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Posted by: Knight.1084

Knight.1084

Ladders:

You place them on the castle and people go up them.
There are then oil pots there too and they drop oil down on them for defence.

Check this out (good example) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGWCzlpXbug

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

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Knight, Knight, just to explain somthing, wonder how op this would be together with a portal mesmer, means you can get a 20 group past a wall in 2 seconds right?

7800 hours ingame, and counting.

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Posted by: ExTribble.7108

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Knight, Knight, just to explain somthing, wonder how op this would be together with a portal mesmer, means you can get a 20 group past a wall in 2 seconds right?

This. One sneaky mesmer ladders in, ports a zerg into the lord room. GG.

Nothanks, I like WvW as it is.

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Knight, Knight, just to explain somthing, wonder how op this would be together with a portal mesmer, means you can get a 20 group past a wall in 2 seconds right?

Well if ladders were in it, It would be more for the fun.

I don’t see why you worry about people using tricks and stuff, its all about the fun of it anyway. And sure the portal could just be unable to portal like that.

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Portal unable to portal like that. So what, block portals in keeps? Then mesmers become useless with traditional portal-bombing.

And think about it… Why would anyone waste resources upgrading keep walls/defenses when someone or even a group can ladder in? Right now it’s PvDoor. This will simplify it even more to PvLadders.

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

Sirendor.1394

I think portal-bombing is a worthless tactic anyways. It’s by no means fair and the mesmer has a lot more to prove it’s worth without portals. I’m in for blocking them and getting ladders instead.

As to your question about upgrading walls. Right now upgrading walls adds to their HP, but wouldn’t it be a way more interesting thing if upgrading walls added to the HP AND installed extra defensive barriers on the walls themselves, so players defending atop the wall can hold defensive points on the walls?

This would also encourage more scouting and less zerging, cause you could maybe reward players for “discovering” a ladder. For example, if you find an enemy ladder going up on a wall, stand close to it and press “F” to interact. Interacting to it gains you … WXP and … copper/silver/gold.

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Posted by: Knight.1084

Knight.1084

Portal unable to portal like that. So what, block portals in keeps? Then mesmers become useless with traditional portal-bombing.

And think about it… Why would anyone waste resources upgrading keep walls/defenses when someone or even a group can ladder in? Right now it’s PvDoor. This will simplify it even more to PvLadders.

Ladders would be something you buy like the Catapult.

- Ladders are limited
- Ladders are easily destroyed because they are only wood. They can be pushed back,etc.
- The defenders put a pot of oil where the ladder is or the pot of oil is already in place by default and you may only put the ladder in a certain position,etc.

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Posted by: Knight.1084

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Also, the ladders would add more of feel and completion to the game.
They would be in the game for fun.
Also to note that don’t think they would be really over-powered, they could be like 3 silver from the merchant and very easily destroyed

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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^Indeed that seems like a most reasonable explanation as well, it wouldn’t be hard to counter the ladder (and maybe the mesmer), but instead would allow for more challenging fights.

If you see a ladder appearing in front of you, and aoe thrown up against the wall to make sure nobody pushes the ladder away, you’ll need to work together with other members of your server to get the ladder down, at the cost of defeat.

Another point I’d like to add is maybe that ladders have to be built within your server’s own towers/keeps, cause if they were to be built anywhere, you could just drop one where you want, with the hope that nobody of the enemy sees you, and slip inside.
Instead, the ladder should be build on your own terrain, and transported to the enemy fortification, being pushed by 2 players. This way, the ladder wouldn’t be quite such an element of surprise, but would be visible from afar (cause it’s of course higher than the players).

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^Indeed that seems like a most reasonable explanation as well, it wouldn’t be hard to counter the ladder (and maybe the mesmer), but instead would allow for more challenging fights.

If you see a ladder appearing in front of you, and aoe thrown up against the wall to make sure nobody pushes the ladder away, you’ll need to work together with other members of your server to get the ladder down, at the cost of defeat.

Another point I’d like to add is maybe that ladders have to be built within your server’s own towers/keeps, cause if they were to be built anywhere, you could just drop one where you want, with the hope that nobody of the enemy sees you, and slip inside.
Instead, the ladder should be build on your own terrain, and transported to the enemy fortification, being pushed by 2 players. This way, the ladder wouldn’t be quite such an element of surprise, but would be visible from afar (cause it’s of course higher than the players).

Nice mate. that is even better yes.

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Posted by: Knight.1084

Knight.1084

heres the video example (updated)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGWCzlpXbug

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Posted by: Knight.1084

Knight.1084

Any feedback please?. Thanks

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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I’m still a supporter of the idea, though I doubt Anet will ever make such a drastic change. You’ve seen the latest update, it had nearly nothing of importance in it.

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I’m still a supporter of the idea, though I doubt Anet will ever make such a drastic change. You’ve seen the latest update, it had nearly nothing of importance in it.

Yes, the new patches seem to be very low quality, worse than WoW even. WoW is even now releasing nice new content such as the battle with the alliance and horde

and rift is releasing OUTSTANDING content updates.

but sure if anet won’t be making the changes then there’s an extreme chance of gw2 going dry more quickly.
and sure its not about changing, its about a nice new feature that players will enjoy.

but the new patch did have some really nice new features too (mainly wvw rewards in leader ranks,the new island that players have to defend and then npcs spawn,

those are very nice and add that nice spice and glow to the game.

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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

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Yeah well they add stuff that may be nice, but they barely listen to what players ask:
- accountbound dyes
- dueling
- mounts
- more guild options (last online, events)
- wvw: squad improvement
- more weapons for some classes
- …

Instead they release a limited dungeon that gives crappy rewards. Good going…

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It could be like this that ladders are carried by npcs (sort of an outbreak event)

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