Guild Wars 2

If the search feature were working I’d necro a suitable thread. I know Colin said it’s a huge programming effort to make chairs work. Fair enough, I’m not asking for it to happen now or soon. Still, I think this encapsulates the problem:

this is just sad to look at

And they would have gotten away with it too… >.>

I do love that hound. If my ranger had one I’d name him Scooby.

This one’s name is Skuub. He belongs to a guildie not in the cropped part of the pic since she was sitting almost normally on the other sofa.

i can’t believe that old and worse game could this better

Gnat.9405:

this is just sad to look at

what’s sad is that’s one of the more normal situations to occur when people try to sit in chairs. i’ve seen women sitting sideways on the back of the chair, completely defying gravity. or, worse yet, their top leg is normal, while their “bottom” leg is twisted up behind their head at a 90 degree angle.

however, if people (not developers, just players) from the NWN/NWN2 community can make sittable chairs, the whole “it’s too haaaaaard” line loses a lot of its credibility. WoW has them, even TSW has them (though they’re not 100% perfect). it seems less a matter of it being too difficult, and more of a matter of them just not caring. given all of the tools they’ve put in to benefit roleplayers (a few token emotes, and uh……. uh…. um…. yeah, a few token emotes…..), i’d wager that what can be expected will be more of the same.

i’ve since given up hope on roleplayers ever being treated as anything other than second class citizens by the makers of MMOGs. at best, we get some shallow lip service, which time always proves to be lies. every MMOG out there will have someone saying “we care about roleplayers, we really do!” and when it comes time to make good on those words……. nothing. RPers get a handful of (usually ridiculous) emotes, and then told to kitten off for the entire rest of the game’s lifetime. yet…… they always want to jam RP into the MMOG part, to try to sucker roleplayers into forking over cash for a game that doesn’t even want to acknowledge their very existence.

it’s gotten to the point where even games like neverwinter have completely cast off their roleplaying roots. sure, it has the foundry, but it certainly isn’t the first game to release with such a feature. it is, however, the first D&D game i’ve ever seen that has completely removed any and ALL elements of the D&D systems, in favor of the standard MMOG systems.

which brings me to shadowrun online. while it doesn’t have a lot of funding, they’re actually trying to put as much as possible from the tabletop RPG into it. they won’t be able to get nearly as much into it at launch as they’d like, but any money they get from the sales will be going towards putting the rest of it in. so while it may not be perfect at launch, people understand and are expecting that, and know that they can contribute towards the game ending up as an authentic shadowrun experience that will satisfy the roleplayers that the entire genre was founded on.

Yes!! sittable chairs pls! :/

Phantom.8130:

however, if people (not developers, just players) from the NWN/NWN2 community can make sittable chairs, the whole “it’s too haaaaaard” line loses a lot of its credibility.

That’s the one thought that goes through my mind every time sittable chairs are mentioned.

in reguard to roleplaying LOTRO did an amzing job, i’m far from being an expert on the RP part in a mmorpg, i usually don’t really see people doing it, but lotro was amazing anyway, you could smoke pipeleaf and create shape of smoke based on the kind of pipeleaf you were smoking… all for role playing puproses because there is no buff nor anything related to smoking.
and that was just an example, you could change even the facial expression of your toon based on mood.
everything contributed to create an atmosphere that really suited that game, even the minigames were not just thrown there with no attention to the lore.
(ah LOTRO publisher is the same of Duneons and Dragons on line, they care about rp).

although i need to say that while i perfectly understand roleplaying in lotro, i don’t get it in gw2, i wouldn’t even know where to begin with

I can imagine that the real difficult part lies in checking if a chair is occupied, and then making the character move into the right position to sit. In Fall Out 3 they managed to make this work. But personally I would be fine with our character simply snapping onto a chair. It doesn’t have to look fancy.

I hope and pray that sitting in chairs is at the bottom of arenanets priority list. How about they spend their time fixing gamebreaking bugs that have existed for a year and make some QoL changes?

Go sit on a patch of grass.

as long as this won’t happen^^

Amadan.9451:

as long as this won’t happen^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWfPx2VkdWI

^ Nevermind, I want chairs now. Chair karma trains in wvw. Choo Choo!

Amadan.9451:

as long as this won’t happen^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWfPx2VkdWI

But… this is awesome! Now I want this even more!

ahahahahah i know right?

Phantom.8130:

i’ve since given up hope on roleplayers ever being treated as anything other than second class citizens by the makers of MMOGs.

You’ve obviously never played LOTRO, then. They have a huge selection of animated emotes and a healthy selection of sittable chairs. (Not ALL chairs, mind you, but definitely the majority in the Prancing Pony inn, for example.) Plus the music and cosmetic systems.

Not promoting one over the other here. GW2 is awesome. But I do miss my emotes when I play. And housing. And pipeweed. And outfit slots. And being able to sit in chairs. lol

Here’s hoping Anet fixes this, alongside other (IMO) needed additions, like first person view.

Amadan.9451:

as long as this won’t happen^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWfPx2VkdWI

Haha! XD Too bad they fixed that glitch. Those were hilarious.

It seems like such a relatively easy thing to add; I have no clue why they haven’t done so by this point.

If they can’t re-work the chairs, I wonder if they ever considered using a /ledgesit emote as was used in City of Heroes?

https://sites.google.com/site/cohjenny/ledgesit_foot.png

It’s not a perfect solution but it worked pretty well in CoH.

darkace.8925:

It seems like such a relatively easy thing to add; I have no clue why they haven’t done so by this point.

Like so many thing in MMOs, it seems like it would be simple but Colin gives a lists of reasons why it would be time-consuming to fix. They could do it, but it would take away resources from other stuff.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/colin-johanson-talks-dungeons-dragons-and-chairs

i gladly renounce to the next minigame for more emotes, sittable chairs, and skins wardrobe, for the last i could renounce to all minigme in the game

I don’t RP and I want this…It’s 2013, and for a game that prides itself on being so aesthetic it’s kind of unacceptable. (Not that silly Norn ‘staches and clippings help either…but hey that’s for another discussion)

easy solution to this problem, remove chairs.

No in all honesty, I do miss sitting in chairs in an MMO, maybe the future can bring it

I wouldn’t mind properly working chairs. However, what I REALLY want is to know HOW DID THEY DO THAT in the LotRO video?

it was a glitch, fixed now, basically you sat on a chair, right click another player and chose follow option.

Anyone notice that they have an adaptive leg animation when standing on inclined surfaces?

Imagine if they did that for sitting animation aswell? Meaning your character would sit in a different way depending on the surface you were sitting on?

Would require some clever animation programming, but perfectly doable. Just need a client programmer team, which Anet currently doesn’t have determining by the flood of client updates in the last 10 months or so.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

If they can’t re-work the chairs, I wonder if they ever considered using a /ledgesit emote as was used in City of Heroes?

https://sites.google.com/site/cohjenny/ledgesit_foot.png

It’s not a perfect solution but it worked pretty well in CoH.

darkace.8925:

It seems like such a relatively easy thing to add; I have no clue why they haven’t done so by this point.

Like so many thing in MMOs, it seems like it would be simple but Colin gives a lists of reasons why it would be time-consuming to fix. They could do it, but it would take away resources from other stuff.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/colin-johanson-talks-dungeons-dragons-and-chairs

something like that would work for asura, humans and sylvari would sit normally, norn and charr would need to have their thighs rise up to meet where their knees would be. asura could even just sit in the chair with their legs straight, and they could just have everyone’s back just pin to the back of the chair.

however, since it has nothing to do with the living story, they couldn’t care less about it, and will go with the “it’s too complicated due to technical stuff that we won’t bother trying to explain cause you guys wouldn’t understand!!!” line to try to get people to shut up about it. it certainly wouldn’t be the first time.