Guild Wars 2

They did it. They hit fiery rush with a sledgehammer the size of planets and now it’s trash tier.

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What’d they do?

Yay ele is back to having no good elite skills.

But don’t get me wrong I do not think it was okay as is… but really. Might as well just slot elementals.

What? now? wasnt it supposed to be in september?

dlonie.6547:

What’d they do?

70% damage reduction to the trails, the trails no longer stack and they buffed the strike.

Well, the Ice Elemental will basically give you a second heal skill according to the wiki’s numbers, 6570 on a 25 second cool down. Fire Elemental will provide extra AoE and some Might. Besides Earth being really tanky I’m not as impressed with it and Air

Wow, PvE is now challenging, fun and interesting, yay, who would guess you only need a damage nerf to make dungeons viable again!

Who cares, eles can provide 25 vuln by themselves now….

So, what about bear form? And with the no stacking what about Burning Retreat and the dagger rush?

Jerus.4350:

So, what about bear form? And with the no stacking what about Burning Retreat and the dagger rush?

They included those too iirc.

Jerus.4350:

So, what about bear form? And with the no stacking what about Burning Retreat and the dagger rush?

Both got axed the same way as fiery rush, no more wall rushing with them either.

And a quote from Karl on the Twitch chat: " Karl_mclain: I wouldn’t count on norn forms being the same, either."

Jerus.4350:

So, what about bear form? And with the no stacking what about Burning Retreat and the dagger rush?

Bear form not changed, burning retreat and burning speed both nerfed like FGS rush.
Edit: Maaaybe bear form nerfed aswell

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Please fix the mesmers’ one-year-old bugs while you’re at it, ANET.

That thread did get a red post yesterday, btw. Chris Whiteside is actually posting a lot since yesterday. It looks like CommTagGate was a bit of a wake up call for them…

cautious optimism

I am pretty sure someone is quitting gw2 after this, so… Looking for a guild, where do I apply?

dlonie.6547:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Please fix the mesmers’ one-year-old bugs while you’re at it, ANET.

That thread did get a red post yesterday, btw. Chris Whiteside is actually posting a lot since yesterday. It looks like CommTagGate was a bit of a wake up call for them…

cautious optimism

Oh Lord, I so hope that’s true. It’s so maddening to see an issue so glaringly visible being ignored for so long.
Maybe, just maybe the hope is not lost, not all is vain and the dream still lives.

ANET pls

And thus ended the era of Elite skills that actually felt… elite.

Ariete The Phoenix.8276:

I am pretty sure someone is quitting gw2 after this, so… Looking for a guild, where do I apply?

Lol restaaaart the mmo!

I know you probably mean speed running elite guilds but I’ve honestly fell in love with [ARES]

Burning speed. :<

Guild Wars 2, where restarting is a priority

But no word of bear form, if they don’t nerf it as well it’s all geegee.

Some Karl guy in the twitch chat said norn form functionality is changing too.

Restart the meta.

maha.7902:

Some Karl guy in the twitch chat said norn form functionality is changing too.

Restart the meta.

Perfect.

Restart.the.cryhards.

Also relevant:

Oh no…

Lol! The prophet has spoken!

winterchillz.2564:

Wow, PvE is now challenging, fun and interesting, yay, who would guess you only need a damage nerf to make dungeons viable again!

what when are they making dungeons viable again? they’ve always been viable this nerf only applied to actual organized groups as pugs groups don’t ever get into a situation where FGS did anything.

only thing this will do is take the ele out of the organized dungeon run, and replacing it with a warrior or guardian.
so fun…

I often run without Ele and FGS nerf won’t change much, the only boss where FGS was much faster was the ooze in Arah, killing it before it start jumping was sweet, other bosses will just take 4-5 more seconds.

Also some bosses in HoTW but not many people do them anyway.

Trice.4598:

I often run without Ele and FGS nerf won’t change much, the only boss where FGS was much faster was the ooze in Arah, killing it before it start jumping was sweet, other bosses will just take 4-5 more seconds.

Also some bosses in HoTW but not many people do them anyway.

What about Mossman? :C

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I know you probably mean speed running elite guilds but I’ve honestly fell in love with [ARES]

\o/

Dalanor.5387:

Trice.4598:

I often run without Ele and FGS nerf won’t change much, the only boss where FGS was much faster was the ooze in Arah, killing it before it start jumping was sweet, other bosses will just take 4-5 more seconds.

Also some bosses in HoTW but not many people do them anyway.

What about Mossman? :C

Forgot about Fractal XD, fractals are differents, using FGS for boss like mossman or archdiviner was actually a huge challenge in higher levels an could save a lot of time. at least we won’t have to deal with bad ele who all they know is how to drop a weapon (and takes too long to drop it, and the boss is already mid fight)

winterchillz.2564:

Wow, PvE is now challenging, fun and interesting, yay, who would guess you only need a damage nerf to make dungeons viable again!

I wouldn’t go that far just yet. There will always be the most efficient way which will be the new meta

’Tis so exciting! Pretty sure the game will only be dull from now on instead of downright unplayable!

I’m just waiting to see how long before people find something new to complain about.

JasmineLong.6514:

I’m just waiting to see how long before people find something new to complain about.

The next thing will be: “LFG no ele necro or ranger.”

XD. I don’t think it’ll be that bad but some people might blow it out of proportion

Until they nerf ele might stacking and scepter hammer rotations, they will still be more useful than a lot of other classes

I would guess about 2-3 weeks after the “new meta” is established, the core of that will become the new “exploit”.

Silberfisch.3046:

I would guess about 2-3 weeks after the “new meta” is established, the core of that will become the new “exploit”.

Basically what will happen. “Vuln stacking is an exploit.”

I still see 2 eles and a war as being the core of most comps, all the other professions will just fall in line from there.

Yeah I mean there’s still icebow. It’s no where near fgs, but for fractals that 4 is great for the structures (ice, bloom, molten tests, molten duo, maw life steal, anomaly, ascalon, etc)

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Yeah I mean there’s still icebow. It’s no where near fgs, but for fractals that 4 is great for the structures (ice, bloom, molten tests, molten duo, maw life steal, anomaly, ascalon, etc)

Frost bow is op as all hell. Better than fgs IMO since you don’t have to get targets to a corner/wall. Won’t be long before the qqers start on that. It also has that freeze attack.

I imagine a ranger with the new trait and a frostbow is a happy combination.

JasmineLong.6514:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Yeah I mean there’s still icebow. It’s no where near fgs, but for fractals that 4 is great for the structures (ice, bloom, molten tests, molten duo, maw life steal, anomaly, ascalon, etc)

Frost bow is op as all hell. Better than fgs IMO since you don’t have to get targets to a corner/wall. Won’t be long before the qqers start on that. It also has that freeze attack.

Terrible on fractal 38, SOMETHING I NEVER REMEMBER…

Lilith Ajit.6173:

JasmineLong.6514:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Yeah I mean there’s still icebow. It’s no where near fgs, but for fractals that 4 is great for the structures (ice, bloom, molten tests, molten duo, maw life steal, anomaly, ascalon, etc)

Frost bow is op as all hell. Better than fgs IMO since you don’t have to get targets to a corner/wall. Won’t be long before the qqers start on that. It also has that freeze attack.

Terrible on fractal 38, SOMETHING I NEVER REMEMBER…

What’s a fractal

FenrirSlakt.3692:

I rarely ever saw most of my groups use them properly, so this change doesn’t really hurt me at all. However, I’m hoping that these changes will allow them to add more dun- just kidding, that won’t happen.

Please fix the mesmers’ one-year-old bugs while you’re at it, ANET.

Arenanerf only nerfs, they never fix

Bread.7516:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

I rarely ever saw most of my groups use them properly, so this change doesn’t really hurt me at all. However, I’m hoping that these changes will allow them to add more dun- just kidding, that won’t happen.

Please fix the mesmers’ one-year-old bugs while you’re at it, ANET.

Arenanerf only nerfs, they never fix

I like the change WAY more than if they had required a target tbh…

Is it bad that I’m more miffed about the fix on burning retreat than on Fiery rush? I mean it was the one somewhat interesting things to do while camping staff.

Also just a curiosity thing, I wonder how they did the no stacking thing? will it have other situations where it comes up that maybe are unintended? something to keep an eye out for?

JasmineLong.6514:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Yeah I mean there’s still icebow. It’s no where near fgs, but for fractals that 4 is great for the structures (ice, bloom, molten tests, molten duo, maw life steal, anomaly, ascalon, etc)

Frost bow is op as all hell. Better than fgs IMO since you don’t have to get targets to a corner/wall. Won’t be long before the qqers start on that. It also has that freeze attack.

Frost bow isn’t that special on small or medium targets but people just like to spam it on everything because lolfrostbow.

It’s honestly not even an issue.

It’ll be fun once the changes hit and hear everyone qq about “Ermahgerd, donjons so hard! Anet plz nerf.” I will just l3l and lol and k3k all day.

I think you’ll still play with 2 elementalists. Lightninghammer and frostbow for big hitboxes is a must have, though.

Also just a curiosity thing, I wonder how they did the no stacking thing? will it have other situations where it comes up that maybe are unintended? something to keep an eye out for?

Hmm. That is a puzzler.

I guess looking at it systematically, the common denominator between Fiery Rush and Charge is that they both play into the general concept of ‘the player leaving an impact in their wake’. But they don’t seem to spatially based exactly, it seems more like they’re just automating player movement for a fixed period of time and propagating ticks of an effect dependent on time passing. So you’ve got a reasonable simulation of the idea in an open field, but, if you’re being held in place it just keeps going. Maybe they finally got the back end on these charge type skills to create ticks of an effect to be dependent on actual distance traveled instead of pseudo-simulated-distance?

Well, I’d prefer changes like that, anyway. Who knows, though?

maha.7902:

They did it. They hit fiery rush with a sledgehammer the size of planets and now it’s trash tier.

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