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Posted by: slinkiestyew.6823

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This dungeon is rough, it’s tough, and it’s a barrel of fun and challenge! It’s got unique mechanics that take awhile to learn (above the usual skip-stack-skip combos) and are immensely satisfying when done right.

What’s WRONG is the community. It’s surprisingly awful ._. We’re getting these “Achievement Point” gated groups popping up everywhere – as poor an indicator as any on the quality of a player. I just picked up the game a few months ago, I’ve got a low AP rating, but I’ve cleared the dungeon and I know what I’m doing and am happy to be a team-player.

My two party mates, on the other hand, with about eighty bazillion APs each are bickering like six year olds with lines like “Oh I’M the better mesmer, eff you!” and “Oh REALLY! Why are you downed right now then? You suck.” and of course the “LET ME LINK YOU ALL MY GEAR. You guys ALL suck and I’m tired of ‘carrying you’” conversation that has me about ready to swap teams to join the Sparki / Slick party instead. Another party member tries to clarify a mechanic and is greeted with “-____-”s and “get out if you don’t know what you’re doing” mockery.

Of course, the group ultimately disbands, members rage-quit and all progress is lost as we are kicked out of the instance. …Again (Good riddance). It’s impossible to run this thing without being booted out of the dungeon halfway or having to find new members every few steps.

Is this the kind of community we are? :/ Here’s a call to patience, to teamwork and to having fun Drop the absolutely silly elitism and pride and enjoy yourselves already! Be a friend

*That said: If anyone is of similar sentiment, do add me and perhaps we’ll clear this thing together with smiles and cookies instead! As a mostly lone player without a guild of 2000 others to back me up, finding friends tends to be difficult.

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Posted by: Amok Threeohthree.8501

Amok Threeohthree.8501

The only solution is a guild only run I guess…

I have only been in a PUG group about 4 times since I play gw2 and it was hottible every time

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

despite i’d say the dungeon is neither fun, nor hard IMHO.

If a mmorpg forces you to play only with friends, then is going against the definition of the genre.

Why not having a multyplayer game for 5 people?

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Chief.5928

Chief.5928

The only solution is a guild only run I guess…

Nope, the only solution is reasonable sensible people like us reporting idiots such as the players described by the OP. Active participation by the proper players to counter kitten behaviour will severely aid ArenaNet in keeping the GW2 clean of teenagers etc displaying the behaviour I once had to face every day when I still played WoW.

I did the new dungeon yesterday with a Pug and the atmosphere was brilliant. People communicated through chat, we tried to analyze what to do etc. No problems whatsoever.

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Posted by: Treeline.3865

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I’d recommend finding a laid back guild as well. If you join one of these 500 man guilds it’s as good as pugs. If you find a small sized one that actually consists of players wanting to play together your experience should improve significantly. Unfortunately you’re NA, can’t play with you

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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What’s WRONG is the community.

I’ll quote a good man here:

Uhh…yeah actually that’s EXACTLY what they’re working really hard to create. Look at any of J-Sharps more longwinded schpeals on why they won’t do Skill Splits. They’re definitely working as hard as they can to put all their effort on eSports while classes like Ranger, Engi, and Necro constantly take back seats to War/Guard/Mes. ….A lot of it feels more like they’re only working on excuses, but there’ a lot of skill changes getting cranked out along side that too. So they’re obviously doing a lot of work to foster this community to specifically expect the Worst from these subpar classes joining them in Pugs.

The community acts this way because the content is fostering that type of behavior. The whole gearing is our natural tendency to attempt to blame things (sometimes people get blamed, other times gear) – people are bad at figuring out what causes their frustration (in this case it’s RNG death, not gear, not other players).

Some players think that 10 000 AP means they are better, it does not – it means the are supposed to be above that type of childish behavior because they have been through a lot of this type of the stuff in the game and therefore you should be able to expect a certain level of maturity (or frustration condition resistance/cleansing xD) from them.

Auroraglade
Epistemic.8013: Guys this is bullkitten a sentient plant creature is hitting these
wooden doors with fireballs and it’s working
.

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Posted by: Treeline.3865

Treeline.3865

There is no “RNG death” in this dungeon.

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Posted by: Aisina.4963

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AP barriers are laughable. I have thousands of points just from my daily and monthly. Which really take little to no effort. Same with a lot of APs. I’m hitting 10,000 AP without hardly ever being in a dungeon or fractal. The fact that people think it represents some kind of ‘skill’ …. Oh dear.

S/F Asuran Elementalist

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

zamalek.2154

There is no “RNG death” in this dungeon.

Multiple player getting the pheremone during Slick and Sparki + the plant during that sequence not working as expected = RNG death in pug groups.

Auroraglade
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wooden doors with fireballs and it’s working
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Posted by: HiSaZuL.2843

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If anet gave a kitten… half the population would have been banned about a year ago.

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Posted by: Tower Guard.5263

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The community is self correcting imo. What I mean is that if people don’t like the content that is being released every update, they will go away until only those that like the content remain.

I don’t understand why people play a game if they are not having fun. Sure you can complain about something that is just released, but if you haven’t enjoyed the content for 3 or 4 updates why stay? If people stay to complain, that it’s not Anets fault, but the players.

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