Guild Wars 2

Its been a while already since I want to post my feelings/ideas about the speed runs inside the dungeons, here in GW2.

Time ago, before dungeons were more friendly, I totally understood the idea of skipping several fights inside the dungeons. Some “trash mobs” combination was simply too nasty to fight against and could took lots of tries.

Since I’ve returned to the game (been playing since first month of the release) from a 9 months break (got sick of Scarlett’s schemes) I found out that dungeons were easier, bosses had less health and trash mobs were more easier to kill as well… But still people do speed runs all the time, it’s quite hard to find a group that actually wants, or know, how to fight the entire dungeon’s minion.

I could understand that sometimes it’s just matter of time, they are too busy doing something or they just want to clear the easiest paths for some gold farming… But then why those players joins in LFG posts that says “Casual run” or even “NOT SPEED RUN OR SKIPPING”. (Yes, I’ve tried even in caps and ppl lookign for spped-runs still join)

I do speed runs from time to time with a friend, since he sometimes do full clears in dungeons with me, but each time I have to post in LFG there’s always that one player that never speaks, that skip while no one skips, and that insult those who die just because he (that same one) aggro’ed some adds while running.

This post is, for sure, not a post to find a solution but just to make a petition for those speed runners to read carefully the posts in LFG and make sure to enter in a group that could fill her/his expectations without messing with the group’s idea.

Like most of the players in the game I have done all the dungeons already (while they were a pain to run) but now I enjoy taking my time playing and doing full clears, even if the chances to get decent loot are lower, I’m there for the fun… I took my chances each time I go inside a dungeon and love the ideas of swapping traits and using different utilities skill to overcome some challenges on each run. For me a “casual run” is not a speed run, all zerkers with attkpow high and know how to dodge… I admire those who can run a dungeon alone ( I even tried with my engineer in running one, CM path 3, but couldn’t kill Vallog) but for me a casual run means “don’t bring problems and have fun”.

I hope its not too much to ask for those speed-runners you just go inside dungs to make fun of people or make a mess, troll, yell and then leave. Just take a bit of time reading the LFG specifications instead of jumping in one group that its only missing one player to go… Maybe that group just want to chill, practice, do a full clear or is teaching a new member how to run the dungeons in the most friendly enviroment.

Thanks all for your time.

This same thread gets posted at least once a week now.

Jesus Christ. BINGO.

The guy is right, though. Respect lfgs. Just like people shouldn’t join " berserker, ping gear, exp" lfg when they have no idea about what they’re doing, people shouldn’t join first timers LFGs and act like it’s a speedrun.

@oxtred
You know that’s not gonna happen? This is a problem with GW2 in general, people just don’t have respect for each other.

I could complain about people playing kittenty classes in open world (basically any class that is not elementalist), using gear which is not zerk and not using the appropriate meta build.

Or people joining a dungeon group when they are clearly not wanted and don’t meet the requirements.

But I don’t do it because it’s useless and there is nothing to be done about it. That’s just how people are. Makes me angry when breach fails yet another time (also vinewrath), but well it’s impossible to teach a chicken how to fly.

Kick the guys who want to skip when you explicitly say that it shouldn’t be done.

I don’t know what you’re trying to teach me, I’m just saying the guy has a point.

oxtred.7658:

I don’t know what you’re trying to teach me, I’m just saying the guy has a point.

I was just trying to say that it’s useless to think about people not respecting the LFG because it will not happen.

The stuff after the first sentence was not directly meant to you, but just an example how player respect each other. Sorry, maybe it was too late and I should’ve made myself clearer.

@FlawlezZ

Thanks for the aclaratory, yesterday I saw the answers in the thread and I really wanted to post something about but I got somehow confused with your post and decided to sleep on it until today. But never is too late and I really thank you for taking the time.

I do understand your example, Its kinda hard to find people that respect other players not only in this game, but in all the games. (Specially since everyone is extremely brave behind the safety of the computer). But I couldnt stay quiet in this matter. And a post in here is one of the few options that I could use to keep this fight on and, maybe is a fool’s errand, try to make things right.

@Evapor

Can´t be sure if your reply was in the best of the mood or maybe juts a reply of someone who is sick of reading this kind of posts, but I´m gonna take it as “the best of the mood”; I´m glad that this kind of post is at least once per week on the forums so people can read it not only from me but from several players with the same ideas.

I agree. People should read LFG posts instead of joining right away. Nothing ticks me off more than some random person with the wrong class(Ex: Ranger/nec/mes/whatever we don’t need more of) join after we post "49/50, Ele/Engi/Thief/War only) on a fractal or something. They then get >:O and (Q.Q) when they’re kicked by the team within 5-10 seconds of ENTERING fractals(They could have changed characters to one requested in the LFG post) and then the PM wars erupt.

PUG’s have either no respect, or don’t know how to read.

One thing you can do is post your Requirements Before the path/lvl to help mitigate these problems.

Ex:
(Original) = 49/50 LF: EXP Zerk War/ele/mes/engi/ranger 70+ AR speed

(Now) =
War/ele/mes/engi/ranger-Zerk EXP, 70+ AR 49/50

I noticed that people tend to just join once seeing numbers.. Like path numbers, Fract lvls, etc.. and don’t bother to read the rest. So make it blatantly obvious what you’re looking for first b4 they read the path/stage.

This is a common occurrence in gw2, sadly – people always seem to join lfg groups without reading the message and some even complain when questioned about it. I guess you can report them for lfg abuse, kick and move on, but it does leave a bad taste in your mouth when this happens…

ketchup.2783:

Zerk is nice but it doesn’t guarantee a person who knows his/her class, the dungeon, blast finishers, mitigation at the right time. You can be zerk and inefficient. Just sayin’.

thats what exp is there for

Yeh you see the biggest problem is that people don’t read, or they do read but they just don’t care anyway.