’ as a swear word replacement, I kitten love you, you hilarious sons of kittens.

MehWhatever.1248:

RageQuit.5687:

Illiander.8049:

@RageQuit:
nVidia’s drivers are fine. It would be nice if they’d open them up (both for them and for everyone else), but they work perfectly well.

What you’re having issues with is WINE’s DirectX->OpenGL translator. I wouldn’t be suprised if that’s the biggest bottleneck in playing on Linux atm.

See L4D2 for an example of performance for something that isn’t using that.

Apologies, I did make a mistake on that statement. I am kitten off though… Linux is such a great system, the lack of games for it inexcusable..

Well, it’s pretty kitten excusable. After all Linux has like 1.5% of the desktop market. With the rate at which it’s growing though, I doubt it’ll be exusable in 2013. In unrelated good Linux news, Dungeon Defenders was released on Linux, and that means Icculus finally completed his Unreal Engine 3 port, which in turn means more games.

P.S. @whoever at ANet came up with using ‘kitten’ as a swear word replacement, I kitten love you, you hilarious sons of kittens.

Yes.. It’s hard not to give a kitten.

Putting my support forward for a linux client.

Valve have been pushing the GPU vendors into making better drivers, and with steam on linux soon, we might just start to see the linux game revolution happening.

I would love to see GW2 be riding this first big wave of linux game titles.

Yes please! I am excited about next year – can’t wait for Steam to be Linux native! It’s pretty astonishing exactly how much more performance Valve was able to get out of Linux than Windows – I wonder if GW2 would see an improvement?

Alent.4780:

I am excited about next year – can’t wait for Steam to be Linux native!

Alakazam!

MehWhatever.1248:

Alent.4780:

I am excited about next year – can’t wait for Steam to be Linux native!

Alakazam!

You, sir or madam, have just blown my mind.

Alent.4780:

MehWhatever.1248:

Alent.4780:

I am excited about next year – can’t wait for Steam to be Linux native!

Alakazam!

You, sir or madam, have just blown my mind.

You, sir or madam, should totally subscribe to the mailing list

Alent.4780:

Yes please! I am excited about next year – can’t wait for Steam to be Linux native!

You don’t need to wait for it… Valve have opened the Steam Linux Beta Client for everyone. There are several posts in the web talking about that.
For instance see the following link:

Christmas Present for Linux Gamers From Valve

You can get more info through google.
;)

MehWhatever.1248:

I’m not sure. It’s listed under ‘non-functional’ on the wiki … Anyway, the game is playable in Wine without it, and there are better ways to detect Wine.

You know, sometimes my reading comprehension is terrible. I’d completely missed that it was in the “Non-Functional” section.

Is the gw2 client still running properly under Wine? I’ve tried it on my new Dell XPS 13", which I’m happy that Dell now offers without Windows tax. But, no luck. Whether running via PlayOnLinux or directly with the “dx9single” flag it has problems that I’ve been unable to avoid.

There is no lighting on the models in the chooser, and the game crashes immediately after selecting a face shape. Has anyone seen this problem and found a workaround?

Gwenanne.5674:

Is the gw2 client still running properly under Wine? I’ve tried it on my new Dell XPS 13", which I’m happy that Dell now offers without Windows tax. But, no luck. Whether running via PlayOnLinux or directly with the “dx9single” flag it has problems that I’ve been unable to avoid.

There is no lighting on the models in the chooser, and the game crashes immediately after selecting a face shape. Has anyone seen this problem and found a workaround?

I don’t think the integrated graphics chip in the XPS13 will be capable of running the game, even on Windows.

Well… did ANet say something about a Linux client until now? I’d really love playing GW2 on Ubuntu c:

Mouse camera control is a little wonky at times, but the game runs rather decently in wine right now. There’s a patch for the trading post issue. I don’t get the performance I had on windows, but it’s not bad at all. Porting a game to Linux is a lot more work than most people realize, even if they had a native Mac client. If they could put some work into making it work better with wine, or maybe even work with the wine team, it would go a pretty kitten long way.

mkaito.6981:

Mouse camera control is a little wonky at times, but the game runs rather decently in wine right now. There’s a patch for the trading post issue. I don’t get the performance I had on windows, but it’s not bad at all. Porting a game to Linux is a lot more work than most people realize, even if they had a native Mac client. If they could put some work into making it work better with wine, or maybe even work with the wine team, it would go a pretty kitten long way.

Not really. GW2 uses multiple threads for graphics, and Wine’s DirectX implementation is designed to work with one. To ‘fix’ this, the Wine developers will most likely need to rewrite large parts of their rendering engine, and it’s a pretty intrusive change that likely won’t be done in months, if not years. The reason for this is that Wine is always tested for regressions, so the new renderer will need to become more, or at least equally compatible before it’s shipped.

TL;DR Wine in its current state won’t help GW2, and fixing that will take time to make sure other things don’t break.

MehWhatever.1248:

Gwenanne.5674:

Is the gw2 client still running properly under Wine? I’ve tried it on my new Dell XPS 13", which I’m happy that Dell now offers without Windows tax. But, no luck. Whether running via PlayOnLinux or directly with the “dx9single” flag it has problems that I’ve been unable to avoid.

There is no lighting on the models in the chooser, and the game crashes immediately after selecting a face shape. Has anyone seen this problem and found a workaround?

I don’t think the integrated graphics chip in the XPS13 will be capable of running the game, even on Windows.

Intel graphics chips are really bad.

If you have the motherboard slot for it, I’d suggest getting an nVidia* card a step or two above the “recommended” and fitting it. But my experience with Dell PCs is that they don’t solder the connectors on for anything that didn’t ship with the machine. (which is one of the reasons that I never buy from “big-box” manufacturers anymore: no garuntee that I’ll actually get what I ordered).

• I’ve always found that nVidia cards get better support under WINE than AMD.

eddiecapp.1076:

Well… did ANet say something about a Linux client until now?

Yes, they said NO. You can check it in the following link:
NO GW2 for Linux

It’s a pity, the only reason i’m still running Windows is there is no a good quality MMO for Linux, fortunately things are changing, for all you Linux gamers, a new MMO is been developing right now with good graphics and native Linux support, so if you are an MMO gamer like me, soon you will have the possibility to leave Windows SO forever if you like. I had preferred to leave Windows with GW2, i like it, but it seems there will be no port for it. One tip for Anet: Today there is no a competitive market in MMOs in Linux, a port to a linux client could mean to pick a lot of new users, probably more than with the Mac port but, things are changing, other MMOs (at least one) are coming to pick up that market.
…excuse my English again…

Well, I’m already playing on wine with some glitches but i agree a native client would make it so much better…!