Guild Wars 2

With new releases, there’s always a lot of predictable activity. Like candy corn going up after the Halloween announcement today.

But there’s also some really really weird stuff that simply does not make sense to me yet. There appears to be some heavy speculation that people will be mostly in Orr during Halloween, which to date cannot be explained with the info that has been released. Look at items such as ghost pepper, orrian truffle, lotus root, saffron, and ancient wood planks plummeting in demand. As far as I can recall, the haunted doors were, at least last year, not found in Orr, but in lower level zones. Yet the lower level mats harvested from places where these doors could be found, like iron ingots or hard wood planks, are making downward spiraling supply jumps.

Could someone please make sense of this?

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]

“The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]”

I am in 100% invite me. ROFL

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

Why do people have a hard time fathoming the fact that different people can independently come to the same conclusion? Peter Higgs and Francois Englert started hypothesizing the now-named Higgs particle independently. Compared to that, the correlations people come up for the TP is so utterly simple.

Looks like Candy Corn shot up a ton.

Was it because of my super exclusive TP trading guild, The Elitist Quaggan. intentionally manipulating the market?

Maybe so. Or it could have to do with the content preview…

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]

I hope this is true. My new goal is to warrant an invite.

Evilbeavers.3964:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]

I hope this is true. My new goal is to warrant an invite.

I’ve heard invites require ingame gold more than 100K and screenshots of you personally buying then reselling multiple precursors to spike the market price. As well as other nefarious and devious trashing of someone else’s profits. ^^

probably just some ppl who speculated, thinking that chef would go up to 500 crafting lvl this update when they saw this was not the case they sold their investment and moved on to greener pastures. Since orr is the main area where 400 lvl crafting ingredients come from.

I’m glad I saved 5K corn from last year – made a nice profit today!

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

Goldman Sacks

Behellagh.1468:

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

Goldman Sacks

I like it!
Goldman Sacks [GDP]

It’s a tarp!

Would like to know how many candy one needs … considering they dropped a mass last time.

wait…i may be a noob here but why did candy corn shoot up? wouldn’t more people have it during the event? Shouldn’t the price of it plummet?

UrMom.4205:

wait…i may be a noob here but why did candy corn shoot up? wouldn’t more people have it during the event? Shouldn’t the price of it plummet?

They announced things like 20 slot bags. Something most people can always use more of for alts and such, purchase for candy corn (and likely some other hard to get item trololol). Items like that will cause the price to spike intially, and will hold it above stupid low levels like last year, because the bags will always have value.

They are getting much better about realizing that if you throw millions of an item in the game, there better be something worth using it on.

Except for wigs, dresses, tiaras, aetherblade keys…. oh wait….. hmmm…..

Evilbeavers.3964:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]

I hope this is true. My new goal is to warrant an invite.

I can assure you that this Guild doesnt exist.

And we are currently NOT recruiting.

Rennoko.5731:

UrMom.4205:

wait…i may be a noob here but why did candy corn shoot up? wouldn’t more people have it during the event? Shouldn’t the price of it plummet?

They announced things like 20 slot bags. Something most people can always use more of for alts and such, purchase for candy corn (and likely some other hard to get item trololol). Items like that will cause the price to spike intially, and will hold it above stupid low levels like last year, because the bags will always have value.

They are getting much better about realizing that if you throw millions of an item in the game, there better be something worth using it on.

Except for wigs, dresses, tiaras, aetherblade keys…. oh wait….. hmmm…..

Please don’t forget Bloodstone Dust….

@Everyone.

I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.

cranked.3812:

@Everyone.

I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.

I know, they all reacted on the first guy that commented on my post. It was too much fun doing that than staying on topic. Granted, one guy stayed on topic though, and speculated people sold their cooking stock as a result of there probably not being ascended cooking in this patch. It doesn’t explain the other materials though, but whatever. Let’s see what this patch brings: if it contains lots of people concentrating in Orr, we’ll know there was another nice lil’ leak.

Buttercup.5871:

cranked.3812:

@Everyone.

I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.

I know, they all reacted on the first guy that commented on my post. It was too much fun doing that than staying on topic. Granted, one guy stayed on topic though, and speculated people sold their cooking stock as a result of there probably not being ascended cooking in this patch. It doesn’t explain the other materials though, but whatever. Let’s see what this patch brings: if it contains lots of people concentrating in Orr, we’ll know there was another nice lil’ leak.

every patch has had a ‘nice little leak’. i think at this point it’s a given.

Buttercup.5871:

cranked.3812:

@Everyone.

I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.

I know, they all reacted on the first guy that commented on my post. It was too much fun doing that than staying on topic. Granted, one guy stayed on topic though, and speculated people sold their cooking stock as a result of there probably not being ascended cooking in this patch. It doesn’t explain the other materials though, but whatever. Let’s see what this patch brings: if it contains lots of people concentrating in Orr, we’ll know there was another nice lil’ leak.

Actually, the first like 8 posts were all tin foil hat posts, but either way. I think you have/had a good question.

Buttercup.5871:

cranked.3812:

@Everyone.

I have no idea why any of you are saying the OP is assuming there is some sort of manipulation on the TP. That is not at all how I read it.

I know, they all reacted on the first guy that commented on my post. It was too much fun doing that than staying on topic. Granted, one guy stayed on topic though, and speculated people sold their cooking stock as a result of there probably not being ascended cooking in this patch. It doesn’t explain the other materials though, but whatever. Let’s see what this patch brings: if it contains lots of people concentrating in Orr, we’ll know there was another nice lil’ leak.

My accusation of a guild manipulating the prices of the items in questions (or any other items) seems to be unfounded.

Clearly no such guild exists.

Also, if anybody bothered to actually check the prices of the items in question, they would have noticed that not a single one of them actually plummeted significantly in price after the halloween patch announcement.

Connecting an unlikely increase in population density in Orr during Halloween with a non-existant decrease of demand in orr-grown resources and blaming leaked information for it, is, well….

I toss my Tin Foil Hat to you.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]

The Aurora Glade Chapter is open for business.

Updated my signature.

Wanze.8410:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Evilbeavers.3964:

Wanze.8410:

Its a dedicated guild manipulating the market.

Would make sense to me.

We need a forum name for this devious guild of nefariousness. I doubt they would ever become publicly known due to the sheer secrecy each member is devoted to.

The guild is called Tin Foil [HATS]

The Aurora Glade Chapter is open for business.

Updated my signature.

What Guild ? &%^&&*$ %%$#++ (secret handshake)

It’s just more people harvesting due to ascended weapon.

They are already in orr more now.

Wanze.8410:

Also, if anybody bothered to actually check the prices of the items in question, they would have noticed that not a single one of them actually plummeted significantly in price after the halloween patch announcement.

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I toss my Tin Foil Hat to you.

That wasn’t what I said now, was it? I never mentioned a single price. If you want to ridicule someone, at least do it properly, lest you ridicule yourself one day.

So allow me to take that hat of yours and throw it right back at you. I’ll wait for the official Halloween announcement and see whether there’s anything to this, tyvm. Your comments were not helpful in the slightest, but thanks for making it crystal clear that it was never your intention to do so in the first place.

Where my original post was framed open, asking for someone to make sense of something I said I could not, your immediate response was an attempt to ridicule my post – which you’ve shown not to have properly read in the first place, and which you admit was framed only for that very purpose. The next time I see a post like that coming from you, whether it is in my thread or someone else’s, I’ll just press report – knowing now the kind of person I’m dealing with.

I think candy corn would be a horrible investment — remember the price after the first Halloween event? You couldn’t get rid of the stuff. An hour of farming was more than enough to get a full stack of the stuff.

Let people gobble it up and raise the price — just remember to dump your candy corn as fast as you can when the event starts .

juno.1840:

I think candy corn would be a horrible investment — remember the price after the first Halloween event? You couldn’t get rid of the stuff. An hour of farming was more than enough to get a full stack of the stuff.

Let people gobble it up and raise the price — just remember to dump your candy corn as fast as you can when the event starts .

Candy Corn is a horrible investment.

The key thing here is opportunity cost.

Time is money and bank space is money.

If you have candy corn stacks take up all your bank space and alt inventory space it’s not worth the investment.

Of course, Candy Corn would have been a great short-term flipping item (and by short time I mean no more within the hour of the announcement).

But if you have been hoarding Candy Corn for a year waiting for it to jump from a few copper each to 1s each, you haven’t really made much in retrospect.

juno.1840:

I think candy corn would be a horrible investment — remember the price after the first Halloween event? You couldn’t get rid of the stuff. An hour of farming was more than enough to get a full stack of the stuff.

Let people gobble it up and raise the price — just remember to dump your candy corn as fast as you can when the event starts .

You seem to think Anet learned nothing from the first time around. I would bet the corn is harder to get this year from the open world, and they have already announced new, and nice, items you can buy with corn, which will likely cost a ton of corn. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see the corn stay valuable through the entire event and go up once it is complete.

Buttercup.5871:

Wanze.8410:

Also, if anybody bothered to actually check the prices of the items in question, they would have noticed that not a single one of them actually plummeted significantly in price after the halloween patch announcement.

[snip]
I toss my Tin Foil Hat to you.

That wasn’t what I said now, was it? I never mentioned a single price. If you want to ridicule someone, at least do it properly, lest you ridicule yourself one day.

So allow me to take that hat of yours and throw it right back at you. I’ll wait for the official Halloween announcement and see whether there’s anything to this, tyvm. Your comments were not helpful in the slightest, but thanks for making it crystal clear that it was never your intention to do so in the first place.

Where my original post was framed open, asking for someone to make sense of something I said I could not, your immediate response was an attempt to ridicule my post – which you’ve shown not to have properly read in the first place, and which you admit was framed only for that very purpose. The next time I see a post like that coming from you, whether it is in my thread or someone else’s, I’ll just press report – knowing now the kind of person I’m dealing with.

Well, you snipped out the part of my post when you quoted me, where i talked about decrease of demand. Price fluctuation is also an indicator or supply and demand changes.

Where exactly does the heavy speculation about a population increase in Orr during Halloween happen?

Can you elaborate what you think is a really, really weird drop in demand for the items Safron, Lotus, Ghost Pepper and Orrian Truffle?

They are all ingredients in popular food recipes, so some people cook alot of it to make some coin.

Actually, my theory of a dedicated guild or a single player being responsible for it makes far more sense than your theory of alot of people being in Orr, come Halloween.

Rennoko.5731:

juno.1840:

I think candy corn would be a horrible investment — remember the price after the first Halloween event? You couldn’t get rid of the stuff. An hour of farming was more than enough to get a full stack of the stuff.

Let people gobble it up and raise the price — just remember to dump your candy corn as fast as you can when the event starts .

You seem to think Anet learned nothing from the first time around. I would bet the corn is harder to get this year from the open world, and they have already announced new, and nice, items you can buy with corn, which will likely cost a ton of corn. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see the corn stay valuable through the entire event and go up once it is complete.

I don’t seem to think that… I outright do.

If candy corn becomes a rare commodity, expect huge complaints in the forums. Look at the recent “Miya” items like “Miya’s Wig”. You couldn’t destroy those things faster than they filled your inventory. How about the candy and dragonfest chests… I finally purged those the other week, tired of waiting to make a massive “killing” in the market.

But by all means, please buy up the candy corn so I can sell mine when the event starts for major profit.

The dragon-chests become much more valuable because of the ability to sell those skins on the TP. I still have about 1000 and the price continues to rise on them. I will hold on a bit longer and sell then.

Completely off topic, but has anyone see how high the 1 hour foods have gone? Some of those were between 5-10 silver, and many are over 20 silver now…. too bad they are so expensive to make as to be unprofitable, and don’t drop any more.

It was kind of obvious that the event currency for a holiday event would tick up in demand as the holiday approaches. So I don’t consider this as insider trading.

Wanze.8410:

Buttercup.5871:

Wanze.8410:

Also, if anybody bothered to actually check the prices of the items in question, they would have noticed that not a single one of them actually plummeted significantly in price after the halloween patch announcement.

[snip]
I toss my Tin Foil Hat to you.

That wasn’t what I said now, was it? I never mentioned a single price. If you want to ridicule someone, at least do it properly, lest you ridicule yourself one day.

So allow me to take that hat of yours and throw it right back at you. I’ll wait for the official Halloween announcement and see whether there’s anything to this, tyvm. Your comments were not helpful in the slightest, but thanks for making it crystal clear that it was never your intention to do so in the first place.

Where my original post was framed open, asking for someone to make sense of something I said I could not, your immediate response was an attempt to ridicule my post – which you’ve shown not to have properly read in the first place, and which you admit was framed only for that very purpose. The next time I see a post like that coming from you, whether it is in my thread or someone else’s, I’ll just press report – knowing now the kind of person I’m dealing with.

Well, you snipped out the part of my post when you quoted me, where i talked about decrease of demand. Price fluctuation is also an indicator or supply and demand changes.

Where exactly does the heavy speculation about a population increase in Orr during Halloween happen?

Can you elaborate what you think is a really, really weird drop in demand for the items Safron, Lotus, Ghost Pepper and Orrian Truffle?

They are all ingredients in popular food recipes, so some people cook alot of it to make some coin.

Actually, my theory of a dedicated guild or a single player being responsible for it makes far more sense than your theory of alot of people being in Orr, come Halloween.

Around 7 October demand dipped by approximately 30 to 40 percent for these items. Supply and demand for these items are huge, so we’re talking big numbers here. Demand for them usually does not move so heavily, and certainly not all at the same time, unless there’s a very good reason for it. I am looking for that reason.

Buttercup.5871:

Around 7 October demand dipped by approximately 30 to 40 percent for these items. Supply and demand for these items are huge, so we’re talking big numbers here. Demand for them usually does not move so heavily, and certainly not all at the same time, unless there’s a very good reason for it. I am looking for that reason.

Perhaps some large volume traders were cancelling old buy orders to free up gold for other investments.

Buttercup.5871:

Wanze.8410:

Buttercup.5871:

Wanze.8410:

Also, if anybody bothered to actually check the prices of the items in question, they would have noticed that not a single one of them actually plummeted significantly in price after the halloween patch announcement.

[snip]
I toss my Tin Foil Hat to you.

That wasn’t what I said now, was it? I never mentioned a single price. If you want to ridicule someone, at least do it properly, lest you ridicule yourself one day.

So allow me to take that hat of yours and throw it right back at you. I’ll wait for the official Halloween announcement and see whether there’s anything to this, tyvm. Your comments were not helpful in the slightest, but thanks for making it crystal clear that it was never your intention to do so in the first place.

Where my original post was framed open, asking for someone to make sense of something I said I could not, your immediate response was an attempt to ridicule my post – which you’ve shown not to have properly read in the first place, and which you admit was framed only for that very purpose. The next time I see a post like that coming from you, whether it is in my thread or someone else’s, I’ll just press report – knowing now the kind of person I’m dealing with.

Well, you snipped out the part of my post when you quoted me, where i talked about decrease of demand. Price fluctuation is also an indicator or supply and demand changes.

Where exactly does the heavy speculation about a population increase in Orr during Halloween happen?

Can you elaborate what you think is a really, really weird drop in demand for the items Safron, Lotus, Ghost Pepper and Orrian Truffle?

They are all ingredients in popular food recipes, so some people cook alot of it to make some coin.

Actually, my theory of a dedicated guild or a single player being responsible for it makes far more sense than your theory of alot of people being in Orr, come Halloween.

Around 7 October demand dipped by approximately 30 to 40 percent for these items. Supply and demand for these items are huge, so we’re talking big numbers here. Demand for them usually does not move so heavily, and certainly not all at the same time, unless there’s a very good reason for it. I am looking for that reason.

And this is where you are simply wrong because this alleged dip in demand by 30-40% didnt happen to any of those items at any point in the last 7 days. Maybe you are interpreting the graphs on spidy wrong.

You can go on and look for a reason for something that didnt happen.

I am off to “adjust” the prices of items that nobody cares about.

I want to one day have enough gold to do something like this and then watch the forums to see what speculation surfaces.

Evilbeavers.3964:

I want to one day have enough gold to do something like this and then watch the forums to see what speculation surfaces.

One time a guy got bored and bought up the whole supply of potatoes on the tp.

It was hilarious.