Guild Wars 2

I’d be fine with an inspect that’s regulated to skin names. No mention of Knight’s or Zerker’s.

The problems I see with a stat inspect are:
1) They promote elitism, what the elitist in this thread don’t seem to understand is most people prefer optimal to viable, if the option is made available, elitism could become the norm, which makes for a horrible entry barrier for new dungeoneers.
2) Likewise it also promotes the community running meta builds, which can lead to be players being unable to experiment and find new more powerful setups.

Bright.9160:

Equinox.4968:

Besides, you’ll “carry” people who have great gear but no skills. Gear alone means very little. The best player might be ungeared, and the worst might have fine gear. How does gear tell you anything at all? The best possible stats mean nothing without experience and intelligence.

Aren’t you the guy who basically suggested that Anet should make some sort of ‘test of skill’ that people need to pass in order to play the game?

So an inspect is totally off limits, but something as intrusive and quite insulting as having a test before being allowed to play a game is totally normal.

That sounds fair…

Not a test before being allowed to play a game, simply in-game tests to show that you actually know what you’re doing before you can access certain content. And an inspect tells you nothing about skill, and skill, not stats, will save you in this game. You could have the most incredible looking armor with the highest stats in the game, yet if you don’t know what you’re doing (as all too many people in this game don’t), you’re toast. Better to test skill—what actually matters—rather than gear, which is important but not outcome-determinative.

Dual.8953:

I’d be fine with an inspect that’s regulated to skin names. No mention of Knight’s or Zerker’s.

The problems I see with a stat inspect are:
1) They promote elitism, what the elitist in this thread don’t seem to understand is most people prefer optimal to viable, if the option is made available, elitism could become the norm, which makes for a horrible entry barrier for new dungeoneers.
2) Likewise it also promotes the community running meta builds, which can lead to be players being unable to experiment and find new more powerful setups.

/inspecting people doesn’t promote elitism. Running the same dungeon 1000 times and figuring out the best way to do it, then berating others for not also having the same level of experience creates elitism.

The barrier to entry is already pretty static for new dungeoneers. If you don’t explicitly say in your post or when you join the group that it’s your first time in the dungeon, people are going to call you out for not knowing what to do. Regardless if their trying to optimize their run or not.

Your second point is kind of an individual issue. If you don’t have the audacity to try out new builds in a group setting, you should either find more tolerable people to group with, or man up and try out your build.

Usually the “new more powerful setups” are figured out with tweaking the meta builds, anyway. You find the most optimal build, and you find a little tweak, and if it improves the build, well there you have progress! I mean, you can come up with an optimal build that no one has ever thought of that completely deviates from the meta…it’s possible but doesn’t happen often.

The phrase “standing on the shoulders of giants” seems pretty apt here. You take the progress of others and you expand on it—aka, examine the meta, and improve it. You can start from scratch and find something better, but like i said, that type of progress occurs a lot less frequently than incremental development.

You can’t really " find new more powerful setups " anymore.
Theorycrafters have things nailed down usually a few hours after a patch is released. I do it for warrior traits and gear, I’m sure each class has their own people like this.
And there are more – far better people at it than me.

The only people experimenting are the ones who don’t have the know-how to access the meta. And the ones that are stubbornly trying to play a sub-par spec just because " they like it " .

I’d like to agree on inspection of just cosmetic information, I and assuming a load of other players ‘Player gaze’ in LA when doing any type of academic work or just don’t have the desire to run something or farm and go ‘OH! That’s amazing looking! That color scheme is just above par’. So in short, I’d vote on cosmetic inspection without permission from the opposing player. Then if you’d like their gears pinged ask to ping like what we have now, or I’d even go as far as a ‘full’ inspection (along side of the normal cosmetic inspection make them to different options) option that would ask the opposing player to accept or decline prior to the inspection. Some players don’t mind showing their gear traits and such, reading these post players make it seem that once you’re in a group you’re stuck there. ignore and walk away if you don’t want to be inspected there are many people out their who have the same opinion on the inspection issue. You can certainly find a group that fits to your ideals. But when it comes to such things as ‘Speed clears’, it’s just like any other structured team or group. Players have spent plenty of time into trying to find what traits will benefit certain events and instances the ‘best’, so if you don’t want to abide by those regulations of what is described as the ‘best’ way to run certain items in the game, simply explain your theory of how your different build is better or just as efficient, or go and find a group that allows for you to run your build. I don’t see inspection bringing more ‘elitist’ to what there already are with the pinging option already in the game.

Being able to easily share you build would be nice. But, here’s the thing, most of the people asking for it are highly egotistical and only want it to enforce their view upon others. I’m certain Anet would have given this option to Casual players from day one. Because casual’s wouldn’t abuse it.

Harper.4173:

You’re asking why he’s in a rush to do the dungeons – same reason I’m in a rush- GOLD. I want to get the max amount of gold possible for my time spent in that dungeon. Since the gold reward is FIXED the only way to fix this is to spend as little time inside as possible.
And yes – an inspect function is necessary. I should’t have to build a guild just so I know the people are " safe" to play with.

To what end? Why is that fun?

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

@unrelated – Kal – i ran a run of AC with some people from TC a few days ago. They refused to skip and generally wasted a lot of time in the run. I can’t help but feel your name is familiar. Did we run in the same run by any chance?

Oddly enough I did run AC recently, but unless you were guesting I don’t think the one guy who pugged in was you. I’m crap with names though, so I couldn’t say for sure. We did the ghost eater, and I “tanked” the graveling trap part. At least one of the group had never done the dungeon at all, and none of us had done it since they apparently changed the end fight.

Kal Spiro.9745:

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

TL;DR – I don’t feel the need for /inspect, so no one else should.

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

TL;DR – There isn’t a need for /inspect, so I never felt it.

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I’ve seen this topic so many times.

Players fearing elitism in a game that already has it, and promotes it in many ways, is borderline babyish.

As for talking about about player privacy? Its not like the suggestion is the ability to undress your character and be able to take secret screenies. ^^

I’m all in for this, it helps promote being social(^^) in my honest opinion, but that’s from me to whoever i’m talking to, I can’t promise EVERYONE using this system will do so nicely, if i see another heavy armored human walking around in sick looking gear, chances are i know what it is just from looking at it, but that comes from playing the game for a year now and a variety of level 80’s in a game that promotes Aesthetic appearance of characters an important trait. Dyes obviously vary, but after a while you learn pretty quickly what armour is because one of the things we lack is variety a year on.

On the other side of the spectrum is using inspection to see traits, stats, etc. I’m all for this as well, purely because I would love to be able to troll around while AFK and just look, and if something looks anything different from mine, i’d sure as hell love to know the reasoning behind a different build, not because I’m elitist, despite the fact i do suffer from a varying degree of elitism, but just because it would enable us to start a conversation with someone.

If someone decides to harass you for your choice, there should be a report function for it and by all means get anti-social players out the game. Your doing the world a favour by antagonizing these people who cant mind their own business and feel the need to bully.

People are assuming inspection will bring in random conversations from strangers popping up “OMFG noob why you traited like that!??!?” and in all fairness, it probably still happens anyway, but i would rather ask someone “Do you have a moment to talk about your traits I’m kinda interested in the way your playing.”

Without sounding too ‘hippy’ i love the idea of a bit more social interactions. Let the Cof speed runners go and be kittens among themselves, running cof in a normal group isn’t that much slower, and if your in a guild, take your guildies for puppies sake its why your in that guild surely.

Not only that but if someone needs help with their traits and it doesn’t come natural making builds, the ability to inspect would make helping my guildies a lot easier.

I can genuinely see no harm come from this feature, as it already in sPvP, i can’t see the huge issue with not having it elsewhere. I played WoW right up to Mists of Pandaria, and i feel i made the right choice moving over to GW2 but in all my time playing, i never had a situation where i found myself scrutinized, and players tended to not want to talk to me about my build, because they didn’t wanna talk, addon let me know who was inspecting me and i personally was never harmed in any way from it.

I say bring it on.

Taralom.9562:

I’m all in for this, it helps promote socialism in my honest opinion

There you have it. Elitism and /inspect makes you a Socialist.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

TL;DR – There isn’t a need for /inspect, so I never felt it.

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just because you don’t need it doesn’t mean others also don’t need it.

Personally, i don’t have all the skins memorized and i don’t feel like alt-tabbing to dulfy every time i see a shiny i don’t recognize. With /inspect being such a ubiquitous feature in MMOs, i think it would fit in well in GW2, especially when there is such an emphasis on gear skins and collecting shinies in this game.

For someone so concerned about elitists, i find it funny that you seem to have forgotten what it’s like to be a new player that doesn’t know every facet of the game.

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

TL;DR – There isn’t a need for /inspect, so I never felt it.

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just because you don’t need it doesn’t mean others also don’t need it.

Personally, i don’t have all the skins memorized and i don’t feel like alt-tabbing to dulfy every time i see a shiny i don’t recognize. With /inspect being such a ubiquitous feature in MMOs, i think it would fit in well in GW2, especially when there is such an emphasis on gear skins and collecting shinies in this game.

For someone so concerned about elitists, i find it funny that you seem to have forgotten what it’s like to be a new player that doesn’t know every facet of the game.

Oh good, I don’t have to edit afterall.

Nobody NEEDS this. You don’t need it. You want it. This is something you want. Maybe you want it so you can enjoy the variety of play the people partake of. Maybe you want it so you can check out the nifty outfits people are wearing. Most people want it so they can dictate how someone should and should not play and what is and is not an acceptable build. Nobody needs to do any of those things. They just want to.

I would love to have a way to view the name of a cool piece of armor so I could preview it on myself. But I don’t want to compromise with the ability for people to dictate other peoples play styles to acquire it. I don’t need that either.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

TL;DR – There isn’t a need for /inspect, so I never felt it.

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just because you don’t need it doesn’t mean others also don’t need it.

Personally, i don’t have all the skins memorized and i don’t feel like alt-tabbing to dulfy every time i see a shiny i don’t recognize. With /inspect being such a ubiquitous feature in MMOs, i think it would fit in well in GW2, especially when there is such an emphasis on gear skins and collecting shinies in this game.

For someone so concerned about elitists, i find it funny that you seem to have forgotten what it’s like to be a new player that doesn’t know every facet of the game.

Oh good, I don’t have to edit afterall.

Nobody NEEDS this. You don’t need it. You want it. This is something you want. Maybe you want it so you can enjoy the variety of play the people partake of. Maybe you want it so you can check out the nifty outfits people are wearing. Most people want it so they can dictate how someone should and should not play and what is and is not an acceptable build. Nobody needs to do any of those things. They just want to.

I would love to have a way to view the name of a cool piece of armor so I could preview it on myself. But I don’t want to compromise with the ability for people to dictate other peoples play styles to acquire it. I don’t need that either.

This is the suggestions forum. Nobody needs anything. You don’t need to play the game, Anet doesn’t need to update the game any further. You could go to any thread on this forum and make that argument, lol.

But the game does exist and I do play it. If they want to continue to be successful in this market they do, in fact, need to update it. There are plenty of suggestions that are universally beneficial, or for things that should have been fixed or implemented forever ago. There are things that need to exist but don’t. This just isn’t one of those things.

But I will concede, you are right. You could go to just about any thread here and say “This is something you want, not something you need.” What you should take away, though, is most of them don’t claim otherwise.

I think that, more than anything, is what keeps bringing me back here. Nobody needs this. I mean hell, look at it. Nobody is willing to leave this game if they didn’t get this, but people are if it was implemented. Based on that, while nobody needs this to exist, there are actually people who apparently do need it not to in order to continue playing.

Kal Spiro.9745:

But the game does exist and I do play it. If they want to continue to be successful in this market they do, in fact, need to update it. There are plenty of suggestions that are universally beneficial, or for things that should have been fixed or implemented forever ago. There are things that need to exist but don’t. This just isn’t one of those things.

But I will concede, you are right. You could go to just about any thread here and say “This is something you want, not something you need.” What you should take away, though, is most of them don’t claim otherwise.

I think that, more than anything, is what keeps bringing me back here. Nobody needs this. I mean hell, look at it. Nobody is willing to leave this game if they didn’t get this, but people are if it was implemented. Based on that, while nobody needs this to exist, there are actually people who apparently do need it not to in order to continue playing.

But your reasons for wanting to leave are based on a superstition that “elitists” will take over. If that’s the case, i’m surprised you haven’t already left.

Every invasion i’ve been in, the map chat has been overwhelmed with people yelling at each other “you noobs realize the farm here sucks, right?” What we’re seeing is the elitists you fear so much calling out people because…why? They aren’t farming the best way possible? Sure, they might not be wrong, but the only reason you would be calling out people in map chat is to get a rise out of people.

There is always going to be a percentage of the population that sucks, and get their kicks off the misery of others. They thrive in dungeons by belittling others for not having “the most optimal gear” and they thrive in the open world by belittling others for “not farming the absolute best way possible” Heck, i’ve even seen people get called out in WvW for not having enough Vita/Toughness.

You believe that /inspect will give these players the ability judge you based on your gear. That may be the case, but it wont increase the frequency of your encounters with these types of people any more than you already tolerate. And it’s been said a million times already, if someone is going to use gear as criteria for joining their group, then find another group with other people that don’t care about gear.

stale.9785:

Nobody wants to give the elitist tools more ways to be elitist tools.

Lol. This is win.

Scrambles.2604:

Kal Spiro.9745:

But the game does exist and I do play it. If they want to continue to be successful in this market they do, in fact, need to update it. There are plenty of suggestions that are universally beneficial, or for things that should have been fixed or implemented forever ago. There are things that need to exist but don’t. This just isn’t one of those things.

But I will concede, you are right. You could go to just about any thread here and say “This is something you want, not something you need.” What you should take away, though, is most of them don’t claim otherwise.

I think that, more than anything, is what keeps bringing me back here. Nobody needs this. I mean hell, look at it. Nobody is willing to leave this game if they didn’t get this, but people are if it was implemented. Based on that, while nobody needs this to exist, there are actually people who apparently do need it not to in order to continue playing.

But your reasons for wanting to leave are based on a superstition that “elitists” will take over. If that’s the case, i’m surprised you haven’t already left.

Every invasion i’ve been in, the map chat has been overwhelmed with people yelling at each other “you noobs realize the farm here sucks, right?” What we’re seeing is the elitists you fear so much calling out people because…why? They aren’t farming the best way possible? Sure, they might not be wrong, but the only reason you would be calling out people in map chat is to get a rise out of people.

There is always going to be a percentage of the population that sucks, and get their kicks off the misery of others. They thrive in dungeons by belittling others for not having “the most optimal gear” and they thrive in the open world by belittling others for “not farming the absolute best way possible” Heck, i’ve even seen people get called out in WvW for not having enough Vita/Toughness.

You believe that /inspect will give these players the ability judge you based on your gear. That may be the case, but it wont increase the frequency of your encounters with these types of people any more than you already tolerate. And it’s been said a million times already, if someone is going to use gear as criteria for joining their group, then find another group with other people that don’t care about gear.

The problem is, in dungeons you’re forced to party. True or not, the general perception is when you add inspect, the elitist take over. I’ve heard countless horror stories about how in WoW, when they released gear scores, lots of people got stranded in their gear grind, disallowed from every run tey wanted to join, just because they didn’t have the gear. (Even when they needed that dungeon to get said gear)

This topic has a faul World of Warcraft stench all over it.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Harper.4173:

You’re asking why he’s in a rush to do the dungeons – same reason I’m in a rush- GOLD. I want to get the max amount of gold possible for my time spent in that dungeon. Since the gold reward is FIXED the only way to fix this is to spend as little time inside as possible.
And yes – an inspect function is necessary. I should’t have to build a guild just so I know the people are " safe" to play with.

To what end? Why is that fun?

In any respect, based on the way the game has been built, presented by the Devs, and frequently updated, I have to disagree. I think you should have to join, if not build, a guild of like minded people to stay safe from the unclean masses. You’re right, you shouldn’t be required to play with me, any more than I should be required to play with you. But, I’ve never had any trouble finding like minded players without /inspect, so I don’t see why it would improve my time now. You guys are the ones that want to band together, so band and leave us alone, then there remains no need for this thing.

@unrelated – Kal – i ran a run of AC with some people from TC a few days ago. They refused to skip and generally wasted a lot of time in the run. I can’t help but feel your name is familiar. Did we run in the same run by any chance?

Oddly enough I did run AC recently, but unless you were guesting I don’t think the one guy who pugged in was you. I’m crap with names though, so I couldn’t say for sure. We did the ghost eater, and I “tanked” the graveling trap part. At least one of the group had never done the dungeon at all, and none of us had done it since they apparently changed the end fight.

Kal- it’s fun because i’m a reward oriented player. I play for gain not necessarily for the experience. I did at first but it gets old after the first dozen runs.
I want the tools to be able to band together with people like me. Oddly enough it’s your crowd that keeps wanting to sneak in. I always write " expert " and " be experienced " and " speedrun" in my group posts but oddly enough I still get people that have no idea what they are doing.

I’ve been new at games too – but that didn’t mean i went in with no proper know-how to the serious aspects of the game.
If there’s something I could impart to you and players like you is " Educate yourselves". You don’t need " super mega elitist 1337 skills " to watch a youtube video or read a description of the encounter you will be facing.

-also we didn’t run AC together. I was on P3 with those guys.

also TL/DR – I feel a need for inspect and there are many players that feel likewise. So then why are you denying OUR need for it?
But we’re somehow supposed to respect YOUR need not to have it.

There are things that need to exist but don’t. This just isn’t one of those things.

WHY? Because you say so? Who are YOU to say what should and shouldn’t exist?
I want to know where you get the supreme authority on everything.

ALSO – TO ALL WOW FANS.
This is GW2. You can BUY Gear here. You don’t need gear in order to farm gear ( as in WoW – bad gear = no raids. no raids = no good gear = no raids loop). You can farm WHATEVER you want ( even zerg farming in blues and greens is effective as stated above) and eventually get the money to get the gear you need to run with the cool elitist kids. After that it’s just a matter of stepping up your game ( which is actually why all of them are so against this idea).

Let’s face it – the people opposing this aren’t doing it because they’re afraid of being excluded because of gear – they can get the gear. They’re afraid of being excluded because they’re not like minded.
And the funny thing is they claim to not even want to be included. They don’t want to run with " elitist scum " but they won’t let us have the tools to keep away from them.

As stated above – even though I try I always get people like this in my dungeons. I’m considering using the tag " elitist scum only " for my runs. Perhaps that might make it clearer.

I wouldn’t mind having an inspect option, I wouldn’t use it anyway so it makes no difference. Also, my main is a ranger, so elitists do not want me in their parties while playing my main, already xD

Also, if anybody kicks me from a party because, I dunno, I am playing a condition alt or my backpiece is not ascended, that’s a person I don’t really want to play with, so whatever. I would rather play with nice people than with people that think thay they are better than me because they are full zerker.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Taralom.9562:

I’m all in for this, it helps promote socialism in my honest opinion

There you have it. Elitism and /inspect makes you a Socialist.

Well.. Some would label me an elitist. I’m all for an /inspect function, but I’d prefer templates. And I’m most definitely a socialist.

So far it works out… Need more statistical data though. But right now, 100% of elitists who want /inspect are socialists.

Harper.4173:

As stated above – even though I try I always get people like this in my dungeons. I’m considering using the tag " elitist scum only " for my runs. Perhaps that might make it clearer.

I love this idea, but I know it won’t work because people are stupid. I, at least, read those things and know when I’m not the guy they’re looking for. It’s pretty obvious if you do or do not fit the mold, so I don’t know why or how anyone could get confused.

I think the main reason I seem to care so much is because I’m not willing to change my build for anyone, but I still want to complete some of these dungeons. I’m trying to push back, rather than give ground. It’s very hard to actually find a group for some dungeons/paths because they all read like a dating add for elitism. I’m hoping that if I fight the fight that maybe that can turn around and people who just want to do it for fun, not just reward oriented people will become more available and I can tick another one off my list.

The more ground, though, that is given to those who aren’t willing to compromise and who have no interest in my way of playing the harder it is to actually find that group.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Harper.4173:

As stated above – even though I try I always get people like this in my dungeons. I’m considering using the tag " elitist scum only " for my runs. Perhaps that might make it clearer.

I love this idea, but I know it won’t work because people are stupid. I, at least, read those things and know when I’m not the guy they’re looking for. It’s pretty obvious if you do or do not fit the mold, so I don’t know why or how anyone could get confused.

I think the main reason I seem to care so much is because I’m not willing to change my build for anyone, but I still want to complete some of these dungeons. I’m trying to push back, rather than give ground. It’s very hard to actually find a group for some dungeons/paths because they all read like a dating add for elitism. I’m hoping that if I fight the fight that maybe that can turn around and people who just want to do it for fun, not just reward oriented people will become more available and I can tick another one off my list.

The more ground, though, that is given to those who aren’t willing to compromise and who have no interest in my way of playing the harder it is to actually find that group.

gw2lfg.com You can post your own group, with any description you want. Update every few minutes and it will generally fill. No matter the description.

There are even folks that specifically look for those all inclusive groups to join, pretty much everyone in this and other threads opposing /inspect for one example.

I would love an inspect feature.

I wish I could inspect just to see what armor or weapon model they are using. I have seen some really cool weapons & armor & have no clue what it is. Leave out the stats, just give me the name of the weapon / armor to I can google how to get it.

Llyren.3904:

Kal Spiro.9745:

I, at least, read those things and know when I’m not the guy they’re looking for.

gw2lfg.com You can post your own group, with any description you want. Update every few minutes and it will generally fill. No matter the description.

There are even folks that specifically look for those all inclusive groups to join, pretty much everyone in this and other threads opposing /inspect for one example.

I’m guess you didn’t understand this line when I wrote it. I’m already well aware of that site and use it.

Kal Spiro.9745:

Llyren.3904:

Kal Spiro.9745:

I, at least, read those things and know when I’m not the guy they’re looking for.

gw2lfg.com You can post your own group, with any description you want. Update every few minutes and it will generally fill. No matter the description.

There are even folks that specifically look for those all inclusive groups to join, pretty much everyone in this and other threads opposing /inspect for one example.

I’m guess you didn’t understand this line when I wrote it. I’m already well aware of that site and use it.

I was aware of that line as well. The “dating add for elitism” and it being very hard to find groups for some paths, that removes any impression that you post your own group advertisements.