Diminishing Returns - what do we know, +research.
From my experience and understanding it doesn’t exactly works as you describe. Here is what I know.
Rewards: per character, 20 token per path completion. Extra 40 tokens for the first completion of the day. Money, experience and karma never change and scale with level.
Diminishing Returns: per account, affects all rewards and ignore daily reset.
- Repeat. Completing the same path twice or more in a row halves the reward. Stacks in intensity. Resets when doing a different path.
- Spam. Completing many paths within a short time frame (starts hitting at something like 4-5 paths in 2h). Stacks in intensity and duration: during the halloween event some people ran the MK dungeon so much they got awarded 6 tokens 8 hours or so later. Resets with time.
- Speed. Completing a single path under a given time supposedly triggers reduced rewards. I haven’t actually met this DR and don’t think you can trigger it unless exploiting (and yes I did CoF1 in less than 12min, etc). It might be set to different values for each dungeon or to something unatainable without exploits (like less than 5 minutes).
I’d love to know if anyone has more precisions or a contradicting example.
That’s basically what i said.
The repeat DR is account-wide. The spam DR is account-wide.
One exception is that i’ve done AC2 on one character three times one day, spread in time, and first time was 60 tokens & 100% other rewards, second time was 20 tokens & 100% other rewards, and third was 10 tokens & 50% other rewards. Yes, i’m sure that no other DR mechanic hit.
As far as I know;
60 per toon and path if you do another dungeon in between these runs.
5 runs in less than 2 hours will net you 45 tokens on the 5th run, regardless of dungeon.
If there is a DR for clearing a dungeon really fast, it’s below 5 minutes.
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For point 3 and 4.. it’s 45 tokens the first time you hit speed DR. From my experience after weeks of speed running dungeons every night, it’s the 5th completed run in under 2 hours.
There is no such thing as #4. I run a variety of dungeons in under 15 min. every single night, we get 60 everytime for our first 4 runs. Here is proof of my runs, with many other paths under 15 min. as well that I haven’t uploaded yet:
CM:
Path 1 (14:10): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoWhasHltgM
Path 3 (13:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDRJg5OJJAE
SE:
Path 1 (21:01): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWbjBOIKn_E
Path 3 (11:35): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95vVeG1H7tw
CoF:
Path 1 (8:21): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6D4l3pGrvQ
Path 2 (14:45): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZFmXQaeJ3I
Path 3 (18:32): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssIE8w2JJeQ
HotW:
Path 1 (15:08): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQMIThg-oo
https://www.youtube.com/user/strife025
i can confirm that completing a 5th dungeon in under 2hr’s hits you with the DR and you get 45 tokens rather than 60.
so thats 4 full rewards and 1 nerfed.
Not sure if 2 hours is the actual limit for 5. 120/5 = 24, which is a pretty weird time frame. Seems more likely that it would either be 1hr40 (100 minutes, 20 per dungeon), or 2hr30 (150 minutes, 30 per dungeon). 25p/dungeon could also be a possibility, but I just think 2hrs is a weird time frame due to the average mean time.