Guild Wars 2

The next iteration should be called GvG Hoedown, narrated by someone with a strong Southern accent

saiyr.3071:

The next iteration should be called GvG Hoedown, narrated by someone with a strong Southern accent

Not sure if like….

Im sure many more r gonna be following ogre’s lead soon, this company really doesnt seem to wanna listen to its playerbase

Anyone know if ESO’s RvR is any good?

I heard the combat system will be terrible in ESO, holding your mouse button down longer to do more dmg etc

ESO looks like another SWToR to me – all brand and little substance – but could surely be wrong.

As far as massive pvp goes, i fear that CU will be next chance, unless i’m missing some other MMO along the way (maybe Archeage? should go back anc check) packing WvW/RvR or such.

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

MartyPartys.9187:

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

Sadly though I don’t think anything will compete with the level/depth of combat that GW2 can offer. The combat system in GW2 is simply amazing. Combo fields alone make it a diamond in the rough…

I’m not holding my breath for any of the upcoming options.

I think TESO will be good for the “macro” scale of combat (top down strategizing), but the field fights….I’m far less hopeful. Wildstar is up in the air. We don’t know enough about EQ Next yet. ArcheAge looks pretty similar to TESO, but again we don’t know enough. CU will be one to keep an eye on, but it’s gonna be 2-3 years before anything reveals itself there.

As they say….time will tell.

Ogre.1750:

Expect next GvG Showdown to be the last in a long time, if ever. I’m moving on to other games. Will deliver a couple more bullets in one form or the other GW2wise, but I think im pretty much done short term.

No sad goodbyes, cuz its not like im dying. No fee makes for an easy return if devs suddenly do things right… but i really need a new game (im figuring gtav).

Also Sacrx trilogy should be out in the next few days.. he had some codec issues but first video should be hitting his channel very very soon. Be sure to not miss those.

The content that you produced for our community is top notch and deserves more recognition than it is currently getting from anet. Thank you so much sir for the time, effort, and dedication you put into your videos. Masterpieces, I think.

Sad to see our community go out like this. Just when things were getting interesting.

mekkanic.4759:

Sad to see our community go out like this. Just when things were getting interesting.

What’s that? Giving up?

I’m sure the community will get around it and find a solution, shouldn’t be too hard if we work all together. I mean, we cover a huge part of the wvw population, at least at primetime. Having a guild look after the orbs during someone else’s GvG shouldn’t be too hard to do.

On that note, so far 76% of the votes on the poll have said they want to be part of a matchup with all guilds involved. Detailed info will follow.

If you haven’t voted yet, please do.

Hickeroar.9734:

MartyPartys.9187:

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

Sadly though I don’t think anything will compete with the level/depth of combat that GW2 can offer. The combat system in GW2 is simply amazing. Combo fields alone make it a diamond in the rough…

I’m not holding my breath for any of the upcoming options.

I think TESO will be good for the “macro” scale of combat (top down strategizing), but the field fights….I’m far less hopeful. Wildstar is up in the air. We don’t know enough about EQ Next yet. ArcheAge looks pretty similar to TESO, but again we don’t know enough. CU will be one to keep an eye on, but it’s gonna be 2-3 years before anything reveals itself there.

As they say….time will tell.

There is nothing deep in GW2 combat because everything is wasted – combat is a mess.

Wildstar will have all PvP features: arenas, bgrounds, open PvP with OBJECTIVES, 40v40 Warplots and a combat system mixed of best arounds mmo (builds diversity of gw1, dash, double jump etc).

Pryda.8257:

Hickeroar.9734:

MartyPartys.9187:

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

Sadly though I don’t think anything will compete with the level/depth of combat that GW2 can offer. The combat system in GW2 is simply amazing. Combo fields alone make it a diamond in the rough…

I’m not holding my breath for any of the upcoming options.

I think TESO will be good for the “macro” scale of combat (top down strategizing), but the field fights….I’m far less hopeful. Wildstar is up in the air. We don’t know enough about EQ Next yet. ArcheAge looks pretty similar to TESO, but again we don’t know enough. CU will be one to keep an eye on, but it’s gonna be 2-3 years before anything reveals itself there.

As they say….time will tell.

There is nothing deep in GW2 combat because everything is wasted – combat is a mess.

Wildstar will have all PvP features: arenas, bgrounds, open PvP with OBJECTIVES, 40v40 Warplots and a combat system mixed of best arounds mmo (builds diversity of gw1, dash, double jump etc).

Why would you say combat is a mess? (Genuinely curious, not doubting you have reasons for your opinion).

When compared to classic MMO combat schemes (slow, stand still, wait for cast time, move again, long gcd, etc), GW2 seems to me to be filet mignon in a field of hamburger….

Pryda.8257:

Hickeroar.9734:

MartyPartys.9187:

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

Sadly though I don’t think anything will compete with the level/depth of combat that GW2 can offer. The combat system in GW2 is simply amazing. Combo fields alone make it a diamond in the rough…

I’m not holding my breath for any of the upcoming options.

I think TESO will be good for the “macro” scale of combat (top down strategizing), but the field fights….I’m far less hopeful. Wildstar is up in the air. We don’t know enough about EQ Next yet. ArcheAge looks pretty similar to TESO, but again we don’t know enough. CU will be one to keep an eye on, but it’s gonna be 2-3 years before anything reveals itself there.

As they say….time will tell.

There is nothing deep in GW2 combat because everything is wasted – combat is a mess.

Wildstar will have all PvP features: arenas, bgrounds, open PvP with OBJECTIVES, 40v40 Warplots and a combat system mixed of best arounds mmo (builds diversity of gw1, dash, double jump etc).

The targeting and aoe system looked pretty awesome too imo.

Pryda.8257:

Hickeroar.9734:

MartyPartys.9187:

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

Sadly though I don’t think anything will compete with the level/depth of combat that GW2 can offer. The combat system in GW2 is simply amazing. Combo fields alone make it a diamond in the rough…

I’m not holding my breath for any of the upcoming options.

I think TESO will be good for the “macro” scale of combat (top down strategizing), but the field fights….I’m far less hopeful. Wildstar is up in the air. We don’t know enough about EQ Next yet. ArcheAge looks pretty similar to TESO, but again we don’t know enough. CU will be one to keep an eye on, but it’s gonna be 2-3 years before anything reveals itself there.

As they say….time will tell.

There is nothing deep in GW2 combat because everything is wasted – combat is a mess.

Wildstar will have all PvP features: arenas, bgrounds, open PvP with OBJECTIVES, 40v40 Warplots and a combat system mixed of best arounds mmo (builds diversity of gw1, dash, double jump etc).

Wildstar devs specifically said that the open world pvp won’t be objective based.

Can someone link a video of the Wildstar PvP combat? From what i’ve seen so far it looked very immobile, people standing around casting skills… seems to be a real lack of mobility in combat.

ParaldaWind.4523:

Pryda.8257:

Hickeroar.9734:

MartyPartys.9187:

Wildstar seems to have alot of pvp formats also

Sadly though I don’t think anything will compete with the level/depth of combat that GW2 can offer. The combat system in GW2 is simply amazing. Combo fields alone make it a diamond in the rough…

I’m not holding my breath for any of the upcoming options.

I think TESO will be good for the “macro” scale of combat (top down strategizing), but the field fights….I’m far less hopeful. Wildstar is up in the air. We don’t know enough about EQ Next yet. ArcheAge looks pretty similar to TESO, but again we don’t know enough. CU will be one to keep an eye on, but it’s gonna be 2-3 years before anything reveals itself there.

As they say….time will tell.

There is nothing deep in GW2 combat because everything is wasted – combat is a mess.

Wildstar will have all PvP features: arenas, bgrounds, open PvP with OBJECTIVES, 40v40 Warplots and a combat system mixed of best arounds mmo (builds diversity of gw1, dash, double jump etc).

Wildstar devs specifically said that the open world pvp won’t be objective based.

Long time ago yes

The amount of defeatism I’m seeing around our little section of the forums is pretty kitten depressing. While things may not be swinging in our favor at the moment, that doesn’t mean its the end of GvG. The sky is not falling. Where there’s a will there’s a way ( and probably insert some other cliches in here as well), but I have faith in our community and peoples dedication to finding fun at all costs! All this woe is me crap needs to stop, people need to start focusing on finding new outlets to let our fun continue. This kitten ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

I agree with Dr Acula. At VII we aren’t overly concerned about “orbageddon”. We will continue to GvG and the thought of an opponent with buffs from all zones sounds like an awesome challenge.

Dr Acula.3496:

The amount of defeatism I’m seeing around our little section of the forums is pretty kitten depressing. While things may not be swinging in our favor at the moment, that doesn’t mean its the end of GvG. The sky is not falling. Where there’s a will there’s a way ( and probably insert some other cliches in here as well), but I have faith in our community and peoples dedication to finding fun at all costs! All this woe is me crap needs to stop, people need to start focusing on finding new outlets to let our fun continue. This kitten ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

You’re right, and thanks for saying so. I think we can still figure this monster out. Things might look different, or be a pain in some category, but I’m confident we’ll find a way to carry on.

Where there’s a will, there’s a way, and all that…. I’m pretty sure there’s a will. :-)

On that thought:
Maybe it will just look like keeping random pieces of lower level armor or trinkets around to change things up on the side of the team with a stacked buff, so the relevant stats take an appropriate hit. Dunno, just a thought. In any case, all is not lost!

Keeping random piece of lower level armor and you lose your rune as well. Remove a weapon and you lose your weapon attack. Trinkets? How would we know that you are not using the level 80 exotic ? Foods can’t balance what the orbs can reach. There is no way, anet will ruin the gvg scene with this buff.

The worst part of all this is the fact the GvG scene is REALLY starting to take off in the NA.

Its not the end persay but we’ll have to see.

The day all 3 servers colaborate to nullify bloodlust for a GvG match is the day we win as a PvP scene

Dico.4815:

Keeping random piece of lower level armor and you lose your rune as well. Remove a weapon and you lose your weapon attack. Trinkets? How would we know that you are not using the level 80 exotic ? Foods can’t balance what the orbs can reach. There is no way, anet will ruin the gvg scene with this buff.

I was just thinking of running some numbers and having a few trinkets (for instance) you could trade out for some lesser items (greens, rares, etc) that would give you lower points on those stats. You’d have to keep various setups to lower in case of a 50 point, 100 point, or 150 point advantage. Trinkets would work best because you would have a lot of options for selectively replacing things. It’d take a little math and a little gold, but it could be done.

You can’t know if your enemy is using the low trinket or the high ascended one.

Amongst the doom and gloom about orbageddon here, I hope I can bring some smiles with a video of one of Yippi’s creative rings from our extra rounds against EXG after the GvG.

SabreWalrus.8647:

Amongst the doom and gloom about orbageddon here, I hope I can bring some smiles with a video of one of Yippi’s creative rings from our extra rounds against EXG after the GvG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXggibhgVig

Why didn’t we think of that?!

GF vs ARK 8pm server

http://www.twitch.tv/rosserracer

If it’s not reliably controllable, what about the buffed team loses 2 players in a 20v20, or one in a 15v15? Or maybe have the GvG website indicate if the team had a buff during the match or did not?

Also, loved Vanz’s post

As was stated weeks ago, TUP will continue to GvG regardless. Try GvG’n a top guild without any of a class such as necro – it’s not cool :P But we did it, we went with who we had online. Went aswell or asbadly as one would expect when you just wizzy wig things last minute due to absences.

Hell our main GvG day is Thursday by which point my server could be many 1000s of points behind, thus quite a few % of HP potentially there – do we complain and/or bothered. Nope.

We GvG to challenge ourselves on a different level than just “how many” of a big zerg can you take.

The game is in it’s infancy. I’m not too fond of being pessimistic and knee jerk reactions. (That said it’s not a free pass to ANET to continue being kittenbags :-D) We are here for the longer term, future updates and developments could shorten that ofcourse, we aren’t sheep and certainly aren’t blind fanboyos. I remain optimistic of the way ahead.

Cya on the battlefield.

i had to delete my recording of the GF fight, too choppy, lots of upload/bandwidth problems on my part throughout the GvG, we will have another perspective uploaded shortly…

[GF] 4-2 [Ark]
good fight ark, our toughest so far… with more experience you will climb the leaderboards…

The next and possibly final episode will be delayed until monday or tuesday for various reasons, but mostly its what makes more sense. Dont be shocked if you dont see it saturday, its coming.

And yeah, I understand I might have a lil bit of responsability etc but i tried not to make it a hate rally call to quit the game, dont rly want to hurt a house that has given me much, even if i was spat in the face. Im not that kind of guy.

At any rate, if conditions change and fair matches can be celebrated consistently, the showdown will be back. But thats a tale for another time. As a gamer i welcome the change and chance to do my thing tbh, even if only for a couple months… this was a straw in the camels back situation rather than an overwhelming reason.

Anywayz, even though it may be the last GvG showdown for a while, I’m just wondering if Ogre, Sacrx, Pryda etc will be doing another GvG commentary stream like the Scnd vs VII.

-cheers-

i’m thinking our best case scenario is the Eternal JP doesnt get the orb buff.. i know ya gotta have a keep, but u only have to get past outer gate

EP will continue to GvG even if orbs not in our favor. thug life

Odinzu.9645:

EP will continue to GvG even if orbs not in our favor. thug life

GvG Hoedown: May the orbs be ever in your favor. A Southern take on The Hunger Games.

someone make it happen……

Hope you find something good, btw Ogre.

I still can’t comprehend the fact that they’re screwing us over so bad. Especially at this point in time when GvG is becoming an even bigger and more active branch in GW2.

Hope you don’t get too disappointed by what the devs do Ogre. In the end they must somehow make us able to GvG, if not then the WvW-team is chopping their leg off (not shooting themselves in the foot..) – and then I hope you come back with your videos.

Been great fun seeing your videos though Ogre, even though you’ve heard it before most likely; kudos for coming up with a new way to broaden and increase the interest in GvG among guilds and players in WvW.

Jinks.2057:

The worst part of all this is the fact the GvG scene is REALLY starting to take off in the NA.

Its not the end persay but we’ll have to see.

The day all 3 servers colaborate to nullify bloodlust for a GvG match is the day we win as a PvP scene

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Don’t let it die, and it won’t!

really sad to see ppl like orge quiting the game …
and so sad that anet ruins what the community builded up. i really hope all gvg guilds can find a solution together or anet just think about it again, really makes me angry that they try to push the solid core of wvw, the gvg guilds, out of the game
hope we all met in CU in a few years and anet learns about it

The GvG community will really only die out because WE the players let it. Sure poor decisions made by the developement team might make it more difficult for us, but again there are plenty of creative minds out there within this community that will eventually find ways for us to continue doing what we love so much. I’ve already seen some great ideas floating around in the forums like starting a GvG League when the league system gets implented. It’s ideas like this that continue to strengthen and unify this community despite what the devs are doing. Yes there might be a rough patch in the interim, but if we continue to thrive and grow as a community and overcome this adversity, someone will eventually take note.

I implore those who really do enjoy GvGs and this community to continue to strive and push for those truely great fights. The second we all begin to give up and let our community die out is the second we’ve lost this fight, and I for one am not about to quit.

steps off soap box

The only thing I’d love to ask of you guys if you collectively choose some lower tiered servers to coordinate this is have a chat with those server’s leadership before you mass transfer. I’m sure most would be happy with the influx of new blood, but it’s always good to get a green light/ cooperation first. It establishes respect and encourages cooperation.

My two cents.

Jayne.9251:

The only thing I’d love to ask of you guys if you collectively choose some lower tiered servers to coordinate this is have a chat with those server’s leadership before you mass transfer. I’m sure most would be happy with the influx of new blood, but it’s always good to get a green light/ cooperation first. It establishes respect and encourages cooperation.

My two cents.

Some very sage advice! I’m sure server natives may or may not appreciate a massive influx of people to their server without some kind of heads up first.

But then again, a server doesnt belong to anyone, the few that decide does kind of things could be saying something else than the rest of the server.

Not saying its a bad idea, I just always think that noone has anything to say about it and that everyone can play how and where they want as a server is noones property.

Odinzu.9645:

EP will continue to GvG even if orbs not in our favor. thug life

Most people will do that, but most of them won’t like doing it with buffs in their favor because it won’t be a legit win

This will probably be one of my last posts.

I still remember fighting vs people with 3 orbs and having none it was stupid. Guilds would actually be way too hard to kill even if that guild was not so great. When you had 1 orb only it was major difference.

That being said GVG is fairly done for. People saying we will continue. alot of guilds now is all kitten for score on gvgsite avoiding each other. Wont do gvg unless the exact 20 from guild etc. You expect them to do it with big disadvantage?.

Yes the community drove gvg after its creation. However you cant fight game mechanics. Also being a realists to inner guilds kittens makes this even worse. After all the first GVG RG vs sin. Was not even numbers we had about 27 they had 40+ or so but we never cared. However then it was made more official being even numbers, few rules which we know today.

The topic of making a gvg league will not work. Reason i thought about it back when playing. Also raniri from ecl wanted to do it after sfr. Why did it not happen. Alot of guilds dont just run 24/7 gvg they want to bomb zergs. Some of them even like playing points or having a random zerg during day to jump on for some kills. They said 3 leagues for EU / 2 for US. So thats still 9 servers so thats not even close to having 3 closed off servers to make a gvg league on.

Then the issue say RG or x guild go to 1 of the 3 servers but everyone wants to fight them. Then x guild that wants to fight x cant because on same server wanting to fight vs RG. It just dont work. Then add in fact they said all servers will play vs each other once. thats 6 other servers who wont have gvg community on them. One side holding the orbs? lol thats almost impossible and you expect specific guilds to just stand about waiting. Come on naive much.

Not to mention this is even before we get to the overall layout of servers. Top tiers more people bigger zergs/more guilds. The lower tiers where you would want to do this is way more casual and less numbers running around where in t1 is 100-80 man zergs to 20-50 man guilds. There is 2-5 man, soloers. Zergs of 30-50. It would be a massive destabilization of lower tiers. I can guarantee there would be people annoyed because of this and come ruin and interrupt your gvg. You will get trolls messing with the orb buffs.

Yes community needs to hold strong. Hold strong on what a cancer ridden gvg which will slowly annoy people to death. I would rather just shoot it in the head and be done. More hate on anet is required.

Move on or go around using siege and roleplaying like they want or zerging on pug commander. The underdog fighting vs orb buffed zerg. Since same reason kitten orbs was removed has still not been considered to why we putting them back in at basic level.

My 2 videos will be out tonight. my main one will be this weekend/next week cause of codec issues, thats my wvw/gvg one.

You can watch the whole story on these topics. I feel sorry for the people who still have hope the most.

Love Sacrx.

Disturbed.4685:

… but u only have to get past outer gate

actually, i’m pretty sure you need to own the keep to use it’s portal. as a JP camper i’ve been refused entry to the JP many a time by having our keep lost as i make a break for the portal.

looking forward to the videos, goodbye sac

Sacrx, stat disadvantages can be overcome in one way or another, especially at the windmill with guildbuffs available.
E— peen isn’t the #1 thing for everyone

People who avoid fights shouldnt GvG anyway, stat buffs or not.
The devs are being kittened as hell with this buff as I also remember fighting players with 3 orb buffs every day against vizunah, I actually quit GW2 because of the disapointment this game gave me. It’s slightly easier to take the buff now atleast, this does not justify the trash that comes from it.

Also if you go to EU silver, 9 servers with lots of space, you already have your blobs, guilds and roamers sitting there for the taking if you’re not GvGing.
Spread the “top” 9 guilds over each server and fill the other spots up with other guilds, tadaa most likely no queues and plenty of GvG matches if people didnt screw up with the nrs.
But yes if you go bronze you get boring matches

You quit the game already, no need to to make others quit aswell, we will quit ourselves if more aids gets spread to ruin the fun in this game, don’t need guiding from anyone.

Its rather disheartening to see one of the greats of the gvg community and gw2 in general post so negatively. However im with Esuni, you quit this game already. The cancerous attitude exhibited in your post isnt necessary. There are plenty of people who remember the original orb buff, accept that it sucks, but still have the will to carry on. We dont need you to tell us how kittened things will be. Please dont take this as me bashing you on any sort of level. You are a legend in this game along with your guild, but posts like that arent needed.

Who’s Sacrx? He important or something?

That’s some nuclear stuff sacrx.

And, most important, sad. It just confirm every single worst fear of the hardcore wvw community.

Can’t wait to see when the infos will start to flood the rest of the forums.

Nice vids Sacrx, pretty much confirmed all the stuff we’ve noticed the last 12 months.