Guild Wars 2

As with everyone else, I’m saddened and amazed that such a critical fix is STILL an issue. I would much rather see this resolved than have new content.

Oh we’re on page 8 of replies now? Over 10k views as well and I wonder how many +1’s? Does anet not revist posts they have posted on before? And bumpity bump! This needs to stay on page 1.

Started playing 2 months ago, and now starting to notice my hands hurt – then i realize it’s because i’m putting to much stress on my hands by hold down rmb CONSTANTLY.

Due to bad game design which causes physical pain to its user, can we take legal action against the company ?

Is this how CLASS ACTION lawsuit works ?

Milo Ais.5476:

Started playing 2 months ago, and now starting to notice my hands hurt – then i realize it’s because i’m putting to much stress on my hands by hold down rmb CONSTANTLY.

Due to bad game design which causes physical pain to its user, can we take legal action against the company ?

Is this how CLASS ACTION lawsuit works ?

LOL! It’ll be the Nintendo Mario Party lawsuit all over again!
http://www.omg-facts.com/Sex/Nintendo-Was-Sued-In-2000-Because-Mario/29698

I keep watching this thread hoping to see posts congratulating the developers on the fix. My level of expectation and excitment should this moment actually come to pass is similar to watching shampoo/soap adds and hoping the camera will accidently show something it isn’t supposed to.

Faux Play.6104:

I keep watching this thread hoping to see posts congratulating the developers on the fix. My level of expectation and excitment should this moment actually come to pass is similar to watching shampoo/soap adds and hoping the camera will accidently show something it isn’t supposed to.

Or you could just watch some porn… Or we could just go play WoW!

This deserves a bump because it is getting ridiculous!
The performance of this game is bad enough(* ie still feels like alpha), and we still have to endure a pathetic targeting issue which has over 8 pages, 11514 views and still no response from Anet for over 7 months.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I am getting really frustrated with this official forum not answering it’s playerbase.

They’re probably hoping the issue will go away if they ignore it :p

Another anet post on this issue would be nice. It’s still causing untold frustrations.

I’ve actually never had this problem. I’m curious exactly how others are moving around tyria (genuinely, not being sarcastic). I hold my right mouse click to turn as I’m running around, but use tab to target different mobs. Can someone give me an example of where this is a problem? Seriously, I just haven’t noticed I guess and am just curious.

Again I don’t know if this is the type of scenario people are talking about, but this is just a normal boring run of the Jofast event. Not my best super run or anything lol but just playing casually and looking for mobs. If anyone can point out a part or segment where the right click problem is please do so. If this scenario isn’t what people are talking about, maybe someone can give me a different example I might know or something.

http://youtu.be/53NPyLQmVt8
The time I posted this was still uploading so may take 10 minutes or so.

Geotherma.2395:

I’ve actually never had this problem. I’m curious exactly how others are moving around tyria (genuinely, not being sarcastic). I hold my right mouse click to turn as I’m running around, but use tab to target different mobs. Can someone give me an example of where this is a problem? Seriously, I just haven’t noticed I guess and am just curious.

Like you, I was used to just always holding my right mouse button down (which by itself is inane, and it does tire my hand) and generally just steered myself around like a FPS. The problem enters when you have to release that right mouse button for whatever reason (interface interaction, ground targeting, or any number of reasons), and have to press it again to continue moving. Anything that happens to be under your mouse cursor automatically becomes your “action target.” If it’s an NPC, you attempt to talk to them. If it’s an object, you attempt to interact. If it’s an enemy… you attack.

I came upon this while trying to help a friend come up with a good controller setup (for some people, mouse-and-keyboard will never be their preferred interface), because it required a thumbstick to simulate moving the mouse while holding down the right mouse button. Thus, every time they hit the thumbstick on their controller, the virtual-button would get pressed, and they’d start attacking whatever was underneath their mouse cursor.

I don’t understand why a toggle can’t be implemented. They already allow you to disable double-clicking the left button to interact. Why not allow us to disable the right-button interact?

If you hold the right button down all the time I guess it’s not an issue. Not everyone does that, personally I’d find it too tiring on that poor finger to hold the button down constantly. I only use the right mouse button to turn the camera and I don’t want to be doing that all the time. During a fight, for instance, I release the right button to use my fingers for other things. The problem, then, is that when you want to turn again, you have to actually check where the (nearly invisible amongst all the effects) mouse cursor is or take a chance and hope it’s not currently over something.

All it needs is option to turn the right-click selection of targets off. I’m amazed that this seems to be so difficult to do. This is the only game I have ever come across where this is an issue and I’m, frankly, astonished that it got past quality control.

I am actually considering risking a perma ban and putting in a macro to get rid of this issue.
Pretty sad that I have to resort to risky 3rd party software in order to play the game!
Right click targeting is inane when you have the same button for mouse camera panning.
Please Anet, no more new content. No more meet and greets. No more excuses. Fix the lack of polish that could make this game one of the best MMO’s out there!

I never saw your mouse cursor come up so I’m assuing you held the right button down the whole time. So you aren’t going to have the problem. I have stuff mapped to the scroll wheel and middle buttons, and it feels awkward to use three fingers on the mouse. I like to use the mouse to target when there is a large cluster of targets and there is a priority target. It is faster IMO than tabbing through the targets. Because of this I end up adjusting the camera frequently with a short click and release. To me this is a very basic request. It is like hardcoding the qweasd keys and expecting people to like that decision.

Geotherma.2395:

I’ve actually never had this problem. I’m curious exactly how others are moving around tyria (genuinely, not being sarcastic). I hold my right mouse click to turn as I’m running around, but use tab to target different mobs. Can someone give me an example of where this is a problem? Seriously, I just haven’t noticed I guess and am just curious.

Again I don’t know if this is the type of scenario people are talking about, but this is just a normal boring run of the Jofast event. Not my best super run or anything lol but just playing casually and looking for mobs. If anyone can point out a part or segment where the right click problem is please do so. If this scenario isn’t what people are talking about, maybe someone can give me a different example I might know or something.

http://youtu.be/53NPyLQmVt8
The time I posted this was still uploading so may take 10 minutes or so.

Faux Play.6104:

I never saw your mouse cursor come up so I’m assuing you held the right button down the whole time. So you aren’t going to have the problem. I have stuff mapped to the scroll wheel and middle buttons, and it feels awkward to use three fingers on the mouse. I like to use the mouse to target when there is a large cluster of targets and there is a priority target. It is faster IMO than tabbing through the targets. Because of this I end up adjusting the camera frequently with a short click and release. To me this is a very basic request. It is like hardcoding the qweasd keys and expecting people to like that decision.

Geotherma.2395:

I’ve actually never had this problem. I’m curious exactly how others are moving around tyria (genuinely, not being sarcastic). I hold my right mouse click to turn as I’m running around, but use tab to target different mobs. Can someone give me an example of where this is a problem? Seriously, I just haven’t noticed I guess and am just curious.

Again I don’t know if this is the type of scenario people are talking about, but this is just a normal boring run of the Jofast event. Not my best super run or anything lol but just playing casually and looking for mobs. If anyone can point out a part or segment where the right click problem is please do so. If this scenario isn’t what people are talking about, maybe someone can give me a different example I might know or something.

http://youtu.be/53NPyLQmVt8
The time I posted this was still uploading so may take 10 minutes or so.

Sorry, fraps option for mouse is disabled. I only hold down when I want to move the camera, otherwise I am just moving with my keyboard and adjust as I play. If I am in a situation where I need to keep running and use a skill I hold down both mice buttons (left/right) to run and tap a skill that won’t stop me and hinder my mobility.

I would like this fixed too, I use my camera while moving around the battlefield and dodging enemy attacks. The fact that I lose my target as a result is excruciatingly frustrating and unbelievably enervating. Please fix this soon!

Why is this STILL an issue.
This is a PC game, not a console game.
There’s no good reason we can’t rebind all the keys. I still want to stop left CTRL from linking skills that I click.

Any Devs out there still read this thread?

Stormcrow.7513:

Any Devs out there still read this thread?

Yep, I got a post removed for using the word “Bump” a few days back. I then re-posted the exact same post minus the word “bump” and nothing happened. Either that or anet just does a search for the word “bump” and removes any posts with “bump” in it.
And I’ll be surprised if you ever read this reply because I’ve now used the word “bump” five times!
Aw KITTEN!

The Ol’ _Ump and Grind

If you want the devs to listen to you,
this is what you gotta do,
_ump the post to the top,
just keep on _umping,
don’t you stop!

It’s better than trying to pray,
just keep on _umping every day,
if we keep _umping enough,
they’ll finally see this is serious stuff!

Maybe the mods will infract,
but I won’t back down, I won’t retract,
this right-click targeting needs to go,
it’s been 7 months, my gosh that’s slow!

We really aren’t being mean,
we just want this post to be seen,
eleven-thousand plus views and climbing,
I’m starting to run out of rhyming!

You want this post to go away?
Then fix the problem without delay!
So keep on _umping till they listen,
then we’ll finally stop our pi sin’ !

Chorus

Doing the _umpy!
Doing the _umpy, _ump!
Doing the _umpy!
Doing the _umpy, _ump!

Even Lesh, One Day Ago

1) I agree that targeting has been a point of contention around here since everyone has a different opinion on how it should work. We have not forgotten about this issue, but it is pretty low priority, unfortunately. This polish would fall under the umbrella of a combat team.

Source

Implying the Devs don’t know or care about this situation… but then I guess following the Dev tracker takes a lot of work for some people.

Ratphink.4751:

Even Lesh, One Day Ago

1) I agree that targeting has been a point of contention around here since everyone has a different opinion on how it should work. We have not forgotten about this issue, but it is pretty low priority, unfortunately. This polish would fall under the umbrella of a combat team.

Source

Implying the Devs don’t know or care about this situation… but then I guess following the Dev tracker takes a lot of work for some people.

I think folks are primarily just asking for a toggle for the behavior. The quote says “everyone has a different opinion on how it should work” which is true, but if a toggle option is implemented, then everyone can have it set the way they prefer.

the title should change to “disable right click targeting”, remove the “option to”

or simply, put back what was working in GW1 into GW2

Ratphink.4751:

Even Lesh, One Day Ago

1) I agree that targeting has been a point of contention around here since everyone has a different opinion on how it should work. We have not forgotten about this issue, but it is pretty low priority, unfortunately. This polish would fall under the umbrella of a combat team.

Source

Implying the Devs don’t know or care about this situation… but then I guess following the Dev tracker takes a lot of work for some people.

This suggestion, which wasn’t the first btw, is 7-months old. That’s 7 months of tracking this issue for some players and you’re wagging your finger because it popped up a day ago in the dev tracker? That’s just unfair. Also, that response, from 1 day ago, in a completely different section, says that it’s a low priority and classifies it as “polish.” That actually proves that they don’t care much about it because they said as much – it’s low priority polish.

1) Didn’t use the Dev Tracker actually. I just browse a LOT of Forums, even for parts of the game I don’t actively participate in (PvP and WvW in this case) because I like to stay on top of Class Perceptions and Balance Issues that could effect other parts of the game. I found this thread yesterday in that meandering.

2) If you’re demanding for a Dev Response to something, why aren’t you watching the Dev Tracker? That’s what it’s there for. To Track Dev Response to issues. Yes, I realize the majority of them are by Gaile in the Account Issues forum, but the fact remains it’s your best source of watching what the Devs are up to on the Forums.

3) Low Priority =/= Doesn’t Care. It means that at the moment, there are simply more important things to work on such as class balance issues and getting sPvP up to snuff. This is a world where limited resources mean that you have to pick what you do wisely, and because they do not pick what you want to do first and foremost doesn’t mean that they don’t care it means that they can’t do it yet. The fact that the subject itself is a point of contention means that it’s been a debated topic on numerous occasions. You don’t have numerous debates about something you don’t care about.

Ratphink.4751:

1) Didn’t use the Dev Tracker actually. I just browse a LOT of Forums, even for parts of the game I don’t actively participate in (PvP and WvW in this case) because I like to stay on top of Class Perceptions and Balance Issues that could effect other parts of the game. I found this thread yesterday in that meandering.

2) If you’re demanding for a Dev Response to something, why aren’t you watching the Dev Tracker? That’s what it’s there for. To Track Dev Response to issues. Yes, I realize the majority of them are by Gaile in the Account Issues forum, but the fact remains it’s your best source of watching what the Devs are up to on the Forums.

3) Low Priority =/= Doesn’t Care. It means that at the moment, there are simply more important things to work on such as class balance issues and getting sPvP up to snuff. This is a world where limited resources mean that you have to pick what you do wisely, and because they do not pick what you want to do first and foremost doesn’t mean that they don’t care it means that they can’t do it yet. The fact that the subject itself is a point of contention means that it’s been a debated topic on numerous occasions. You don’t have numerous debates about something you don’t care about.

Why are players not watching the Dev Tracker for 7 months for a single issue with this many responses? That’s a completely unreasonable expectation is why.

It’s not really a point of contention among players. Players are pretty much aligned on the issue.

They’re not taking care of it, which is all that matters. Couch that in whatever terminology makes you feel better, but it doesn’t change anything for players that it affects or the players that don’t even realize that’s what is causing their problem.

Your patronizing and unreasonable expectations for others is part of what makes this whole forum so toxic. You could have shared the information without the unnecessarily snotty comment, but you didn’t. You and every Pollyanna poster like you should be ashamed.

Evan Lesh.3295:

1) I agree that targeting has been a point of contention around here since everyone has a different opinion on how it should work. We have not forgotten about this issue, but it is pretty low priority, unfortunately. This polish would fall under the umbrella of a combat team.

There is no point of contention. Those posting in this thread are largely unanimous in their criticism of mouse right-click targeting. If the devs feel there is some advantage to keeping it the way it is, then simply add a toggle for those of us who don’t want it.

In a game in which a large portion of it is devoted to killing virtual foes, the ability to accurately and consistently target a foe and remain locked on that target is a fundamental precept; not a polish issue.

Some other fundamental precepts:

1) Don’t tie two unrelated functions (such as targeting and character movement) to the same control by default. Instead, tie each function to a discreet control. For example, you don’t press the H key open your hero panel and witness your inventory panel open at the same time, right? So why are movement and target selection tied to the same mouse right-click?

2) Allow players to customize their controls as they see fit. This way, if #1 is violated, then at least players have the option to correct the situation by changing the default control setup.

Perhaps the devs have some sound reasons for tying mouse right-click targeting and movement together. I can’t personally think of a good one, but I’d be curious to hear their arguments in favor of it. Instead, all we get is it “has been a point of contention around here since everyone has a different opinion on how it should work”. Care to share those opinions with us so we – as players – can then discuss the pros and cons?

The only reason I can think of – outside of simply running out of time before launch and it being pushed down the list as lower priority when compared to game breaking bugs – is they don’t want more seasoned players with the skill and experience to target while in motion having an advantage over more casual players. Thus, the two functions were tied to one control and made immutable so as to level the playing field.

As far fetched at that sounds, in the absence of dev feedback it’s the only explanation I can think of outside of technical limitations (which would be a lame excuse) or simply running out of time to implement it before launch (which would be understandable; but after 7 months it’s time to fix it).

Kraag Deadsoul.2789:

Perhaps the devs have some sound reasons for tying mouse right-click targeting and movement together. I can’t personally think of a good one, but I’d be curious to hear their arguments in favor of it. Instead, all we get is it “has been a point of contention around here since everyone has a different opinion on how it should work”. Care to share those opinions with us so we – as players – can then discuss the pros and cons?

A toggle would make both sides of this argument happy. That’s al we want. If the devs want it to be the default that’s fine, Just give us the option to turn it off if we don’t like it!

lunawisp.2378:

Gstraight into the wall. How this can be considered anything but a bug is beyond me. It’s the single most annoying thing I have EVER seen in any game.

Not a bug—just shoddy planning and programming. Heck I’d be happy if ‘closest target’ was automatically locked on.

Kraag Deadsoul.2789:

The Ol’ _Ump and Grind

If you want the devs to listen to you,
this is what you gotta do,
_ump the post to the top,
just keep on _umping,
don’t you stop!

It’s better than trying to pray,
just keep on _umping every day,
if we keep _umping enough,
they’ll finally see this is serious stuff!

Maybe the mods will infract,
but I won’t back down, I won’t retract,
this right-click targeting needs to go,
it’s been 7 months, my gosh that’s slow!

We really aren’t being mean,
we just want this post to be seen,
eleven-thousand plus views and climbing,
I’m starting to run out of rhyming!

You want this post to go away?
Then fix the problem without delay!
So keep on _umping till they listen,
then we’ll finally stop our pi sin’ !

Chorus

Doing the _umpy!
Doing the _umpy, _ump!
Doing the _umpy!
Doing the _umpy, _ump!

You know the issue is pretty bad when it gets its own rap.
Still no response from a dev. Please guys, any response would be awesome!

Stormcrow.7513:

Kraag Deadsoul.2789:

The Ol’ _Ump and Grind

If you want the devs to listen to you,
this is what you gotta do,
_ump the post to the top,
just keep on _umping,
don’t you stop!

It’s better than trying to pray,
just keep on _umping every day,
if we keep _umping enough,
they’ll finally see this is serious stuff!

Maybe the mods will infract,
but I won’t back down, I won’t retract,
this right-click targeting needs to go,
it’s been 7 months, my gosh that’s slow!

We really aren’t being mean,
we just want this post to be seen,
eleven-thousand plus views and climbing,
I’m starting to run out of rhyming!

You want this post to go away?
Then fix the problem without delay!
So keep on _umping till they listen,
then we’ll finally stop our pi sin’ !

Chorus

Doing the _umpy!
Doing the _umpy, _ump!
Doing the _umpy!
Doing the _umpy, _ump!

You know the issue is pretty bad when it gets its own rap.
Still no response from a dev. Please guys, any response would be awesome!

I get the feeling once they reply to a topic once they ignore it from then on.

+1 need fix this pls

I still annoying of this side effect of right mouse button…

I’ve just given up at this point and resigned myself to a more spastic playstyle in W3 where I randomly attack anything within range like a crazy man.

It’s actually not a bad way to fight…if you don’t mind chaos.

Obsidian.1328:

I’ve just given up at this point and resigned myself to a more spastic playstyle in W3 where I randomly attack anything within range like a crazy man.

It’s actually not a bad way to fight…if you don’t mind chaos.

The problem is it isn’t chaos, it’s poor implementation of a targeting function.

True targeting chaos is fighting a mesmer and not knowing which one is the real one. You target a clone and attack that clone because you mistakenly believe it to be the real mesmer. That’s perfectly acceptable and working as intended; the player is still attacking the target they intended to attack (even if it’s the wrong one).

Conversely, locking on to a target I fully intend to attack, only to lose that target due to the mouse right-click issue, is poor game design. I know what target I want to attack, I’ve already selected that target, and I’m attempting to attack that target. Then – whoops! – because targeting has been tied to a control that also moves my character, I lose my intended target as a result of a broken game mechanic. I didn’t lose my target; my eyes are still tracking it on the screen and my fingers are using the controls available to me in an attempt to engage that target. It’s a faulty game mechanic that lost my target.

Controls in a game should be subservient to the player, not the other way around. If a game requires a player lock onto targets to be able to attack them, then the controls should make this is as simple as possible for the player. The goal should not be forcing a player to jump through hoops to use the controls but, instead, support the player’s efforts to accomplish their own goals in the game. The transition from the real world, to the control interface, to the virtual world should be as intuitive, seamless, and unobtrusive as possible. Is there a learning curve? Sure. But once learned, the control interface should never be a stumbling block from that point forward.

I’m not QQ-ing because I’m losing; to the contrary, I do quite well in the game. I’m all for making the combat visceral and action-packed. However, the mouse right-click targeting function is not the way to achieve that goal. It is a burdensome annoyance detracting from enjoyment of the game, has no rational reason for being there, and is easily fixed if the devs would simply include a toggle to turn it off.

Is it game breaking? No. Is it a frustrating and ill-conceived control set-up requiring unnecessary work-arounds on the part of the player which takes some of the fun out of the game? IMHO, a most definite “Yes”!

.. why isnt this fixed yet?

Well I’m glad they fixed this problem so quickly, I mean it’s been there since release and…

…wait, hang on… it’s still not fixed? WHAT?! All targeting is still broken?!

This is very annoying. I came back after few weeks away to play some dungeons and relax but this right click selection in the middle of the combat when I just want to move the camera is so annoying I gave up after 2 dungeons.

It just ruins the gameplay. I think I’m not coming back until I see in patch notes that this has been fixed. Just a simple tick in options to disable selection with right click would do.

I really don’t understand how this is not a top priority issue to developers. I thought they played the game.

iwan.8327:

This is very annoying. I came back after few weeks away to play some dungeons and relax but this right click selection in the middle of the combat when I just want to move the camera is so annoying I gave up after 2 dungeons.

It just ruins the gameplay. I think I’m not coming back until I see in patch notes that this has been fixed. Just a simple tick in options to disable selection with right click would do.

I really don’t understand how this is not a top priority issue to developers. I thought they played the game.

Maybe because not everyone has this problem. I never even noticed this was a problem for people until this thread. And there are far more important things to be working on right now. If the right click button is a reason for someone to leave a game, then they probably don’t belong here anyway.

Geotherma.2395:

Maybe because not everyone has this problem. I never even noticed this was a problem for people until this thread. And there are far more important things to be working on right now. If the right click button is a reason for someone to leave a game, then they probably don’t belong here anyway.

What do you mean? You can’t concentrate dps or control where you want when your targets constantly get changed just because your mouse cursor was over some other target when you just want to move the camera/character. How is that not an important issue?

iwan.8327:

Geotherma.2395:

Maybe because not everyone has this problem. I never even noticed this was a problem for people until this thread. And there are far more important things to be working on right now. If the right click button is a reason for someone to leave a game, then they probably don’t belong here anyway.

What do you mean? You can’t concentrate dps or control where you want when your targets constantly get changed just because your mouse cursor was over some other target when you just want to move the camera/character. How is that not an important issue?

Not “as” important, and again doesn’t happen to everyone. “Can’t” is also a very strong word.

Geotherma.2395:

Not “as” important, and again doesn’t happen to everyone. “Can’t” is also a very strong word.

Do you mind saying how do you avoid that issue?

Geotherma.2395:

iwan.8327:

Geotherma.2395:

Maybe because not everyone has this problem. I never even noticed this was a problem for people until this thread. And there are far more important things to be working on right now. If the right click button is a reason for someone to leave a game, then they probably don’t belong here anyway.

What do you mean? You can’t concentrate dps or control where you want when your targets constantly get changed just because your mouse cursor was over some other target when you just want to move the camera/character. How is that not an important issue?

Not “as” important, and again doesn’t happen to everyone. “Can’t” is also a very strong word.

It’s kitten important because it’s a fundamental problem with targeting. Maybe you hold down the right mouse button constantly, maybe you never touch the right mouse key for whatever reason, but the fact is that many people use the right mouse butto to rotate the camera. And having anything under the cusor (which you can’t see when right clicking) when you relase it becoming the new target is down right infuriation.
People aren’t even asking for it to be removed, they just want a friken toggle. How hard is that?
Get off your high horse just because this problem doesn’t effect you. People should be able to remap all keys and functions, this is a PC game after all.

iwan.8327:

Geotherma.2395:

Not “as” important, and again doesn’t happen to everyone. “Can’t” is also a very strong word.

Do you mind saying how do you avoid that issue?

I’m not really sure exactly lol.. I was so lost on how people have this that I had to ask someone to explain it to me on the forum..

I use right click to rotate my camera as I’m fighting, in combination with both l/r held down at times to run forward through mobs. I’m always using the right click button to swirl the camera as I kite things in a circle also to evade in whatever direction I want. I click the screen to adjust the camera and don’t really end up changing targets unless I want to via [tab].

I like the idea.
Something else I’d like even more would be the ability to bind camera movement to a key instead of right clicking. Like middle click, or even X or Tab or something.
I don’t like that it causes issues if the cursor is over the UI or an NPC or something when I press it because of right click having multiple functions attached.

I didn’t even know this was the cause of so many of my issues… It really kitten es me off at this point to find this out because I use the mouse for camera rotation all the stinking time! Just… rrr…. what a kitten stinking kitten game feature.

Geotherma.2395:

I’m not really sure exactly lol.. I was so lost on how people have this that I had to ask someone to explain it to me on the forum..

I use right click to rotate my camera as I’m fighting, in combination with both l/r held down at times to run forward through mobs. I’m always using the right click button to swirl the camera as I kite things in a circle also to evade in whatever direction I want. I click the screen to adjust the camera and don’t really end up changing targets unless I want to via [tab].

It should be impossible for you to not have had this issue, if you use right mouse button to adjust the camera. Because it happens to everyone. So maybe you simply didn’t notice.

But since you use tab to cycle targets, you would not have noticed the other problem with targeting. Which is, that click-targeting is extremely unreliable. You could be clicking on a foe big enough to fill the screen, and the game would refuse to select it.

These are core problems with the game’s combat system, which is why they should have the highest priority. The game is all about combat. How can they ignore this problem?

Time for another bump, this is what makes targetting in GW so terrible. Seems like a really easy fix that would make so many people happy. Considering you can’t mark targets if you’re not in a party either, I really don’t see how anyone ever thought having 2 buttons for the same thing, essentially ruining targetting by losing your target every time you move your camera, was a good idea.

Would really like an official update on this.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Geotherma.2395:

I’m not really sure exactly lol.. I was so lost on how people have this that I had to ask someone to explain it to me on the forum..

I use right click to rotate my camera as I’m fighting, in combination with both l/r held down at times to run forward through mobs. I’m always using the right click button to swirl the camera as I kite things in a circle also to evade in whatever direction I want. I click the screen to adjust the camera and don’t really end up changing targets unless I want to via [tab].

It should be impossible for you to not have had this issue, if you use right mouse button to adjust the camera. Because it happens to everyone. So maybe you simply didn’t notice.

But since you use tab to cycle targets, you would not have noticed the other problem with targeting. Which is, that click-targeting is extremely unreliable. You could be clicking on a foe big enough to fill the screen, and the game would refuse to select it.

These are core problems with the game’s combat system, which is why they should have the highest priority. The game is all about combat. How can they ignore this problem?

Why would anyone click target? Every MMO I have ever played I got yelled at for “clicking skills”. In GW2 I don’t need to click skills really, and it seems inefficient to click targets when tab is much more convenient. With targets like in wvw moving so fast, relying on such a method seems pointless. I have a video of me just farming in orr above somewhere, but fraps option for mouse cursor was off. I can do another one with it on, but clicking mobs just seems… meh. Though this is my personal style, I understand others troubles.

I don’t even click any of the bosses because that seems pointless, tab won’t select players, it will only select mobs. So I don’t know why people would try and click through a culling-storm of players when they can use tab.

Also, yesterday I purposely tested this just to see what others had a problem with. And as far as I could tell the only time it selects an npc etc is when you release the right button. So even if you click to move and are over an npc, it is where you let go that maters. I have to double check this to make sure, but I believe that’s what happened.

Geotherma.2395:

I don’t even click any of the bosses because that seems pointless, tab won’t select players, it will only select mobs. So I don’t know why people would try and click through a culling-storm of players when they can use tab.

The problem occurs however also with gigantic bosses. I’m talking targets that are so big that you can’t possibly miss them when clicking them… and STILL the game fails to select the target 50% of the time. (maybe more)

Geotherma.2395:

Also, yesterday I purposely tested this just to see what others had a problem with. And as far as I could tell the only time it selects an npc etc is when you release the right button. So even if you click to move and are over an npc, it is where you let go that maters. I have to double check this to make sure, but I believe that’s what happened.

The problem is not so much with selecting npc’s, but with foes. You could be in Fractals, with the Jade Maw selected, ready to throw that charged crystal… and then all of a sudden the game selects something else. THIS is the problem people are mostly discussing in this topic. It happens throughout the game. Adjust the camera, stuff is deselected.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Geotherma.2395:

I don’t even click any of the bosses because that seems pointless, tab won’t select players, it will only select mobs. So I don’t know why people would try and click through a culling-storm of players when they can use tab.

The problem occurs however also with gigantic bosses. I’m talking targets that are so big that you can’t possibly miss them when clicking them… and STILL the game fails to select the target 50% of the time. (maybe more)

Geotherma.2395:

Also, yesterday I purposely tested this just to see what others had a problem with. And as far as I could tell the only time it selects an npc etc is when you release the right button. So even if you click to move and are over an npc, it is where you let go that maters. I have to double check this to make sure, but I believe that’s what happened.

The problem is not so much with selecting npc’s, but with foes. You could be in Fractals, with the Jade Maw selected, ready to throw that charged crystal… and then all of a sudden the game selects something else. THIS is the problem people are mostly discussing in this topic. It happens throughout the game. Adjust the camera, stuff is deselected.

But why click the giant boss then instead of just tab targeting them? If it is so big that it cannot be missed, then within range you should be able to simply tab to select it.

I haven’t seen the deselecting while farming, still uploading the video tho. I seen another video where someone was targeting NPC’s and somehow it would select the NPC while moving the camera. I have just checked this and it doesn’t happen with me.

I select NPC’s with right or left, and then to deselect I press left click or esc. Usually left click is easier.

Edit: http://youtu.be/9A_5jMTZobI