Guild Wars 2

Right now I am deciding if I want to make a new character of the same class, keep playing the race that annoys me or do something else.

I had thought I could do this quickly through crafting but you can not reset crafting skills to 0. And their is not a paid feature available to do this so my suggestion is add a way for us to do a race change.

It is possible in other games.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/arenanet-tracker/topic/243694-race-change-option/

Going to start posting this on every race change thread I see until someone finally get it.

Wait, what does crafting have to do with your character’s race?

Anyways, due to the personal story, changing races wouldn’t easily work. It could probably be done, but it’d take a lot more coding than its worth.

Crafting has nothing to do with race, I don’t quite understand what the OP means. If you make a new char crafting starts at 0 and if you want to change them you can any time.

If its legendary weapon you are worried about, make it with this char as they are soulbound on use not acquire as far as I know

The reason is that crafting is a super fast way to level. Already been to 80 on the class so was not really wanting to do it the slow way again. Personal story could be a pain although I would be glad to give up the personal story for this.

And the reason I wanted to rest it to 0 was some crafting is super cheap by comparison.

xCrusadentx.2784:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/arenanet-tracker/topic/243694-race-change-option/

Going to start posting this on every race change thread I see until someone finally get it.

Never thought I would miss blizard

A definite no to race change. Just try making a new character.

Zeefa.3915:

A definite no to race change. Just try making a new character.

Thats the most stupid thing i have ever heard.

Eviscera.9703:

Zeefa.3915:

A definite no to race change. Just try making a new character.

Thats the most stupid thing i have ever heard.

I second this. I’m sorry, but I already got my charr thief to level 80, equipped him with full exotics, runes, sigils, dark dye, etc. It really isn’t worth it for me to make a new thief at this point and reinvest all of this time/money just because I decide I would like his skin to be human instead.

I know ArenaNet said they weren’t thinking about this, but let’s face it…the community is begging for it. They say they listen to their community…I have few examples of this being true. If they really want to make their community happy and listen to them, this will be the thing to implement, even if it’s restricted to after you reach a certain point in the story.

(not to mention the money Anet would actually get from implementing this…)

@The Eternal Grace: Correction. A rather small part of the community is asking for it. The majority seems to be fine without. So it sucks that you apparently chose the wrong race, I am sorry. Does not take all that long to level a new character though.

@Eviscera: You don’t hear all that many stupid things do you.

Zeefa.3915:

@The Eternal Grace: Correction. A rather small part of the community is asking for it. The majority seems to be fine without. So it sucks that you apparently chose the wrong race, I am sorry.

lol really? because a) ‘every race change thread i see’ was something i seem to have seen up a few posts… that implies several ppl have been asking for it…
and b) um… you must not get around much. not being rude, but i hear at LEAST one person ask about (or gripe about) race change options every day. one a day, btw, is a high rate when you consider how few people bother to actually ask publicly, rather than look it up or ask in guild/etc.
c) and this is the kicker— really? i mean, you honestly couldn’t throw a rock without hitting someone who would like to race change at least one of their characters. the majority of the community may seem fine with it, but i assure you- that’s only what they seem to you.

Yeah I doubt this feature will ever be added due to personal story complications. Also, last time I checked crafting does reset when you make a new char, every char needs to raise his own personal crafting skills, it’s just the achievement that does not reset, so you can always power level him through that, provided you get some extra gold on your current thief.

Zeefa.3915:

@The Eternal Grace: Correction. A rather small part of the community is asking for it. The majority seems to be fine without. So it sucks that you apparently chose the wrong race, I am sorry. Does not take all that long to level a new character though.

@Eviscera: You don’t hear all that many stupid things do you.

Agreed.

Race change….. na, never heard of a Charr magically becoming a Sylvari before :P

Rly? Do you ever heard about some Charr (and any another race) female "magically" becomes to the Charr male and back?

Ent.1026:

Zeefa.3915:

@The Eternal Grace: Correction. A rather small part of the community is asking for it. The majority seems to be fine without. So it sucks that you apparently chose the wrong race, I am sorry.

lol really? because a) ‘every race change thread i see’ was something i seem to have seen up a few posts… that implies several ppl have been asking for it…
and b) um… you must not get around much. not being rude, but i hear at LEAST one person ask about (or gripe about) race change options every day. one a day, btw, is a high rate when you consider how few people bother to actually ask publicly, rather than look it up or ask in guild/etc.
c) and this is the kicker— really? i mean, you honestly couldn’t throw a rock without hitting someone who would like to race change at least one of their characters. the majority of the community may seem fine with it, but i assure you- that’s only what they seem to you.

Yes you are correct a change race thread does pop up about every 3 days, although that does not imply that a majority of people want it.

If 1 person asked about it per a day and figuring that game has been out for 7 months at 30 days a month ( taking into consideration some months have 31 and some have 28, that is only 210 people out of 400k player bases, I am not going to do the precise math but that is still under 1%

I don’t believe that there are as many players that would like to see a race change option implemented. But hey lets entertain your theory that you can’t throw a rock. So say that Hypothetically 310k players all want to see a race change out of 400k players. Now lets step back and look at how many players post to the forums. We will just throw out that 30% of the player base post on the forums ( maybe less maybe more). So out of 400k players that is 120k players post on the forums. If 310k players want this change that means that you would have to get 83k players saying they need to put in race change. 83k players is a lot lower that 310k players. So you have to ask your self if there are truly 310k players that honestly care about race change option they can take 2 minutes and post on a race change thread. I promise you that is one single thread got 310k people saying we want race change it would happen regardless of weather they were going to put it in or not. Although that isn’t the case, most people will never come on and voice their opinion about it cause in truth they really don’t care about it. If they are not willing to take 5 minutes out of their time to voice their opinion then they really don’t care.

Arena Net does listen to their players, but they listen to the Majority not the minority. Claiming that the majority wants this cause you see 200 different repeat threads with 100 post on it and the same people minus 2 to 4 new people are posting on it doesn’t make it an issue or a serious matter to look at. That is like being in a room with 3 people and asking who wants a red button and who wants a blue button. Then 1 person out of 3 say they want a red button That is 1/3 the people. That is the same as going into a room with 21 people and asking the same question and having 7 people say they want red, that is still only 1/3 of the people. Just cause there is a high number doesn’t mean that the demand of players is higher.

1: a few forum requests and agreements from the same pool of users does not represent the majority of the player base.

2: this would severely effect your personal story.

3: if you have racial armors you wouldn’t be able to use them anymore.

You are given 5 free character slots for a reason.

SilverWF.4789:

So there is NO any arguments against it: not in your posts, not in the WHOLE WORLD.
Only trolling.
You told about majority/minority, but wait: in the every thread like this more players who want it then who hardly against it. So, from your calculations, MAJORITY of not indifferent players wanna race change.

A handful is a handful no matter how you try to spin it. It’s an increadibly pointless and stupid concept. What I want to know is how it took 80 levels and then some to realize you don’t like your character?

I have a couple Asura, a Sylvari, a couple Charr and a few Humans. I have no Norn because I realized immediately that I don’t like the design of Norn in any way. I leveled one up to 30 for the soul purpose of completing the Norn story acheivements then deleted it because I find them awful. I didn’t come here demanding that I be able to change it into something else, because that’s an infantile responce. I deleted it and used the slot for something else.

Bailey.6892:

Right now I am deciding if I want to make a new character of the same class, keep playing the race that annoys me or do something else.

I had thought I could do this quickly through crafting but you can not reset crafting skills to 0. And their is not a paid feature available to do this so my suggestion is add a way for us to do a race change.

It is possible in other games.

Well I got over that problem by having 8 of the same character, 1 for each of the professions. That way never have an issue as to which character I prefer, only which profession. Of course it would be a problem if I went off of that character, but that’s unlikely because if that happens it’s not the character that I’ve gone off of.

Kal Spiro.9745:

SilverWF.4789:

So there is NO any arguments against it: not in your posts, not in the WHOLE WORLD.
Only trolling.
You told about majority/minority, but wait: in the every thread like this more players who want it then who hardly against it. So, from your calculations, MAJORITY of not indifferent players wanna race change.

A handful is a handful no matter how you try to spin it. It’s an increadibly pointless and stupid concept. What I want to know is how it took 80 levels and then some to realize you don’t like your character?

I have a couple Asura, a Sylvari, a couple Charr and a few Humans. I have no Norn because I realized immediately that I don’t like the design of Norn in any way. I leveled one up to 30 for the soul purpose of completing the Norn story acheivements then deleted it because I find them awful. I didn’t come here demanding that I be able to change it into something else, because that’s an infantile responce. I deleted it and used the slot for something else.

This is exactly how you deal with not liking a race. I am sorry but if you made it to level 80 and got all your exo’s and 4 crafting professions to 400 and 6 ascended items with two ascended weapon skins and a legendary weapon and you all of the sudden realize that you do not like that race, my only advice is sorry but you should have realized the personal flaws in the race WAY…… before 80. Not to mention WAY…… before you gained all the ascended, exo’s, legendary, and crafting profession max’s. I personally can’t stand the Sylvari, can’t stand them for the most part but I wanted one of each race so I now have a Sylvari mesmer level 80. It is a matter of choice, but because you can not decided at an earlier level you don’t like the race, you would like them to put in a race change? Maybe 7 years down the line they will, who knows. Although Blizzard didn’t even offer race changes till almost the 8th year of their game. They were never against the Idea of changing your race and it took them that long to do it, Arena Net a completely different company in how they approach the player base and everything else good or bad has already stated

Hi there, Bacon.

I am afraid that the team does contemplate different possibilities and new features for the future but this one is not among those. So maybe it would make more sense to just try with a Charr and discover in the process the attractive of the Charr world

That is from CC Eva

Zeefa.3915:

@The Eternal Grace: Correction. A rather small part of the community is asking for it. The majority seems to be fine without. So it sucks that you apparently chose the wrong race, I am sorry. Does not take all that long to level a new character though.

I never said I wanted a race change…I’m using that as an example. Also, a rather “small part” of the community is still a large amount of people, likely a few million. Your logic is like saying a very underpowered profession (which I don’t think there is any, but some consider ranger to be UP for example) doesn’t deserve a buff because only a small amount of the community plays a ranger. Kind of an ignorant response imo.

Question is does it really annoy you or are you just bored with it.

If it’s high level chances are you’ve got bored unless you’ve never been sure about it from the start.

I can’t play Asura because their ears bounce up and down when they run.
Norn too tall.
Charr too tall and bounce around when running.
Sylvari like the voice dialogue to start but found I’d gone off it a bit by level 27 (deleted that character).

So basically that leave human, female humans as find the males like in other games a bit too wooden when they run.

So yeah, I’m a bit picky but that’s why you try them out to see which ones suit you best. Sooner you find out the better.

ArenaNet does not need a majority, like stated above. Majority only matters on controversial topics that have one side or another, such as “Should Hundreds Blades get a damage nerf?” – There’s either yes or no, and it effects all players. Things like “Should race change be allowed?” really only effects the individual, and therefore does not matter what the majority wants as long as it’s part of the community.

As for personal story, like I also said above…make race change an option only after a certain part (maybe even after completion) of your personal story.

As for cultural armor, if someone has cultural armor, have the coding change to cultural armor of the same tier for the corresponding race.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Zeefa.3915:

@The Eternal Grace: Correction. A rather small part of the community is asking for it. The majority seems to be fine without. So it sucks that you apparently chose the wrong race, I am sorry. Does not take all that long to level a new character though.

I never said I wanted a race change…I’m using that as an example. Also, a rather “small part” of the community is still a large amount of people, likely a few million. Your logic is like saying a very underpowered profession (which I don’t think there is any, but some consider ranger to be UP for example) doesn’t deserve a buff because only a small amount of the community plays a ranger. Kind of an ignorant response imo.

Starters a few million players would make up more than the congruent player base that Guild Wars 2 has. Last time I checked Guild Wars two have around high 700k players. At the begin of the game it was 400k player base.

So in turn your millions is more like a couple thousand players. Although no matter what number you put on it be it thousand or millions if the over all number is 700k to 40 million the few thousand to 2 million is not a reason to put it in the game.

Azala Yar.7693:

Question is does it really annoy you or are you just bored with it

Does it really matter? If people are asking for a race change, they’ve obviously invested a lot of time and money into their character. Who cares whether it’s annoying them or if they’re bored of it…they want to keep the character but change the race. Not that big of a deal if gender and appearance can be switched that easily.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

ArenaNet does not need a majority, like stated above. Majority only matters on controversial topics that have one side or another, such as “Should Hundreds Blades get a damage nerf?” – There’s either yes or no, and it effects all players. Things like “Should race change be allowed?” really only effects the individual, and therefore does not matter what the majority wants as long as it’s part of the community.

As for personal story, like I also said above…make race change an option only after a certain part (maybe even after completion) of your personal story.

As for cultural armor, if someone has cultural armor, have the coding change to cultural armor of the same tier for the corresponding race.

The better option is the one they’re following. Don’t add it, then you don’t have to worry about all these nigling little details. It’s much easier, and those that had a problem with it will get over it.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

ArenaNet does not need a majority, like stated above. Majority only matters on controversial topics that have one side or another, such as “Should Hundreds Blades get a damage nerf?” – There’s either yes or no, and it effects all players. Things like “Should race change be allowed?” really only effects the individual, and therefore does not matter what the majority wants as long as it’s part of the community.

As for personal story, like I also said above…make race change an option only after a certain part (maybe even after completion) of your personal story.

As for cultural armor, if someone has cultural armor, have the coding change to cultural armor of the same tier for the corresponding race.

This is true a Player majority doesn’t matter here, you have a point. The only majority that matters is the developer majority. That Majority as of current say’s no. allow me to post the exact comment of CC Eva

Hi there, Bacon.

I am afraid that the team does contemplate different possibilities and new features for the future but this one is not among those. So maybe it would make more sense to just try with a Charr and discover in the process the attractive of the Charr world

Kaimick.5109:

Starters a few million players would make up more than the congruent player base that Guild Wars 2 has. Last time I checked Guild Wars two have around high 700k players. At the begin of the game it was 400k player base.

So in turn your millions is more like a couple thousand players. Although no matter what number you put on it be it thousand or millions if the over all number is 700k to 40 million the few thousand to 2 million is not a reason to put it in the game.

From what I have read, a few million copies have been sold, with this base 400k players being on at any given time, but as you said, that’s irrelevant. It’s a given percent, with my guess being at least 5-10% of players who would use a race change if possible. If those people’s opinions don’t matter, then maybe it shouldn’t get put into the game, but as I see it, it doesn’t effect those who don’t want it, so their opinion definitely matters and it should be implemented.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Azala Yar.7693:

Question is does it really annoy you or are you just bored with it

Does it really matter? If people are asking for a race change, they’ve obviously invested a lot of time and money into their character. Who cares whether it’s annoying them or if they’re bored of it…they want to keep the character but change the race. Not that big of a deal if gender and appearance can be switched that easily.

Just because someone wants something doesn’t mean they should have it, regardless of the amount of whatever they put into the current incarnation of it.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Kaimick.5109:

Starters a few million players would make up more than the congruent player base that Guild Wars 2 has. Last time I checked Guild Wars two have around high 700k players. At the begin of the game it was 400k player base.

So in turn your millions is more like a couple thousand players. Although no matter what number you put on it be it thousand or millions if the over all number is 700k to 40 million the few thousand to 2 million is not a reason to put it in the game.

From what I have read, a few million copies have been sold, with this base 400k players being on at any given time, but as you said, that’s irrelevant. It’s a given percent, with my guess being at least 5-10% of players who would use a race change if possible. If those people’s opinions don’t matter, then maybe it shouldn’t get put into the game, but as I see it, it doesn’t effect those who don’t want it, so their opinion definitely matters and it should be implemented.

WoW has 12 million subscriptions as of Febuary 2013 but yet their congruent player base is only 680K some. Copies sold and subscriptions don’t matter, people stop playing, the only accurate measure of a games success is in the congruent player base for the game.

Secondly this has been bugging me so I apologize
it doesn’t effect those
it is Affect not Effect sorry

Third you already made the counter argument to anything you can bring forth to this.

The majority of players doesn’t matter in this situation, unlike with hundred blades damage nerf. As I said before you are correct, it doesn’t matter the only majority that matters at this time is the developers majority of like or dis like.

So unless you can bring forth some major determining reason other than

• A lot of players want this
• I worked so hard and he is 80 ect ect.
• the players want it so we should get it.
  I don’t think your suggestion is going to carry any weight. Cause if CC Eva statement I posted doesn’t counter your argument which it will to 97% of the argumentative reasons then it will all be for not.

Kaimick.5109:

Hi there, Bacon.

I am afraid that the team does contemplate different possibilities and new features for the future but this one is not among those. So maybe it would make more sense to just try with a Charr and discover in the process the attractive of the Charr world

The best part of this is that while she obviously answered the question of race change with, no race change. She also obviously didn’t read the question since he made a Norn and wants to play a Charr and her responce was, learn to enjoy Charr.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Kaimick.5109:

Hi there, Bacon.

I am afraid that the team does contemplate different possibilities and new features for the future but this one is not among those. So maybe it would make more sense to just try with a Charr and discover in the process the attractive of the Charr world

The best part of this is that while she obviously answered the question of race change with, no race change. She also obviously didn’t read the question since he made a Norn and wants to play a Charr and her responce was, learn to enjoy Charr.

Well as true as this is, she is also stating that a level 80 norn changed into a level 80 charr would take away from the world of the charr, and in this sense if they allowed it they would never get to enjoy the world of the charr.

What they could do is do a reset where players redo the character creation process and recreate their character. All character stats, level, items and skills etc are kept except the personal story gets resettled. Since there is level scaling, replaying the story should still be enjoyable, if not more with all unlocked skills and everything obtained previously.

I am really against race change, but it seems many want it. At least i could understand a change only in appearance and race skills with a big mark in the personal storyline for the change (story is still the one of the original race). I am against it, but if they all really want it and you can make some money with it, just allow it.

Chris.6105:

I am really against race change, but it seems many want it. At least i could understand a change only in appearance and race skills with a big mark in the personal storyline for the change (story is still the one of the original race). I am against it, but if they all really want it and you can make some money with it, just allow it.

Problem is the personal story, it won’t apply anymore to that character.

I don’t see a way around that other than resetting the personal story back to the start. But even then there’s a problem as you start the character in your personal story. Might be why they’re not considering it at least for now.

If you didn’t want to change race of your character – what you all doing here?
It will be optional to anyone who want this. It will not affects YOU!

So there is NO any arguments against it: not in your posts, not in the WHOLE WORLD.
You told about majority/minority, but wait: in the every thread like this more players who want it then who hardly against it. So, from your calculations, MAJORITY of not indifferent players wanna race change.

How it will affect YOUR gameplay if I will be able to change MY race? Do you have any REAL points against it? Sure, not.

All I can assume - your envy to someone who can spent real money for the race change.

Chris.6105:

I am really against race change,

Why? Just why? envy? God, any REAL reasons? It will not force YOU to change race!

What it boils down to: “I don’t want to work for it. Therefore, give it to me.”

Actually, I would think from a coding standpoint that making a race change potion should be easy as pie IF you assign a value to every storyline quest for that character, then after the change you give the newly changed toon completion for x number of quests finished. As far as choices made in there, perhaps have a window pop up that gives you the choices. I really dont think it would be very hard at all. Im not even a programmer and can already think of how to do it.

Or, force the character to replay the storyline missions from the first one. I would be willing to do that and bring my 80 charr ranger back out of retirement (I cannot STAND ANY of the charr gear for rangers. A charr in any kind of top hat and coat is just plain stupid)

I’ll try to explain.
I’ve started my Asura thief far ago. I was noob in the game, just start Asura and nothing more.
Exping him to the 80th, geared up, played hard...

But, there was NO any warnings about Asura’s nearly invisible armor parts and weapons. I’ve tried many combinations but all was the same - very-very tiny ><
There was NO any warnings about Asura’s racial medium armor looks ugly (Human’s T3 med armor rocks for thieves). I was NO able to preview Human’s cultural armor with my Asura.
And I’m really bored to play Asura.

If against it (and you have real reasons, not just to be against something) - why you are not against makeover kits? Where is your posts "Remove it immidiately!’ ??
No any, so your hate of it is just for hate something.

Kaimick.5109:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Kaimick.5109:

Hi there, Bacon.

I am afraid that the team does contemplate different possibilities and new features for the future but this one is not among those. So maybe it would make more sense to just try with a Charr and discover in the process the attractive of the Charr world

The best part of this is that while she obviously answered the question of race change with, no race change. She also obviously didn’t read the question since he made a Norn and wants to play a Charr and her responce was, learn to enjoy Charr.

Well as true as this is, she is also stating that a level 80 norn changed into a level 80 charr would take away from the world of the charr, and in this sense if they allowed it they would never get to enjoy the world of the charr.

It does make sense, though… getting a charr at level 80 means your skin just changes to a charr, creating a new charr means that if you do the personal stories, you experience them from the charr point of view (at least until the point where you pick which order to join), plus you’re more likely to level up in the charr occupied areas, so you get a better idea of what the heart NPCs want and the kind of characters that live on it.

I’d like Anet to add a name change service but race change service it just ruins your personal story and how did you describe your character at the start which is too much I think.

I (personally me) did not any .... care about personal story.
All I need - is cool view of my character.
And I ready to spend money for this.

"race change service it just ruins your personal story"
how many times I need to repeat? If you have care about some roleplay stuff - there is no any forces what will force you to change your race, sex, haircut etc.!

SilverWF.4789:

I (personally me) did not any …. care about personal story.
All I need – is cool view of my character.
And I ready to spend money for this.

“race change service it just ruins your personal story”
how many times I need to repeat? If you have care about some roleplay stuff – there is no any forces what will force you to change your race, sex, haircut etc.!

then level a human character, we have showed you many reasons as to why we say no to it, I have also personally Posted a direct comment by the developers of Arena Net saying they have no desire to add this feature.

So when it comes down to it, if your ready to spend the money on a race change then spend the time your waiting for this " Race change" to be even a notion in the developers options and level a human thief. Spend the Money on gold and your back to where you started

You havent posted any reasons against it, only "No, coz I said this!"
This is no reason.

SilverWF.4789:

You havent posted any reasons against it, only “No, coz I said this!”
This is no reason.

Kaimick.5109:

Hi there, Bacon.

I am afraid that the team does contemplate different possibilities and new features for the future but this one is not among those. So maybe it would make more sense to just try with a Charr and discover in the process the attractive of the Charr world

I am pretty sure that is the only reason you need, that is from CC Eva Arena Net employee

Thanks for reading

I am against it, cause i think you should think about your charakter from the beginning. I am not too 100% OK with my charakters, but i would always find something new to complain about, so i will at leats always only create charakters that i will never hate. So I am even against make-overs. Also there are a lot of great armorcombinitions limited to other races, that my only clip with my hair or which dont fit to my skincolor, but I can live with this. I am annoyed by the slower animations of my Norn, annoyed of my tiny, non-human Asura, but I don’t hate them.

I am against each kind of Make-Over, but I also can’t deny, that many players wants them and Anet gets money for it, so Anet should give these kits even for racechanges, still, I personally am against them.

Character name and race change does not apply or directly affect anyone other than the person doing it, so if you have any qualms about it, the simple solution would be to not apply these changes to your character instead of trolling this thread about how you don’t like it and how it interferes with your game time online.

SilverWF.4789:

I’ll try to explain.
I’ve started my Asura thief far ago. I was noob in the game, just start Asura and nothing more.
Exping him to the 80th, geared up, played hard…

But, there was NO any warnings about Asura’s nearly invisible armor parts and weapons. I’ve tried many combinations but all was the same – very-very tiny ><
There was NO any warnings about Asura’s racial medium armor looks ugly (Human’s T3 med armor rocks for thieves). I was NO able to preview Human’s cultural armor with my Asura.
And I’m really bored to play Asura.

If against it (and you have real reasons, not just to be against something) – why you are not against makeover kits? Where is your posts "Remove it immidiately!’ ??
No any, so your hate of it is just for hate something.

But how did it take you to level 80 to notice you didn’t like the weapons/armor?
Since you can’t preview other racial armors I can kind of understand not realizing the Human set was one you’d want (though there are several armor galleries on the web I skim through before rolling a character).
I knew by level 10 the weapons were too small. Weapons are easily previewed at any weapon vendor, basic skins but they give a really good idea of the size of the rest, so I disagree that there was no warning.

I agree the medium asura sets pretty much universally suck, I’ll give you that (although, the Prowler crafted set and the HoTW set aren’t too bad, and the Heritage (HoM reward) set isn’t too bad either, though that too looks a lot better on a Human or Sylvari.)

As for the Race Change, I have to say I see too many issues, too many ways it could be exploited. I’m not necessarily against the cosmetic skin change of your character mind you.

Let me explain. If you use a Race Change item, and switch from Norn to Charr, what happens to your personal story? It no longer makes any sense, but if they simply reset the personal story that lets you get all of the story rewards again (BL keys and such), plus it lets you pick a different Order, which would mean you could go through the story, pick the Priory, buy a bunch of Priory skins, reset, go through again and pick the Vigil, allowing you to buy a second order’s skins.
Why is that an issue? Because currently the only way to get more than one Order’s skins on the same character requires getting a second character into the second order, buying the second set through them, and then using 12 Fine ‘mutation stones to transfer the skins to the first character (this is part of why you never gain access to 3 order’s sets later in the story)
So simply resetting the story would potentially cost Anet money.

Giving you the option to manually pick your “past” choices within the new race.
This could be used to unlock entire “play-throughs” of the story (and their related achievements) for however much a race change item cost.

Not changing anything has complications as well, just not exploitable ones. Because what happens when there’s new story type content? If you changed from Norn to Charr, but none of the story stuff was changed the game will still basically see you as a Norn, though you’d have access to Charr cultural armor.

If they were to get those sorted out I would have no problem with them adding a race change option. But it’s not as simple as people would like to think.

Edit: I would also like to point out that the make-over kits are actually cosmetic only changes, and as such do not present the same issues presented by Race Change, because as I pointed out a race change is more than just a cosmetic change.

Pointing out issues created by a requested change doesn’t make us trolls.

Zahld.4956:

Character name and race change does not apply or directly affect anyone other than the person doing it, so if you have any qualms about it, the simple solution would be to not apply these changes to your character instead of trolling this thread about how you don’t like it and how it interferes with your game time online.

The forums are an open discussion, from both points of view. Be it like the suggestion ( in this case ) or dis-like the suggestion. Everyone that has posted in dis-agreement with the suggestion have not violated the ToS in anyway.

Secondly why do people always assume someone is trolling the minute someone dis agrees with something someone said?

Lastly it doesn’t matter how much you like the Idea doesn’t change the opinion of the Developers. This is the simplistic break down of it.

• if the Developers leaves this up to the player base then ….
  The small % that re-post this topic again and again with say 300 people agreeing to it will not make up the majority of the players. Also re-posting a topic that has already been posted is a direct violation of the ToS (fyi )

• If the Player base has no decision in this matter and it is an developers call then….
  As I have re-posted many times over and at least 4 others have posted/ qouted a link that has a Arena Net Employee ( CC EVA ) stating that Character Race Change is has never been discussed as something that is in the mix for future changes. This also meaning at one point they discussed it and said no to it. Other wise I think the statement would have been, " We have never really spoken of this topic, although as of right now it has never come up, but is possible for the near future" Arena Net is great about not confirming themselves to one stand point unless they are sure 100% about something, much like their lore, and from CC Eva statement it seems pretty clear they have no intentions on ever offering Race change, in light of making people experience the other races culture and history and worlds.