Guild Wars 2

randomly.6395:

Umut.5471:

These effects are the only reason to craft legendaries. If their effects become toggleable, then they will look like just valueless exotic skins. I hope anet doesn’t add such a senseless feature. If they add this someday, they will have to refund all 1600-1700 gold cost to legendary weapon owners.

People who would turn off legendary effects don’t care that you have a legendary in the first place. So if they turn them off, you aren’t losing anything. You won’t be losing the awe factor if it would never have been there in the first place.

If your enjoyment of the game comes from flaunting a sparkly, expensive weapon in the faces of people who don’t care, then you may need to reevaluate your priorities.

Some people don’t want to have these weapons shown on their screen, sometimes it’s just a bit too much.

Then as i say, anet must refund legendary owners’ 1600+ gold at first before making such a mistake.
These are vanity items, you can be jealous of other players’ items and you may not want to see them because of jealousy, but that doesn’t mean you can prevent hardcore players’ effort to get better visual items. This game is only about visuals when it comes to items. If effects are lost, or toggleable there’s no point to craft a legendary.
It’s like wanting rich guys with ferraris&lambos disappear from the streets just because you don’t want to see them anymore. People don’t craft these to just see these in their own screen. So toggleable effects = death of legendaries. An ascended weapon would be more than enough then.
I don’t care if they make it toggleable but they have to add an option to refund crafting cost/materials of legendaries for existing owners before adding this, or they have to buff their stats much much more to compensate the loss of visual effects. Legendaries must have an advantage or prestige somehow. Legendary weapons are the game’s main objective, get over it. More than 50% of regular or hardcore players just play to craft a legendary(or many more). You guys cry about rainbows and unicorns then you have to cry about legendary shortbow and other ugly ones, not all legendaries. Ugly effects need to be replaced with better ones, mustn’t be removed completely.

Umut.5471:

Then as i say, anet must refund legendary owners’ 1600+ gold at first before making such a mistake.
These are vanity items, you can be jealous of other players’ items and you may not want to see them because of jealousy, but that doesn’t mean you can prevent hardcore players’ effort to get better visual items. This game is only about visuals when it comes to items. If effects are lost, or toggleable there’s no point to craft a legendary.

They don’t have to refund anything, at all. No one is jealous of your pixels, really they aren’t. It won’t be the death of legendaries either, you still have a weapon vastly superior to what most people are going to get and your performance will be superior to them accordingly, that should be enough just because I don’t see it doesn’t detract from the superior power increase from the weapon itself.

I do agree with you on them updating the visuals on some of them though, they are legitimately ugly in some cases.

You’re basically saying you spent 1600gp to annoy other users.

When I first saw these effects, I first thought they were a potion effect or something. When I found out that they are part of a weapon skin, and cannot be toggled, it made me enjoy the game less.

I rarely have problems with them in zergs, since I never really can tell what’s going on in a zerg anyways, but Lion’s Arch is the place where I can kittened annoyed at them.

I’d support a toggle for them.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Won’t ever happen. This game is almost entirely built around cosmetics and looks. If they make it so that no one can see your looks then the entire purpose of the game is gone and so is the carrot and by extension their money.

I don`t think the purpose of the game is stand around looking cool for others but for yourself. The only character on the screen I care about the looks for are my own. A toggle couldn`t hurt if people are running low end cards. But they would need to add particle slider or something else too to fix all the spell effect spam in large fights, you can`t even see the mobs half the time.

angelpaladin.7921:

Personally I don’t agree with being able to turn off special effects for legendary’s. I am also a little confused why you didn’t mention some of the other vanity skins in your post. I personally find the super adventure box skins extremely annoying. I feel they take away from the over all atmosphere of the game.

The difference is particle effects, which are related to, but distinct from, the weapon’s model. No one is suggesting an option to turn off particular weapon models; Sunrise is still going to look like Sunrise, Kraitkin is still going to look like Kraitkin. (This is a joke, of course; no one makes Kraitkin. Which is actually kinda sad, but I digress.) A more accurate comparison would be if Super weapons left bright green motion trails when swung, and their users left big patches of pixels on the ground as they run. Being able to turn off particle effects preserves the basic look of the weapon, but turns of some of the more ostentatious special effects.

psy.5437:

Draehl.2681:

This is like your next door neighbor griping when you ask him to turn down his obnoxiously loud music. "If I’m not disturbing my neighbors then how will they know how great a stereo I bought?"

Nope this is more like you worked hard to get a nice stereo and when you play music on it your obnoxious neighbour doesn’t ike the music so complains to the police incessantly about it.

This would be an accurate comparison if the police gave you magic earmuffs that cancel out the stereo for you and you alone, while your obnoxious neighbor is free to enjoy it along with everyone else who hasn’t decided to opt-out.

Having worked a job that required me to receive and respond to noise complaints, that sounds wonderful.

Umut.5471:

These are vanity items, you can be jealous of other players’ items and you may not want to see them because of jealousy, but that doesn’t mean you can prevent hardcore players’ effort to get better visual items.

I feel like everything you say in this topic undermines your position. I was going to say more about this post, but I’m not sure I can do more than let people reading it stare in awe and wonder at what they’re reading without further commentary. Some will agree with you, while the rest will think "Oh, I hope they introduce a toggle just to stick it to that way of thinking."

Umut.5471:

Ugly effects need to be replaced with better ones, mustn’t be removed completely.

It’s worth noting here that some people like the big, flashy effects and others don’t. There’s no objective way to improve them. The nice thing about having some weapons be flashier than others is that those who want more subtle effects have options, while those who want a glorious unicorn streaming forth have an option for that, too. Adding the ability for players to individually tune that level of flash, for themselves and themselves alone, is another step to maximizing each player’s enjoyment.

Or, at least, as much enjoyment as they can get without it being at the expense of others. There’s no way to maximize that type of enjoyment since for every "Nya, you can’t do anything about it!" smile, you have at least as many "Ew, who spilled outer space all over the floor?" frowns. Better to make yourself independently happy, than to require your happiness be at the expense of others.

Umut.5471:

randomly.6395:

Umut.5471:

These effects are the only reason to craft legendaries. If their effects become toggleable, then they will look like just valueless exotic skins. I hope anet doesn’t add such a senseless feature. If they add this someday, they will have to refund all 1600-1700 gold cost to legendary weapon owners.

People who would turn off legendary effects don’t care that you have a legendary in the first place. So if they turn them off, you aren’t losing anything. You won’t be losing the awe factor if it would never have been there in the first place.

If your enjoyment of the game comes from flaunting a sparkly, expensive weapon in the faces of people who don’t care, then you may need to reevaluate your priorities.

Some people don’t want to have these weapons shown on their screen, sometimes it’s just a bit too much.

Then as i say, anet must refund legendary owners’ 1600+ gold at first before making such a mistake.
These are vanity items, you can be jealous of other players’ items and you may not want to see them because of jealousy, but that doesn’t mean you can prevent hardcore players’ effort to get better visual items. This game is only about visuals when it comes to items. If effects are lost, or toggleable there’s no point to craft a legendary.
It’s like wanting rich guys with ferraris&lambos disappear from the streets just because you don’t want to see them anymore. People don’t craft these to just see these in their own screen. So toggleable effects = death of legendaries. An ascended weapon would be more than enough then.
I don’t care if they make it toggleable but they have to add an option to refund crafting cost/materials of legendaries for existing owners before adding this, or they have to buff their stats much much more to compensate the loss of visual effects. Legendaries must have an advantage or prestige somehow. Legendary weapons are the game’s main objective, get over it. More than 50% of regular or hardcore players just play to craft a legendary(or many more). You guys cry about rainbows and unicorns then you have to cry about legendary shortbow and other ugly ones, not all legendaries. Ugly effects need to be replaced with better ones, mustn’t be removed completely.

Stop and think for a second that players may not actually be jealous of a legendary item. That maybe this toggle wouldn’t be used out of spite, but rather to tone down graphics or keep obnoxious effects away from their own personal line of sight.

And your Ferrari and Lamborghini comparison is awful. Your need to assume that people want to spite you out of jealousy is so far off base. A better comparison would be if your car made a loud screeching or reflected the sun back in everyone’s eyes.

But I guess I’m just blinded by jealousy. Because who wouldn’t be jealous of you?

Umut.5471:

randomly.6395:

Umut.5471:

These effects are the only reason to craft legendaries. If their effects become toggleable, then they will look like just valueless exotic skins. I hope anet doesn’t add such a senseless feature. If they add this someday, they will have to refund all 1600-1700 gold cost to legendary weapon owners.

People who would turn off legendary effects don’t care that you have a legendary in the first place. So if they turn them off, you aren’t losing anything. You won’t be losing the awe factor if it would never have been there in the first place.

If your enjoyment of the game comes from flaunting a sparkly, expensive weapon in the faces of people who don’t care, then you may need to reevaluate your priorities.

Some people don’t want to have these weapons shown on their screen, sometimes it’s just a bit too much.

Then as i say, anet must refund legendary owners’ 1600+ gold at first before making such a mistake.
These are vanity items, you can be jealous of other players’ items and you may not want to see them because of jealousy, but that doesn’t mean you can prevent hardcore players’ effort to get better visual items. This game is only about visuals when it comes to items. If effects are lost, or toggleable there’s no point to craft a legendary.
It’s like wanting rich guys with ferraris&lambos disappear from the streets just because you don’t want to see them anymore. People don’t craft these to just see these in their own screen. So toggleable effects = death of legendaries. An ascended weapon would be more than enough then.
I don’t care if they make it toggleable but they have to add an option to refund crafting cost/materials of legendaries for existing owners before adding this, or they have to buff their stats much much more to compensate the loss of visual effects. Legendaries must have an advantage or prestige somehow. Legendary weapons are the game’s main objective, get over it. More than 50% of regular or hardcore players just play to craft a legendary(or many more). You guys cry about rainbows and unicorns then you have to cry about legendary shortbow and other ugly ones, not all legendaries. Ugly effects need to be replaced with better ones, mustn’t be removed completely.

What XD

Are you serious?
Jealous of the ugliest weapons in the game with the most annoying sounds and particle effects to go along with them?

I wouldnt use the current legendary weapons even if i were given gold to do it, people who want to toggle it off are not jealous, if you are jealous you work to get what you are jealous off, i want to turn the particles(not the skins of the weapons themselfs, that is too much) off, because they are ugly and ruin an otherwise amazingly well and beautifully crafted game!

I would love a Legendary for myself… I like the idea of being able to swap stats out of combat. (Like a minor re-traiting). The main thing that keeps me from it is those stupid footprints and goofy particle effects. (Not to mention they have gone WAY overboard on “funny” and “cutesy”. Need more “serious” skins!). Give me a way to kill at least my OWN footprints and particle effects, and I’ll begin working on one today.

P.S.: Toggleable effects does NOT mean the end of Legendaries, as some have suggested. As many people here have mentioned, it is the effects that make Legendaries look worse for many of us. Forget toggling OTHER PEOPLES’ effects (as much as that would please me). Let us toggle our OWN effects, so everyone can display their Legendary they way they would like it to be seen. This would also help WvWer’s who like the footprints, but don’t want a big red X painted on their forehead in the Mists.

Just ran into a Troll with “QUIP”. Dear God, please let the Player Instrument volume Slider work on that!

Hamfast.8719:

Just ran into a Troll with “QUIP”. Dear God, please let the Player Instrument volume Slider work on that!

Yeah i would agree but i doubt it will happen, if Anet makes any changes i got a feeling the footprints will be it.

Hamfast.8719:

Just ran into a Troll with “QUIP”. Dear God, please let the Player Instrument volume Slider work on that!

Now imagine if a profession could have both Quip and the SAB warhorn.

The people that think that others are jealous of their legendary weapons or that if something like the OP said was implemented they would need a refund makes me laugh. Your ego needs for other people to see your over the top graphics and footfalls? Other players opinions matter that much to you? Give me the option to shut it off or at least a slider to tone it down.

I didn’t realize the non existent footfalls from my FSP or its abundance of particle effects when I throw it to be so offensive…but no really I think it would be a good thing for people to have the option to turn off the massive visual strain of legendary weapons, then again as an engineer you will almost never see mine.