Arah P4, My thoughts.

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Posted by: KillerTuxAzteka.6128

KillerTuxAzteka.6128

Today I tried to beat Arah p4, did not succeed, I was told it was going to take like 3 or 4 hours to beat with the group I was playing with, everything was going ok, hard, but doable, we managed our way with sweat, tears and blood, we hit a dead end at the 7th boss, Simin, High Priestess of Dwayna, we tried many times, without managing to kill defeat the boss. Took us 6 hours and we gave up, we simply could not defeat that boss with our decent dps, although I believe that for challenging dungeons the only way to finish them is with 3 warriors a guardian and a mesmer, but where do the other classes stand?, I was playing with a necro, perhaps it was my fault because I was using a healing build, or idk, I believe Arah p4 is only doable with those elitist groups with zerker gear or whatever, I just want Anet to make that path a little more doable for all the classes, my group just wasted their time trying do defeat that boss, since always regenerated enough to make our lives misserable. Anyway, those are my thoughts.

(Just so its out there my group had a mesmer, 2 guardians, a warrior, and a necro)

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Posted by: Wukunlin.8461

Wukunlin.8461

how long did it take you guys to run the sparks?

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Posted by: NeoVaris.4806

NeoVaris.4806

I think the Simin fight is doable with that group setup, my first run in path 4 took around 2 hours (two of us were first timers to Arah entirely). The group composition was 2 elementists, 2 guardians, and a mesmer that kept disconnecting (weren’t LH eles). We still did it without the time warp though, it just comes down to how fast you can kite the sparks.

However some people have reported that there is a bug with Simin, where she would stealth at 50% and regenerate no matter what. I have run P4 numerous times now since then and never really encountered this bug.

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Posted by: KillerTuxAzteka.6128

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how long did it take you guys to run the sparks?

We did that fast, but it wasn’t fast enough, she regened no matter what.

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Posted by: KillerTuxAzteka.6128

KillerTuxAzteka.6128

I think the Simin fight is doable with that group setup, my first run in path 4 took around 2 hours (two of us were first timers to Arah entirely). The group composition was 2 elementists, 2 guardians, and a mesmer that kept disconnecting (weren’t LH eles). We still did it without the time warp though, it just comes down to how fast you can kite the sparks.

However some people have reported that there is a bug with Simin, where she would stealth at 50% and regenerate no matter what. I have run P4 numerous times now since then and never really encountered this bug.

First run here too, still, could not beat it. :c

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Posted by: Vicieux Rose.5910

Vicieux Rose.5910

I had my first run a few days ago for Arah p4. And I can assure you its beatable even when group composition is not mesmer, warrior and guardian. In my party we had a necro, 2 guardians and 2 eles. Me and the encro were running sparks while the 2 guards and other ele were dps-ing simin. Maybe you guys did not do sparks fast enough?

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Posted by: NeoVaris.4806

NeoVaris.4806

Did she go stealth when she hit 50% all the time?

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Posted by: Wukunlin.8461

Wukunlin.8461

how long did it take you guys to run the sparks?

We did that fast, but it wasn’t fast enough, she regened no matter what.

how fast is fast? look up some youtube videos and try remember how fast your runs were comparing to those.

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Posted by: The Mexican Cookie.3690

The Mexican Cookie.3690

I imagine it was just poor spark runs. I have done it at least a handful of times with 3 people, generally 2 warriors and 1 mesmer. Unless all 5 players were running like clerics gear, I can’t imagine your DPS was too much of a problem.

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

I did Simin recently. Was fine.

This is more of a l2p issue. Stop taking pvt leeches, and start coordinating.

I will note, there is a bug where sometimes she would ALWAYS go stealth every time she hit 50% hp, no matter how fast you did the Sparks. If this happens, a simple reset solved it for me.

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

Be prepared.

My warrior carried 18 different weapon and 2 different armor set. I have like 4 sets of axe with different sigils.

My guardian carred 4 different armor set(1 offence, 1 defense, 1 balance, 1 MF), and 10 different weapon.

I’m pretty sure your necro will have enough dps if you just use full berserker dagger/dagger with potion of undead slaying and a +10 dmg undead slaying sigil.

If you spend 6 hours on a boss, you might as well go outside and buy 2 dagger with appropriate sigil, retrait, and get consumable. Just make sure you are not the party leader.

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Posted by: rfdarko.4639

rfdarko.4639

On simin specifically, the “bug” is not lack of dps, it actually has nothing to do with dps, and everything to do with how fast you pull sparks. Intuitively, it seems like you have a certain amount of time to dps her, but actually the time she stealth’s again is determined by how high her health was when you started to dps her. For some reason the window to get her below 50% is kind of small – if she regenerates up to even 60% you’ll only be able to dps her down to 50. Make sure your spark pull is clean, and you should be able to break that 50% barrier even in a low dps group.

If your still having trouble, check out this vid – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmFx8KIb26Q

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Posted by: ProtoGunner.4953

ProtoGunner.4953

It works with any setup, we had a warrior, two guardians, a ranger and mesmer i think. I was guardian. The problem is the time you need until all the sparks are in place. The pathing is extremely bad – but with some experience you can do this part pretty fast. One thing is, if Simin is still fightable that one player runs down and gets some sparks already. Also i noticed that sometimes you can fight Simin for a longer time, sometimes it’s shorter. I don’t know if this is random, but maybe it has to do with the sparks part.

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