Guild Wars 2

The thread is aimed to EXPLAIN how DR works in dungeons, not kitten about it. If you have any insight to share, any reliable info or experience – please tell us!

First thing – the timer on dungeons reset at midnight GMT, along with dailies. This means that if your dailies have reset, your dungeons have reset as well. When i say ‘a day’ (etc), it means from midnight GMT to midnight GMT; when i say ‘the reset’, it means the midnight GMT mark.

You will get hit by DR when…

1) …you run the same route twice a day, with the same toon.
The first time you do a route, say AC1, you get 60 tokens. The second time you do it the same day you get 20 tokens. Next – 10 tokens, 5 tokens, etc.
It’s the basic DR and it’s pretty straightforward.

2) …you run the same route in a quick succession, with different toons.
Do AC1 with toon A – get 60; relog onto another toon and do AC1 again – get 30 or 45.
NEEDED RESEARCH: what is the a time counter on it? How many tokens you get? Why?

3) …you run 5 (4?) dungoens within a given time window, supposedly about 2h.
It doesn’t matter if the toons are different or if the routes are different. If you do ‘too many’ runs (4 or 5) within a given time window, which is supposedly around 2h, you will get 30 or 45 tokens next time.
NEEDED RESEARCH: what’s the time window? How many routes can you do before the DR hits within it? How/when does it reset? 30 or 45 tokens – when and why?

4) …you are too fast.
If you finish a run ‘too fast’, you will be hit by DR and receive 30 or 45 tokens.
Taking anything above 30 minutes seems to be safe in all dungeons. Doing some runs in less than 30 minutes, about 20 minutes range, seems to trigger DR regardless of any other known DR mechanics pointed above.
NEEDED RESEARCH: what’s the exact minimum time requirement to avoid the DR? How many tokens do you get, 30 or 45?

From my experience and understanding it doesn’t exactly works as you describe. Here is what I know.

Rewards: per character, 20 token per path completion. Extra 40 tokens for the first completion of the day. Money, experience and karma never change and scale with level.

Diminishing Returns: per account, affects all rewards and ignore daily reset.

• Repeat. Completing the same path twice or more in a row halves the reward. Stacks in intensity. Resets when doing a different path.
• Spam. Completing many paths within a short time frame (starts hitting at something like 4-5 paths in 2h). Stacks in intensity and duration: during the halloween event some people ran the MK dungeon so much they got awarded 6 tokens 8 hours or so later. Resets with time.
• Speed. Completing a single path under a given time supposedly triggers reduced rewards. I haven’t actually met this DR and don’t think you can trigger it unless exploiting (and yes I did CoF1 in less than 12min, etc). It might be set to different values for each dungeon or to something unatainable without exploits (like less than 5 minutes).

I’d love to know if anyone has more precisions or a contradicting example.

That’s basically what i said.
The repeat DR is account-wide. The spam DR is account-wide.

One exception is that i’ve done AC2 on one character three times one day, spread in time, and first time was 60 tokens & 100% other rewards, second time was 20 tokens & 100% other rewards, and third was 10 tokens & 50% other rewards. Yes, i’m sure that no other DR mechanic hit.

As far as I know;
60 per toon and path if you do another dungeon in between these runs.
5 runs in less than 2 hours will net you 45 tokens on the 5th run, regardless of dungeon.
If there is a DR for clearing a dungeon really fast, it’s below 5 minutes.

For point 3 and 4.. it’s 45 tokens the first time you hit speed DR. From my experience after weeks of speed running dungeons every night, it’s the 5th completed run in under 2 hours.

There is no such thing as #4. I run a variety of dungeons in under 15 min. every single night, we get 60 everytime for our first 4 runs. Here is proof of my runs, with many other paths under 15 min. as well that I haven’t uploaded yet:

CM:
Path 1 (14:10): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoWhasHltgM
Path 3 (13:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDRJg5OJJAE

SE:
Path 1 (21:01): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWbjBOIKn_E
Path 3 (11:35): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95vVeG1H7tw

CoF:
Path 1 (8:21): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6D4l3pGrvQ
Path 2 (14:45): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZFmXQaeJ3I
Path 3 (18:32): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssIE8w2JJeQ

HotW:
Path 1 (15:08): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQMIThg-oo

i can confirm that completing a 5th dungeon in under 2hr’s hits you with the DR and you get 45 tokens rather than 60.

so thats 4 full rewards and 1 nerfed.

Not sure if 2 hours is the actual limit for 5. 120/5 = 24, which is a pretty weird time frame. Seems more likely that it would either be 1hr40 (100 minutes, 20 per dungeon), or 2hr30 (150 minutes, 30 per dungeon). 25p/dungeon could also be a possibility, but I just think 2hrs is a weird time frame due to the average mean time.