Guild Wars 2

Bolbo Baggins.8594:

Terrible Idea. We have waypoints and speedskills, that works perfectly. Movement mounts are only gimmick items. I can already see the graphic polution in front of me, an army of Big doliaks standing in front of me and griphons skydiving on my head. No thx :-) Not to think of the performance lag it can bring with a big dynamic.

That is like saying because you own a bicycle you aren`t allowed to drive a car. I also doubt you`ll see any performance hit at all. If your pc can handle wvw with no lag, a few mounts here and there aren`t going to impact your performance. Sounds to me you just don`t want them because you don`t like them. That still doesn`t justify why people who do want them can`t have them.

Seraki.2753:

I don’t think the game was designed for mounts, just a guess. Also how you going to dump tons of your game coin on gates if you got a mount?

Ok we have a huge gameworld we can travel through. They put waypoints everywhere for convenience which is awesome if I need to be somewhere right now. But 70% of my time ingame, I don`t need to be anywhere right now fast. I run around the different maps and do some events, harvest, go afk, and complain that I`ll never get the last few points of interest and vistas I need from the wvw maps. And if you never noticed me doing these before, you`ll probably not notice me do it on a mount either until the shock of seeing one ingame wears off.

Full sized Norn on a mount would take up a significant portion of your screen if you were near one, traveling behind one and so forth. Also I don’t want them because I don’t care for the way they look and the extra screen clutter.

JustTrogdor.7892:

Full sized Norn on a mount would take up a significant portion of your screen if you were near one, traveling behind one and so forth. Also I don’t want them because I don’t care for the way they look and the extra screen clutter.

I have an easy solution for that! In eq2 in your options menu you could disable mount visuals so even if people were on mounts, you wouldn`t see them. Kind of like how your hide helmet options work. Still not really a valid excuse other then personal taste which could be remedied with one button press. keep em coming!

I would love to see mounts in the game for charismatic-purposes

What I always thought would be great as mounts in game would be racial skills / mounts. For example, a Norn could turn into a wolf (not Norn-wolf) and run about, or a Dolyak, Charr could whip out some kind of engineered contraption etc. I think if they were added, they wouldn’t add anything, and be used only for cosmetic purposes. Only thing now though is that people would be inclined to run places, rather than use Waypoints, which are in the game to provide a gold sink. It’s harder to implement than people think.

Milumeo Rinku.7583:

What I always thought would be great as mounts in game would be racial skills / mounts. For example, a Norn could turn into a wolf (not Norn-wolf) and run about, or a Dolyak, Charr could whip out some kind of engineered contraption etc. I think if they were added, they wouldn’t add anything, and be used only for cosmetic purposes. Only thing now though is that people would be inclined to run places, rather than use Waypoints, which are in the game to provide a gold sink. It’s harder to implement than people think.

The gemshop is the games biggest goldsink. Thinking the few silver you spend to port from here to there is somehow balancing the games economy is an illusion. There isn`t a point in adding racial shapeshifting abilities unless they have a purpose. Yeah it would be neat if rangers could turn into wolves to run faster like they did in eq but then only rangers would have access to it. Racial bound mounts were never a good idea because if I`m not a norn and the norn is the only one who can access the dolyak then it screws everyone who likes the doylak that isn`t a norn. Now I could see doylaks being sold in hoelbrak and devourer mounts being sold in the citadel but they should be open to anyone who wants them.

I also don`t see a problem with people wanting to run places. The waypoints would still be there. You even have the option now to run somewhere if you want to and that`s something I do a lot. I also know I would enjoy it a lot more if I had a mount that got me from a to b a little faster. This is a huge visually rich world that doesn`t require you to be on foot to admire.

1) Mounts would kitten off people in jumping puzzles
2) We have waypoints and asura gates to move around.
3) Mount are silly, horrible and useless junk
4) Did I say mounts are silly and I don’t want one? Never.
5) There will never be any mounts granting speed boost (we have skills for that) or that’d break so much content (such as jumping puzzles)
6) I prefer having a nice gear to distinguish my character to a silly mount that takes way too much space on my screen.

GoddessOfTheWinds.2937:

1) Mounts would kitten off people in jumping puzzles
2) We have waypoints and asura gates to move around.
3) Mount are silly, horrible and useless junk
4) Did I say mounts are silly and I don’t want one? Never.
5) There will never be any mounts granting speed boost (we have skills for that) or that’d break so much content (such as jumping puzzles)
6) I prefer having a nice gear to distinguish my character to a silly mount that takes way too much space on my screen.

How exactly would a mount break a jumping puzzle if its the same speed boost as what we can already have? You just don`t want them because you don`t like so by what you say if you don`t eat mashed potatoes, nobody else is allowed to eat them. I already proposed a solution to hide them with a hidehelmet type setting for the people who couldn`t accept the visuals. Try to think up something better next time besides your own personal taste.

And why do people keep suggesting them when even the devs don’t want ‘em ? Just because the WoWers want some doesn’t mean the majority of the playerbase want that sillyness.

It could somehow work if you can’t fight with a mount, have them give no speed bonus and an ability to hide all mounts from other players, but still, I don’t want any.

It was already a silly grind in most games to get one. I prefer grinding my skins.

I never played WoW, so forgive me if I misunderstand the purpose of mounts. If mounts are just a form of speed boost, then I really don’t see the point for them in GW2. There are skills and consumables for that, and once you have waypoints unlocked, travel time is instant for a small fee. Even without waypoints, I would bet that an already level 80 character could run from a starting city like Divinity all the way to cursed shore in practically very little time, assuming they didn’t stop to fight. And with speed consumables, that would just be that much faster. Mounts just don’t seem necessary.

Holy necro’d thread batman!

We don’t need mounts. Why do people keep asking for them? Honestly, with WPs and asura gates and most professions having speed boosts, mounts would just be a waste. Is it just because WoW had them? Cuz you can always go play WoW. I hear they have Po in it now.

Also, one of the big important aspects of GW2 is its collection of DEs. If everyone is whipping around Tyria at +60% speed then nobody will even think about stopping for DEs or to help someone who’s fighting a group of enemies. It will reduce player-player cooperative play.

CattivoUomo.7198:

I never played WoW, so forgive me if I misunderstand the purpose of mounts. If mounts are just a form of speed boost, then I really don’t see the point for them in GW2. There are skills and consumables for that, and once you have waypoints unlocked, travel time is instant for a small fee. Even without waypoints, I would bet that an already level 80 character could run from a starting city like Divinity all the way to cursed shore in practically very little time, assuming they didn’t stop to fight. And with speed consumables, that would just be that much faster. Mounts just don’t seem necessary.

There is also no point in grinding for skins when you already have functional armor. But why do people do it? Because they want to! Because they want to customize! Perhaps I don`t want to bother with consumables. Perhaps I`d like to travel on a mount because that`s what I`d like to do. It`s about immersion and options and the freedom to do what you like. You don`t have to like mounts in order to say you have no problem with people who like them having them. But most everyone because they don`t like something don`t want the people who do to have it.

Seras.5702:

Holy necro’d thread batman!

We don’t need mounts. Why do people keep asking for them? Honestly, with WPs and asura gates and most professions having speed boosts, mounts would just be a waste. Is it just because WoW had them? Cuz you can always go play WoW. I hear they have Po in it now.

Also, one of the big important aspects of GW2 is its collection of DEs. If everyone is whipping around Tyria at +60% speed then nobody will even think about stopping for DEs or to help someone who’s fighting a group of enemies. It will reduce player-player cooperative play.

There is never waste when a customer is ready to put good money in your hand for something he wants. Good developers realize this and capitalize on it.

Some of you guys really think warcraft was the first mmo and it is so cute! Mounts were in 3d mmo`s long before warcraft was even a thought. I`ll bet you probably didn`t know some of the devs from eq helped make warcraft. Of course not, haha because warcraft was the first mmo ever!

Mounts could be the normal 33% run speed that we have now You just wouldn`t have to keep casting every 10 seconds. Do you really think a mount is going to make people ignore each other anymore then they already are? Cmon, be serious now. you are pulling for reasons but coming up pretty dry. Honest discussion only here.

GoddessOfTheWinds.2937:

And why do people keep suggesting them when even the devs don’t want ‘em ? Just because the WoWers want some doesn’t mean the majority of the playerbase want that sillyness.

It could somehow work if you can’t fight with a mount, have them give no speed bonus and an ability to hide all mounts from other players, but still, I don’t want any.

It was already a silly grind in most games to get one. I prefer grinding my skins.

I don`t believe they ever said they didn`t want them. I think it was more like they didn`t plan on it. And of course combat wouldn`t be allowed on a mount. But they would give 33% speed that doesn`t stack buffs. And can be hidden. even with all that I`m sure people in your mindset would still find something to complain about.

We also keep suggesting it to let anet know that some people have credit cards they are willing to use for items they want. If they can`t see the profit that can made off fancy mounts, then too bad for them.

Banewrath.5107:

JustTrogdor.7892:

Full sized Norn on a mount would take up a significant portion of your screen if you were near one, traveling behind one and so forth. Also I don’t want them because I don’t care for the way they look and the extra screen clutter.

I have an easy solution for that! In eq2 in your options menu you could disable mount visuals so even if people were on mounts, you wouldn`t see them. Kind of like how your hide helmet options work. Still not really a valid excuse other then personal taste which could be remedied with one button press. keep em coming!

Oh, I see. So people that want mounts for aesthetic reasons have a valid point. But people that do not want mounts due aesthetic reasons do not have a valid point. That makes sense. If I said I wanted Anet to make it so characters no longer have heads because I think it would look cool and you said you would not like the way that would look by your logic your excuse is not valid.

Banewrath.5107:

But most everyone because they don`t like something don`t want the people who do to have it.

The, “You just don’t want me to have it.” argument is juvenile. It’s like a kid who’s parents won’t by them a toy.

I’ll say this again so you can discount my opinion but validate your own opinion. I do not want mounts because I do not like the way look and I don’t like the extra screen clutter. Now if they were to do something like you mentioned, allow people to turn them off so they can’t be seen, that would be fine with me. If that wasn’t an option I don’t want them, not to keep you from having your toy, but because I don’t want to see them.

So you can carry on here like you are the champion of the argument for mounts. I promise I’ll necro this thread and post here giving you full credit with “YOU WON! YOU WERE RIGHT!” when I see the mounts in the game. Until then I’ll let you continue to discount everyones opinions because they are not your opinion.

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Absolutely no point in adding mounts.

There`s no point in adding boxing gloves, plush backpacks , and bunny ears but yet there they are.

Oh ok so simply because they added useless stuff before they might as well do it again? That makes perfect sense..

I have no problem with cosmetic mounts, if anet wants to add those be my guest. But mounts like in wow (for travelling) are useless, there’s a waypoint around each corner..
Sure it would be nice to ride around on the back of a cool mount, but I just don’t see it happen anytime soon, apart from some minor mounts maybe (like the broom).

I want mounts, but no flying mounts. Flying mounts ruin the immersion, just some dolyaks or charr will do.

JustTrogdor.7892:

Oh, I see. So people that want mounts for aesthetic reasons have a valid point. But people that do not want mounts due aesthetic reasons do not have a valid point. That makes sense. If I said I wanted Anet to make it so characters no longer have heads because I think it would look cool and you said you would not like the way that would look by your logic your excuse is not valid.

The difference is that the people who don`t like them don`t need to use them. It`s another option for people who like it. You aren`t required to craft to play the game but many people do. You aren`t required to grind for skins when readily available, functional armor exists. But people do. You don`t need to wvw to enjoy the game but people do. I have no problems with any players that do anything that I do not because it doesn`t hurt the outcome of my gameplay.

JustTrogdor.7892:

The, “You just don’t want me to have it.” argument is juvenile. It’s like a kid who’s parents won’t by them a toy.

How is that juvenile? I would like something and you are dead set against me having it because you don`t agree with it. What I want doesn`t effect you in the least but yet you still don`t want me to have it.

JustTrogdor.7892:

I’ll say this again so you can discount my opinion but validate your own opinion. I do not want mounts because I do not like the way look and I don’t like the extra screen clutter. Now if they were to do something like you mentioned, allow people to turn them off so they can’t be seen, that would be fine with me. If that wasn’t an option I don’t want them, not to keep you from having your toy, but because I don’t want to see them.

Well you kinda just hung yourself there with this paragraph didn`t you. It`s ok for me to have something I like as long as it conforms to your rules. Talk about juvenile.

JustTrogdor.7892:

So you can carry on here like you are the champion of the argument for mounts. I promise I’ll necro this thread and post here giving you full credit with “YOU WON! YOU WERE RIGHT!” when I see the mounts in the game. Until then I’ll let you continue to discount everyones opinions because they are not your opinion.

I am not trying to be any hero or champion. I am just discussing my feelings on the subject. I only discount other people opinions when it holds no water. From my standpoint, mounts in the game will have no negative effect because we already have swiftness. So it isn`t like we are having any kind of bonus over another player. If it makes the customer happy then why deny him something so simple.

You on the other hand don`t want just because you don`t like the way they look and don`t want to be bothered. That`s fine and all but don`t deny someone something over such a childish reason. Nobody has brought fourth one valid argument why mounts couldn`t be put into game that I didn`t have a solution for. But you guys stil argue even with solutions handed right to you. If that isn`t the definition of juvenile, I don`t know what is.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Absolutely no point in adding mounts.

There`s no point in adding boxing gloves, plush backpacks , and bunny ears but yet there they are.

Oh ok so simply because they added useless stuff before they might as well do it again? That makes perfect sense..

I have no problem with cosmetic mounts, if anet wants to add those be my guest. But mounts like in wow (for travelling) are useless, there’s a waypoint around each corner..
Sure it would be nice to ride around on the back of a cool mount, but I just don’t see it happen anytime soon, apart from some minor mounts maybe (like the broom).

It`s only useless to someone who won`t use it.

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Absolutely no point in adding mounts.

There`s no point in adding boxing gloves, plush backpacks , and bunny ears but yet there they are.

Oh ok so simply because they added useless stuff before they might as well do it again? That makes perfect sense..

I have no problem with cosmetic mounts, if anet wants to add those be my guest. But mounts like in wow (for travelling) are useless, there’s a waypoint around each corner..
Sure it would be nice to ride around on the back of a cool mount, but I just don’t see it happen anytime soon, apart from some minor mounts maybe (like the broom).

It`s only useless to someone who won`t use it.

I suppose I could agree with purely aesthetic mounts, minus any skills or speed buffs though. Basically ‘macro’-pets that you can ride, but which have no other effect to the gameplay or that could give someone any advantage over someone else. No flying mounts though; at least not high enough to take the player out of the game area. Otherwise players could fly above everything or use them as an exploit in jumping puzzles or WvW. Might I suggest just make them another costume? Bam, all the visual appeal of a mount while not affecting the current gameplay. i.e. the witch’s broom.

Banewrath.5107:

Well you kinda just hung yourself there with this paragraph didn`t you. It`s ok for me to have something I like as long as it conforms to your rules. Talk about juvenile.

Actually no. Being able to hide mounts was your suggestion as a compromise for people that don’t want to see them. I was agreeing with that idea but I guess you forgot that in your haste to try to prove yourself right. I then once again stated that I do not want to see them. Look hero, people that don’t want to see mounts have just as valid reason as those that do. You say people that don’t want mounts just don’t want others to have them. Well that goes both ways. People that want mounts are trying to force them on people that don’t want them. People that don’t want to see them. See how that works?

It’s obvious that you think you are on some great crusade when really you are just bashing keys for something that most likely will never happen. So you keep doing what you are doing and I’m going to get back in game, a mount free game. I have not played in a while and have some things I want to do, without mounts.

I’ll revisit this thread when there are mounts in the game so I can give you credit for all your hard work.

Banewrath.5107:

CattivoUomo.7198:

I never played WoW, so forgive me if I misunderstand the purpose of mounts. If mounts are just a form of speed boost, then I really don’t see the point for them in GW2. There are skills and consumables for that, and once you have waypoints unlocked, travel time is instant for a small fee. Even without waypoints, I would bet that an already level 80 character could run from a starting city like Divinity all the way to cursed shore in practically very little time, assuming they didn’t stop to fight. And with speed consumables, that would just be that much faster. Mounts just don’t seem necessary.

There is also no point in grinding for skins when you already have functional armor. But why do people do it? Because they want to! Because they want to customize! Perhaps I don`t want to bother with consumables. Perhaps I`d like to travel on a mount because that`s what I`d like to do. It`s about immersion and options and the freedom to do what you like. You don`t have to like mounts in order to say you have no problem with people who like them having them. But most everyone because they don`t like something don`t want the people who do to have it.

Whoa now, I never said I didn’t like mounts or at least the idea in some sense. I’m just pointing out that GW2 is not designed in such a way that mounts would be of any real use for traveling as there are waypoints and speed buffs. As I stated in my last response, if mounts were introduced as only cosmetic items such as the mini pets, where they would not be something that could be used in battle or which gave any permanent speed buff or that could be used in anyway to avoid combat or exploit anything in the current gameplay, then I would be OK with that. The Devs could just introduce them as either a permanent or consumable costume just like the witch’s broom.

CattivoUomo.7198:

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Absolutely no point in adding mounts.

There`s no point in adding boxing gloves, plush backpacks , and bunny ears but yet there they are.

Oh ok so simply because they added useless stuff before they might as well do it again? That makes perfect sense..

I have no problem with cosmetic mounts, if anet wants to add those be my guest. But mounts like in wow (for travelling) are useless, there’s a waypoint around each corner..
Sure it would be nice to ride around on the back of a cool mount, but I just don’t see it happen anytime soon, apart from some minor mounts maybe (like the broom).

It`s only useless to someone who won`t use it.

I suppose I could agree with purely aesthetic mounts, minus any skills or speed buffs though. Basically ‘macro’-pets that you can ride, but which have no other effect to the gameplay or that could give someone any advantage over someone else. No flying mounts though; at least not high enough to take the player out of the game area. Otherwise players could fly above everything or use them as an exploit in jumping puzzles or WvW. Might I suggest just make them another costume? Bam, all the visual appeal of a mount while not affecting the current gameplay. i.e. the witch’s broom.

Sure, make them a costume I can cast in any outdoor zone and put unstackable swiftness on it and we got a deal!

JustTrogdor.7892:

Banewrath.5107:

Well you kinda just hung yourself there with this paragraph didn`t you. It`s ok for me to have something I like as long as it conforms to your rules. Talk about juvenile.

Actually no. Being able to hide mounts was your suggestion as a compromise for people that don’t want to see them. I was agreeing with that idea but I guess you forgot that in your haste to try to prove yourself right. I then once again stated that I do not want to see them. Look hero, people that don’t want to see mounts have just as valid reason as those that do. You say people that don’t want mounts just don’t want others to have them. Well that goes both ways. People that want mounts are trying to force them on people that don’t want them. People that don’t want to see them. See how that works?

It’s obvious that you think you are on some great crusade when really you are just bashing keys for something that most likely will never happen. So you keep doing what you are doing and I’m going to get back in game, a mount free game. I have not played in a while and have some things I want to do, without mounts.

I’ll revisit this thread when there are mounts in the game so I can give you credit for all your hard work.

You what I don`t like to see? Big gals squeezing into spandex pants! Do you think it would be rude or mean of me to walk up to one and tell her she`s not allowed to wear it because I don`t wanna see that? Or just keep it to myself like I do now and look the other way? Same thing applies here.

I also really didn`t need to prove myself right, you did that for me. The noose is getting tighter lad.

As a matter of fact one of my favorite songs is called Crusader by Saxon from back in 84! Crusader! Crusader! cplease take me with you! The battle lies far to the east!

CattivoUomo.7198:

Whoa now, I never said I didn’t like mounts or at least the idea in some sense. I’m just pointing out that GW2 is not designed in such a way that mounts would be of any real use for traveling as there are waypoints and speed buffs. As I stated in my last response, if mounts were introduced as only cosmetic items such as the mini pets, where they would not be something that could be used in battle or which gave any permanent speed buff or that could be used in anyway to avoid combat or exploit anything in the current gameplay, then I would be OK with that. The Devs could just introduce them as either a permanent or consumable costume just like the witch’s broom.

Could you think of any other game that would better suited for mounts then this gigantic huge gameworld we have to travel though? Waypoints are nice when you are in a rush and it`s a convenience and that`s great. There is more to the game then just hopping waypoints.

Banewrath.5107:

CattivoUomo.7198:

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Banewrath.5107:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Absolutely no point in adding mounts.

There`s no point in adding boxing gloves, plush backpacks , and bunny ears but yet there they are.

Oh ok so simply because they added useless stuff before they might as well do it again? That makes perfect sense..

I have no problem with cosmetic mounts, if anet wants to add those be my guest. But mounts like in wow (for travelling) are useless, there’s a waypoint around each corner..
Sure it would be nice to ride around on the back of a cool mount, but I just don’t see it happen anytime soon, apart from some minor mounts maybe (like the broom).

It`s only useless to someone who won`t use it.

I suppose I could agree with purely aesthetic mounts, minus any skills or speed buffs though. Basically ‘macro’-pets that you can ride, but which have no other effect to the gameplay or that could give someone any advantage over someone else. No flying mounts though; at least not high enough to take the player out of the game area. Otherwise players could fly above everything or use them as an exploit in jumping puzzles or WvW. Might I suggest just make them another costume? Bam, all the visual appeal of a mount while not affecting the current gameplay. i.e. the witch’s broom.

Sure, make them a costume I can cast in any outdoor zone and put unstackable swiftness on it and we got a deal!

So long as that swiftness is not a permanent buff or the costume had 1 skill on it that temporarily boosted a player’s speed in such a way that its cool down and percent speed increase is comparable with current player skills, then that would be fine. As it would be a costume, though, you would have no armor so if you want to take that risk for the aesthetic looks alone, then I see no problem with that. I mean I can turn myself into a Dolyak right now with a consumable and run around WvW if I want. I won’t last long if I encounter anyone though. Just please don’t try to mount me without getting me really really drunk first. :P

Banewrath.5107:

JustTrogdor.7892:

Banewrath.5107:

Well you kinda just hung yourself there with this paragraph didn`t you. It`s ok for me to have something I like as long as it conforms to your rules. Talk about juvenile.

Actually no. Being able to hide mounts was your suggestion as a compromise for people that don’t want to see them. I was agreeing with that idea but I guess you forgot that in your haste to try to prove yourself right. I then once again stated that I do not want to see them. Look hero, people that don’t want to see mounts have just as valid reason as those that do. You say people that don’t want mounts just don’t want others to have them. Well that goes both ways. People that want mounts are trying to force them on people that don’t want them. People that don’t want to see them. See how that works?

It’s obvious that you think you are on some great crusade when really you are just bashing keys for something that most likely will never happen. So you keep doing what you are doing and I’m going to get back in game, a mount free game. I have not played in a while and have some things I want to do, without mounts.

I’ll revisit this thread when there are mounts in the game so I can give you credit for all your hard work.

You what I don`t like to see? Big gals squeezing into spandex pants! Do you think it would be rude or mean of me to walk up to one and tell her she`s not allowed to wear it because I don`t wanna see that? Or just keep it to myself like I do now and look the other way? Same thing applies here.

I also really didn`t need to prove myself right, you did that for me. The noose is getting tighter lad.

As a matter of fact one of my favorite songs is called Crusader by Saxon from back in 84! Crusader! Crusader! cplease take me with you! The battle lies far to the east!

While I don’t really need cosmetic mounts myself, I won’t go against it. It would indeed be extremely arrogant to deny other people mounts simply because I do not want it.

Banewrath.5107:

The gemshop is the games biggest goldsink. Thinking the few silver you spend to port from here to there is somehow balancing the games economy is an illusion. There isn`t a point in adding racial shapeshifting abilities unless they have a purpose. Yeah it would be neat if rangers could turn into wolves to run faster like they did in eq but then only rangers would have access to it. Racial bound mounts were never a good idea because if I`m not a norn and the norn is the only one who can access the dolyak then it screws everyone who likes the doylak that isn`t a norn. Now I could see doylaks being sold in hoelbrak and devourer mounts being sold in the citadel but they should be open to anyone who wants them.

I also don`t see a problem with people wanting to run places. The waypoints would still be there. You even have the option now to run somewhere if you want to and that`s something I do a lot. I also know I would enjoy it a lot more if I had a mount that got me from a to b a little faster. This is a huge visually rich world that doesn`t require you to be on foot to admire.

This is true, but I still think the gold cost to waypoint is there for a reason. If not what’s the point in costing anything at all? I mean there are lore reasons I guess (company who runs the WP’s get the money etc etc) but still.

I understand the racial reasons, I maybe worded it wrong, but racial influence on mounts, regardless of which race could use them, would be very cool, rather than just generic dolyaks or devourers.

The last paragraph is what I also meant (i must be terrible with words) I just think if mounts were in-game and had a speed-boost, waypoints would be used a lot less, and I don’t think they’d want that.

Milumeo Rinku.7583:

Banewrath.5107:

The gemshop is the games biggest goldsink. Thinking the few silver you spend to port from here to there is somehow balancing the games economy is an illusion. There isn`t a point in adding racial shapeshifting abilities unless they have a purpose. Yeah it would be neat if rangers could turn into wolves to run faster like they did in eq but then only rangers would have access to it. Racial bound mounts were never a good idea because if I`m not a norn and the norn is the only one who can access the dolyak then it screws everyone who likes the doylak that isn`t a norn. Now I could see doylaks being sold in hoelbrak and devourer mounts being sold in the citadel but they should be open to anyone who wants them.

I also don`t see a problem with people wanting to run places. The waypoints would still be there. You even have the option now to run somewhere if you want to and that`s something I do a lot. I also know I would enjoy it a lot more if I had a mount that got me from a to b a little faster. This is a huge visually rich world that doesn`t require you to be on foot to admire.

This is true, but I still think the gold cost to waypoint is there for a reason. I understand the racial reasons, I maybe worded it wrong, but racial influence on mounts, regardless of which race could use them, would be very cool, rather than just generic dolyaks or devourers.

The last paragraph is what I also meant (i must be terrible with words) I just think if mounts were in-game and had a speed-boost, waypoints would be used a lot less, and I don’t think they’d want that.

It would kind of cool to have cultural mounts that would have a unique skin like the armors do. That way maybe the norn could have the nornish doylak. Bit still letting other races aquire them but not the cultural one.

Well a lot of the classes have swiftness or some kind of speed boost. some classes have a signet that is passive. The mounts swiftness buff would overight any character speed enhancements and be active until dismounted. You wouldn`t be able to fight on a mount and they would only be for outdoor use. They really aren`t any different then a speed signet some of the other classes get except they would just have a visual along with it. The option to turn off the visuals makes it more appealing to the people who don`t want to see them. But I`d wager my last copper that some of the people who don`t want them would see one they had to have.

I don`t think waypoints would be used less because there will always be people who wanna get there yesterday if you know what I mean.

Oh how i’d long for a norn cultural Dolyak. That’s a great idea, and the point of mounts having the same speed as a signet is a great idea, especially for the classes that do not get speed signets.

I’m now stoked for something I’m probably not gonna get xD

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

While I don’t really need cosmetic mounts myself, I won’t go against it. It would indeed be extremely arrogant to deny other people mounts simply because I do not want it.

Finally, a voice of reason! Now to just get everyone else to feel the same way.

Milumeo Rinku.7583:

Oh how i’d long for a norn cultural Dolyak. That’s a great idea, and the point of mounts having the same speed as a signet is a great idea, especially for the classes that do not get speed signets.

I’m now stoked for something I’m probably not gonna get xD

It would be very cool if the cultural mounts had parts of the actual cultural gear stretched and scaled to fit. A guy made a horse armor mod for skyrim and used a lot of the existing set armors and themed different armor versions for the horse. The dolyak could even have a sort of winged headpiece to match his masters set. Could scale and rotate the pauldrons and make them into leg armor for the yak and it would look great. I did this kind of thing for nifs from oblivion and skyrim all the time and it always turned out pretty nice.

I will modify my statement: I wouldn’t mind if the mounts were for aesthetic reasons only just like the broom. It would lock your skills down and gives no advantage what so ever but you would look cool (if that’s what you are looking for).

As for myself, I have a Lightning Kite and I like running around with it, for the cool “effect”. Though I probably wouldn’t want something under my little human girl.

But I’m pretty we won’t see any mounts with speed boosts.

GoddessOfTheWinds.2937:

I will modify my statement: I wouldn’t mind if the mounts were for aesthetic reasons only just like the broom. It would lock your skills down and gives no advantage what so ever but you would look cool (if that’s what you are looking for).

As for myself, I have a Lightning Kite and I like running around with it, for the cool “effect”. Though I probably wouldn’t want something under my little human girl.

But I’m pretty we won’t see any mounts with speed boosts.

Who sanctioned this lightning kite without my approval? I don`t wanna see that! Well if there isn`t an option for me to turn it off I`m going to throw a fit!. Haha, I couldn`t resist. Enjoy your kite, even if it`s something I wouldn`t want for myself.

Banewrath.5107:

Milumeo Rinku.7583:

Oh how i’d long for a norn cultural Dolyak. That’s a great idea, and the point of mounts having the same speed as a signet is a great idea, especially for the classes that do not get speed signets.

I’m now stoked for something I’m probably not gonna get xD

It would be very cool if the cultural mounts had parts of the actual cultural gear stretched and scaled to fit. A guy made a horse armor mod for skyrim and used a lot of the existing set armors and themed different armor versions for the horse. The dolyak could even have a sort of winged headpiece to match his masters set. Could scale and rotate the pauldrons and make them into leg armor for the yak and it would look great. I did this kind of thing for nifs from oblivion and skyrim all the time and it always turned out pretty nice.

Wow this would be awesome! I wonder if Anet have given mounts any serious thought yet? I mean if they added mounts or customization options to the Gem Store (which would almost definitely happen) I think they’d get a lot of money from them!

GoddessOfTheWinds.2937:

1) Mounts would kitten off people in jumping puzzles
2) We have waypoints and asura gates to move around.
3) Mount are silly, horrible and useless junk
4) Did I say mounts are silly and I don’t want one? Never.
5) There will never be any mounts granting speed boost (we have skills for that) or that’d break so much content (such as jumping puzzles)
6) I prefer having a nice gear to distinguish my character to a silly mount that takes way too much space on my screen.

1) Agreed.
2) Agreed.
3) Only good mount is a cosmtic only mount.
4) I’ll only use it if there is no speed buff and it is just for looks.
5) Agreed.
6) Agreed.

Milumeo Rinku.7583:

Banewrath.5107:

Milumeo Rinku.7583:

Oh how i’d long for a norn cultural Dolyak. That’s a great idea, and the point of mounts having the same speed as a signet is a great idea, especially for the classes that do not get speed signets.

I’m now stoked for something I’m probably not gonna get xD

It would be very cool if the cultural mounts had parts of the actual cultural gear stretched and scaled to fit. A guy made a horse armor mod for skyrim and used a lot of the existing set armors and themed different armor versions for the horse. The dolyak could even have a sort of winged headpiece to match his masters set. Could scale and rotate the pauldrons and make them into leg armor for the yak and it would look great. I did this kind of thing for nifs from oblivion and skyrim all the time and it always turned out pretty nice.

Wow this would be awesome! I wonder if Anet have given mounts any serious thought yet? I mean if they added mounts or customization options to the Gem Store (which would almost definitely happen) I think they’d get a lot of money from them!

Well if they did, they would have to do it right. They would have to have mount vendors that sell some mounts for gold. They would also have to have some mounts that were good looking for gold. I was giving some more thought to it last night and came up with a ghost horse attainable from ascalon catacombs. It would be a horse with the night time ghost effect on it like the weapons have to where it would get the ghost npc spectral effect shader. You could get it with dungeon tokens and each dungeon could have it`s own special mount. I kind of imagine honor of the waves having a big polar bear mount with some of the armor on it like the khodan bear people have. I would think citadel of flame would have a devourer and twighlight arbor could have one of those leaf wolf looking things. They could really do some wonderful things if they put a bit of time into it.

Naturally we both think the cultural mounts are cool so they would be available in home cities along with normal vendors for the public versions of the mounts. I think a good mix for vendors would be to have a bare mount with just a saddle on it. then have a lightly armored one that you can get for gold. The dungeon mounts would be unique and the only way to get that skin. Then for the gemshop they could add a more heavily armor variant of the mounts or mounts that leave rustling leaves in its wake or whatever. The sky is really the limit to how far they could take it.

We could also get a new tab in our banks to store the mounts like we have for the minis. I personally could care less about minis because they really don`t do anything but some people love them in lions arch, I just never got what was so popular with them. But I would collect mounts that I liked the look of.

The game already has the basic running and walking animations for any of the creatures that could be turned into a mount. They would need to make a jump animation for each mount and rig a player skeleton to the mount. This would be the trickiest part, rigging the different racial skeletons for riding. Well, really only the char since all the other share a basic human skeleton, just exaggerated here and there. I don`t know if they would bother with a mounting animation or just make it go poof under you but I could care less about that.

But if I were a dev , that`s how I`d do it. I`d make good available to everyone for gold and tokens and have more variety from the gemshop. Could even do a Pegasus that floats like the broom does to give the illusion of flight. I could go on and on about this subject.

Silvercyclone.1462:

GoddessOfTheWinds.2937:

1) Mounts would kitten off people in jumping puzzles
2) We have waypoints and asura gates to move around.
3) Mount are silly, horrible and useless junk
4) Did I say mounts are silly and I don’t want one? Never.
5) There will never be any mounts granting speed boost (we have skills for that) or that’d break so much content (such as jumping puzzles)
6) I prefer having a nice gear to distinguish my character to a silly mount that takes way too much space on my screen.

1) Agreed.
2) Agreed.
3) Only good mount is a cosmtic only mount.
4) I’ll only use it if there is no speed buff and it is just for looks.
5) Agreed.
6) Agreed.

1) Not if you turn of the graphic it won`t
2) Do you really liked being so limited?
3) That’s like saying the only good horse is a dead horse
4) You wouldn`t need to use it all if you didn`t want to. You seem to think if it were ingame you would need to use it.
5) If the mounts gave swiftness, how is that any different then what we have now? Does your castable swiftness buff break puzzles?
6) See #1

GoddessOfTheWinds.2937:

1) Mounts would kitten off people in jumping puzzles.
2) We have waypoints and asura gates to move around.
3) Mount are silly, horrible and useless junk
4) Did I say mounts are silly and I don’t want one? Never.
5) There will never be any mounts granting speed boost (we have skills for that) or that’d break so much content (such as jumping puzzles)
6) I prefer having a nice gear to distinguish my character to a silly mount that takes way too much space on my screen.

1) Automatic dismount in jumping puzzles. Problem solved.
2) I, and others like me, would use waypoints less frequently if we had a speed-boost mount to ride across country. In this way, contrary to the typical argument, mounts would actually increase the number of players crossing the persistent world.
3) Mounts can be awesome, wonderful, and useful additions to the game. Was there an actual argument in point 3?
4) You did. There are plenty of people, however who do. Soon.
5) You mentioned jumping puzzles already. What else would it “break”.
6) And others prefer to have mounts.

Onshidesigns.1069:

Droodle.5278:

Hi

I would like to earnestly suggest to the developers of Guild wars 2 that you INCLUDE MOUNTS IN THE GAME!!!!

Stop asking for this. Anet will never add large mounts faster than running speed.

There was no mention of the mounts moving faster than run speed, mounts would be great its not all about speed, but about fluff.

maybe then there would be something good in the gem store

OP is asking for cosmetic mounts then.

This game should keep cosmetic mounts different than other games.
*No dragons or other mythical creatures. They would be better as enemies anyways.
*keep them small
*Make them nonliving, magical, mechanical, Asuran, steampunk, clockwork, Cyberpunk.
*no horses

I think mounts would be okay if they were temporary and only limited to the area you are in. There’d be vendors located near the entrances to the area and essentially, you’re allowed to pick a mount of your choice to ride around. You can’t keep the mount and travel to another map or region, otherwise it disappears. It could be free or bought for a small fee, and maybe provide a 10% speed boost at most. If you’re hit and enter combat, your mount kicks you off and runs away.

Onshidesigns.1069:

OP is asking for cosmetic mounts then.

This game should keep cosmetic mounts different than other games.
*No dragons or other mythical creatures. They would be better as enemies anyways.
*keep them small
*Make them nonliving, magical, mechanical, Asuran, steampunk, clockwork, Cyberpunk.
*no horses

That`s pretty limited. What`s wrong with a horse? We have a game full of mythical creatures we kill on a daily basis but yet we couldn`t ride one?

gillius.2856:

Onshidesigns.1069:

Droodle.5278:

Hi

I would like to earnestly suggest to the developers of Guild wars 2 that you INCLUDE MOUNTS IN THE GAME!!!!

Stop asking for this. Anet will never add large mounts faster than running speed.

There was no mention of the mounts moving faster than run speed, mounts would be great its not all about speed, but about fluff.

maybe then there would be something good in the gem store

Actually the mount would give swiftness like a signet does. There would be no point to open my wallet for something that isn`t functional. We already have swiftness ingame, this would just be another way to attain it. I mentioned all the ideas for it a few comments up.

Synesence.7546:

I think mounts would be okay if they were temporary and only limited to the area you are in. There’d be vendors located near the entrances to the area and essentially, you’re allowed to pick a mount of your choice to ride around. You can’t keep the mount and travel to another map or region, otherwise it disappears. It could be free or bought for a small fee, and maybe provide a 10% speed boost at most. If you’re hit and enter combat, your mount kicks you off and runs away.

Some of you guys come up with some of the most WTF were you thinking ideas. That`s like saying, you can drive your car, but only in the driveway. And only in reverse!

Why does there have to be a limitation on something that should be fun or enjoyable? It`s like people always think that in order to have something good or fun you have to take something away first. I my previous comments I detailed plenty of ways that could be added and used that would pretty much make everyone happy. There really isn`t a need to limit it even more then it would be if implemented.

Banewrath.5107:

Synesence.7546:

I think mounts would be okay if they were temporary and only limited to the area you are in. There’d be vendors located near the entrances to the area and essentially, you’re allowed to pick a mount of your choice to ride around. You can’t keep the mount and travel to another map or region, otherwise it disappears. It could be free or bought for a small fee, and maybe provide a 10% speed boost at most. If you’re hit and enter combat, your mount kicks you off and runs away.

Some of you guys come up with some of the most WTF were you thinking ideas. That`s like saying, you can drive your car, but only in the driveway. And only in reverse!

Why does there have to be a limitation on something that should be fun or enjoyable? It`s like people always think that in order to have something good or fun you have to take something away first. I my previous comments I detailed plenty of ways that could be added and used that would pretty much make everyone happy. There really isn`t a need to limit it even more then it would be if implemented.

bring back the previous! =D

MeGaZlo.9516:

Banewrath.5107:

Synesence.7546:

I think mounts would be okay if they were temporary and only limited to the area you are in. There’d be vendors located near the entrances to the area and essentially, you’re allowed to pick a mount of your choice to ride around. You can’t keep the mount and travel to another map or region, otherwise it disappears. It could be free or bought for a small fee, and maybe provide a 10% speed boost at most. If you’re hit and enter combat, your mount kicks you off and runs away.

Some of you guys come up with some of the most WTF were you thinking ideas. That`s like saying, you can drive your car, but only in the driveway. And only in reverse!

Why does there have to be a limitation on something that should be fun or enjoyable? It`s like people always think that in order to have something good or fun you have to take something away first. I my previous comments I detailed plenty of ways that could be added and used that would pretty much make everyone happy. There really isn`t a need to limit it even more then it would be if implemented.

bring back the previous! =D

Yeah after posting I figured that was over the top and would start a totally different discussion haha. Gonna try and keep it civil and leave crotch punching my father out it this time.

EDIT
Actually why not, it was pretty funny.

The next time my father and I go for a walk in the part and if I see a nickel on the ground, this would be the dialogue of our conversation.

Me: Hey dad look a nickel!

Dad : Nice, grab it for the coin jar at home.

Me: well, I`m gonna have to punch you in the crotch first.

Dad: WTF!

Me: Yeah, I`m sorry but that`s how it`s gotta be

Dad: But I don`t want to get punched in the crotch!

Me: Too bad old timer hold yer breath, here it comes!

Dad: Wait, Wait,Wait!

Me: Speak quickly before sentence is passed old man!

Dad: Why do you need to punch me in the crotch before you pick up the nickel?

Me: I don`t really want to dad, but if people don`t want you picking up change without hitting someone in the crotch first, this is what`s gotta happen.

Dad: Since when?

Me: Since GW2

Dad: What is GW2?

Me: Stop stalling geezer!

Dad: But. but

Me: Just kiddin pop, I`d never punch you in the crotch, hey lets go get some ice cream! Just leave that old nickel to rot!

Dad: Sounds good son.

Me: How much for 2 vanilla cones?

Ice Cream Man: $2.05

Me: I got a dollar on me, how much you have Dad?

Dad: I have a dollar too.

/Dad hits the floor screaming in pain from a crotch punch.

I kinda went off topic with it but I thought it was funny. My father probably won`t next time I see him though.

Let’s be logical. In any game mounts will not be superfluous. Another thing is that the game is not very suitable for mounts. Not vice versa. You can not add mounts here with huge speed gain. it may ruin some aspects of the game. Customize these aspects under such innovation – is too time-consuming.
Another thing is that if we introduce mounts as the usual decorative bauble – very few people will want to buy it themselves. Trust me on a word. Therefore it’s not worth to be introduced.
Hence there are 3 options:
1) There should be a regular speed buff, but not more than the maximum possible. 25-33%. It will relieve some of the classes of seting special skills to move faster. Hence it makes a decorative element to raise the quality of the game. Many people will buy it for the sake of convenience. Moreover, it would not affect nor of any game aspects.
2) Mounts should have unique skills, and be like the transformation of the tonics. This will create a kind of mini-game and adds a bit of variation and ma-a-agic (In terms of fun). Allowing to feel yourself like cavalry soldier or a rider of multi-ton dolyak. People will want to buy it for fun.
3) Both. The best option.

However, to avoid any inconsistencies – should prohibit their use in all aspects of the current pvp (except specially designed).

However, I would not want them to just sold for gems. It spoils “sense of immersion”. Cutting them from the world, by bringing the whole process of getting to the grind of money (of which there more then enough) A collection of mounts will be much more valuable then collection of pets. Wherefore devs should introduce different methods for their preparation. Drop, exploration, pvp rewards, etc.

Banewrath.5107:

Onshidesigns.1069:

OP is asking for cosmetic mounts then.

This game should keep cosmetic mounts different than other games.
*No dragons or other mythical creatures. They would be better as enemies anyways.
*keep them small
*Make them nonliving, magical, mechanical, Asuran, steampunk, clockwork, Cyberpunk.
*no horses

That`s pretty limited. What`s wrong with a horse? We have a game full of mythical creatures we kill on a daily basis but yet we couldn`t ride one?

Horses would Nords too tall. Riding mythical creatures just seems too silly.

I don’t think it would be limiting for Anet to create cosmetic mounts with these themes “nonliving, magical, magic tech, mechanical, Asuran, steampunk, clockwork, Cyberpunk”.