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Posted by: Rama.6439

Rama.6439

I recently read a post about a player banned for swearing, I didn’t like this as I tend to swear a lot, and then I remembered, hey, there’s a profanity filter in game, not our fault if they don’t use it, and in my opinion, let them go cry elsewhere.

So, my suggestion is to the players, if you don’t like bad language, use what Anet has given you and quit crying.

And if you have something negative to say about this, I really don’t care, I’m just making a suggestion. :P

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Posted by: Trevorlong.4628

Trevorlong.4628

That is kind of worrisome, as I do swear a bit myself, but the game isn’t rated M, so we are still bound by that and the EULA, if there is anything regarding profanity in the EULA that is.

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Posted by: Fror.2163

Fror.2163

So, my suggestion is to the players, if you don’t like bad language, use what Anet has given you and quit crying.

So, my suggestion to you, if you don’t like not swearing, stand by the T-rated game Anet has given you and quit swearing.

Frór (yes, with the accent!)

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Posted by: Llyren.3904

Llyren.3904

The filter is not a license to swear.
/shrug
You where warned when you signed on the first time.

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Posted by: blakkrskyrr.7413

blakkrskyrr.7413

guess I gotta stop swearing then :/

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Posted by: ShiningSquirrel.3751

ShiningSquirrel.3751

The filter has many issues and the filter is also not a license to swear.
If you swear and are reported, you will get suspended. Swear and get reported again, you will get suspended for a longer period. Continue to violate the TOS and you will lose your account. Your choice, but if you feel you MUST swear in an online game then there are other issues involved.

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Posted by: JubeiTM.5763

JubeiTM.5763

I recently read a post about a player banned for swearing, I didn’t like this as I tend to swear a lot, and then I remembered, hey, there’s a profanity filter in game, not our fault if they don’t use it, and in my opinion, let them go cry elsewhere.

So, my suggestion is to the players, if you don’t like bad language, use what Anet has given you and quit crying.

And if you have something negative to say about this, I really don’t care, I’m just making a suggestion. :P

Understand how censorship works. Let’s say the game uses “kitten” for a bad word. What is the use of the censor when you get statements like these:

I think your mother is a stupid ************ ******* ********
White/Black/Asian people are ************ ******

You see what I mean? Most certainly you won’t get banned for normal swearing such as: kitten Y*u, or Go To H*ll. I also swear but I don’t directly offend people I play with. know that you have a part on creating the content.

The players that received bans not only directly insulted other players but were also offending and racist.

Be nice and be well

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Posted by: DarkSider.1079

DarkSider.1079

It really depends on the situation probably, such as if you just got jumped by a bunch of enemy players you might say “oh s***” but if you direct the curse at someone such as cursing them out or using it in a more profane way, I think that’s why the line is crossed and the ban hammer comes about.

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Posted by: Elochai.1280

Elochai.1280

Well you know some people can’t handle some words. If someone is harassing you too much fine but if you can’t handle a word, figure out how to. Words can’t hurt you.

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Posted by: Mentalhead.5721

Mentalhead.5721

I don’t mind if someone swears, sure, some people might not like it, but this is T rated game, so harsh language is somewhat expected.

I personally don’t have a problem if somebody swears (getting wiped in a dungeon can be frustrating), as along as that person isn’t insulting other players and calling them names.

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Posted by: Mimir.4690

Mimir.4690

ANet is actually, believe it or not, pretty lenient when it comes to in-game swearing in the map chat (they do not follow whispers, parties, guilds, etc. unless you are reported). You can, with some sense of responsibility and control, get away with swearing in the map chat if those swear words are not directed at someone else. If you say F You! then you are verbally attacking someone. If you are surprised and are suddenly killed by some players in WvW and say, “Oh snap!” then they likely will not suspend you for it.

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Posted by: ShiningSquirrel.3751

ShiningSquirrel.3751

ANet is actually, believe it or not, pretty lenient when it comes to in-game swearing in the map chat (they do not follow whispers, parties, guilds, etc. unless you are reported). You can, with some sense of responsibility and control, get away with swearing in the map chat if those swear words are not directed at someone else. If you say F You! then you are verbally attacking someone. If you are surprised and are suddenly killed by some players in WvW and say, “Oh snap!” then they likely will not suspend you for it.

That is actually not true. It does not matter if you direct it at another player or not.
All that matters is if another player reports you for it. If you type it in to map chat and someone else can read it, you can be reported. If your reported, there is a good chance you will be suspended, depending on what was said.

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Posted by: Wolfheart.1938

Wolfheart.1938

The presence of a filter doesn’t justify swearing.

“We have no first-person view because stupid people would lock into it”
“You can’t have more than 10 HS decks because that would confuse people”
“30 fps is more cinematic”

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

The filter has many issues and the filter is also not a license to swear.
If you swear and are reported, you will get suspended. Swear and get reported again, you will get suspended for a longer period. Continue to violate the TOS and you will lose your account. Your choice, but if you feel you MUST swear in an online game then there are other issues involved.

See this is the reason this game is so bitter to most people, the only community left in the game are people like you that run around reporting people 24/7 in Divinities Reach and never actually play the game. You guys get some kind of kick out of getting people suspended because you know Arenanet will ban any and everyone that gets reported even if it is for no reason at all.

EDIT: I also wanted to comment that this is one of the reasons WoW is far more successful than this game, you don’t see Blizzard running around banning thousands of accounts for saying 1 swear word. And people wonder why Arenanet will NEVER be NEARLY as successful as Blizzard, that is one of the reasons. And people that say “WoW is bad!!!”: that is irrelevant, go look at the sales charts to see which game is more successful. Guild Wars 2 went crazy in celebrating that they had sold 3 million copies, well congratulations Blizzard has sold more than 76.2 million copies and that is not even including their monthly subscription income. It is quite obvious which game is more successful, and I think it’s mostly because of the companies involved. Like I said, Arenanet does not care a single bit about any of their customers, they have your money, they will ban your account even for a simple 3 second laugh.

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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

Swearing isn’t the problem. Personal abuse is the problem. So saying “Oh kitten” when you jump off a cliff by mistake probably won’t get you banned, saying “kitten you” to someone who wouldn’t let you join their fractals group probably will.

In summary: it is possible to swear without engaging in personal abuse, and it is possible to engage in personal abuse without swearing (racism, homophobia etc.).

This entire point has absolutely nothing to do with Free Speech being infringed upon, because you all agreed to obey the rules that they set up. This is not the United States, nor is this Canada, or Cuba, or Russia, or any other specific geographical location on the globe.

The first half of that quote is true, the second is not. Online interactions are indeed governed by the law of nation states – usually, but not always, the law of the country where the server is located. So if the server someone is interacting with is in the United States, then the interaction is (usually) covered by US law. In fact, the Terms of Service specifically opts for Austin, Texas as its governing jurisdiction in the choice of law clause.

The fact that (as you correctly point out) free speech laws both in the USA and in Europe (I’m less familiar with other places) do not apply to private premises is an entirely separate issue: private premises are excluded from those laws by the terms of those laws (US constitution: “Congress shall make no law restricting…”, ECHR: “The High Contracting Parties [national governments] shall secure…”).

you aren’t protected under free speech same goes for other private places and schools even. You can’t just say whatever you want where ever you want.

Private schools certainly. However most schools are operated by the government and are therefore covered by the free speech guarantees on both sides of the Atlantic. Of course school administrators get fairly substantial discretion so that schools can actually function, but that is leeway within the free speech protections rather than non-application of free speech protections.

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Posted by: NoodllZ.8376

NoodllZ.8376

Why should we stop swearing? There is a filter in your options, if you don’t like cursing then set it to high. People reporting for cursing need to check their settings. Straight forward verbal abuse is another issue though.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

The filter has many issues and the filter is also not a license to swear.
If you swear and are reported, you will get suspended. Swear and get reported again, you will get suspended for a longer period. Continue to violate the TOS and you will lose your account. Your choice, but if you feel you MUST swear in an online game then there are other issues involved.

See this is the reason this game is so bitter to most people, the only community left in the game are people like you that run around reporting people 24/7 in Divinities Reach and never actually play the game. You guys get some kind of kick out of getting people suspended because you know Arenanet will ban any and everyone that gets reported even if it is for no reason at all.

EDIT: I also wanted to comment that this is one of the reasons WoW is far more successful than this game, you don’t see Blizzard running around banning thousands of accounts for saying 1 swear word. And people wonder why Arenanet will NEVER be NEARLY as successful as Blizzard, that is one of the reasons. And people that say “WoW is bad!!!”: that is irrelevant, go look at the sales charts to see which game is more successful. Guild Wars 2 went crazy in celebrating that they had sold 3 million copies, well congratulations Blizzard has sold more than 76.2 million copies and that is not even including their monthly subscription income. It is quite obvious which game is more successful, and I think it’s mostly because of the companies involved. Like I said, Arenanet does not care a single bit about any of their customers, they have your money, they will ban your account even for a simple 3 second laugh.

Arenanet doesn’t ban people for saying 1 word either. I have a friend who has a problem with swearing in games. He literally lost 2 accounts with Blizzard because he kept on being banned because of using profanity despite the warnings and suspensions he got. He also has been given warning and suspensions from Arenanet for using profantity, but has not lost his account, where as with Blizzard he would have already lost his account for how many warning and suspensions he has already been given by Arenanet.

Also, there are many reasons why Blizzard has sold so many games, and lots of it has to do with timing, and their already known branding of many many years. Industry experts in the past have stated that WoW is an anomaly, and the chances of that happening again is pretty much close to zero.

Anyways, highly doubt these people are being banned are being banned for using 1 profanity word 1 time. They got many warnings and suspensions before they got their account banned, but of course they will not admit that, they will just say “it was one time”.

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

they are not being permanently banned for saying 1 word, they are not even being suspended for 1 word. They are being suspended after multiple warnings.

Also, I have been working in customer service since I was 16 years old, and I am 35 years old, working with customers in their homes.

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

they are not being permanently banned for saying 1 word, they are not even being suspended for 1 word. They are being suspended after multiple warnings.

Also, I have been working in customer service since I was 16 years old, and I am 35 years old, working with customers in their homes.

Actually I was suspended for 3 days for saying 1 word(a swear word), and I was not given a warning. I asked about warnings to support and they said they do not issue warnings.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

they are not being permanently banned for saying 1 word, they are not even being suspended for 1 word. They are being suspended after multiple warnings.

Also, I have been working in customer service since I was 16 years old, and I am 35 years old, working with customers in their homes.

Actually I was suspended for 3 days for saying 1 word(a swear word), and I was not given a warning. I asked about warnings to support and they said they do not issue warnings.

You’ll have to excuse me for not believing you. For one, you stated Arenanet permanently banned for 1 word, yet here you are now stating that you were suspened for 3 days for 1 word. Which is it? Suspened or permanently banned? Also, like I said I have a friend who has a problem with profantity and lost 2 account in WoW because of profanity, and has not lost his account for profantity with Guild Wars 2, but only had been given warning before he was eventually suspended multiple times.

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

they are not being permanently banned for saying 1 word, they are not even being suspended for 1 word. They are being suspended after multiple warnings.

Also, I have been working in customer service since I was 16 years old, and I am 35 years old, working with customers in their homes.

Actually I was suspended for 3 days for saying 1 word(a swear word), and I was not given a warning. I asked about warnings to support and they said they do not issue warnings.

You’ll have to excuse me for not believing you. For one, you stated Arenanet permanently banned for 1 word, yet here you are now stating that you were suspened for 3 days for 1 word. Which is it? Suspened or permanently banned? Also, like I said I have a friend who has a problem with profantity and lost 2 account in WoW because of profanity, and has not lost his account for profantity with Guild Wars 2, but only had been given warning before he was eventually suspended multiple times.

I never said “I” got permanently banned for 1 word, I was saying that other people did. Please learn to comprehend words before responding with insults. And it is a fact that I was never given a warning before being suspended for 3 days. You can look it up on the forums, there are literally thousands of cases of this happening everywhere with Arenanet.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

And yes, if you choose to not abide by the rules of the property owner, you also choose the consequences. Paying money to be on some one else’s property does not give you the right to disobey their rules, especially when you agree to those rules before entering.

When I was a teenager, my friends and I were kicked out of amusement parks for breaking rules, and guess what? We never got our money back ,and the amusement parks were not under any obligation ethically or legally to give us a refund.

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

And yes, if you choose to not abide by the rules of the property owner, you also choose the consequences. Paying money to be on some one else’s property does not give you the right to disobey their rules, especially when you agree to those rules before entering.

When I was a teenager, my friends and I were kicked out of amusement parks for breaking rules, and guess what? We never got our money back ,and the amusement parks were not under any obligation ethically or legally to give us a refund.

Lol, you aren’t very good at comprehending words at all. I will try and make it as simple as I can but I doubt you will understand: The point is Arenanet does not care for their customers, In fact I think they enjoy trying to frustrate them as when other more professional companies treat their customers well. It’s a matter of professionalism. For example: On this game if you put in a ticket about some misc. problem, you’ll get a response 2-8 weeks later that is just an automated response that has nothing to do with what you were talking about. If you put a ticket in on WoW you get a response within a couple hours and it’s a real person that is there to help you and is generally caring about your frustration. Arenanet does not care for customers, and to me that is unprofessional. I even heard of this case on gw2 where this entire guild reported this 1 guy for saying “hello” and he was banned permanently, because “hello” is a reference to “hell” which is therefore racist against religion(according to arenanet). You can look it up if you don’t believe me but it is a real case, and if Arenanet really cared for that customer they would have said “guys.. this is ridiculous come on that guy paid us for this game.” But instead they just ban anyone that gets a good number of reports which any group of friends can do to troll someone.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

they are not being permanently banned for saying 1 word, they are not even being suspended for 1 word. They are being suspended after multiple warnings.

Also, I have been working in customer service since I was 16 years old, and I am 35 years old, working with customers in their homes.

Actually I was suspended for 3 days for saying 1 word(a swear word), and I was not given a warning. I asked about warnings to support and they said they do not issue warnings.

You’ll have to excuse me for not believing you. For one, you stated Arenanet permanently banned for 1 word, yet here you are now stating that you were suspened for 3 days for 1 word. Which is it? Suspened or permanently banned? Also, like I said I have a friend who has a problem with profantity and lost 2 account in WoW because of profanity, and has not lost his account for profantity with Guild Wars 2, but only had been given warning before he was eventually suspended multiple times.

I never said “I” got permanently banned for 1 word, I was saying that other people did. Please learn to comprehend words before responding with insults. And it is a fact that I was never given a warning before being suspended for 3 days. You can look it up on the forums, there are literally thousands of cases of this happening everywhere with Arenanet.

You said that Arenanet permanently bans for using 1 word, yet you use 1 word and claim to be only suspended? And I have been on this forum since the beginning, and Thousands of cases is a very gross exaggeration. Using gross exaggerations doesn’t make your point even more stronger, it weakens it and makes you say anything really suspect. Arenenet themselves have stated before on this forum that they do not take bans and Suspensions lightly. Also will not trust what some forum users say, but I guarantee you that if someone was suspended or even banned, it was for a lot more then just 1 word, going by the personal experience of a friend of mine. Of course I don’t expect you to believe it, because again I am just some forum poster and could be lying.

But common sense will dictate that Arenanet will not suspend or ban someone for using 1 profanity word, there is much more then what other players are not reporting to us.

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

Honestly people should be able to say whatever they want, if people are intimidated by words on a screen they should not be using the internet.

People should be allowed to enforce what ever rules they want for their own property. If people can’t abide by someone else’s rules, perhaps they should stay off that property.

So you are trying to justify people getting permanently banned without prior warning for saying 1 swear word after they just paid 60 dollars for this game? Lol. You’ve obviously never worked a real job that involved customers before.

they are not being permanently banned for saying 1 word, they are not even being suspended for 1 word. They are being suspended after multiple warnings.

Also, I have been working in customer service since I was 16 years old, and I am 35 years old, working with customers in their homes.

Actually I was suspended for 3 days for saying 1 word(a swear word), and I was not given a warning. I asked about warnings to support and they said they do not issue warnings.

You’ll have to excuse me for not believing you. For one, you stated Arenanet permanently banned for 1 word, yet here you are now stating that you were suspened for 3 days for 1 word. Which is it? Suspened or permanently banned? Also, like I said I have a friend who has a problem with profantity and lost 2 account in WoW because of profanity, and has not lost his account for profantity with Guild Wars 2, but only had been given warning before he was eventually suspended multiple times.

I never said “I” got permanently banned for 1 word, I was saying that other people did. Please learn to comprehend words before responding with insults. And it is a fact that I was never given a warning before being suspended for 3 days. You can look it up on the forums, there are literally thousands of cases of this happening everywhere with Arenanet.

You said that Arenanet permanently bans for using 1 word, yet you use 1 word and claim to be only suspended? And I have been on this forum since the beginning, and Thousands of cases is a very gross exaggeration. Using gross exaggerations doesn’t make your point even more stronger, it weakens it and makes you say anything really suspect. Arenenet themselves have stated before on this forum that they do not take bans and Suspensions lightly. Also will not trust what some forum users say, but I guarantee you that if someone was suspended or even banned, it was for a lot more then just 1 word, going by the personal experience of a friend of mine. Of course I don’t expect you to believe it, because again I am just some forum poster and could be lying.

But common sense will dictate that Arenanet will not suspend or ban someone for using 1 profanity word, there is much more then what other players are not reporting to us.

Please read what I posted before, I tried to make it as simple as possible so you could comprehend it.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

And yes, if you choose to not abide by the rules of the property owner, you also choose the consequences. Paying money to be on some one else’s property does not give you the right to disobey their rules, especially when you agree to those rules before entering.

When I was a teenager, my friends and I were kicked out of amusement parks for breaking rules, and guess what? We never got our money back ,and the amusement parks were not under any obligation ethically or legally to give us a refund.

Lol, you aren’t very good at comprehending words at all. I will try and make it as simple as I can but I doubt you will understand: The point is Arenanet does not care for their customers, In fact I think they enjoy trying to frustrate them as when other more professional companies treat their customers well. It’s a matter of professionalism. For example: On this game if you put in a ticket about some misc. problem, you’ll get a response 2-8 weeks later that is just an automated response that has nothing to do with what you were talking about. If you put a ticket in on WoW you get a response within a couple hours and it’s a real person that is there to help you and is generally caring about your frustration. Arenanet does not care for customers, and to me that is unprofessional. I even heard of this case on gw2 where this entire guild reported this 1 guy for saying “hello” and he was banned permanently, because “hello” is a reference to “hell” which is therefore racist against religion(according to arenanet). You can look it up if you don’t believe me but it is a real case, and if Arenanet really cared for that customer they would have said “guys.. this is ridiculous come on that guy paid us for this game.” But instead they just ban anyone that gets a good number of reports which any group of friends can do to troll someone.

again, reports with no actual proof. Seriously? Saying Hello? Seriously you are going to believe that? No wonder you feel the way you feel, if you believe beyond redicolous stories like that. I have some ocean front property in Arizona that I will sell to you for $200 /roll eyes..

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Also in this rededit, Arenanet talks about suspensions, and later when someone asks if they do bans/suspension based on the number of reports, Arenanet says that it is false, that the number of reports has no effect on the outcome. Want to know why the story about the guy saying Hello is not true? Because they would have checked the chat logs, they do not just take the words of the reporters, they do in fact look for the proof, and when they see someone saying Hello and a bunch of people report that, Arenanet will see that person said hello and will not ban the person. That Hello story is completely false.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/yxx3m/suspensions_for_offensive_names_and_inappropriate/

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

The “suspension for 3 days” IS your warning. When you are suspended/banned from the game, it is usually accompanied with a reason as to why you were suspended/banned. First offences usually result in 1 – 3 days of suspension. Subsequent offences usually go 3 days to a week. I don’t know where ANet draws the line before a permanent ban, but I’m guessing they probably operate on a “3 strikes” policy if the guilty party is particularly abusive.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Would like to point out a time where Arenanet stated why someone was banned, and that it was not taken so lightly. And that they were banned more then once, and never for just 1 word. So OP, just follow the rules, it isn’t hard, but you will not get banned permanently if you do break them, the guy below in the quote got suspended 4 times, and he even linked to porn sites.

Gayle Gray

First, you were suspended not just this week, but in November, December, and twice in March.
You demand details. Here you go:
You chose a name disallowed by the Naming Policy.
You used offensive language. Multiple times.
You posted a link to an pornography website.
You propositioned players asking for things not discussed in polite conversation.
You were reported multiple times, and were suspended — not for “no reason” or for one of “the smallest reasons” — but because you deserved it.
There’s your mature, professional, and competent response. Now, consider the suspensions and the reasons for them (which I believe you well knew before demanding details). Reconsider your in-game (and on-forum) behavior. And conduct yourself more prudently in the future.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Proof-of-offense

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Posted by: Brewergamer.8357

Brewergamer.8357

The “suspension for 3 days” IS your warning. When you are suspended/banned from the game, it is usually accompanied with a reason as to why you were suspended/banned. First offences usually result in 1 – 3 days of suspension. Subsequent offences usually go 3 days to a week. I don’t know where ANet draws the line before a permanent ban, but I’m guessing they probably operate on a “3 strikes” policy if the guilty party is particularly abusive.

Well see.. most people expect to have at least 1 warning before any kind of suspension.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

The “suspension for 3 days” IS your warning. When you are suspended/banned from the game, it is usually accompanied with a reason as to why you were suspended/banned. First offences usually result in 1 – 3 days of suspension. Subsequent offences usually go 3 days to a week. I don’t know where ANet draws the line before a permanent ban, but I’m guessing they probably operate on a “3 strikes” policy if the guilty party is particularly abusive.

Well see.. most people expect to have at least 1 warning before any kind of suspension.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

This is your warning.

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Posted by: Llyren.3904

Llyren.3904

The “suspension for 3 days” IS your warning. When you are suspended/banned from the game, it is usually accompanied with a reason as to why you were suspended/banned. First offences usually result in 1 – 3 days of suspension. Subsequent offences usually go 3 days to a week. I don’t know where ANet draws the line before a permanent ban, but I’m guessing they probably operate on a “3 strikes” policy if the guilty party is particularly abusive.

Well see.. most people expect to have at least 1 warning before any kind of suspension.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

This is your warning.

That is indeed the warning.

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Posted by: Woljnir.7810

Woljnir.7810

Terms and Conditions folks. Anet could put in there “If we wake up and feel like banning someone, it might be you” and if you agree to terms and conditions, you can’t complain about one kitten thing. This game is Anet’s property, they can set any rules they want. Talk of freedom of speech and the Constitution is just ridiculous, but someone always brings it up.

That being said, because there is a filter yes it is not a license to say whatever you want, I think Anet could at least give notice someone was offended and to watch your mouth. I tend to watch my language around PUGs because in today’s world you can’t hardly say anything without offending someone. Keep it to friends/guildies. If we posted our conversations/guild runs on these boards, it would basically come out as:

“That kitten kitten just kitten my kitten. I was about to kitten that when the kitten kittened my kitten. Kitten kitten you and I need to kitten that kitten’s kitten.”

xD.

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Posted by: Jack of Tears.9458

Jack of Tears.9458

Just make up swear words and use those, or use really old ones what no one gets, that’s what I do. I got:

Bugger
Badger
Blustering Air Bisquit
Spades
Balthazar’s Buttox
Arsemonger
Lyssa’s Eyes
Barmy
Barking Mad
Blighter
Half wit
Scab
Stumblebum
Yob
Grenth’s Galloping Gonads
And many more.

Sometimes nothin’ hits the spot like a good curse, but it doesn’t have to be something people will complain about. More interesting insults and curses are more fun.


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Posted by: stale.9785

stale.9785

I had to face palm when someone brought up the constitution. A developer can choose to do what they want about what people say you aren’t protected under free speech same goes for other private places and schools even. You can’t just say whatever you want where ever you want.

However, the ToS in a lot of games has a lot of legal bs that actually wouldn’t stand up in court. Referencing the ToS as a binding contract or rules you absolutely must follow is idiotic. If they really want to they can ban or suspend you for what you say. Is it stupid? Yes. Is it right? Depends on your stance. Many would say legally and ethically no. Technically they are taking away access to something that you paid for. There are some games that are far worse than GW2 and most people I know refuse to even chat in them because of their stupid policies. They are probably much worse at giving you an infraction on forums than in game chat. I’m some cases if you even border on coming remotely close to hurting someones poor little feelings they’ll give you an infraction or ban you.

I rather people speak their mind instead of sugar coating it and pretending to be all nice.

I would like to point out that the only times the ToS of a product haven’t stood up in court were in cases of subscription type systems, where the people who went to court got a partial refund for the subscription. In every other incident I can find, the end effect was “you signed a contract, if you refuse to abide by it, you may not use the service”.

This is especially true in a system like this, where your $60 bought you access to a product – not ownership, but access. (anyone ever read the lawsuits over the XBoxLive bannings? Microsoft won each one, because those were the terms that were agreed to – payment for access, not ownership – which can and will be denied at any time.)

OT – if you’re too immature to engage your brain before spouting something in chat that millions of people with differing values from you are going to read, you deserve a break from the game, at the very least. The other consumers of the game (the ones that all the posts seem to forget about) have paid for an experience free of kittens like you.

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

Astral Projections.7320

And yes, if you choose to not abide by the rules of the property owner, you also choose the consequences. Paying money to be on some one else’s property does not give you the right to disobey their rules, especially when you agree to those rules before entering.

When I was a teenager, my friends and I were kicked out of amusement parks for breaking rules, and guess what? We never got our money back ,and the amusement parks were not under any obligation ethically or legally to give us a refund.

Lol, you aren’t very good at comprehending words at all. I will try and make it as simple as I can but I doubt you will understand: The point is Arenanet does not care for their customers, In fact I think they enjoy trying to frustrate them as when other more professional companies treat their customers well. It’s a matter of professionalism. For example: On this game if you put in a ticket about some misc. problem, you’ll get a response 2-8 weeks later that is just an automated response that has nothing to do with what you were talking about. If you put a ticket in on WoW you get a response within a couple hours and it’s a real person that is there to help you and is generally caring about your frustration. Arenanet does not care for customers, and to me that is unprofessional. I even heard of this case on gw2 where this entire guild reported this 1 guy for saying “hello” and he was banned permanently, because “hello” is a reference to “hell” which is therefore racist against religion(according to arenanet). You can look it up if you don’t believe me but it is a real case, and if Arenanet really cared for that customer they would have said “guys.. this is ridiculous come on that guy paid us for this game.” But instead they just ban anyone that gets a good number of reports which any group of friends can do to troll someone.

You said to look up where the guy was suspended for saying hello, as that was a reference to hell and therefor racist against religion.

For one thing, the word has nothing to do with hell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello
Etymology
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, hello is an alteration of hallo, hollo,5 which came from Old High German “halâ, holâ, emphatic imperative of halôn, holôn to fetch, used especially in hailing a ferryman.”6 It also connects the development of hello to the influence of an earlier form, holla, whose origin is in the French holà (roughly, ‘whoa there!’, from French là ‘there’).7 As in addition to hello, halloo,8 hallo, hollo, hullo and (rarely) hillo also exist as variants or related words, the word can be spelt using any of all five vowels.

The second thing, it did not come up on a google search. The guy was lying to you.

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Posted by: Jack of Tears.9458

Jack of Tears.9458

I even heard of this case on gw2 where this entire guild reported this 1 guy for saying “hello” and he was banned permanently, because “hello” is a reference to “hell” which is therefore racist against religion(according to arenanet). You can look it up if you don’t believe me but it is a real case, and if Arenanet really cared for that customer they would have said “guys.. this is ridiculous come on that guy paid us for this game.” .

I can pretty much guarantee you this did not happen. This is an obvious lie started to make Anet look bad.


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Posted by: Carzor Stelatis.9435

Carzor Stelatis.9435

Terms and Conditions folks. Anet could put in there “If we wake up and feel like banning someone, it might be you” and if you agree to terms and conditions, you can’t complain about one kitten thing. This game is Anet’s property, they can set any rules they want.

Not quite. There are Unfair Terms in Consumer Contract Regulations in the EU, and probably similar laws in some US jurisdictions. While it’s true that they are not covered by ‘free speech’ laws (which restrict governments, not private individuals or corporations), it isn’t quite true that “they can set any rules they want”.

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

Astral Projections.7320

I even heard of this case on gw2 where this entire guild reported this 1 guy for saying “hello” and he was banned permanently, because “hello” is a reference to “hell” which is therefore racist against religion(according to arenanet). You can look it up if you don’t believe me but it is a real case, and if Arenanet really cared for that customer they would have said “guys.. this is ridiculous come on that guy paid us for this game.” .

I can pretty much guarantee you this did not happen. This is an obvious lie started to make Anet look bad.

The story doesn’t make logical sense. To believe it, a person would have to believe that a company would
1) redefine, randomly, some common innocent word and make it a permanent ban for saying it
2) the company was willing to break their own rules and procedures on suspensions and bannings. That is, they would simply ban because of reports irregardless of whether or not the reports are true.
3) the company was willing to go against its own financial interests in doing these things.
It was willing to ban a customer for no reason. Someone who bought the game, was playing it and hopefully was continuing to fund the game by buying gems. And who if actually banned for such a frivolous reason, could sue or otherwise cause bad publicity.

The alternative explanation is the guy repeatedly used abusive or racist language, was banned and then lied about it. And anyone who would use profane language to the point that they get banned in a video game, yes, they would lie about it. Brewergamer is believing a lie that any logical thought would have told him was untrue.

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Posted by: Jack of Tears.9458

Jack of Tears.9458

You said to look up where the guy was suspended for saying hello, as that was a reference to hell and therefor racist against religion.

For one thing, the word has nothing to do with hell.

And you’d have to be a pretty big dunce to make that mistake – really. If anything, I suspect a situation like he described would result in Anet taking a close look at that Guild, seeing as they were obviously trying to get someone kicked. (but I suspect this entire story from start to finish was a lie)


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Posted by: Mimir.4690

Mimir.4690

ANet is actually, believe it or not, pretty lenient when it comes to in-game swearing in the map chat (they do not follow whispers, parties, guilds, etc. unless you are reported). You can, with some sense of responsibility and control, get away with swearing in the map chat if those swear words are not directed at someone else. If you say F You! then you are verbally attacking someone. If you are surprised and are suddenly killed by some players in WvW and say, “Oh snap!” then they likely will not suspend you for it.

That is actually not true. It does not matter if you direct it at another player or not.
All that matters is if another player reports you for it. If you type it in to map chat and someone else can read it, you can be reported. If your reported, there is a good chance you will be suspended, depending on what was said.

There are conflicting responses to this, then. Perhaps this should be made more clear, because some players here saying that you can get away with a word or two as long as it is not directed, while others are saying that one curse word can give you the 3 day warning.

If you can get suspended for saying a curse word that is not directed at anyone, and implies no racism or discrimination, then regardless of what the ToS says, that seems absolutely extreme. I myself don’t cuss in game, but I don’t care if anyone else says “Oh kitten!” because they fell off of a cliff and died, or was dominated by a zerg, etc. That’s such a silly thing to be suspended over.

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Posted by: vove.2768

vove.2768

That is kind of worrisome, as I do swear a bit myself, but the game isn’t rated M, so we are still bound by that and the EULA, if there is anything regarding profanity in the EULA that is.

actually the game is rated M and there is a warning on the box because of “bad language”. if someone got banned for swearing it was because of flaming others, not swearing as you talk.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

That is kind of worrisome, as I do swear a bit myself, but the game isn’t rated M, so we are still bound by that and the EULA, if there is anything regarding profanity in the EULA that is.

actually the game is rated M and there is a warning on the box because of “bad language”. if someone got banned for swearing it was because of flaming others, not swearing as you talk.

Actually it is rated T in the US. Not sure about other places in the world, but in the US it is rated T for Teen.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

ANet is actually, believe it or not, pretty lenient when it comes to in-game swearing in the map chat (they do not follow whispers, parties, guilds, etc. unless you are reported). You can, with some sense of responsibility and control, get away with swearing in the map chat if those swear words are not directed at someone else. If you say F You! then you are verbally attacking someone. If you are surprised and are suddenly killed by some players in WvW and say, “Oh snap!” then they likely will not suspend you for it.

That is actually not true. It does not matter if you direct it at another player or not.
All that matters is if another player reports you for it. If you type it in to map chat and someone else can read it, you can be reported. If your reported, there is a good chance you will be suspended, depending on what was said.

There are conflicting responses to this, then. Perhaps this should be made more clear, because some players here saying that you can get away with a word or two as long as it is not directed, while others are saying that one curse word can give you the 3 day warning.

If you can get suspended for saying a curse word that is not directed at anyone, and implies no racism or discrimination, then regardless of what the ToS says, that seems absolutely extreme. I myself don’t cuss in game, but I don’t care if anyone else says “Oh kitten!” because they fell off of a cliff and died, or was dominated by a zerg, etc. That’s such a silly thing to be suspended over.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/yxx3m/suspensions_for_offensive_names_and_inappropriate/

you’ll have to look through that thread to really see it, but Arenanet responded to someone stating they are gamers as well and understand a “slip of the tounge” and chances are they will not suspend for that.

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Posted by: Theftwind.8976

Theftwind.8976

There is a big difference between swearing in real life versus swearing in a computer game. People that are prone to use foul language will involuntarily blurt out offensive words when angered, surprised, etc. and curse aloud at their monitor but to swear in a game with a typed chat interface one has to make a conscious effort to do so. The involuntary part is no longer there.

The filter that is in the game is in every mmo not because the creator of that mmo allows people to curse but because they have to have that protection in place for when people do curse. If for example someone was the object of abusive language they could not hold the company responsible for being subjected to it as the filter is there for them to use. It does not imply or grant anyone the license to use that objective language. It has nothing to do with the constitution.

There is absolutely no reason to swear in an online game and the only excuse I can see would be for those using a voip protocol as you will get the involuntary curse words with voice but it is never involuntary with typed words.

Theftwind (HoD)

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Posted by: Falkor.7932

Falkor.7932

Don’t forget that there are people who try to go around the censor as well, I do believe if you’re breaking up your “f words” so that the censor wont catch them that you should be punished. (this is coming from a pro-swearing point of view, too)

“One time! I slightly blew some of us up one time, and you won’t let it go.”
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Posted by: NinjaEd.3946

NinjaEd.3946

It’s not swearing that gets you banned, as much as it is the context it’s used in. If you call someone a kitten versus saying kitten due to some poor luck you came across, I’m sure they’ll be a lil upset.

Someone in map chat made a nice euphemism about this: chat filter is like a seatbelt. Just because you have the option to wear it, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t.

“I’m waiting for the staff to get off their lunch
break. I feel like they should be back by now..”