Giftbox RNG
This is beyoned unfair and goes against everything Arenanet has done with the gem store.
Sounds exactly like halloween, actually.
Are these the minis that you can make buy getting materials from the tixx dungeon without spending a dime, btw?
Spent 75 at halloween, never again buying gems. Had I gotten at least “something”, i would have been more inclined to buy gems again.
But never again.
That is all.
Except Halloween has a 3-pack of mini-pets…
+1
I bought 10 chests and got 2 mini’s so your friend got unlucky – however that is exactly the problem with RNG.
Minis should have been either tradable hence no need to buy the chests if this is all you want, or should have been via a pack.
don’t gamble if you don’t know the probabilities or you’re not satisfied with them.
This is beyoned unfair and goes against everything Arenanet has done with the gem store.
Sounds exactly like halloween, actually.
Are these the minis that you can make buy getting materials from the tixx dungeon without spending a dime, btw?
Actually, Halloween had a Halloween Mini-Pack that you could buy. It gave you all three minis, and then you could toss those minis in the Mystic Forge to get a “super” mini. There was no random/lottery for them. You could buy them straight up.
These new minis on the other hand, can only be obtained through the lottery chests. So someone could spend 100 dollars on lottery chests, and not get a single mini. Or alternatively, spend 100 dollars, and get 30 of the same exact mini. And they are account bound so you are stuck with those 30 duplicates, that you have to either bank or destroy since you can’t sell them.
They are talking about the minis from the Wintersday Lottery Chests in the gem store, not the ones from the new dungeon.
Lady Bethany Of Noh – Chronomancer – Lords of Noh [LoN]
why do people care so much about minis? They are just cosmetic nothing more :S
why do people care so much about minis? They are just cosmetic nothing more :S
You’re asking quite an odd question to a community who plays a game that revolves around collecting cosmetics. lol
Lady Bethany Of Noh – Chronomancer – Lords of Noh [LoN]
I seriously hope people +1 this post so we can get Arenanet to put out a 4-pack sale for the minis. I refuse to spend money on RNG but will 100% spend money on the 4-pack!
Maybe next time. They can’t back out anymore when people have bought the minis already. It’d be an even bigger slap in the face for those players.
I seriously hope people +1 this post so we can get Arenanet to put out a 4-pack sale for the minis. I refuse to spend money on RNG but will 100% spend money on the 4-pack!
Maybe next time. They can’t back out anymore when people have bought the minis already. It’d be an even bigger slap in the face for those players.
The only plausible solution would be to make the minis able to be traded. Remove the account bound, and allow players to trade them.
Any other way would end up screwing over the players who already bought them.
Lady Bethany Of Noh – Chronomancer – Lords of Noh [LoN]
i believe you may be wrong here i doubt he spent 75 dollars i believe you are exaggerating by A LOT i don’t believe you although i do wish they put the minis in a pack like Halloween in this event i feel as if i’m not being robbed at all its really enjoyable i had 200 gems left over from Halloween bought 2 boxes got a mini i was happy when i announced i got one a lot of other people said they got one too either your lying or this person has the worst luck in the world or you can just hate the gem store entirely and be making this up in hopes they get rid of it because i believe that this system is working the definatley improved. though id rather have the minis in a pack rather than a random.
PS. many of you are forgetting that Anet made it so by the end of the event you can make any 2 minis of the wintersday festival of your choice.
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i believe you may be wrong here i doubt he spent 75 dollars i believe you are exaggerating by A LOT i don’t believe you although i do wish they put the minis in a pack like Halloween in this event i feel as if i’m not being robbed at all its really enjoyable i had 200 gems left over from Halloween bought 2 boxes got a mini i was happy when i announced i got one a lot of other people said they got one too either your lying or this person has the worst luck in the world or you can just hate the gem store entirely and be making this up in hopes they get rid of it because i believe that this system is working the definatley improved. though id rather have the minis in a pack rather than a random.
You forget that it is all RNG based. While you and a few others might get one on your first or second try, others might not get one at all. You can’t base the entire drop rate off your own personal experience. It is purely luck based. And if the RNG system hates you, you won’t get one.
Lady Bethany Of Noh – Chronomancer – Lords of Noh [LoN]
Well I got 30 boxes from the gemstore… >_<"
4 snowman pets, 1 miniature airship… and all I wanted was this freaky golem… and then, they’re not even tradeable, what I find quite sad, as we could have exchanged them for the ones we wanted.
And how are Quagganfans supposed to get their cuuuuute Quaggan if they do not have the cash to buy these boxes until(!) they have 3 minis? That’s sad too.
i believe you may be wrong here i doubt he spent 75 dollars i believe you are exaggerating by A LOT i don’t believe you although i do wish they put the minis in a pack like Halloween in this event i feel as if i’m not being robbed at all its really enjoyable i had 200 gems left over from Halloween bought 2 boxes got a mini i was happy when i announced i got one a lot of other people said they got one too either your lying or this person has the worst luck in the world or you can just hate the gem store entirely and be making this up in hopes they get rid of it because i believe that this system is working the definatley improved. though id rather have the minis in a pack rather than a random.
Well guess what bro it is true. Wheter you believe me or not I could rely care less, this is not about you, sorry to break your bubble. This is about the wintersday minis not being sold on the gem store in a 4-pack. RNG should never had revolved around 1 time only minis.
Bring back the Event Mini-Pet set in the GemStore please !!
This RNG event boxes for mini-pets is stupid. Halloween knew how to do it right.
I’m a GW2 fanboy and everything else about Wintersday so far has been marvelous and so on point, but this is preposterous.
[ART] Gate of Madness
+1 mate.
I spead 50 dollars for nothing, i feel scamed, they really needed put those minies in some pack like on hallowean, or make them farmable like in GW1.
I spent $20. That’s my threshold for being ripped off. I’ll still buy the items on the TP where I know what I’m getting after I get some holiday cash, but paying that type of cash for 30 in-game presents is terrible.
i believe you may be wrong here i doubt he spent 75 dollars i believe you are exaggerating by A LOT i don’t believe you although i do wish they put the minis in a pack like Halloween in this event i feel as if i’m not being robbed at all its really enjoyable i had 200 gems left over from Halloween bought 2 boxes got a mini i was happy when i announced i got one a lot of other people said they got one too either your lying or this person has the worst luck in the world or you can just hate the gem store entirely and be making this up in hopes they get rid of it because i believe that this system is working the definatley improved. though id rather have the minis in a pack rather than a random.
Well guess what bro it is true. Wheter you believe me or not I could rely care less, this is not about you, sorry to break your bubble. This is about the wintersday minis not being sold on the gem store in a 4-pack. RNG should never had revolved around 1 time only minis.
you misunderstand i may not believe your story but you are right about the RNG minis that is the wrong direction for minis but it happened hopefully not again but they did it that way im only trying to give support to A net this is a new system for any MMO they got to test it it ll be rocky before it gets smooth lots of people are QQing and saying i quit over something that isn’t necessary
Yes please! waste more $$$ so arenet could give us more content <3 I love you!
i believe you may be wrong here i doubt he spent 75 dollars i believe you are exaggerating by A LOT i don’t believe you although i do wish they put the minis in a pack like Halloween in this event i feel as if i’m not being robbed at all its really enjoyable i had 200 gems left over from Halloween bought 2 boxes got a mini i was happy when i announced i got one a lot of other people said they got one too either your lying or this person has the worst luck in the world or you can just hate the gem store entirely and be making this up in hopes they get rid of it because i believe that this system is working the definatley improved. though id rather have the minis in a pack rather than a random.
Well guess what bro it is true. Wheter you believe me or not I could rely care less, this is not about you, sorry to break your bubble. This is about the wintersday minis not being sold on the gem store in a 4-pack. RNG should never had revolved around 1 time only minis.
you misunderstand i may not believe your story but you are right about the RNG minis that is the wrong direction for minis but it happened hopefully not again but they did it that way im only trying to give support to A net this is a new system for any MMO they got to test it it ll be rocky before it gets smooth lots of people are QQing and saying i quit over something that isn’t necessary
I have not heard anyone say, “I quit”. However if this is the direction of the gem store than maybe I should just give up on it all together as far as making purchases other than bank slot and bag slot expansion.
I would love to know who’s brilliant idea it was at arenanet to make the pets RNG.
i believe you may be wrong here i doubt he spent 75 dollars i believe you are exaggerating by A LOT i don’t believe you although i do wish they put the minis in a pack like Halloween in this event i feel as if i’m not being robbed at all its really enjoyable i had 200 gems left over from Halloween bought 2 boxes got a mini i was happy when i announced i got one a lot of other people said they got one too either your lying or this person has the worst luck in the world or you can just hate the gem store entirely and be making this up in hopes they get rid of it because i believe that this system is working the definatley improved. though id rather have the minis in a pack rather than a random.
Well guess what bro it is true. Wheter you believe me or not I could rely care less, this is not about you, sorry to break your bubble. This is about the wintersday minis not being sold on the gem store in a 4-pack. RNG should never had revolved around 1 time only minis.
you misunderstand i may not believe your story but you are right about the RNG minis that is the wrong direction for minis but it happened hopefully not again but they did it that way im only trying to give support to A net this is a new system for any MMO they got to test it it ll be rocky before it gets smooth lots of people are QQing and saying i quit over something that isn’t necessary
Actually this system is far from new. The Lottery thing is something that has been a part of F2P games for awhile. They use these lottery items (though they are more P2W items instead of cosmetic) to suck money from their players. It is a gambler’s paradise. This is nothing new, as I said, F2P games have been doing this forever. Just sad to see this sort of system in a “AAA” MMO.
Lady Bethany Of Noh – Chronomancer – Lords of Noh [LoN]
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RNG with real money lol… It’s like Areanet hates money.
Sir Spanx Too Much (80 Warrior), Lanevo X (80 Necromancer), Miss Meryzia (40 Mesmer)
It appears my thread has returned after being deleted by the anet gods lol. Well let us rejoice and Call for a 4-pack mini
This is beyoned unfair and goes against everything Arenanet has done with the gem store.
Sounds exactly like halloween, actually.
Are these the minis that you can make buy getting materials from the tixx dungeon without spending a dime, btw?
Actually, Halloween had a Halloween Mini-Pack that you could buy. It gave you all three minis, and then you could toss those minis in the Mystic Forge to get a “super” mini. There was no random/lottery for them. You could buy them straight up.
These new minis on the other hand, can only be obtained through the lottery chests. So someone could spend 100 dollars on lottery chests, and not get a single mini. Or alternatively, spend 100 dollars, and get 30 of the same exact mini. And they are account bound so you are stuck with those 30 duplicates, that you have to either bank or destroy since you can’t sell them.
They are talking about the minis from the Wintersday Lottery Chests in the gem store, not the ones from the new dungeon.
from what I read you could get the quag from the giant gifts at a low chance
It appears my thread has returned after being deleted by the anet gods lol. Well let us rejoice and Call for a 4-pack mini
It probably wasn’t ever deleted. This section is probably the most active in the forum at the moment and topics can move down the page very quickly.
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
This is beyoned unfair and goes against everything Arenanet has done with the gem store.
Sounds exactly like halloween, actually.
Are these the minis that you can make buy getting materials from the tixx dungeon without spending a dime, btw?
Actually, Halloween had a Halloween Mini-Pack that you could buy. It gave you all three minis, and then you could toss those minis in the Mystic Forge to get a “super” mini. There was no random/lottery for them. You could buy them straight up.
These new minis on the other hand, can only be obtained through the lottery chests. So someone could spend 100 dollars on lottery chests, and not get a single mini. Or alternatively, spend 100 dollars, and get 30 of the same exact mini. And they are account bound so you are stuck with those 30 duplicates, that you have to either bank or destroy since you can’t sell them.
They are talking about the minis from the Wintersday Lottery Chests in the gem store, not the ones from the new dungeon.
from what I read you could get the quag from the giant gifts at a low chance
Do you remember where you read this?
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
Im not gonna buy a lottery ticket if I don’t win.
We want a holiday mini pack! I do not want to play the lottery to get something I should be able to acquire without stress.
Im not gonna buy a lottery ticket if I don’t win.
Technically you’d never buy a ticket, because until you do you won’t ever win. But thanks for adding to the discussion and keeping the thread relevant. I think the point to take away for that post is that Anet won’t sell, as many, lotto boxes if the customer never wins.
A method they could use in future is the hook a duck method.
I buy boxes from the cash shop.
each Box has 1x random festive item & 1 golden ticket (potenially tradeable item)
Golden tickets are used to buy Skins and Mini’s or whatever they have at the time in the event.
Using current event as example. You open a box and have a chance at getting a Mini but if you don’t get the mini you wanted you also still get a golden ticket. 20 golden tickets (or pick a number) = 1 mini pet = happy customer who didn’t feel fully screwed with box after box containing junk they didn’t want.
Im not gonna buy a lottery ticket if I don’t win.
Technically you’d never buy a ticket, because until you do you won’t ever win. But thanks for adding to the discussion and keeping the thread relevant. I think the point to take away for that post is that Anet won’t sell, as many, lotto boxes if the customer never wins.
A method they could use in future is the hook a duck method.
I buy boxes from the cash shop.
each Box has 1x random festive item & 1 golden ticket (potenially tradeable item)Golden tickets are used to buy Skins and Mini’s or whatever they have at the time in the event.
Using current event as example. You open a box and have a chance at getting a Mini but if you don’t get the mini you wanted you also still get a golden ticket. 20 golden tickets (or pick a number) = 1 mini pet = happy customer who didn’t feel fully screwed with box after box containing junk they didn’t want.
Yeah I’d be happy with that.
I’d also be happy with them just making the minis unbound so I could buy them later on the TP.
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
Im not gonna buy a lottery ticket if I don’t win.
Technically you’d never buy a ticket, because until you do you won’t ever win. But thanks for adding to the discussion and keeping the thread relevant. I think the point to take away for that post is that Anet won’t sell, as many, lotto boxes if the customer never wins.
A method they could use in future is the hook a duck method.
I buy boxes from the cash shop.
each Box has 1x random festive item & 1 golden ticket (potenially tradeable item)Golden tickets are used to buy Skins and Mini’s or whatever they have at the time in the event.
Using current event as example. You open a box and have a chance at getting a Mini but if you don’t get the mini you wanted you also still get a golden ticket. 20 golden tickets (or pick a number) = 1 mini pet = happy customer who didn’t feel fully screwed with box after box containing junk they didn’t want.
Actually I think this was a nice move from ANET. Almost everybody loves quaggans, they put one in RNG box, with 3 other minis and some crap stuff you know = Great way getting money, because its so RNG also quaggan.
In player opinion, I didn’t like it too much. I had to buy like 60 chests to get all 3 pets and make one quaggan. Not to mention I have 2 golems and 2 flying robots in my bank.
Tl;dr : Great way to make money from bussiness view. Such a dissapointment from player view. But if we could buy what we want. (For example 4 minipet collection 1600 gems or something ) ANET wouldn’t make so much money.
i agree with the 4 pack but dont gamble if you cant afford to lose
The RNG is fine, used the 800 gems i had sitting in my account since halloween to buy 10 boxes, got 3 minis in them, as well as the unlimited hair thing going for 105 gold, dye kits and all kinds of things. And that was just 10, the only 10 ive bought.
I got 4 from 20 boxes. Seems pretty decent to me. Got my Quaggan. <3
I also wish they were put in a 4-pack. I would have gotten them then, but it’s a waste if you cannot trade them or exchange the duplicates anywhere and you’re stuck with 2 of the same kind, or worse, you spent too much money to get none.
Can we get a post from anet regarding the possibility for a mini pack like the halloween mini pack? Please
I just don’t understand what the big deal is. I’m not about to gamble on minis, and since they aren’t simply sold in a pack, then I shall not get them.
This isn’t something that makes me angry, or even disappoints me slightly.
because you obviously are not a completionist nor do you truley care about the “collection” concept for mini pet collecting. There is a large audience of fans who are really upset. Go troll somewhere else please.
Seriously though "Minis Pack GO GO
The problem with their RNG system is, it is something like 0 or 100. Either you get nothing or a lot. A good RNG is something that requires constant effort but only varies within a specific range. Suppose you need 100 tokens for a specific item and buying a gift box would always give you 10 to 50 tokens in random, that would be a reasonable system because you are guaranteed to get one within 10 tries and if you are lucky enough you need only 2 boxes to get it. While in current system, it is possible that you buy 10000 boxes and still get nothing because you share the randomizing factor with many others.
Current system is simply lottery or gamble. The infamous style in most Korean F2P MMOs. Now you know who runs the game. Well it is your choice after all.
its anets choice to give us no end game, the current endgame is completing things, and pet collection is an example of that. This is absurd.
Lets hear it for Mini pack!!!!
Thank you for paying and keeping the game alive. I played for free until now after the 1-time-payment to buy the client/account.
I want to get all 3/4 minis also, but the idea of gambling real money…not going to happen. Please add 3-pack pls!!!
I really think that anet needs to about letting us sell the minis in so that you can get them all. Im not buying any of them whit gems. I might have bought some I could have sold them at a later date to make gold . just like the minis in guild wars one
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Another solution would be to let you transform 3 of one pet in another one(+some 4th item to determine which of the other pets you get; item should be easy to obtain). You could still be lucky to get only the ones you need(and still need to get them from chests).
They still will make tons of money. Oh. And make them tradable at last day of event when enough people paid enough money ha ha. Then others can get them cheap and laugh at the ones that paid a lot.
I’m a bit surprised no one mentions that you are nearly guaranteed a mini if you participate in the dungeon a couple times… Not to mention it looks like you can then buy the mini for gems too (at least the ventari)
I understand that the rare ones from the box are awesome, but I found the drop rate rather high (even for RNG). Part of me can’t believe the people saying they opened over 30 and didn’t get one (by 30, I already had multiples of all of them except the lightbulb golem, and I’m normally not that lucky)… But that’s the RNG…
Unfortunately what can you do if you want to keep an item with any resemblance to a rarer item…? You can’t win… And apparently even if you put them in as extra treats (again, there are several non-RNG minis)… Still can’t win.
Just curious – can you use 3 of the toy makers minis to make the quaggan?
I find it somewhat amusing to see how “outraged” people are. You spend money on something that you know only has a small chance of giving you what you want and then you get mad that you arent getting what you wanted to get.
Thats like going to vegas, blowing all your money at the blackjack table and then raging at the dealer for taking all your money.
You knew what you were spending your money on, dont be mad if you dont get what you want.
Also, keep in mind that this is day 1 of a 2 week event, those minipacks can still be added.
As for the “you could get 30 of the same mini’s”, you can put them in the mystic forge to make the quaggan.