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Posted by: PraetorMortis.8610

PraetorMortis.8610

For several encounters in multiple dungeons, one of the most effective tactics is the Stack and Smack.

By stacking together in certain areas, a party can use line of sight to force all enemies, both ranged and melee into one close group thus allowing damage to hit them all and kill them quickly. Additionally, by staying together, it is easier for allies to revive each other, share agro and maximize blinds, blocks, shields, reflects, etc.

I have noticed that the problem here is the term stack. So for those confused, let me clarify:

A stack is in one spot like a stack of coins. A pile is close together but not necessarily on top of each other. When someone says “Stack here” they don’t mean near here, around here, or way over there. They mean stack here, on this one spot, not any other spot.

I hope this helps.

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Posted by: Young Somalia.1706

Young Somalia.1706

Everyone in this forum knows that. Post in PHP or GD or spam it in map chat in game. You’s just preachin’ to the choir here, boy!

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Posted by: TKiller.6829

TKiller.6829

Hey, he’s at least thinking in the right direction.

Defeated by packet loss.

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

He is slowly turning to the dark side …

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Should mentioned that stacking isnt an exploit. However in some cases an exploit involves stacking. Lots people seem to get a bit mixed up with exploits and stacking.

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

Stooperdale.3560

“A stack is in one spot like a stack of coins. A pile is close together but not necessarily on top of each other. When someone says “Stack here” they don’t mean near here, around here, or way over there. They mean stack here, on this one spot, not any other spot.

I hope this helps."

The purpose of the stack is keep the mobs in a kill zone for maximum dps. It is not the purpose of the stack to group all the characters within the high damage aoe attacks from enemies. It is perfectly good play for squishy classes to break off from the stack as long the mobs remain in the kill zone.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

Ah yes stacking. The bane of fun.

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Posted by: Emanuel.9781

Emanuel.9781

Ah yes stacking. The bane of fun.

Mom said it’s my turn to use condition builds in dungeons today!

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

Mom said it’s my turn to use condition builds in dungeons today!

I was playing a zerker for like a year, but I just changed to Pvt Hammer out of spite.

I hope you are happy.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

Hammer is awesome, keep up with the fun.

I mean it.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

I like stacking. Makes things fun.

But my favorite stack is a stack of Oreos.

[ARES]
And all who stood by and did nothing, who are they to criticize the sacrifices of others?
Our blood has bought their lives.

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Posted by: Tree.3916

Tree.3916

Or a fat stack of cash

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Or I guess stacks of fine t6 mats.
unfortunately cash doesn’t stack all that high :x

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Posted by: Broadicea.8294

Broadicea.8294

stacks on stacks on stacks on stacks

Retired. Too many casuals.

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

By the way, that thread is still going. Oh god, I might have done CoE and AC like 2000 times each, what kind of exploiter am I?
… let me stack some cookies in my stomach to forget the misery.
Can’t type at this time.

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Posted by: Tree.3916

Tree.3916

I sometimes stack in game when but it can be
Hard sometimes because the bosses
Attack and my face just
Takes the damage. But without clerics gear,
Everytime I get hit I die to the melee
Attacks. In order to remedy
This problem, I change my
Skills and gear before every boss
Encounter to accommodate the team.

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

Oh please I beg you do not make atse’s posting style a trend

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Posted by: Mesket.5728

Mesket.5728

Stop!

Hammer time

Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.

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Posted by: guanlongwucaii.3162

guanlongwucaii.3162

I sometimes stack in game when but it can be
Hard sometimes because the bosses
Attack and my face just
Takes the damage. But without clerics gear,
Everytime I get hit I die to the melee
Attacks. In order to remedy
This problem, I change my
Skills and gear before every boss
Encounter to accommodate the team.

you are missing the weird
punctuation spaces .

and , i use sentinal gere . try it out .

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Posted by: Raven.3248

Raven.3248

You probably PUG all the time. Must of had some really bad experience’s if you post kitten like this. LOL. Anyways if you want a real tip just run full zerk

Just another Arah veteran

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Oh please I beg you do not make atse’s posting style a trend

WHY DO YOU SHOUT YOUR BUILD IN MY FACE SILLY YOU
Dat signature.

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Posted by: Dolan.3071

Dolan.3071

GUYS, GUYS! We’ve been doing it wrong this whole time…

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

Oh please I beg you do not make atse’s posting style a trend

WHY DO YOU SHOUT YOUR BUILD IN MY FACE SILLY YOU
Dat signature.

I’m a more powerful Sith lord than you are
My master has taught me the way to great powers

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

I shall destroy the wicked dictatorship of elitists…
… when I’m done abusing that build, I was so sick of LH you can’t imagine.
All hail the pizza lord. Mushrooms.

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Posted by: Rieselle.5079

Rieselle.5079

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

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Posted by: Bright.9160

Bright.9160

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

There are mechanics to punish it. The thing is that mobs don’t have the time to use them before they die if you stack and DPS correctly. With some exceptions in Arah where you can still potentially wipe if you get wrecked by some illusionist…

Before you say ‘well, then mobs shoulds have more hp’, or ‘then players should deal less damage’ or ‘then make them hit faster’, you got to realize that whenever you make suggestions to punish speedrunners, you’re hurting casuals and PUGs 4 times harder with whatever hurdle you put in the way.

As for bodyblocking coming back, with the LoS mechanic, it still wouldn’t do much. Bodyblocking worked really well in GW1 because you had tanks that could use those mechanics to ball up foes really effectively. In DoA by pull-throughs and in UW/FoW by using wall tricks. In GW2 with the lack of tanks, no one is seriously going to use that technique because just LoS’ing and stacking is equally efficient and it doesn’t require you to sacrifice a team member to be ‘tanky’.

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Posted by: Tesh.5703

Tesh.5703

ANet is mostly worried if you’re trying to squeeze an inch in on them.

Killing is just another way of living

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Posted by: colesy.8490

colesy.8490

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

Riiiight, and I find it stupid that a PVT fem norn in the t3 thong armour can be tankier than a zerker human in t3 cultural heavy.

THEY SHOULD TOTALLY PUNISH USING PVT WITH LIGHTER LOOKING ARMOURS

And this is why I despise the average player mentality in this game. “I don’t like it, so get rid please”. I don’t like non-power based, non-offensive gear in PvE but I don’t go round asking for it to be removed, even though it should.

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Posted by: Mesket.5728

Mesket.5728

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

Main reason i don’t do wvw even though open pvp is my favorite thing in every mmo since 1995. I took for granted this game was going to have this.

Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.

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Posted by: Casmurro.9046

Casmurro.9046

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

With bodyblocking the zerg events would be impossible to do. Imagine a crowded Lions Arch, you won’t be able to walk around because you will be bumping on everyone.

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Posted by: Mesket.5728

Mesket.5728

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

With bodyblocking the zerg events would be impossible to do. Imagine a crowded Lions Arch, you won’t be able to walk around because you will be bumping on everyone.

body blocking turns off in many games while out of combat. It only turns on when you are in combat.

Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.

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Posted by: Bright.9160

Bright.9160

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

With bodyblocking the zerg events would be impossible to do. Imagine a crowded Lions Arch, you won’t be able to walk around because you will be bumping on everyone.

body blocking turns off in many games while out of combat. It only turns on when you are in combat.

Not to mention, body blocking only worked against enemy players/foes in GW1, so this would be a non-issue in GW2.

I mean, even if it didn’t, what developer in their right mind would implement a body-block system in cities?…

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Posted by: Ethics.4519

Ethics.4519

I miss bodyblocking from GW1. Stacking looks stupid. ANet should at least put some mechanics to punish it.

With bodyblocking the zerg events would be impossible to do. Imagine a crowded Lions Arch, you won’t be able to walk around because you will be bumping on everyone.

body blocking turns off in many games while out of combat. It only turns on when you are in combat.

Not to mention, body blocking only worked against enemy players/foes in GW1, so this would be a non-issue in GW2.

I mean, even if it didn’t, what developer in their right mind would implement a body-block system in cities?…

A realistic one!

/wave @ bright
Ethics waves at bright. Atse body blocks bright. Wave absorbed.

RIP in peace Robert