Guild Wars 2

Those rewards chances are way too good. 25% for an ascended weapon would be too good even for successfully downing him.

Malediktus.9250:

Those rewards chances are way too good. 25% for an ascended weapon would be too good even for successfully downing him.

its a RANDOM ascended weapon chest. Meaning you have a random chance to not get the box you want. Or get the same box twice.

You could get the condition version 10 times and never get the berserker set.

75% heallth shouldnt have a chance of ascended that is to high

50% maybe 20% chance of ascended 25 50%

when killed it should be 100% thats what i think IF they dont nerf him alot

It takes 15 minutes to do it. If you win, you get massive rewards. If you lose, well tough luck, you lost 15 minutes.

What’s the problem?

Kuruptz.4782:

75% heallth shouldnt have a chance of ascended that is to high

50% maybe 20% chance of ascended 25 50%

when killed it should be 100% thats what i think IF they dont nerf him alot

Dude, your thinking to much.

25% Chance to get an ascended weapon for example… but only a 2.5% chance to get the box you want.

Its much lower when you think about it that way.

Those rewards are a bit too high, but I do agree with the idea in general of giving him better rewards. My reward schedule would look more like:

75% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
15% chance at an exotic weapon

50% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
25% chance at an exotic weapon

25% Health
2 guaranteed rares
35% chance at an exotic weapon
4 exotic boxes

0%, You successfully downed him.
6 rares and 2 guaranteed exotic weapons
6 exotic boxes
50% chance for an additional exotic weapon
15% chance for an ascended weapon
7.5% chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Those rewards are a bit too high, but I do agree with the idea in general of giving him better rewards. My reward schedule would look more like:

75% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
15% chance at an exotic weapon

50% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
25% chance at an exotic weapon

25% Health
2 guaranteed rares
35% chance at an exotic weapon
4 exotic boxes

0%, You successfully downed him.
6 rares and 2 guaranteed exotic weapons
6 exotic boxes
50% chance for an additional exotic weapon
15% chance for an ascended weapon
7.5% chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon

You don’t understand

Its not that high, its like 2.5% to get what you want.

It’s not worth the time. The risk is at most a few silver.

Daecollo.9578:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Those rewards are a bit too high, but I do agree with the idea in general of giving him better rewards. My reward schedule would look more like:

75% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
15% chance at an exotic weapon

50% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
25% chance at an exotic weapon

25% Health
2 guaranteed rares
35% chance at an exotic weapon
4 exotic boxes

0%, You successfully downed him.
6 rares and 2 guaranteed exotic weapons
6 exotic boxes
50% chance for an additional exotic weapon
15% chance for an ascended weapon
7.5% chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon

You don’t understand

Its not that high, its like 2.5% to get what you want.

In time, people will be downing him regularly. You don’t want to make ascended crafting invalidated.

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Daecollo.9578:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Those rewards are a bit too high, but I do agree with the idea in general of giving him better rewards. My reward schedule would look more like:

75% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
15% chance at an exotic weapon

50% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
25% chance at an exotic weapon

25% Health
2 guaranteed rares
35% chance at an exotic weapon
4 exotic boxes

0%, You successfully downed him.
6 rares and 2 guaranteed exotic weapons
6 exotic boxes
50% chance for an additional exotic weapon
15% chance for an ascended weapon
7.5% chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon

You don’t understand

Its not that high, its like 2.5% to get what you want.

In time, people will be downing him regularly. You don’t want to make ascended crafting invalidated.

No, he will be nerfed instead. Currently hes a waste of time.

Daecollo.9578:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Daecollo.9578:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Those rewards are a bit too high, but I do agree with the idea in general of giving him better rewards. My reward schedule would look more like:

75% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
15% chance at an exotic weapon

50% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
25% chance at an exotic weapon

25% Health
2 guaranteed rares
35% chance at an exotic weapon
4 exotic boxes

0%, You successfully downed him.
6 rares and 2 guaranteed exotic weapons
6 exotic boxes
50% chance for an additional exotic weapon
15% chance for an ascended weapon
7.5% chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon

You don’t understand

Its not that high, its like 2.5% to get what you want.

In time, people will be downing him regularly. You don’t want to make ascended crafting invalidated.

No, he will be nerfed instead. Currently hes a waste of time.

Have you ever played a game like Lineage 2 with big open world bosses (Antharas, Baium, Lilith)? Those required alliances of guilds to take down, aka hundreds of organized players. Tequatl is like these bosses. He’s not content designed to be facerolled.

TheKillerAngel.3596:

In time, people will be downing him regularly. You don’t want to make ascended crafting invalidated.

Why not? It’s kittening horrible.

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Daecollo.9578:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Daecollo.9578:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Those rewards are a bit too high, but I do agree with the idea in general of giving him better rewards. My reward schedule would look more like:

75% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
15% chance at an exotic weapon

50% Health
1 guaranteed rare
2 exotic boxes
25% chance at an exotic weapon

25% Health
2 guaranteed rares
35% chance at an exotic weapon
4 exotic boxes

0%, You successfully downed him.
6 rares and 2 guaranteed exotic weapons
6 exotic boxes
50% chance for an additional exotic weapon
15% chance for an ascended weapon
7.5% chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon

You don’t understand

Its not that high, its like 2.5% to get what you want.

In time, people will be downing him regularly. You don’t want to make ascended crafting invalidated.

No, he will be nerfed instead. Currently hes a waste of time.

Have you ever played a game like Lineage 2 with big open world bosses (Antharas, Baium, Lilith)?

Don’t care about other games. I know the path the game will take if the reward isn’t worth the effort.

People will avoid the encounter.

Vol.5241:

It takes 15 minutes to do it. If you win, you get massive rewards. If you lose, well tough luck, you lost 15 minutes.

What’s the problem?

Correction:

It takes about 45 minutes to get in a server capable of getting him down to 75% : 30 minutes to reserve your place in the spawn window and 15 minutes to do the fight

2+ hours to get in a server that is even capable of going beyond 75%.

Is this a SF novel? Say thanks for a brand new Teq mini and no more than that.

DarkWasp.7291:

Vol.5241:

It takes 15 minutes to do it. If you win, you get massive rewards. If you lose, well tough luck, you lost 15 minutes.

What’s the problem?

Correction:

It takes about 45 minutes to get in a server capable of getting him down to 75% : 30 minutes to reserve your place in the spawn window and 15 minutes to do the fight

2+ hours to get in a server that is even capable of going beyond 75%.

And in that 25% chance, you have a 2.5%ish percent chance to get the ascended weapon you actually want.

Daecollo.9578:

People will avoid the encounter.

Then ArenaNet will nerf the encounter and lure people back. They’ve put a lot of work into this, it’s their first revamped boss I think they’ll want to see it succeed and adjust it accordingly.

They should just give an ascended loot bag that contains a rare chance at an actual weapon or a number of Tequatl tokens if you don’t get one. You can trade in a certain number of the tokens for Tequatl weapons.

haviz.1340:

TheKillerAngel.3596:

In time, people will be downing him regularly. You don’t want to make ascended crafting invalidated.

Why not? It’s kittening horrible.

Perhaps I should reword my statement to “ArenaNet would not make Ascended drops so frequent from their world bosses as to make ascended crafting invalid, so suggestions to the contrary are meaningless.”

TheKillerAngel.3596:

Perhaps I should reword my statement to “ArenaNet would not make Ascended drops so frequent from their world bosses as to make ascended crafting invalid, so suggestions to the contrary are meaningless.”

Nevermind anyway, he drops only rapid stats.

His current weapons are pretty much appearance gear. Due to stats.

Daecollo.9578:

No, he will be nerfed instead. Currently hes a waste of time.

This.

If not it’s just gonna be Karka Queen 2.

You know what it needs? Good rewards for sticking with the darn fight for 15 minutes! My server was way worse than yesterday this morning, and I can’t blame them. I stuck with it for 15 minutes (many people DID NOT so our turrets kept going down) although I could see we weren’t even going to get to 75% and what did I get for my troubles? ALL my armor damaged and absolutely NO REWARD. This is terrible as designed.

Put rewards (even just a good amount of karma would help) in for just DOING the darn event to completion, and THEN we’ll see people not giving up out of frustration. I’ve done this event 6 times now, and I’m close to giving up myself. Very frustrated.

dorin.4618:

Daecollo.9578:

No, he will be nerfed instead. Currently hes a waste of time.

This.

If not it’s just gonna be Karka Queen 2.

The problem with the Karka Queen was that it just wasn’t rewarding enough. People do Karka Queen regularly now.

just killed him in desolation finally after several times trying

the loot was insanly crap got nothing but a rare item 1ecto

What would you rather have…

Him staying as he currently is with reasonable loot.
25%-50%-75%-100% chance to have a 10% chance to get what you want. (since there are so many ascended types

Him being nerfed to the ground because nobody will do him.
His health/powers/everything will be lowered to casual level, nobody will want to due him because crafting your own guarenteed ascended weapon is much easier and less time consuming. Even crafting a legendary is the same!

I’d rather he stay challenging, but have reasonable loot, BUT that is just me. I KNOW for a fact that one of these things will happen…

Are you sure it drops more than one stat?

LameFox.6349:

Are you sure it drops more than one stat?

It drops…
Carrion…
Berserker…
Cleric…
Knight…
Celestial…
Rabid…
Assassins…
Apothecary…

There are many more, it would have a 25%-100% chance to drop one of these weapons, it would have a very little chance to drop the one you actually want.

Currently the chance to get something you actually want is like… 0.005%.

Seriously rewards is insanly horrible its exactly like any other

well only reason is actully right now for me achivment title

LOL! So for 15 minutes of content, you want four (4) chances at getting a random Ascended weapon? I don’t know if this is Entitlement, or just a troll post.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

LOL! So for 15 minutes of content, you want four (4) chances at getting a random Ascended weapon? I don’t know if this is Entitlement, or just a troll post.

45 minutes for all 4 actually.

If it was 15 minutes, it would be 1 chance and a very small one at that.
25% divided by how many sets there are. It would be around 2.5%.

2.5% sounds VERY REASONABLE to me.

The chances sound high, however when you actually randomize that chance again, the chance of getting the stats you actually want are very low.

Daecollo.9578:

LameFox.6349:

Are you sure it drops more than one stat?

It drops…
Carrion…
Berserker…
Cleric…
Knight…
Celestial…
Rabid…
Assassins…
Apothecary…

There are many more, it would have a 25%-100% chance to drop one of these weapons, it would have a very little chance to drop the one you actually want.

Currently the chance to get something you actually want is like… 0.005%.

Source? The in-game links to them (via dulfy) come up as Rabid.

Well for me for getting all my armor damaged and not quitting like many others, I’d like some karma please. Or SOMETHING to make it worth my while to try knocking my head against the very annoying wall that is now Teq again and again.

Without this, I fear most of my extremely wonderful but not hardcore server will just give up and I’ll never have a chance to kill him.

And yes, I DO think the OP’s original loot increase idea is over the top, but I understand the frustration that makes the suggestion. However for me since I’ve tried Teq 6 times without my server getting him to 75% (although we were really close once) any increase in even 75% loot is hypothetical and not really going to encourage peeps on my server to keep trying when its so expensive and there are so many more rewarding things to do for PVE folk.

LameFox.6349:

It’s not worth the time. The risk is at most a few silver.

exactly. there’s really no “risk” in anything in this game. it’s just time. and teq is no longer worth the time.

My numbers are reasonable if you look at statistics.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest

THERE ARE 17 DIFFERENT SETS…
25% chance = 1.7% chance of getting the chest you actually want.

agree with the OP’s sentiment…..but his/her suggestions are way too high and would destroy the crafting system and economy of many mats.

i’d go with more like TheKillerAngel suggests, but change killing Teq to:

4 rares and 1 exotic guaranteed
6 exotic boxes
25% chance for an ascended weapon (of which you have a higher proportional chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon versus other stats)

Relshdan.6854:

agree with the OP’s sentiment…..but his/her suggestions are way too high and would destroy the crafting system and economy of many mats.

i’d go with more like TheKillerAngel suggests, but change killing Teq to:

4 rares and 1 exotic guaranteed
6 exotic boxes
25% chance for an ascended weapon (of which you have a higher proportional chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon versus other stats)

OM…

NO IT WOULD NOT.

CRAFTING ISN’T RANDOM, YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest

25%-100% Chance to get ANY ONE OF THESE CHESTS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LOW THAT IS?

It would make it REASONABLE.

Crafting Allows you to get exactly the item you want to craft. This would be a…
25% / 17. 1% Chance…
50% / 17. 3% Chance…
75% / 17. 4% Chance…
100% / 17. 5% Chance…

You don’t get to pick which chests you get.

This argument is basically another “easy mode” plea. To get four (4) shots at a random Ascended weapon, regardless of completing the event, is basically like asking Anet to provide free Legendaries for each character you own.

Here’s a tip for you: If you feel Tequatl isn’t worth your time, go kill the Shadow Behemoth. He has a new 15 minute timer too, but you can still kill him in under 3 minutes.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

This argument is basically another “easy mode” plea. To get four (4) shots at a random Ascended weapon, regardless of completing the event, is basically like asking Anet to provide free Legendaries for each character you own.

Here’s a tip for you: If you feel Tequatl isn’t worth your time, go kill the Shadow Behemoth. He has a new 15 minute timer too, but you can still kill him in under 3 minutes.

You don’t know what your talking about and have no idea what your saying. It is kind of rude to skim over posts without reading them.

What is it with this obsession for rewards of people play it if its fun leave it if it isn’t it doesn’t matter at all what it drops.

Tequatl isn’t challanging.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Here’s a tip for you: If you feel Tequatl isn’t worth your time, go kill the Shadow Behemoth. He has a new 15 minute timer too, but you can still kill him in under 3 minutes.

Yeah that’s probably what I’m going to do if whatever overflow I get into tonight can only get him down to 90% or whatever again. Lord knows I’m not just going to stand around dodging rotting fish carcasses for an hour just to have a shot at losing on my home server…

Daecollo.9578:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

This argument is basically another “easy mode” plea. To get four (4) shots at a random Ascended weapon, regardless of completing the event, is basically like asking Anet to provide free Legendaries for each character you own.

Here’s a tip for you: If you feel Tequatl isn’t worth your time, go kill the Shadow Behemoth. He has a new 15 minute timer too, but you can still kill him in under 3 minutes.

You don’t know what your talking about and have no idea what your saying. It is kind of rude to skim over posts without reading them.

What don’t I get? You stated you wanted a chance to get an Ascended drop for each quarter of life you take from Teq. But the part I missed was that you also wanted four (4) chances to get exclusive Tequatl weapon skins too. So basically, that’s eight (8) chances to get an Ascended type weapon for 15 minutes of work.

8…

Daecollo.9578:

Relshdan.6854:

agree with the OP’s sentiment…..but his/her suggestions are way too high and would destroy the crafting system and economy of many mats.

i’d go with more like TheKillerAngel suggests, but change killing Teq to:

4 rares and 1 exotic guaranteed
6 exotic boxes
25% chance for an ascended weapon (of which you have a higher proportional chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon versus other stats)

OM…

NO IT WOULD NOT.

CRAFTING ISN’T RANDOM, YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest

25%-100% Chance to get ANY ONE OF THESE CHESTS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LOW THAT IS?

It would make it REASONABLE.

Crafting Allows you to get exactly the item you want to craft. This would be a…
25% / 17.
50% / 17.
75% / 17.
100% / 17.

have always understood this………we’re just disagreeing on the semantics of “reasonable”.

if in the next two weeks, the event proves impossible for all but the largest servers (only two have done it once), then i may lean more to what you call “reasonable” for a 15-45 minute investment of time/money (versus the significantly more expensive and time-consuming, but certain, task of crafting ascended).

we will see.
the important thing is that the rewards are terrible currently, and the event will become a ghost-town after the achievements are earned if that isn’t fixed. nerfing the difficulty will not change that fact…..only an increase in rewards.

Relshdan.6854:

Daecollo.9578:

Relshdan.6854:

agree with the OP’s sentiment…..but his/her suggestions are way too high and would destroy the crafting system and economy of many mats.

i’d go with more like TheKillerAngel suggests, but change killing Teq to:

4 rares and 1 exotic guaranteed
6 exotic boxes
25% chance for an ascended weapon (of which you have a higher proportional chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon versus other stats)

OM…

NO IT WOULD NOT.

CRAFTING ISN’T RANDOM, YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest

25%-100% Chance to get ANY ONE OF THESE CHESTS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LOW THAT IS?

It would make it REASONABLE.

Crafting Allows you to get exactly the item you want to craft. This would be a…
25% / 17.
50% / 17.
75% / 17.
100% / 17.

have always understood this………we’re just disagreeing on the semantics of “reasonable”.

if in the next two weeks, the event proves impossible for all but the largest servers (only two have done it once), then i may lean more to what you call “reasonable” for a 15-45 minute investment of time/money (versus the significantly more expensive and time-consuming, but certain, task of crafting ascended).

we will see.
the important thing is that the rewards are terrible currently, and the event will become a ghost-town after the achievements are earned if that isn’t fixed. nerfing the difficulty will not change that fact…..only an increase in rewards.

You also have to consider that many people have up to 5 level 80s. It will not invalidate crafting.

Daecollo.9578:

Relshdan.6854:

Daecollo.9578:

Relshdan.6854:

agree with the OP’s sentiment…..but his/her suggestions are way too high and would destroy the crafting system and economy of many mats.

i’d go with more like TheKillerAngel suggests, but change killing Teq to:

4 rares and 1 exotic guaranteed
6 exotic boxes
25% chance for an ascended weapon (of which you have a higher proportional chance for a Tequatl ascended weapon versus other stats)

OM…

NO IT WOULD NOT.

CRAFTING ISN’T RANDOM, YOU GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest

25%-100% Chance to get ANY ONE OF THESE CHESTS.

DO YOU KNOW HOW LOW THAT IS?

It would make it REASONABLE.

Crafting Allows you to get exactly the item you want to craft. This would be a…
25% / 17.
50% / 17.
75% / 17.
100% / 17.

have always understood this………we’re just disagreeing on the semantics of “reasonable”.

if in the next two weeks, the event proves impossible for all but the largest servers (only two have done it once), then i may lean more to what you call “reasonable” for a 15-45 minute investment of time/money (versus the significantly more expensive and time-consuming, but certain, task of crafting ascended).

we will see.
the important thing is that the rewards are terrible currently, and the event will become a ghost-town after the achievements are earned if that isn’t fixed. nerfing the difficulty will not change that fact…..only an increase in rewards.

You also have to consider that many people have up to 5 level 80s. It will not invalidate crafting.

….yet that also lessens the sting of not getting the exact ascended you wanted….since you have 5 different classes with probably 2-3 different builds you might run in different game-modes.

again….you might be right……………..but if this event gets “figured out” and becomes a regular daily completion (doubtful, but possible) then your suggestion for rewards will get you what you want fairly quickly.

Daecollo.9578:

You also have to consider that many people have up to 5 level 80s. It will not invalidate crafting.

Also note that if your server isn’t up to par for Tequatl, crafting will still be your main source for Ascended gear. It’s a win/win scenario. Elites will have exclusive skins, and the rest will have crafted ones.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Daecollo.9578:

You also have to consider that many people have up to 5 level 80s. It will not invalidate crafting.

Also note that if your server isn’t up to par for Tequatl, crafting will still be your main source for Ascended gear. It’s a win/win scenario. Elites will have exclusive skins, and the rest will have crafted ones.

I think 100% chance of getting a chest if you defeat him is very fair, because you have a random chance of that to get 17 different chests.

Daecollo.9578:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Daecollo.9578:

You also have to consider that many people have up to 5 level 80s. It will not invalidate crafting.

Also note that if your server isn’t up to par for Tequatl, crafting will still be your main source for Ascended gear. It’s a win/win scenario. Elites will have exclusive skins, and the rest will have crafted ones.

I think 100% chance of getting a chest if you defeat him is very fair, because you have a random chance of that to get 17 different chests.

You mean eight (8) chances at an Ascended weapon, with no requirements of success being fair?

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Daecollo.9578:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Daecollo.9578:

You also have to consider that many people have up to 5 level 80s. It will not invalidate crafting.

Also note that if your server isn’t up to par for Tequatl, crafting will still be your main source for Ascended gear. It’s a win/win scenario. Elites will have exclusive skins, and the rest will have crafted ones.

I think 100% chance of getting a chest if you defeat him is very fair, because you have a random chance of that to get 17 different chests.

You mean eight (8) chances at an Ascended weapon, with no requirements of success being fair?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_chest