Guild Wars 2

Please take our money and let us please race change. Myself and a number of people I’ve asked about it as well would love to be able to get exactly what they want with their characters. Many of us gear our characters with the best that can be found and once everything is said and done feel like the wish they had rolled X, instead.

I know a great deal of people like I said who would love this…

And as far as how it would effect the toon. I’d suggest simply having any cultural gear say bound to another race, similar to soul bound items. And personal story can just be reset.

Anet has already said this will never happen, and personally I refuse to believe that you can take a character to level 80 only to then realise you don’t like that character’s race.

Roll a new character and get over it.

no, too much complications with cultural armor (it gives titles to get all pieces, and it is soulbound for a reason). Yes you could easily say that using a race change will remove any cultural armor (but not the achievement count). But no matter how many warnings you stick on it, people will start complaining that they lost it without realising.

Story is even more complicated. Replaying story is a huge advantage cause you get rewards again, so that would be totally out of balance. Besides that it wouldnt make sense to suddenly have a wrong race for what is ‘your story’.

Also the alternate solution is very simple, reroll your character with the right race

The last reason to say no is the way that some people (not you) have been behaving here over a simular suggestion.

“Anet has already said this will never happen” = FALSE .
Generally all the statements with “never,ever,forever,etc” are false :P .
Especially this one on the race change,that,apart from the first 2/3 months when there was a “never”,is now not anymore a taboo for anet,and is something like “we don’t give this option AT THE MOMENT”.
Things may(will) change,considering all the soulbound things they add in the game;one day,they will be like “forced” from themself to give such option.

There are already a lot of threads about a race change option,and i belive that many peoples would like such option.

Try to google “gw2 race change” and you will 100 discussions on the gw2 forum(btw,the search function of the gw2 site does not work properly,and you can’t find anything,so use google ).
You will also find many discussions about a race change scroll out of the gw2 forum, like on reddit , mmmporg , and many other gaming sites intrested in gw2.
The solution is not that hard to find:

-Q : do you want to have a race change?I’ll reset all your personal story,erase all racial armor skin you have,order choice,and you will get no reward if you do personal story again for your new race.

-A : ok , take my money , bye.

This would be the reaction of a player heavly unhappy of his race look,that already have too many soulbound items/progress and doesn’t want to reroll(and belive me ,is not the best thing log in a play with a character that you don’t like anymore,and log out 5 minutes after , just because you would like to play THE SAME CLASS with just another race ).
And…about teh “immersion” in the game , would have a lesser inpact have a change race scroll on the gem store,than an ugly character (with 1 year of soulbound progress) that you feel no more representative of you in the game.

Nirvana.8659:

“Anet has already said this will never happen” = FALSE .
Generally all the statements with “never,ever,forever,etc” are false :P .
Especially this one on the race change,that,apart from the first 2/3 months when there was a “never”,is now not anymore a taboo for anet,and is something like “we don’t give this option AT THE MOMENT”.
Things may(will) change,considering all the soulbound things they add in the game;one day,they will be like “forced” from themself to give such option.

Anet has already stated that race change will NOT be an option:

http://guildwars2.mmmos.com/?page=view&id=2445&title=race-change-not-happening

“CC Eva, Community Coordinator

Hi everyone.
Thanks for asking. To change the race in the Gem store will not be an option in Guild Wars 2."

Just because you do not like this particular fact doesn’t make it any less true.

Uknorthener , btw you take the disturb to find this answer,please look also at the date.
After that,go,and google "gw2 race change " and you will find some recent answer.

this is what i’ve said :
“apart from the first 2/3 months when there was a “never”,is now not anymore a taboo for anet,and is something like “we don’t give this option AT THE MOMENT”.

I told that in the first 2/3 months ,the answer WAS “NEVER” ,but as usual,the word “never” is abused,and,if you go look at the most recent devs repsonce,no one says “NEVER” anymore,instead they keep answering that there is “nothing on the table AT MOMENT”,and…even if my english is barely understandble,i think i can get the meaning of “AT THE MOMENT”.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Change-race-order-facility/page/7#post3092375 ;

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Possibility-for-a-race-change-item ;

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guildwars2guru.com%2Farenanet-tracker%2Ftopic%2F258544-race-change%2F

Just because you do not like this particular fact doesn’t make it any less true. ;D

Nirvana.8659:

Uknorthener , btw you take the disturb to find this answer,please look also at the date.
After that,go,and google "gw2 race change " and you will find some recent answer.

this is what i’ve said :
“apart from the first 2/3 months when there was a “never”,is now not anymore a taboo for anet,and is something like “we don’t give this option AT THE MOMENT”.

I told that in the first 2/3 months ,the answer WAS “NEVER” ,but as usual,the word “never” is abused,and,if you go look at the most recent devs repsonce,no one says “NEVER” anymore,instead they keep answering that there is “nothing on the table AT MOMENT”,and…even if my english is barely understandble,i think i can get the meaning of “AT THE MOMENT”.

Just because you do not like this particular fact doesn’t make it any less true. ;D

I’ve read the date of that post – 1st October 2013. THIS MONTH. Also, someone in this thread below posted a response they got from ANet stating the same thing – you should know, because you posted enough in it!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Change-race-order-facility/first

uknortherner.2670:

Nirvana.8659:

Uknorthener , btw you take the disturb to find this answer,please look also at the date.
After that,go,and google "gw2 race change " and you will find some recent answer.

this is what i’ve said :
“apart from the first 2/3 months when there was a “never”,is now not anymore a taboo for anet,and is something like “we don’t give this option AT THE MOMENT”.

I told that in the first 2/3 months ,the answer WAS “NEVER” ,but as usual,the word “never” is abused,and,if you go look at the most recent devs repsonce,no one says “NEVER” anymore,instead they keep answering that there is “nothing on the table AT MOMENT”,and…even if my english is barely understandble,i think i can get the meaning of “AT THE MOMENT”.

Just because you do not like this particular fact doesn’t make it any less true. ;D

I’ve read the date of that post – 1st October 2013. THIS MONTH.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Race-Change/first#post272286

read better please,because if i’m not crazy,when i open this link,the dev responce is dated “about 1 year agò”.

In the while you edit all teh post,and go check my answer cronology,take the time to read the links i provided in each post.
There are more recent devs responce about the topic.
MAN READ before post outdated info.

Regards.

Then their position hasn’t changed since that time then. Let it go – it’s not happening.

The fanaticism of some people who really can’t take “no” for an answer really astounds me. It reminds me of the EU and the various “no” results in national referendums relating to shady treaties that people want nothing to do with – “No” is the incorrect answer, and you will vote again until you learn to vote the “correct” way, except here, “no” is the wrong answer and we will continue to hassle you until you change your mind.

ok looks like you don’t want to read.
Nothing i can add apart the LINKS with direct/most recent info.

And…well if u say “nothing has changed” from the 1 YEAR AGò sentence,to the last one….then ok i must be crazy .

“Will never happen” sounds quite different from “is not on the table atm” or from “FOR NOW, we feel that it would take away from the experience of Guild Wars 2 for the majority of players”.

Things change,may be later it will take less away from the experience of gw2 let a player change his race,instead of make him not even play the game because he doesn’t like his character.

But ok ,if you say it’s not happeing,i’ll belive you ;D.

uknortherner.2670:

The fanaticism of some people who really can’t take “no” for an answer really astounds me. It reminds me of the EU and the various “no” results in national referendums relating to shady treaties that people want nothing to do with – “No” is the incorrect answer, and you will vote again until you learn to vote the “correct” way, except here, “no” is the wrong answer and we will continue to hassle you until you change your mind.

Ok,you edited again.
People who really can’t handle a discussion astounds me .

-The OP make his suggestion.
-You come here to say “never” happening,you also quote a developer.
-You also argue this quote is only 1 months old,you also dated it at the…1st october..wow.
-Then i provide you some link to read (ooohhh…read is boooring i know…but sometimes it helps you to understand the point of view/history about some developers reply,that you obiviusly missed).
-After you completely ignore my links(and thats obivius considering your answers(otherwise i must say someone here is a fanatic of the “no / i don’t give the…”yes"),you come here again,go completely offtopic and make some comparsion between “some” EU national referendum and , the attitude of some players that is having trouble with the GW2 IMMERSION for his character looks and keep asking for a race change scroll.
Sorry,who is the fanatic here?

We are here to discuss and we may have different opinions.
Please stay on topic.
Please remain civil towards eachother on this forum(give someone a fanatic etiquette is not nice,especially considering the offtopic).
Please,discuss,give your opinions,but respect the others people ideas(i may like/you may not).
If you don’t like a change race scroll idea,it’s totally fine for me,and i think whoever read this forum got the idea of your unhappyness about a race change scroll.
I like the race change idea.
The anet last repsonce about this topic,does not imply that a race change option will ever happen,nor does it mean that it will happen anytime soon.

Again,have a nice day.

Agree with OP. I would love to have a race change. It’s not that you had no clue what your character looked like leveling it to 80, it’s just that maybe you didn’t know all the things that were available. For example, my first character and my main to this day is a Norn Mesmer. When I first started this game I had no clue what culture gear was or what it looked like. Had I known about it, I would have made a human. So, I think people would like to switch races in light of new information they come across throughout their game play.

I think the arguments against it are weak. As far as personal story goes …just come up with an equation. If you chose path 1 as a Human then that equals path 1 as a Sylvari, etc. If RPers are that worried about it then let them reroll.

In regards to the culture gear achievement, you receive the achievement when you BUY the gear, not when you equip it. So just have a conversion for the skins. If the person wants the achievement then they can buy the gear again.

Whether or not ANet implements this, it probably won’t be any time soon. So you’re probably better off starting a new toon if it is a pressing urgency right now.

You can start off with a scroll to jump you straight to level 20 if you have one (from Achievement Chests and character “birthdays”.) Completing all of the 6 capital cities will get you several more levels quickly without ever having to enter combat. And if you have the patience and resources, maxing out a craft can give you about 10 levels for each one.

There is almost ZERO difference in gameplay between the races. You will not be “better” as far as that goes. Experiencing the cultural portion of your storyline is the biggest difference between the races. That comes in the early parts of his adventures. So if immersion is your main issue (the OP never really says why he wants a change) then starting from scratch is absolutely the best way to bond with your character.

The leveling is annoying, I know. And you don’t want to trash a max level character and roll up the exact same thing. Understood. I can not understand if it is just character “looks”, though, since you knew from the start exactly what you were facing on that count. And looks can be altered (within your race).

So tell us please, BetterHappy, so we can understand. Why exactly do you need an instant-change now of all times, after fully leveling and max-equipping your character? uknortherner is blunt, but he is right in that it is very difficult to fathom how you could have put all that effort into a character that you did not feel you were bonding with. And now you want the exact same thing with a different body?

+1 race change!

;)

Humans and Norns: (best armors and animations)

- We dont need race change!

Azuras and Chars (lvl 80):

- we need race change.

For the argument that you don’t know how you can level to 80 and then want another race, it’s simple. Believe it or not a large number of players care absolutely zero about pve, aside from gear. Myself and a large number of players that I know personally enjoy WvW but dispise PvE because we find it dull boring and a lot of other things… I for one have played mapping games in the past and aside from high level fractals with a good enough group to do it the reward vs time for PvE is a joke. But without derailing, my point is that many of the characters we play in WvW, that are really for WvW only, are crafted to 80 and geared with ascended trinkets as soon as possible from currency from other characters. It’s very easy to enjoy learning a new class and thinking you’ve picked the right race and everything, but the simple truth is that after you log in excess of 500 hours on what was a new toon at the time, many of us wish we had rolled differently. Some times it’s because the animations, some times it’s just because you want to make it look good. But regardless it is very easy for people to level to 80 and decide later what would be the finishing touches for your new class. Because I don’t play this game to level, I play for PvP and to be quite honest the balance of sPvP is even more hideous than WvW that until I find 4 other players since sPvP is a team mode, and yolo que is a joke. But until then I enjoy wvw, and leveling puts me to sleep. And myself and most of the wvw players I know are not playing on characters crafted to 80 and geared from the currency they got on those original characters that just sit in idle now. And it’s not like we picked a random race for the new toon. Sometimes it’s just, “X looks good in this, I’ll play X”, craft it to 80 gear it and a little down the line you go, kitten , I wish I had X instead.

Honestly, if you could actually scrab the gear from one toon to another and transfer all those miserable trinkets for the most likely 3+ sets of gear you most likely have… Then yeah, I’d just craft to 80 all day and consider the gold and mats a kick in the head to say you should have picked better last time. But because of how long gearing multiple sets takes, it’s just not worth making another toon to the majority of players in my position, and I think it’d be really nice if they just take my money and let me have animations I want

If I haven’t supported your thread already, I fully support a race change option from the gem store.

I’d be willing to pay 1200-1800 gems for it. Also, I don’t care about a race change reseting my storyline if that is Anet’s only problem with implementing it – it sure beats re-rolling a character with ascended gear and all that!

I mean it’s a suggestion. Is it urgent? no. Is it worth rerolling a character just to have a different look or different racials? For me that would be a no too. People are just saying they would welcome a purchasable race change and spend money to do it.

People are also saying that there aren’t any cons to allowing it. It’s more money in Anet’s pocket and the people who want the race change probably wouldn’t care about the story being auto-converted to another story of another race.

If they coded it, then I think it would be beneficial to everyone. If you’re that much of an RPer to where you would be concerned about it…..then don’t purchase it if they make it available.

MIND

BLOWN!!!