Guild Wars 2

I think it would be great if we would get new cultural armor sets (t4 and t5). T3 is simply too cheap and almost everyone is running around with it.
I suggest 750g for a set of T4 and 2000g for a set of T5. It would be a great gold sink. Its a bit silly that the most expensive armor costs 119g for 6 pieces, but the most expensive weapons (one item) cost upto several thousand gold.

Well i would pay more for a noble armor that shines like the ones weared by seraphs in claypool town. The one bought with tokens has war marks.

Also I would pay more if the juggernaut effect on armor would last after weapon switch in combat.

I think it’s a terrible idea, and here’s why: That’s 30 new armor sets (2 tiers, 3 weights, 5 races) that, by intent, most people aren’t going to be able to afford to wear. That is a tremendous amount of time and effort basically going to waste, when they could be put into making more options for everyone, or at least most moderately-dedicated/wealthy players. If new armor is super expensive, prestige hounds are going to flock to it like they will with anything pricey, but if they’re reasonably affordable and attractive, more players are going to take advantage of those options, diversifying looks not just among the super wealthy, but among players more generally.

I don’t mind super expensive weapons, because weapons are easier to make (from an art perspective,) and, occasional gripe about Quip or The Dreamer aside, I rarely hear anyone complain about not having enough choices for weapon skins, even without breaking the bank. It’s much more frequent that I hear people complain that they don’t have enough armor options, at any cost, so if they’re going to introduce more cultural armor, I think letting more people wear it would serve the game better than catering to the super-wealthy exclusively would.

Edit: In case my writing isn’t clear, I think making the new tiers excessively expensive is a terrible idea. I have mixed feelings about more cultural armor, generally: I’d like to see it, and I love giving races a chance to express their cultural identity, but I’m also thinking, “Well, if you’re going to make a new suit, it might be a better return on the investment to invest a little more and make it fit every race…”

Just because its a lot of work doesnt mean its a terrible idea. The only reason Anet is unlikely to do it is because items you can buy for gold doesnt make them any direct profit.
Personally I destroyed my T3 cultural armor, not because I didnt like the look, but because almost every 2nd person with the same race and armor class was wearing it. I dont enjoy looking like every 2nd person.

750G or 2000…. That would be way too expensive! I play quite alot (8000+influence) and I have owned 150g at the same Point as most (Resources not counted)…

Malediktus.9250:

Just because its a lot of work doesnt mean its a terrible idea. The only reason Anet is unlikely to do it is because items you can buy for gold doesnt make them any direct profit.

I think that’s missing the point, to some extent. It’s a lot of work for Anet, which means it costs money. There’s only so much money to go around, so it’s less a case of “Let’s get normal-cost armor AND super prestige armor!” and more a case of “We can have one or the other.” If they’re going to put new armor sets in the game, I’m going to be more disappointed that they cost 750g+ than if they cost, say, on par with current t3 armor, or even cheaper for 56g in the gem store. (I know, people hate gem store armors. Point is, 750g, or a similar price, is going to push it far out of the budget of too many players.)

If there’s an armor set that only the top 1% of players can use, the effort put into developing it mostly only benefits that 1%. If the armor set is available to even the top, say, 20%, that’s directly usable by 20 times as many people. I won’t say there shouldn’t be any prestigious/expensive rewards for players, but I’m wary about rewards being introduced solely with that intent, especially when it’s something as popularly-wanted as new armor skins.

If you’re tired of looking like a lot of people, giving everyone more options is going to help solve that, and not every prestige-chaser is going to immediately gravitate to the new top-tier armor. It’s the similar to how I see so many people in Abyss/Celestial armor with legendary greatswords. Upping the ceiling just gives everyone with the same attitude the same thing to shoot for, again.

Frostfang.5109:

750G or 2000…. That would be way too expensive! I play quite alot (8000+influence) and I have owned 150g at the same Point as most (Resources not counted)…

You must be doing something wrong, I make 150g a week without specifically farming or playing on trading post. Even WvW players can make 30 gold a day. Point is, in a game about cosmetic progression there need to be super prestige cosmetics. Stuff which I can earn in a day or two of farming has no prestige for me.

not enough people would have the gold to buy t4 and t5 to make the effort worth it for anet imo.

Redenaz.8631:

If you’re tired of looking like a lot of people, giving everyone more options is going to help solve that, and not every prestige-chaser is going to immediately gravitate to the new top-tier armor. It’s the similar to how I see so many people in Abyss/Celestial armor with legendary greatswords. Upping the ceiling just gives everyone with the same attitude the same thing to shoot for, again.

^This x a million. Lately, there’s been a ton of threads and posts about people asking for more armor variety. Before they even think about adding in another tier of cultural armor, this game desperately needs new, varied (i.e. not trenchcoats, etc) armor available to more people. Adding in another cultural tier now, regardless of price, isn’t going to help anything.

Malediktus.9250:

I think it would be great if we would get new cultural armor sets (t4 and t5). T3 is simply too cheap and almost everyone is running around with it.
I suggest 750g for a set of T4 and 2000g for a set of T5. It would be a great gold sink. Its a bit silly that the most expensive armor costs 119g for 6 pieces, but the most expensive weapons (one item) cost upto several thousand gold.

Are you crazy (no offense)

Why would they even bother to make such armors is the majority of the player isnt even going to be able to afford it.

Well, T4 and T5 cultural armor better be worth every single gold if they’re going to be pricey.

GrimHero.5140:

Malediktus.9250:

I think it would be great if we would get new cultural armor sets (t4 and t5). T3 is simply too cheap and almost everyone is running around with it.
I suggest 750g for a set of T4 and 2000g for a set of T5. It would be a great gold sink. Its a bit silly that the most expensive armor costs 119g for 6 pieces, but the most expensive weapons (one item) cost upto several thousand gold.

Are you crazy (no offense)

Why would they even bother to make such armors is the majority of the player isnt even going to be able to afford it.

Its like legendaries, most of them are worth about 2k gold on TP, still many people have them. Heck quite a few people I know got several. They should make more super legendaries like Eternity, too.

I am going to try and be constructive in this reply. -

I’m not saying that you need to feel special at the expense of people who have less time, money, patience or skill than you. I am saying that there is plenty of things you could look to if you want to stand out as a character, player or community member.

However, if it really is all about the looks for you…

I’m not saying that you’re lazy. I am saying that if you took the time to create your own look mixing pieces from various armor sets and doing an amazing dye job, you’d be pretty much guaranteed a unique look.

Malediktus.9250:

GrimHero.5140:

Malediktus.9250:

I think it would be great if we would get new cultural armor sets (t4 and t5). T3 is simply too cheap and almost everyone is running around with it.
I suggest 750g for a set of T4 and 2000g for a set of T5. It would be a great gold sink. Its a bit silly that the most expensive armor costs 119g for 6 pieces, but the most expensive weapons (one item) cost upto several thousand gold.

Are you crazy (no offense)

Why would they even bother to make such armors is the majority of the player isnt even going to be able to afford it.

Its like legendaries, most of them are worth about 2k gold on TP, still many people have them. Heck quite a few people I know got several. They should make more super legendaries like Eternity, too.

Im all for legendary armors but imo it shouldnt be cultural armor. It should be something different. Perhaps some cool looking Pact armor. Idk.

Malediktus.9250:

I think it would be great if we would get new cultural armor sets (t4 and t5). T3 is simply too cheap and almost everyone is running around with it.
I suggest 750g for a set of T4 and 2000g for a set of T5. It would be a great gold sink. Its a bit silly that the most expensive armor costs 119g for 6 pieces, but the most expensive weapons (one item) cost upto several thousand gold.

at most it shout be 350 and 600 if you’re going to jump it that high .

Malediktus.9250:

Frostfang.5109:

750G or 2000…. That would be way too expensive! I play quite alot (8000+influence) and I have owned 150g at the same Point as most (Resources not counted)…

You must be doing something wrong, I make 150g a week without specifically farming or playing on trading post. Even WvW players can make 30 gold a day. Point is, in a game about cosmetic progression there need to be super prestige cosmetics. Stuff which I can earn in a day or two of farming has no prestige for me.

What are you doing in WvW that makes you 30g a day?

Malediktus.9250:

Frostfang.5109:

750G or 2000…. That would be way too expensive! I play quite alot (8000+influence) and I have owned 150g at the same Point as most (Resources not counted)…

You must be doing something wrong, I make 150g a week without specifically farming or playing on trading post. Even WvW players can make 30 gold a day. Point is, in a game about cosmetic progression there need to be super prestige cosmetics. Stuff which I can earn in a day or two of farming has no prestige for me.

holy cow, would you please share with us, how you make 150 gold a week ??

I mean 150/7 days, this is 21,5 Gold basically upround each day.

How do you make this money every day, if you don#t use the TP and without farming?

Do you make every day for example all dungeon paths? Because that would be basically the only way how i could think of making so much money every day.

All 3 paths Ascalon = 4,5 Gold
All 3 Paths Caudecus = 3 Gold
All 3 Paths TA = 4 Gold
All 3 Paths CoF = 3 Gold
All 3 Paths HotW = 3 Gold
All 3 Paths CoE = 3 Gold
All 4 Paths of Arah = 10,5 Gold
All 3 Paths of SoE = 3 Gold
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Total : ok, would be already alot more than 21,5, so I guess you do every day a mix of multiple dungeon paths ? lets say the most simple ones:

HotW + CoF (6Gold) + TA = 10 Gold, + Caudecus = 13, + Ascalon = 17,5 + say for example 2 arah paths and we would conme exactly onto 21,5 Gold ..

Is it this, or how do you make the 21,5 Gold a day without any explicit farming …??

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

I am going to try and be constructive in this reply. -

I’m not saying that you need to feel special at the expense of people who have less time, money, patience or skill than you. I am saying that there is plenty of things you could look to if you want to stand out as a character, player or community member.

However, if it really is all about the looks for you…

I’m not saying that you’re lazy. I am saying that if you took the time to create your own look mixing pieces from various armor sets and doing an amazing dye job, you’d be pretty much guaranteed a unique look.

I am already doing this, I built juggernaut and eternity and replaced my t3 heavy norn with phalanx + toxic gloves + shoulders. I think it looks quite niceley if you bug the juggernaut effect to stay with eternity equipped.

Malediktus.9250:

Frostfang.5109:

750G or 2000…. That would be way too expensive! I play quite alot (8000+influence) and I have owned 150g at the same Point as most (Resources not counted)…

You must be doing something wrong, I make 150g a week without specifically farming or playing on trading post. Even WvW players can make 30 gold a day. Point is, in a game about cosmetic progression there need to be super prestige cosmetics. Stuff which I can earn in a day or two of farming has no prestige for me.

Plz tell me your secret

Malediktus.9250:

T3 is simply too cheap

Very funny.

Malediktus.9250:

I suggest 750g for a set of T4 and 2000g for a set of T5.

What!?

Malediktus.9250:

Frostfang.5109:

750G or 2000…. That would be way too expensive! I play quite alot (8000+influence) and I have owned 150g at the same Point as most (Resources not counted)…

You must be doing something wrong, I make 150g a week without specifically farming or playing on trading post. Even WvW players can make 30 gold a day. Point is, in a game about cosmetic progression there need to be super prestige cosmetics. Stuff which I can earn in a day or two of farming has no prestige for me.

Care to explain? Forge aside, I’ve had maybe only 10 exo drops in the 6 or so month I’ve had level 80s. That includes opening roughly 1.2k champion bags. All of those exos being under 5g each also.

I’m lucky if I make 5g a day.

Can we get back to topic now please?
I am not telling my “secrets” other than I am rarely doing more than 3 dungeon pathes a day and tequatl daily.
I am suprised people are opposed to the costs. If there is ever legendary armor it will probably cost 1k or more per piece knowing Anet.

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…You told someone they “must be doing something wrong” because they don’t make nearly as much money as you do, and then you call trade secrets when they ask how?

Ladies and gentlemen, the argument against resources being put into making more ultra-expensive gear.

If you want to make gold in a non boring way find ways yourself. I am not a member of the salvation army.

Make them ascended instead of rare and maybe I would pay for a set like that, if it looked really good.

Malediktus.9250:

If you want to make gold in a non boring way find ways yourself. I am not a member of the salvation army.

The truth is, you don’t make 30g a day from WvW and you know it.

You’re full of kitten and now you’re falling back on ‘secrets’ because you got called out on it.

The truth is it depends on your wvw playstyle. If you spend all day scouting and dolyak protecting it wont happen.

Malediktus.9250:

The truth is it depends on your wvw playstyle. If you spend all day scouting and dolyak protecting it wont happen.

The truth is you still can’t stop lying.

Current rewards from doing wvw:
10 silver for taking a castle
8 for a keep
4 for a tower
2 for a camp

Defense rewards even less. In order to make 1 gold you’d have to take 10 castles a day — not very feasible. 20 towers a day would give you a grand total of… 80 silver. Nice.

Looting bags from zergs won’t get you that 30g a day either, so I don’t know what you’re proposing.

If you want to discuss money making make a seperate thread about it. I am not going further into earning gold on this thread.

I also have “secrets”. I make 100 gold a day and 50 when I WvW. Not to mention the 2 precursors a week from the mystic forge. Anyone can say anything on the forums without any proof. I bet the secret is a job and gems to gold

Stop derailing this thread or I will have a moderator lock it. This thread is about T4/5 cultural armor and not money making techniques.

Might as well lock it anyway. Not exactly much of a discussion going on here except pretty much everyone, including myself, flat out saying no to this idea for a number of different reasons. Well, that and people calling bs on your supposed money-making techniques.

OP was the first person to derail the thread by mentioning making money. Now for some constructive discussion, the resources to make such armor on anets end probably wouldn’t be worth it as they said they don’t make many new armors because of how many different variations and how long it takes to make them. Something that is so prestigious that only about 1% of the players will have should have to do with skill instead of buying gems or endless farming

Malediktus.9250:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

I am going to try and be constructive in this reply. -

I’m not saying that you need to feel special at the expense of people who have less time, money, patience or skill than you. I am saying that there is plenty of things you could look to if you want to stand out as a character, player or community member.

However, if it really is all about the looks for you…

I’m not saying that you’re lazy. I am saying that if you took the time to create your own look mixing pieces from various armor sets and doing an amazing dye job, you’d be pretty much guaranteed a unique look.

I am already doing this, I built juggernaut and eternity and replaced my t3 heavy norn with phalanx + toxic gloves + shoulders. I think it looks quite niceley if you bug the juggernaut effect to stay with eternity equipped.

HAHAHA. OP doesn’t feel special enough→proceeds to buy new CS armor that everyone buys. Uniqueness doesn’t come for getting “the most expensive kitten”, it comes from actually picking something special out from all the armors we have available. Your suggestion won’t make you anymore special, since everyone thinking like you will get it and…oh look, everyone the same again? Better suggest T6…

Zorby.8236:

HAHAHA. OP doesn’t feel special enough->proceeds to buy new CS armor that everyone buys. Uniqueness doesn’t come for getting “the most expensive kitten”, it comes from actually picking something special out from all the armors we have available. Your suggestion won’t make you anymore special, since everyone thinking like you will get it and…oh look, everyone the same again? Better suggest T6…

Oh good, I thought I was the only one that thought that it was ok to run around wearing cheap skins since I see so many people wearing dungeon and racial T3 armor xD
Combining different sets, dyes and weapon skins is an art. There are low lvl blues, greens and yellows that look awesome. I love the Dredge Canary focus, for example, and I never saw anyone else but my mesmer using it. But maybe my taste is bad and I should feel bad lol

I think I know exactly when your money-making “secret” is

But back to the topic, this will never happen. Maybe some time in the future but not soon. Not in 2 or 3 years if anet is even gonna consider it. This is an MMO, at one point you’re not gonna stand out by “looks” anymore. It is a sandbox. You will never be the only one wearing that looks. You’re projecting your identity on a wrong subject, my friend. Think about that and your emotional disturbance will be put at rest.

Edit> On a side note, I think they mentioned about making legend armor. That might satisfy you.

I like the idea of T4 or T5 cultural sets, but I think your prices are a little high.

yeah, it doesn’t take too long to get 100g for example. I almost have 7K achieve points been playing since first beta, so I don’t play that much (job/school/etc). Just to give everyone else a frame of reference here..

I bought a full set of T3 human cultural 2 weeks ago. I got a commander tag on my main today. I went down to under 1G after each purchase. Im sure in another 2 weeks I can be near 100g again. Typically I play for a few hours each day, run 3-5 dungeon paths (the fast ones) and I do the daily every day and the monthly as soon as possible. I salvage every thing I can and sell every mat that’s worth selling on the TP. All of them.

My storage is almost empty, but I’m already done crafting for now so, meh. Most mats are not hard to come by.

Regardless of how you get your money, there is almost always an easier way to get it, and whoever plays more will have more.

This doesnt mean having super-expensive things in game are pointless. It just takes you longer to get it. Where the end-game of this world is all cosmetic, there is nothing forcing you to do this.

That being said, T4 should be more like, 300g and T5 a solid 700g. If I get a super lucky precursor drop I should be forced into a choice. 1 legendary weapon with a whole lot of farming or 1 really awesome, exotic, unique set of armor for one character. This way if you want both you keep playing. (see: cosmetic end-game).

They had just better look awesome or no one is going to get them.

Heta.8629:

OP was the first person to derail the thread by mentioning making money. Now for some constructive discussion, the resources to make such armor on anets end probably wouldn’t be worth it as they said they don’t make many new armors because of how many different variations and how long it takes to make them. Something that is so prestigious that only about 1% of the players will have should have to do with skill instead of buying gems or endless farming

You wouldnt need so many variants with Cultural though since you’re only making it for one race .

Adine.2184:

Heta.8629:

OP was the first person to derail the thread by mentioning making money. Now for some constructive discussion, the resources to make such armor on anets end probably wouldn’t be worth it as they said they don’t make many new armors because of how many different variations and how long it takes to make them. Something that is so prestigious that only about 1% of the players will have should have to do with skill instead of buying gems or endless farming

You wouldnt need so many variants with Cultural though since you’re only making it for one race .

They would have to make one set for each armor type and race per tier. We are talking about two tiers, which means 30 sets. For gender differences, double it and subtract 12 because charr and asura wear the male version of most armor sets even if they are females. 48 sets, then. If charr and asura get separate sets for females, then it jumps to 60 sets. That is even harder than making some sets for humans and adapting them to the other races like they do to sets that are not cultural.

The OP basically wants super-expensive armor so he can show off his wealth to other players. To that, I’ll just say, “Wait for Legendary armor.”

Followed by “Be prepared for other players to get Legendary armor too. There is NO WAY you can be completely unique in terms of looks in GW2 unless you mix and match with strange dye combos.”

I am totally opposed to T4 and T5 cultural seeing that T3 is expensive enough.

750g?? Like… who has time for that? It would probably have to be transmuted to something with better stats anyways— so would totally not even be worth it- especially for an aesthetic point of view.
I do think that new and more ‘cultural’ type armor should be available but not for that price. Especially since light armored norns look silly in T3 no matter how you dye it, most colors are somewhat dull by it as well.
It wouldn’t work especially since it’s vendor sold and not market sold. Weapons are in the hundreds and thousands because of the rarity of the drop – armor vending nope, it’s a different story imo.

If something like that was implemented regardless, the armor itself would literally have to be jaw dropping gorgeous or awesome with 0 complaints.

Gabby.3205:

Zorby.8236:

HAHAHA. OP doesn’t feel special enough->proceeds to buy new CS armor that everyone buys. Uniqueness doesn’t come for getting “the most expensive kitten”, it comes from actually picking something special out from all the armors we have available. Your suggestion won’t make you anymore special, since everyone thinking like you will get it and…oh look, everyone the same again? Better suggest T6…

Oh good, I thought I was the only one that thought that it was ok to run around wearing cheap skins since I see so many people wearing dungeon and racial T3 armor xD
Combining different sets, dyes and weapon skins is an art. There are low lvl blues, greens and yellows that look awesome. I love the Dredge Canary focus, for example, and I never saw anyone else but my mesmer using it. But maybe my taste is bad and I should feel bad lol

No, it is really pretty and im sure you have great taste!
- I never see CM focus (which is the one I use) and I love the little feather detail! c: