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I find it weird that you would plan out everyones build for 1 specific strategy…
It’s pretty crucial to have a team that is very flexible build wise due to the constant flipping of maps. Some strategies and builds work better on some maps than others… Also, if you’re trying to find people who are really good at their one specific class, i don’t think you should be deciding their build…. Unless you claim to be a master of all classes…
| Smitê – Lvl 80 Guardian | Arraxie – Lvl 80 Ele |
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Dan, I do see myself as a “Master of all classes”. I also find it strange that you denounce my strategy (despite the profession responsibilities changing for every map) without being more specific. If you’re going to criticize my strategy, don’t over generalize. I don’t make a habit of responding on these forums, so if anyone has issues my set up, I don’t suggest you voice them here.
Allow me to be more specific.
No one comp is good against all comps. This is just a fact. Having a starting comp to build off is important, yes. However to say it is an unbeatable comp and unbeatable strategy is just silly and results in people less inclined to respond, which is disappointing for me as I want more competition :p
The thing with some of your builds is they’re a little outdated, or frankly suboptimal. The elementalist builds, for instance, are not going to be effective for what your comp wants. Ele back point is not effective anymore and D/D with Clerics/Soldiers for far point assault is also….suboptimal
You are basically relying on sustained damage in a team fight with no burst or condi pressure. Which, right now, is to put it bluntly terrible. You need burst or condi cleave or both, and you have little of either. A Mesmer and an engi does not get you off the hook for this.
Also, Mesmer without GS right now is also suboptimal on terms of damage. A lot of mesmers are running GS/S+F or GS/Staff …
I hope you find a team and I’m glad more are joining, but I think your post is a bit…off :/
However if you need someone to test your strats against when you get a team send me a message
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DXIEdge, bluntly stating that my comp is “suboptimal” by simply calling it “terrible” and citing that other Mesmers use GS, does not come close to being more specific. It seems you failed to read my second strategy before you decided it would be worth while to post here. I don’t appreciate people who take it apon themselves to type out a reply that claims to have value, but that essential says “I’m right you’re wrong”.
To everyone else. Unless you’re expressing your interest in my team (and there are better ways to do this), I politely ask that you don’t reply to my post at all. I’ve made it clear that I’m not interested in theory crafting, so stop cluttering my post.
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PS: A “good” theo-crafted team comp won’t assure success, the mental state and syg of the team matter as well, and It will be hard to preform at high level tPvP while googling highest bridges after ALOT of criticism over TS. Even if this second job is only 6h per week.
What is this north korean? The guy is free to fun his team as he pleases. You don’t have to join, and i’m sure he doesn’t care about your opinions sounds like y’all are just wasting time and kittening just to kitten.
I found it interesting that you asked people to get over THEIR pride
He isn’t opposed to opinions. He came up with build he thought were optimal for the team comp and current meta. If you have an opinion, bring that up and supply facts why X would be better than his supplied Y.
Dan, I do see myself as a “Master of all classes”. I also find it strange that you denounce my strategy (despite the profession responsibilities changing for every map) without being more specific. If you’re going to criticize my strategy, don’t over generalize. I don’t make a habit of responding on these forums, so if anyone has issues my set up, I don’t suggest you voice them here.
See, you’re taking it the wrong way, i was expressing my concerns with your ideas/strats because from my side i don’t see how it could work, which is why i brought it up, for you to explain how it could. As someone who may be interested in a team, i’d rather know what i’m getting into before deciding whether i want in or not.
Now, from my experiences with fighting against you once or twice, i know you’re a pretty good player, but to claim you’re a master of classes? Now, ill just give an example, you mention that the engineers should be generally in charge of holding a point right? Why are they using grenades then? Wouldn’t bombs get the job done a lot more effectively?
Just giving my 2 cents….You can choose to just totally ignore me since you seem to not take criticism too well, but if you’re gonna take full control of a teams ideas, strats, builds, you best make sure you know these strats and builds are effective if you want any chance of winning games.
| Smitê – Lvl 80 Guardian | Arraxie – Lvl 80 Ele |
Ehmry Bay
Did your team fill already Ruin?
The strategy/builds have gone through several heavy revisions.
I disagree with your current build for guardian. I play bunker guardian most often for my team against teams in the upper 500 on the leaderboards. I have reached Champion Paragon and I understand that some builds work better for different people. However, with the new meta, Guardians need more survivability against conditions or they will get destroyed. Now I understand that each shout will get rid of 2 conditions plus the virtue. But if you have 10 stacks of condi you just used all of your utilities to get rid of them, that isn’t good against a team that can stack them again. With the current meta, Contemplation of purity is unfortunately a most with a stack say 10 conditions from 2 necros and a ranger or engineer. It’s almost impossible to survive.
Also, the mace has become an invaluable tool with the boost of 250 healing on use in the traitline, which I personally believe can provide fantastic boosts and healing to you and allies. Last, tomb of courage is a nice skill, but renewed focus is far better with the current beta because it resets your virtues giving you double the condi removal if you have the trait absolute resolution. My final comment is the use of sanctuary. Although this skill may seem frustrating due to the long cooldown, it is invaluable in pushing people off the point and keeping it neutral or even helping you survive longer. I believe it is a must for most guardian builds. I understand the logic of your build, but with all the conditions slight alterations would benefit it more.
I’m unclear as to why you say shouts don’t work in the current meta. You have the condi-cleanse for when you need it, and it’s not selfish like meditations that only the user the benefits, I.E. Contemplation of Purity which will turn all of your conditions to boons on a 60 (untraited) cool-down. Where save yourselves (also on a 60 sekittenraited cool-down) will remove all conditions from allies. Granted they are moved over the guardian, it’s still the better trade off imo. Alleviate the pressure, so your team can better apply pressure.
You are the bunker, you are the support. Even if you are getting stacked and re-stacked that means that the other team is focusing on the bunker and not on your DPS where if your DPS is good enough they won’t be alive long enough to capitalize on downing the bunker. Try and also remember the amount of rez utility available to the meta build; Spirit, Banner, Signet, etc.
It’s cool an all to stay alive as long as possible as a bunker but if you focus to much on yourself, your team will suffer for it. There was a reason Azshene ran the build he did. His team left him alone for most of the game to bunker mid, they were putting pressure elsewhere and left him to survive or die until they had time to back him up. They weren’t using the guardian for his support abilities, they were using it for the self survival-ability hence the selfish guardian build. It’s really going to come down to your teams style of play.
Now on to sanctuary. The skill is very good, however, the sheer amount of stability in the meta makes it counter-intuitive. You throw sanctuary down on a point to get a rez, secure a stomp, etc. It’s most likely going to be negated by some form of stability or an equal equivalent. This skill fell hard out of the EU meta due the rise of warriors, small form engies, and plague forming necromancers who will just use their stability skills and you just wasted a 120 second cool-down.
Not every team just has their bunker baby sit middle point why the rest of the team pushes far point. The guardian is a major asset in team-fights. He should go where the team fight is. One of your dps can 1v1 and secure mid just as easily as a guardian can.
In closing, i’m not bashing you, your opinion, or your style of play, i’m clearly stating as to why his guardian build is still very viable in the current meta. For it’s meant to team fight and not be a place holder.
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