Guild Wars 2

Everyone’s on the edge of their seat, wanting to know how they rank.

wait for it……….

I hear it’s coming with the fractal leader-boards.

They postponed it because they want to focus on fixing the rewards first. Then they postponed that as well, because fixing Shockwave Skipper takes precedence. Then they introduced the patch that increased decreased ascended chest drop rates, so they have to fix that first. ETA: Guild Wars 3 2nd Addon

Welcome to GW2 were the mechanics suck and the rewards don’t matter.

Of course they are coming, and soon! What do you think, the leaderboards were just a decoy to hide the ugliness of the Fractured update and removing player progression?!

Never forget.

What leaderboards? Half the population is at 50 already.

“We’re holding the leaderboard for now to see if we can’t decide on a better way to help differentiate people on it who are all at the same tier, other than just the first who got there specifically. Once we have decided that, we’ll need to code, test, and vet it and then update the leaderboards to reflect the new tracking.”

Source
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/arenanet-tracker/topic/286014-what-happen-to-fractals-leaderboard/

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Added Date – 12/17/2013 04:18 PM
If anyone has a more current post pls add.

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Of course they are coming, and soon! What do you think, the leaderboards were just a decoy to hide the ugliness of the Fractured update and removing player progression?!

Never forget.

Never forget.

C’mon guys it’s already here. It’s not like Anet would just wipe everyone’s fractal levels and justify it with a leaderboard that doesn’t exist.

I still wait for the fractals leaderboard. Where is it? They never canceled it, I understand that an awesome feature like this takes years to implement like other things (i.e. fixing cooldowns of skills).

ProtoGunner.4953:

I still wait for the fractals leaderboard. Where is it? They never canceled it, I understand that an awesome feature like this takes years to implement like other things (i.e. fixing cooldowns of skills).

Yeah, has this project officially been cancelled? Gaile? Gaile are you there?

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Wow, this thread is 8 months old with no reply, and it was posted when the leaderboard was already long overdue.

As much as I hate it, I understand that ArenaNet likes to keep future developments secret, but this was something promised in a CDI.

Is a progress update really too much to ask for?

Soon™

A reply to this issue would be nice, but I think we all know what really happened.

Dead and done.

Edit : I take that back. Maybe we can have a CDI about it.

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

A reply to this issue would be nice, but I think we all know what really happened.

I’m 99% sure the leaderboards were just a half thought out idea to further justify wiping PR levels. When they realized 1) There is no good way to implement it with the level cap so low, and 2) It would be like putting a nice little ribbon on a pile of steaming crap, they basically took the approach of “we’ll ignore it till it goes away” and hoped that everyone would forget about it.

so forget about it instead of necroing 8 month old irrelevant threads

.

inb4 we get a red post on this thread, letting us know that they’ve added [Suggestion] to the title.

insanemaniac.2456:

so forget about it instead of necroing 8 month old irrelevant threads

Ew. You’re gross.

I’ll forget about it when ANET comes in here and communicates properly.

“Ignore it and it will go away” is a terrible way to run a company and live one’s life.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

so forget about it instead of necroing 8 month old irrelevant threads

Ew. You’re gross.

I’ll forget about it when ANET comes in here and communicates properly.

“Ignore it and it will go away” is a terrible way to run a company and live one’s life.

…ok, ignoring the completely silly part…

it was a bad idea. it was always a bad idea. someone somewhere mentioned it and it was taken way too far. the idea did not have clear direction. it did not have clear implementation. it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing. it didnt pan out. why do you feel the need to try to force them to admit it when their lawyers and bosses clearly do not allow them to post anything that undercuts the companys professionalism as they see it? is not enough that the idea has been entirely abandoned wordlessly?

because it isnt ignored, its abandoned. shelved. just like putting toxic alliance crap in wvw has never been heard of again, but no one complains about things they think were bad and are gone now. theres just still some part of people that wants the competition something like this would provide. its enchanting, because you dont know how it would actually work, just that you think it would. and for that you have the websites for tracking record runs, as something tangible and real that would be really desirable as a first party official in game thing instead of some 3rd party site updated by 1-5 people who will quit some time.

If it’s abandoned, the least they could do is let us know about it. I don’t think that is too much to ask.

We really don’t have high standards these days. We don’t expect ArenaNet to follow through on what they say they’ll deliver, we’d just like to know when to give up hoping for those things.

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

so forget about it instead of necroing 8 month old irrelevant threads

Ew. You’re gross.

I’ll forget about it when ANET comes in here and communicates properly.

“Ignore it and it will go away” is a terrible way to run a company and live one’s life.

someone somewhere mentioned it and it was taken way too far. the idea did not have clear direction. it did not have clear implementation. it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.

Thanks for showing you don’t know what you’re talking about. We can continue this conversation, if you want, once you understand what happened.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

so forget about it instead of necroing 8 month old irrelevant threads

Ew. You’re gross.

I’ll forget about it when ANET comes in here and communicates properly.

“Ignore it and it will go away” is a terrible way to run a company and live one’s life.

someone somewhere mentioned it and it was taken way too far. the idea did not have clear direction. it did not have clear implementation. it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.

Thanks for showing you don’t know what you’re talking about. We can continue this conversation, if you want, once you understand what happened.

what exactly do you think i dont understand?

that every dungeon forum denizen has their panties in a twist because of anets neglect and the apparent dissolution of the dungeon team subsequent to the departure of hrouda?

the only reason my panties arent in a twist about what happened with fractals is because i wasnt motivated to abuse revive orbs to get skins back before fractured, and hour long dredge fractals instilled enough fear in me to stop me from caring about wasting gold on a pve only set when i was a primarily wvw player already carrying 2 extra gear sets.

really. just stop.

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

so forget about it instead of necroing 8 month old irrelevant threads

Ew. You’re gross.

I’ll forget about it when ANET comes in here and communicates properly.

“Ignore it and it will go away” is a terrible way to run a company and live one’s life.

someone somewhere mentioned it and it was taken way too far. the idea did not have clear direction. it did not have clear implementation. it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.

Thanks for showing you don’t know what you’re talking about. We can continue this conversation, if you want, once you understand what happened.

what exactly do you think i dont understand?

that every dungeon forum denizen has their panties in a twist because of anets neglect and the apparent dissolution of the dungeon team subsequent to the departure of hrouda?

the only reason my panties arent in a twist about what happened with fractals is because i wasnt motivated to abuse revive orbs to get skins back before fractured, and hour long dredge fractals instilled enough fear in me to stop me from caring about wasting gold on a pve only set when i was a primarily wvw player already carrying 2 extra gear sets.

really. just stop.

Sigh.

1. Fractals were advertised as an unlimited dungeon. People used many techniques other than revive orbs to surpass maw agony. People asked the devs on the forums if any of these techniques weren’t allowed. No answer. Devs said fractal levels were unlimited and did not condemn any of the techniques used to revive after maw agony when directly asked.

2. The leader boards were not conceptualized, as you put it, “to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them.” Again, you clearly don’t know what happened. Were you even around then? Your forum post history says you started posting this October. Granted, forums are terribly buggy and may not be portraying the year correctly, and you could have simply not posted until then, but I’m curious anyway. The leader boards were announced simultaneously with the Fractured! patch. They were planned from the get go. They were not some random idea someone mentioned to placate anybody. They were the selling point of the Fractured! patch reset.

So, again, please stop spewing nonsense you know nothing about.

Edit: So I thought forum posts used to display year, but now the year is not showing up anywhere. I skimmed through more of your pages of post history and saw that you’ve been around for a while. So there’s that.

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Of course they are coming, and soon! What do you think, the leaderboards were just a decoy to hide the ugliness of the Fractured update and removing player progression?!

Never forget.

Teckos.1305:

wait for it……….

Waaaaaaaait for iiiiiiit…

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Sigh.

1. Fractals were advertised as an unlimited dungeon. People used many techniques other than revive orbs to surpass maw agony. People asked the devs on the forums if any of these techniques weren’t allowed. No answer. Devs said fractal levels were unlimited and did not condemn any of the techniques used to revive after maw agony when directly asked.

2. The leader boards were not conceptualized, as you put it, “to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them.” Again, you clearly don’t know what happened. Were you even around then? Your forum post history says you started posting this October. Granted, forums are terribly buggy and may not be portraying the year correctly, and you could have simply not posted until then, but I’m curious anyway. The leader boards were announced simultaneously with the Fractured! patch. They were planned from the get go. They were not some random idea someone mentioned to placate anybody. They were the selling point of the Fractured! patch reset.

So, again, please stop spewing nonsense you know nothing about.

Edit: So I thought forum posts used to display year, but now the year is not showing up anywhere. I skimmed through more of your pages of post history and saw that you’ve been around for a while. So there’s that.

thats 2012. are you done being a condescending elitist yet? because yes, i know fractals were originally conceptualized to be infinite, with new levels attainable as they released more and more ascended gear. but that isnt how it worked out at all. they had the cap at 80, because we were never supposed to be able to bypass the agony at jade maw, and it was something to deal with later. the fact that we could bypass with revive orbs just goes to show they didnt think of every possible interaction. they didnt condemn player actions because it wasnt gamebreaking, but you will never find a quote of them saying thats the way they intended fractals to be played. and when fractured came around, they partially dealt with the cap issue along with the ridiculous hp amounts from higher scales. and yes, the leaderboards were a fundamentally broken selling point of fractured. irreconcilably so. so its good that weve heard nothing about such a broken idea, and its time to let it die. think of something better.

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Sigh.

1. Fractals were advertised as an unlimited dungeon. People used many techniques other than revive orbs to surpass maw agony. People asked the devs on the forums if any of these techniques weren’t allowed. No answer. Devs said fractal levels were unlimited and did not condemn any of the techniques used to revive after maw agony when directly asked.

2. The leader boards were not conceptualized, as you put it, “to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them.” Again, you clearly don’t know what happened. Were you even around then? Your forum post history says you started posting this October. Granted, forums are terribly buggy and may not be portraying the year correctly, and you could have simply not posted until then, but I’m curious anyway. The leader boards were announced simultaneously with the Fractured! patch. They were planned from the get go. They were not some random idea someone mentioned to placate anybody. They were the selling point of the Fractured! patch reset.

So, again, please stop spewing nonsense you know nothing about.

Edit: So I thought forum posts used to display year, but now the year is not showing up anywhere. I skimmed through more of your pages of post history and saw that you’ve been around for a while. So there’s that.

thats 2012. are you done being a condescending elitist yet? because yes, i know fractals were originally conceptualized to be infinite, with new levels attainable as they released more and more ascended gear. but that isnt how it worked out at all. they had the cap at 80, because we were never supposed to be able to bypass the agony at jade maw, and it was something to deal with later. the fact that we could bypass with revive orbs just goes to show they didnt think of every possible interaction. they didnt condemn player actions because it wasnt gamebreaking, but you will never find a quote of them saying thats the way they intended fractals to be played. and when fractured came around, they partially dealt with the cap issue along with the ridiculous hp amounts from higher scales. and yes, the leaderboards were a fundamentally broken selling point of fractured. irreconcilably so. so its good that weve heard nothing about such a broken idea, and its time to let it die. think of something better.

Thank you for mostly correcting yourself and agreeing with what I said.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Thank you for mostly correcting yourself and agreeing with what I said.

i didnt correct myself, i said what i was saying the entire time. thanks for agreeing i guess.

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Thank you for mostly correcting yourself and agreeing with what I said.

i didnt correct myself, i said what i was saying the entire time. thanks for agreeing i guess.

Yes you absolutely did. What you first wrote was different than what you wrote at the end. You first wrote that leader boards were reactionary, and then amended your post after I told you that you were wrong.

You at first: “it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.”

You after: “and yes, the leaderboards were a fundamentally broken selling point of fractured.”

Thanks.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Thank you for mostly correcting yourself and agreeing with what I said.

i didnt correct myself, i said what i was saying the entire time. thanks for agreeing i guess.

Yes you absolutely did. What you first wrote was different than what you wrote at the end. You first wrote that leader boards were reactionary, and then amended your post after I told you that you were wrong.

You at first: “it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.”

You after: “and yes, the leaderboards were a fundamentally broken selling point of fractured.”

Thanks.

uh yeah, it was there to placate us, why else would it be a selling point

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

insanemaniac.2456:

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Thank you for mostly correcting yourself and agreeing with what I said.

i didnt correct myself, i said what i was saying the entire time. thanks for agreeing i guess.

Yes you absolutely did. What you first wrote was different than what you wrote at the end. You first wrote that leader boards were reactionary, and then amended your post after I told you that you were wrong.

You at first: “it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.”

You after: “and yes, the leaderboards were a fundamentally broken selling point of fractured.”

Thanks.

uh yeah, it was there to placate us, why else would it be a selling point

Ok, let me try to make this clear.

At first you described the leader boards as a reactionary measure mentioned by some staffer after people had started complaining about the reset.

I told you that you were wrong because the leader boards were NOT reactionary. They were included with the Fractured! announcement.

You said at first the leader boards were there ONLY for appeasement for people who were RIOTING.

This can’t be true because the leader boards were part of the causative agent of said anger.

Your writing is atrocious so maybe you don’t understand the implications of what you first wrote…

The meaning of your first post:

1. Anet announced Fractured!
2. People rioted
3. Anet conceptualized leader boards to calm rioting.

The reality of the situation:

1. Anet announced Fractured!, having previously conceptualized the leader boards, and included leader boards in the announcement
2. People rioted

Also, you still are ignoring the point that people bypassed agony legitimately without using revive orbs.

Anyway, fundamentally your logic is still “Ignore it and it will go away.”

To which I still respond:

Ew. You’re gross.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Fractals were advertised as an unlimited dungeon.

You know, technically speaking you could go beyond level 81 in Fractals… Your progress just wasn’t saved. I don’t know of anyone who stayed logged in long enough to see past 84 though.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Also, you still are ignoring the point that people bypassed agony legitimately without using revive orbs.

Well, the methods to bypass Agony were:

• The rock.
• Ranger pet. (“Search and Rescue!”)
• The 99% strategy.
• Revive Orbs.

There was no other way, and none of them were really legitimate. However, it was fair game since the agony ticked for 1172% of your health per second in a deliberate attempt to halt progress. They could have gradually increased the Agony damage instead and have the dungeon naturally block players due to gear, but.. Nah! Whatever! Just slam two 1’s in front of 72%!

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

The meaning of your first post:

1. Anet announced Fractured!
2. People rioted
3. Anet conceptualized leader boards to calm rioting.

The reality of the situation:

1. Anet announced Fractured!, having previously conceptualized the leader boards, and included leader boards in the announcement
2. People rioted

what makes you think anet wouldnt have tried to predict a bad reception when they reset everyones fractal levels? what about my post implies the ordering youre prescribing to it?

insanemaniac.2456:

it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.

Fractured at launch had plenty of bugs, some of which were literally progress preventing when certain instabilities and shards were combined. So let’s not pretend the update was so much more wonderful and polished then the original fractals. Over the past year most of the major bugs have been patched out..most.

Fractured was not better designed then the original fractals. Thats a simple fact, because it did not accomplish the goals it set out to. The idea was that the mistlock instabilities would incentivize different party compositions tackling whichever mistlock in the tier they could handle best. Instead what happened was, after the first week or so everyone started doing the few least obtrusive mistlocks and ignoring the rest. In a sense, its a similar abuse of the system as was happening before – it certainly goes against the spirit of the design. It’s fair to say on a personal level you prefer the mistlock system, but I find it hard to say it is unarguabley, objectively better in the way it has played out. It suffers from a lack of foresight just like the previous system did.

I think most of us would like an update on the fractal leaderboard not for the vindication of hearing anet say “yeah, it was a dumb idea sorry”, but simply to get a sense of where they plan to take fractals in the future. The leaderboard is a representation of all the half fufilled promises that were basically left to rot. I would be fine with just letting the leaderboard idea die (as I said at the time), but what about fractal boxes? Higher PR levels? More shards? Anet has been silent on those things as well, does that mean they are also being wordlessly abandoned?

insanemaniac.2456:

what makes you think anet wouldnt have tried to predict a bad reception when they reset everyones fractal levels? what about my post implies the ordering youre prescribing to it?

insanemaniac.2456:

it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of he new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.

If that was what you wanted to say, you should have written,

“it only had purpose, and its purpose was to attempt to placate riotous vocal forum members whos attention was going to be on complaining about what was being taken away from them instead of the new junk they were about to get that was better designed than the glitches and/or oversights they were abusing.”

As written, the time period implied is AFTER the announcement, but BEFORE the release.

And, to be clear, you’re arguing that ANET intentionally discussed and publically announced a feature which they had no intention of ever designing and whose express purpose was to placate angry forum members? That’s your argument? That they’re a bunch of craven liars?

More likely that they realized it was a vast waste of resources that only a tiny microfaction of the players would care about.

Something of that limited value I’m surprised it even got past hte suggestion phase.

Fact is, they advertised this feature as part of the Fractured! update. This and the Fractal weapon boxes as reward (as far as I remember). Be cause of this we had a reset of our own presonal progress, we worked for it! I think this is pretty questionnable, isn’t _ it (ffs fix your ridiculous profanity filter).

Following Fractal related things will be announced at PAX South (among other things):
- fractal leaderboard
- salvageable / mystic forgeable (to amulets and accessories) rings
- selectable weapon & armour chests
- fractal levels up to 60
- to make competition fair, everyone’s progress will be reset to 1.

Now guess which of these five things will most likely happen and which will not.

kuittaa.7360:

Following Fractal related things will be announced at PAX South (among other things):
- fractal leaderboard
- salvageable / mystic forgeable (to amulets and accessories) rings
- selectable weapon & armour chests
- fractal levels up to 60
- to make competition fair, everyone’s progress will be reset to 1.

Now guess which of these five things will most likely happen and which will not.

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