Guild Wars 2

I reckon the dev’s are getting hit with code smell right now. Someone didn’t think through enough about how the fractal mechanisms will work, and now that the entire system has been built on the faulty mechanisms, “fixing” it will require an entire recoding of the whole thing.

hello there,

I wanted to post some rant =) well at least let know Anet that this issue is really annoying.

Facts :
At this moment, its been 6 daily lvl 10 (I don’t even bother to level up from lvl11 … since I’m lvl11) that for some reason 1 person (including me) DC during one of the 4 fractals …

Analysis :
2 problems I can guess : server load and the impossible joining back
a. I can not believe you guys make me lag like this and believe me this is not client related (I manage all my processuses to unload my CPU and my connection is closely monitored) … will you guyz one day consider the load problem ?
b. about the impossibilty to join back a fractal group, do you really think that this is the only way to manage 2 people from kicking one or more others ? let me know where to go to see some dev feedback on this, the way they will handle it

and … pretty please, hurry!!! I want an ETA on this fixing

and since you introduced another way to get rings, maybe theres a changing trend about lame people who kick others to get their (guild)mates the final reward
there is no such thing in dungeons … so why in FotM ??? WHY ?!?

Conclusion :
it’s been 3 weeks that I am ONLY trying to finish a lvl10 daily once EVERY OTHER DAY and still … still this DC that is that annoying that I do not want to do this thing because I always fear to be fractaled …

just do it!

This issue is the first one which motivated me enough to post on the forums, something I normally refrain from doing.

Unacceptable. That is the only word which comes to mind when I think of this whole issue. In this day and age, problems like these should be hotfixed ASAP. But no, ANet needs WEEKS to fix a problem which is frustrating me and hoards of other players daily.

How can it be that this respected company is not doing everything it possibly can to fix this gamebreaking problem, but they are able to change a non-broken boss in HotW p1. That right there, is mindboggling to me.

ANet, get your act together ASAP and fix this….

Yes, the developers really need to fix this. I have been DC’d twice in the last 4 fractal runs I’ve done. Last night it was the entire group, on the third map of the daily. It was a good group and we were having no problems at all, then suddenly all of us were kicked out.

It’s already hard enough to catch up on FotM with the fragmented nature of the userbase, let alone adding random disconnects. If a player DC’s, they need to be allowed to re-enter the map.

OK… all I have to say is that I’ve been trying to do the daily for the past four hours, that’s about 10 tries on different lvls (10-16). Not a single try was successful, there always was someone who got disconnected and we werent able to finish the fractals with four players. All I can say is that it is a kittenING RIDICULOUS JOKE!!!

I just started having a dc issue with the game that affected me in FotM. Total bs and caused me and my guild mates to log off in frustration.

Just now i wasted 1 more hour.
At lvl40 someone dc at jade maw and 10 min later i dc too.
Sucks big time that after 1h in lvl40 we get dc 10min before the end.

And if anyone comes saying that i didnt waste 1h because of the drops on the fractals they are wrong.
Patch notes say they fixed the loot drops but is not 100% fixed, level 40 in the 3 fractals before jade maw i got 0 rares or t6 mats.
Thats right level 40 = 0 rares and in lvl20 i get 4 or 5 rares must of the times.

So whats wrong? at lvl 20 – 30 the loot its fixed but at lvl40 is worst than lvl 10?

Sorry but i had to whine, i just get very angry when i dc like that after so much work.

An other hour wasted for me too, wish this issue had a higher priority.

So sick of this happening…..Serenity Now!!!!!!!

The problem is because we have the pop-up window with “Ready” status. the fastest way to get rid of the problem is to make FotM the same as other dg’s. Simple – without pop-up window with “Ready” status.

Happened -again- to me just now. I’ve lost track as to how often I’ve been screwed by this.

Is there any estimation on when the game will be playable again?

Just got to level 25 of the dungeon, third fractal. Just before the Grawl boss. Player disconnects. Entire party rages and separates.

That was the TWELFTH time I’ve had to run level 25, all failed. All because of this stupid kittening problem.

I don’t give a rat’s kitten about ANY problems in this game right now in dungeons except for this one. This should be your HIGHEST priority, and I hope it is, thought I doubt that’s the case. How did this even pass QA? I’m absolutely sick of being a kittening beta tester for your kittening content.

Im almost positive there’s not going to be a fix anytime before the first of the year, or even close.

And with the Holidays fast-approaching, there’s not going to be anyone steadily working on the issue until well-after the holidays. If we don’t get REALLY lucky and get a hot-fix before Christmas, I’ll wager mid-January (8th to 15th) easily.

Good thing I participated in the Steam Summer Sale, still need to finish Fallout 3. No better time than now.

I thought this was supposed to be fixed weeks ago?

im starthing to think that the dc problem in fractals is intended, so we spend more times doin nonsense fractals then dc and star over again. while not complaining about the lack of other fun things of the game itself.

WILL ANET reward me for the over 30 DCs in fractals?
RESPONSE: NO, they just reward stupid things, people with x2 karka boxes and me that tried to log on the fixed time coundnt caus einternet problems (cause the storm) and dint eve got 1 karka box, TY anet CHEERS for the great game.

What I don’t get is why it’s in the monthly. I’d be happy to wait multiple months for a fix but I beat my head against this last month and I don’t fell like waiting the hour to get a lvl 1 group going just to either dc or lose 2 people by the 3rd fractal.

Happened again, I dont DC anywhere else in the game, can run regular dungeons for hours on end without issue. ATM cant get past frac15 because this keeps happening.

Yet again, DCed at the end of a 2 hour fractal, that was only taking so long because someone else DCed.

Some of us only have 2-3 hours to play each day, its incredibly frustrating to have your entire afternoon go to waste like this. Honestly, I don’t even know why I’m still playing.

I don’t understand how something like this is taking so long to fix, FOTM is the GW2 endgame, this is the kind of bug you get your whole team working overtime so it gets fixed ASAP it should have priority over everything else.

“We’re aware of the problem and are working on an active fix. Very sorry about this, hopefully it will be fixed soon.” Anet staffer —- ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

Come on guys! This is just getting annoying! Hurry up with this fix. I am just about at the breaking point with this and am about to give up on fractals all together. It has been a month. I mean you guys created an entire game in 5 years. So how is it so hard to make it so you can reconnect to a dungeon!

I think I’ve only completed 1 out of 3 tries average on fractals. This is getting insane. I’m tired of wasting so much time with this pathetic excuse for a dungeon. Faked difficulty by introducing unavoidable damage (don’t get me wrong, I know it can be avoided, but if it hits you, you’re done), RNG dependent progression, and flawed system with DCs and defeats. Seriously it gets annoying when someone screws up in, say, the blizzard fractal, they die somewhere you can’t revive them, and the whole team has to pay for one’s mistake.

its a gamebreaking problem. Simple as that.
Seeing friends and randoms ragequit all the time after it happens destroys our guild/community.

This + that you can’t join with people from other overflows (you have to be in the same overflow) makes the fractals annoying.

Just did 2 hours worth of fractal with pugs…

2 dced…

when is this gonna get fixed?

These issue has to be top priority its really getting frustrating .
Please game developers listen to the community.

why you cant do like in gw 1 for dc in fractaks i know you want do like other dungeons because of levle scale, but if you do the method like in gw 1 so if anyonegot dc have 10-1 min to reconect to the instance… that should work no?

This has affected 3 of my guild’s Fractal runs in the past two days.

I’m sure they are working hard on a fix, but until then, I think it is important that people continue to report incidents in this thread.

Kris.1895:

OK… all I have to say is that I’ve been trying to do the daily for the past four hours, that’s about 10 tries on different lvls (10-16). Not a single try was successful, there always was someone who got disconnected and we werent able to finish the fractals with four players. All I can say is that it is a kittenING RIDICULOUS JOKE!!!

The Issue is really bad that you can’t reconnect but I don’t get why ppl complaining about daily.. you can do lvl 10 daily with 3 ppl ( we had icy dredge and asura one) .. so why groups don’t go on with 4 ppl at that lvl?

In pugs on a daily, it usually goes something like:

DC in first or second, group disbands or restarts on reconnect or with someone else.

DC on third, we’ll usually push to the end and then do daily bonus.

But it doesn’t matter, because this issue should get FIXED. Fractals have 90% of their reward come at the end of the third stage (advancement) or fourth stage (daily roll for a ring).

use the normal dungeon instance system for fractals and just disable vote-kicking, problem solved

This is really getting out of hand.

Had one guy DC near end of second fractal (he was the friend of another party member but that’s another story). Fine, 4-man the rest of it, even as we roll grawl fractal. Another DC at the very last boss of the third fractal.

Pretty sure the community wants a fix soon (soon, not “soon”), or at least some more informative/less evasive answers about this issue.

Anet please give us a way to get back into the fractal after DCing. Your dungeons have a mechanic that allows us to get back in and it was perfect. Why did this change?

Sometimes it feels like you guys take five steps in the right direction and then suddenly forget your destination O.o

My entire group d/c’d at the same time in the blizzard fractal, so at least we didn’t have to worry about trying to finish with 4…

Given that this is the only dungeon anyone was having any fun with or bothering to run at all, this should be the #1 priority for your PvE team. No ETA on a fix a month later (and if anything the bug seems to be getting worse) is absolutely unacceptable from a professional game developer.

Take a break from milking events for gem sales and start fixing the problems you’ve had since release. You’ll find your gem store sales are better when the players are happy.

Even worse than not being able to get back in, is the bug that kicks everyone out (sometimes) when that person tries to reenter.

The first fractal I tried was soon after the release, and the game locked up when I was entering the loading zone, not the first fractal… by the time I logged back on I had been kicked from the group (which is fine I understand that).

My second attempt we were half way through the first fractal and I DC’d. This can happen to me more than NA players because I live in the Oceania region, and can happen once or twice during a gaming session. When I logged back on I re-entered Fractals and discovered I couldn’t rejoin my group.

This was just mind-boggling to me, and I have never seen this before in any other MMO I have played over the last 5 years.

I was immediately discouraged and never even looked for another group, because the idea of ruining someone else’s experience because of my DC took some fun out of it.

After that groups became harder to find, so again I was discouraged. While I wanted to explore the content, what I wanted more was the rewards for the Monthly. So I ventured back in there (with the help of gw2lfg.com mind you another topic altogether) and you know what… I really enjoyed the dungeon. I made it to level 9 over a few days, but during that time I had 2 DC’s, but were very early on so It wasn’t too bad and the group I was with at the time were really good about it.

It has been a month now and this problem still persists. I will keep running when I can but in the back of my mind I feel like I am running a gauntlet praying that myself or someone else doesn’t DC.

Obviously if it was an easy fix it would be done. So I only ask this, If it is not fixed by next month remove it from the monthly achievement. It’s not fair that a monthly achievement is linked to a bugged instance, making progression on multiple parts of the game a frustrating process.

Patrikan Habaton.2548:

The Issue is really bad that you can’t reconnect but I don’t get why ppl complaining about daily.. you can do lvl 10 daily with 3 ppl ( we had icy dredge and asura one) .. so why groups don’t go on with 4 ppl at that lvl?

In my case, I think is one of the biggest issues because I do fractals with friends. If one of my friends gets disconnected, he is losing the possibility of finish it with us. He loses the reward and we doesn’t advance at the same time, so we’re always stuck in the same fractal level until everyone is able to finish it. Yes, we can advance without our friends, but I like to think this is a cooperative game and I don’t like to leave anyone behind

Disconnected agina. worst I cannot left the party or all member will kick from the instance. I can do nothing but to wait them to finish the last 2 mission

I also lost the chance to get my daily and need redo the 4 MISSIONS agina

Disconnected once more sign

Can we get an update on this situation? It is incredibly frustrating especially when you do a fractal level that is hard to find a group for. A month later and all that is said is “we are working on it”. Can you be frank and say if the fix is going to be well into the new year or not? I am tired of having to repeat dungeon levels because when one person d/c’s, ragequitting usually follows. Being an hour or so into a fractal when this happens makes it more frustrating. What makes this worse is you don’t update us properly on the progress of the fix so all we can do is keep hoping it will be soon.

I just wish when they release new content, they try them out on crappy computers and emulate horrible internet conditions, just to see what problems may arise. I’d reckon this is a clear oversight in their part. I just read the reddit thing and I can appreciate the effort they’re doing. Which is why I’ll stay away from them for the time being until they can find a fix. But in light of this, I do hope they remove the fractal requirement for monthly and chance it back to dungeons at least.

We’re due another working on it message in 4 days. Are we not grate full? I dont know about you but if I was designing an online game I would all ways ask myself what happend if the player dc’s or their computer locks up before releasing something.

I’ve been trying to complete Lv20 for my daily for the past couple of days and every single time ends with a disconnect of some sort. I either get kicked back to the character screen or everything freezes up (with animations on infinite loops) and then I’m dropped to a black screen &/or the client just exits out. Nothing else has caused this before except for The Lost Shores event (karka legendary battle).

This is getting upsetting. D=

Another disconnect trough error message on last boss….
this get friggin annoying, is it so hard just to put all instances on same map with a global waypoint to the specif location?
This is now how long know?1month? srsly its not just frustating for the one who dcs no, the other have hard times too, thx to this friggin bug.

Happened again, the game is kittening UBPLYABLE at this point.

Hello dear Anet!

As i see I can’t criticise so i’ll just ask.

When and in what way will the fractals be repaired?

Still getting errors in fractals, and often in the 3rd mini-dungeon (meaning a massive waste of time and effort). How long must this go on?

GIVE ME BACK MY TIME! 1 hour and 30 minutes of my life wasted on a dc. Yes I did have some fun for that 1 hour and 30 minutes. BUT MY GOAL was to unlock the NEXT LEVEL and my DAILY CHEST. Give me my daily chest and my level.
kitten /p>

2 times dc on 3rd fractals on lvl 68 first cause of pc breakdwond 2nd. random anet dc than on 2nd map dc from a storm and finally today on 3rd one dc because of windows update.. on top of that 3rd fractal 68 today a bugg the forced us to use res orbs ( I got caged as last one surviving and the cage didn’t have any hp ) I had no why to die so one had to use rez orb to get the boss to me so we could wipe and reset … on top of that it’s said that the endgame content needs the use of gems!

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/fractals-of-the-mists-dungeon-improvements/

According to this, we finally get this issue fixed.

At the end of January…

No hurry guys, by then, it’ll only be 2 1/2 months…feel free to take all the time you need with a Gamebreaking issue what was obviously never ran through QA or had any prior testing.

Thats alright though, Path of Exile will be out on the 24th of January, and Im finishing up Fallout 3 until then. So I’ll probably be seeing Tyria again around next summer, maybe. Especially considering I’ve had no interest in even downloading the holiday patch…

Peace out, guys.

Faction.4013:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/fractals-of-the-mists-dungeon-improvements/

According to this, we finally get this issue fixed.

At the end of January…

No hurry guys, by then, it’ll only be 2 1/2 months…feel free to take all the time you need with a Gamebreaking issue what was obviously never ran through QA or had any prior testing.

Thats alright though, Path of Exile will be out on the 24th of January, and Im finishing up Fallout 3 until then. So I’ll probably be seeing Tyria again around next summer, maybe. Especially considering I’ve had no interest in even downloading the holiday patch…

Peace out, guys.

I must agree that this fix took way too long and I’m not really sure about the other fix coming to fractals too. It doesn’t sound smart that like lvl 3 fractal player goes to something like lvl 23 where there already is agony effect.

Imo this won’t fix anything. I was in hope of getting the group find finally but it seems that they won’t listen to what community wants…

I’ll believe it when I see it. This is not the first time they said they were going to add a fix in a patch. They just decided to choose a patch further away this time thinking this thread will go away.

Wow, another full month.