Guild Wars 2

As many of you might have noticed numerous raidteams bodyblock the projectiles fired by the purple beam in the Xera fight (most commonly used is probably Flesh Wurm).
This way you dont have to clear bloodstoneshards and can stay in the free area the whole time.

I’d like to discuss this here with you guys since I believe this to be an oversight.
I saw a NA team selling Xera to two buyers using this very method which makes the bossfight nearly trivial. Also there is a 6-man-kill posted on reddit using this method.

So what’s your take on this?

I’d suggest the projectiles to be piercing and adjusting the damage accordingly to compensate for this OR just increase the radius of the bloodstoneshards to overlap in the center of the arena (the latter probably being easier to implement and better in terms of balancing the damage caused by the beam).

It seems unintentional since the animations continue without doing damage, but either way it’s completely horrible for the fight. Xera is already extremely easy if you discount her various bugs, and this was really the only part of the fight that was remotely dangerous as long as your team knows how to stack behind xera. The projectiles should at the very least pierce non-player allied units.

As far as I know we haven’t seen any raid changes to make the encounters harder, but when it comes to wing 3 I would welcome any change in that direction with open arms.

I consider it an exploit and really hope it’s fixed soon.

It completely trivialises the entire encounter, thanks to the way the mechanics have been designed to work together. I agree that the orbs should just pierce through allied pets/minions without dropping the gravity well.

Body blocking happens in every game type it should be removed imo from all game types if they decide to remove from 1, is it an exploit ? No since its using in game mechanics that have been a big part of the game since launch.

Xera wasn’t that hard before people started using this.

They can easily fix it just by applying the piercing trait to its projectiles.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Body blocking happens in every game type it should be removed imo from all game types if they decide to remove from 1, is it an exploit ? No since its using in game mechanics that have been a big part of the game since launch.

But this tactic heavily “uses” the minion change from a while back, causing them to ignore 99% of AoE damage. And ignoring a whole raid mechanic with a single Slotskill of one class is a bit too easy, wouldn’t you agree (the fight is already extremely easy as it is without this…well, strategy)?

And bodyblocking was never such a thing imo, the only encounter I’d instantly mention is in the Uncategorized Fractal with Old Tom (and the Asura if your team is unable to use absorbs) and Old Tom was bodyblocked with an Earth Elemental before the Minion Damage Patch.

I’ve done the fight with and without using the Flesh Worm (or Seed Turret/Healing Seed if Sylvari) and I personally don’t see any big deal with it because it is a good use for skills that will never get used otherwise. I love finding uses for skills that seem terrible but end up shining and being the best skill ever in some scenarios. While I still played Guardian before HoT, I actually found a use for all but signet of mercy in fractals and it felt good.

shintao.6392:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Body blocking happens in every game type it should be removed imo from all game types if they decide to remove from 1, is it an exploit ? No since its using in game mechanics that have been a big part of the game since launch.

But this tactic heavily “uses” the minion change from a while back, causing them to ignore 99% of AoE damage. And ignoring a whole raid mechanic with a single Slotskill of one class is a bit too easy, wouldn’t you agree (the fight is already extremely easy as it is without this…well, strategy)?

And bodyblocking was never such a thing imo, the only encounter I’d instantly mention is in the Uncategorized Fractal with Old Tom (and the Asura if your team is unable to use absorbs) and Old Tom was bodyblocked with an Earth Elemental before the Minion Damage Patch.

Don’t get me wrong I just want body locking removed completely in all game modes, so if they will remove from one fight because it makes the fight easier they should just remove it all together.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Don’t get me wrong I just want body locking removed completely in all game modes, so if they will remove from one fight because it makes the fight easier they should just remove it all together.

How about no? This is pretty good mechanic, and removing it just because one boss fight out of hundreds in game is beyond stupid. They will fix this encounter and thats it.

Rednik.3809:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Don’t get me wrong I just want body locking removed completely in all game modes, so if they will remove from one fight because it makes the fight easier they should just remove it all together.

How about no? This is pretty good mechanic, and removing it just because one boss fight out of hundreds in game is beyond stupid. They will fix this encounter and thats it.

Oh how I miss the Guild Wars 1 days where coming up with a creative solution was praised by the community and Anet alike and not hated on because it makes the encounter to easy wasn’t thought of by them and is a clever use of skills that is completely within the game parameters and not an exploit.

Azoqu.8917:

Oh how I miss the Guild Wars 1 days where coming up with a creative solution was praised by the community and Anet alike and not hated on because it makes the encounter to easy wasn’t thought of by them and is a clever use of skills that is completely within the game parameters and not an exploit.

You obviously don’t remember all of the iterations Shadow Form went through.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Azoqu.8917:

Oh how I miss the Guild Wars 1 days where coming up with a creative solution was praised by the community and Anet alike and not hated on because it makes the encounter to easy wasn’t thought of by them and is a clever use of skills that is completely within the game parameters and not an exploit.

You obviously don’t remember all of the iterations Shadow Form went through.

There is a difference between something being used for a few encounters and something being used to cheese the entire game. Plus I stopped playing GW1 for a few years while that went down.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Azoqu.8917:

Oh how I miss the Guild Wars 1 days where coming up with a creative solution was praised by the community and Anet alike and not hated on because it makes the encounter to easy wasn’t thought of by them and is a clever use of skills that is completely within the game parameters and not an exploit.

You obviously don’t remember all of the iterations Shadow Form went through.

Using shadow form was hardly a “creative solution”. The skill turned out to be too OP in a majority of situations. On the other hand, 55hp monk remained a thing till the end.

make xera projectiles to ignore summons.

The issue was fixed as of yesterday’s patch.