A while back there was a rumor that Anet was putting gambits — like in the Queen’s Gauntlet — in dungeons.
It seems like a good idea. For those who find the dungeon too hard, don’t use gambits. For those who find them too easy/unchallenging, use gambits and get bonus rewards.
Anyone have ideas for gambits that would make dungeons more fun/challenging?
Here’s a few to start it off:
Play with fewer than 5 players.
Each player has a small bubble around him/her that other players can’t enter. This would disallow stacking. To make it funnier, if your bubble touches someone else’s, you both get knocked back. A variation where Anet already has the code: take damage if you’re near a party member.
If you get downed you die.
You have to kill every single mob in the path — hopefully this satisfies those who hate skipping.
The rumor was a datamining, it included:
- Do it with 4 people.
- Do it with a level 70 or less member.
- You play with half hp.
- If you go down you are dead permanently and the party cant kick you or invite another player.
I hope they implement it and you can play with all gambits at same time.
I would actually like the idea of well thought out challenges for dungeons. But I think I’m with something like 1% or even less of the whole community here, so I don’t think we will see something like that applied on a wider scale in the next 2 or 3 years.
Naaah way more than that, you just don’t see them complaining on forums because they know Anet have a data base that can tell them how long an average dungeon takes, how many dead… So they don’t need to be too afraid to let the forum for those who have a slower pace than them so they can go even faster.
Theoretically, how would one do CoF P1 with less than 5, the braziers seem pretty unlikely to allow for a clever workaround, and even if you had a thief shadow step from the closest one into the room, you couldn’t do it with less than 4…
Unless the dungeon was reconfigured for the group…
I dont believe those gambits were for permanent dungeons tbh. And if they were I suspect it was just an idea. I dont expect to see them ever actually appearing.
I dont believe those gambits were for permanent dungeons tbh. And if they were I suspect it was just an idea. I dont expect to see them ever actually appearing.
That’s kind of a shame, I know a lot of the hardcore dungeon folks like soloing, and if you got better rewards for it, it would raise the level of the community a bit past just bragging rights.
Theoretically, how would one do CoF P1 with less than 5, the braziers seem pretty unlikely to allow for a clever workaround, and even if you had a thief shadow step from the closest one into the room, you couldn’t do it with less than 4…
Unless the dungeon was reconfigured for the group…
The rumor was a datamining, it included:
- Do it with 4 people.
- Do it with a level 70 or less member.
- You play with half hp.
- If you go down you are dead permanently and the party cant kick you or invite another player.
I hope they implement it and you can play with all gambits at same time.
Troll Mode:
Cave troll randomly spawns at one boss in the dungeon.
Fire fight:
All melee is half damage.
Lava floor:
Must keep moving otherwise burn damage.
Infinity Mode:
Mobs spawn infinitely at 2 random bosses.
Easy Mode: (Rewards are halved; Other gambits can not be activated)
Everything in dungeon has half health.
I like all of these. I actually really like the Easy Mode suggestion. It might help to get some people up to speed on the mechanics or encourage some people to try dungeons.
All in all I really like the gambits in dungeons idea. Instead of reworking the whole dungeon for ‘hard mode’ use the gambit system and let the player ramp up the difficulty as they see fit.
MVP:
Random player is chosen as MVP. This player does twice damage takes half damage to go down. If this player dies Everyone’s damage is halved, including MVP, but health is increased by 10%. If MVP dies >3 times MVP gambit is removed all stats return to normal.
Butterfingers:
Perma weakness.
Finish Him!:
Players have X health can be chosen by instance owner from list of 1000, 2.5k, 5k. Everyone in the group must hit an enemy 10 times before it dies. Skills such as 100 Blades accounts for 1 hit. If a player loses their health pool they are dead for the rest of the dungeon. Bosses have to be hit 30 times by each surviving player to kill it. Range attacks are reflected to the user for 50 damage and do not count towards the counter. Healing skills are removed. Regen skills hurt the player for 10 damage per second.
I can’t see!:
Random player is selected for blindness every 10 seconds. Blindness lasts 8 seconds.
Will there be dungeon specific gambits or just general case?
Hard Mode (One random gambit is added; 3x rewards)
Random/all enemies have perma haste, deal 1.5x damage, players have 75% normal health. Party can wipe once. Voting initiates to restart dungeon with Hard Mode gambit or remove gambit and complete dungeon from last WP.
Breaking Bad (Other gambits can not be activated with):
Upon completion of dungeon players “fight” each other. Players get ranked on how much damage they did to other players. 1st gets 2.5x rewards 2nd 2x 3rd 1.5×.
Share the Health:
All healing skills are negated. Regen doesn’t help/hurt players. The team gets 2 lives. Everyone’s health is added together and is like that of a boss’s health pool. When the health pool is close to depletion whichever player gets downer/die they can be revived/WP and the health pool will fill back up minus the person who died health from total pool. Once lives are depleted defeated players are in spectator mode if the remaining players wipe everyone is revived all gambits are removed.
End of Times:
Players get randomly selected for haste. Players must complete dungeon in allotted time. At the allotted time health gets reduced to 75% maximum. At 2 minutes over allotted time 50%. 3 minutes over 25%. 4 minutes over 50% health with the person doing the least amount of damage dead, 2 random people are selected for haste. 6 minutes over 75% health with 2 lowest damage output players dead. When the timer reaches 7 minutes over allotted time all players are revived gambit is removed.
Endgame:
End of Times, Troll Mode, Lava Floor, Infinity Mode, MVP, Butterfingers, I can’t see!, and Share the Health activated. No wipes allowed. Out of Combat regen allowed, 10 healing abilities allowed.
Mathematical! (Reward = Reward + Reward * .5)(1.5x?):
Simple math equations are randomly displayed on the screen 3/1 press the skill that will give the correct answer skill will do 2x damage.
