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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Just got a fractal shortbow from level 14

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Just got a fractal shortbow from level 14

Mooore anecdotal evidence that droprates are broken ^^ hehe

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

This is all kinds of wrong, you are responsible for your survivability, even as a thief, if you keep dying get off the full zerker gear.

Personally when I do dungeons with pugs I bring my sentinel warrior because I just know I’m gonna be picking everyone from the floor with a spatula, is that what you mean by “needing a tank”? Because honestly I can’t (and I shouldn’t have to) take a hit for you, YOU are responsible to keep yourself alive.

As far as end game goes, no, what you have in WoW is a gear treadmill and an expansion on the kings birthday.
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While I agree with most of his sentiment, why would anyone admit to the bolded?

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

/sarcasm on

You might simply not have enough encounter knowledge to judge about what fractals need and what not.
Go play the game and learn mechanics before suggesting in a CDI thread!

/sarcasm off.

Edit: Come on me, Delay. Beat this. http://youtu.be/hNiIionxgTo

Finally got youtube to work, due to the recent government restrictions over the past 2 weeks ive gotten some pretty good lag, each spike like this can last up to 2 hours and always seems to happen at lupi making me look like a nub. Doubt you can beat this one dub. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWGDXMtXJYE

Not even two minutes, can only laugh about that. Thats like what I get on daily basis.

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Posted by: Delay.6908

Delay.6908

Ill believe it when i see it

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Yours didn’t even beat my previously posted one.
It’s still your turn.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

I just did a fractal with my ele, a guard, a necro, a ranger, and an engi. The trifecta!

It went okay, but the ranger was running, like, 3 spirits the whole time and the engi was a flamethrower engi. I just… I’m lost. I don’t understand things.

Anyway…. I got a crappy uninfused ring and the engi got a fractal scepter. sad

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Delay.6908

O your right, i could only load 1 minute of the video since.. censorship so i just assumed your WW stopped eariler, looks like i need more footage :P

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Good news, #2012 meta still exists.

Anyway, praise the zerg meta.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Good news, #2012 meta still exists.

Laughed out loud.

Who needs that many warriors?

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Posted by: noobgood.8762

noobgood.8762

Good news, #2012 meta still exists.

Hey, don’t joke like that, I had people in an NA pug letting Kholer and the Troll fight eachother. Oh and they also stacked on some weird spot after the spider queen where they could hit only half of the mobs.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

Having fun with my minion master necro in fractals lvl 30+… its just lovely how easy the imbued shaman becomes with this many pet poking at his shield. Non meta run in fractals are so enjoyable i realy dont know how anyone can even have some form of fun constantly running metas but again i guess they just here for the business and dont care about fun in itself. Money becomes so useless once you got everything you want. Im just running fractals for the ascended rings and weapon now in case i can gear all my alts from it

NA isnt bad theres actualy very good player there.

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Lindbur.2537

I want to transfer off SoR, but because all T1 servers are full… sigh

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

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Having fun with my minion master necro in fractals lvl 30+… its just lovely how easy the imbued shaman becomes with this many pet poking at his shield. Non meta run in fractals are so enjoyable i realy dont know how anyone can even have some form of fun constantly running metas but again i guess they just here for the business and dont care about fun in itself. Money becomes so useless once you got everything you want. Im just running fractals for the ascended rings and weapon now in case i can gear all my alts from it

NA isnt bad theres actualy very good player there.

Stop assuming you know what is fun for other people.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

I want to transfer off SoR, but because all T1 servers are full… sigh

Sorry baby, we’re too good for you.

Jokes! ILY!

I’m actually somewhat surprised we are still full. I thought people would transfer off because of the free transfers…. but I guess not?

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If your definition of fun is making money fast and getting quick instance fine by me i dont care for either of this. I got over 800 gold waiting in my bank with nothing interesting to do with it so im just running fractals on my favorite builds. I dont think most people run meta because they like it but because its the most effective build around. I run meta rarely but i do from time to time altrought ill still majoritarily run even arah with my custom builds. Most people care only about getting the stuff done so why should i bother breaking my head running something i dont like when i can run something i like to the same results in a pugged party. As many people said everyone is free to run what they want to run.

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Having fun with my minion master necro in fractals lvl 30+… its just lovely how easy the imbued shaman becomes with this many pet poking at his shield. Non meta run in fractals are so enjoyable i realy dont know how anyone can even have some form of fun constantly running metas but again i guess they just here for the business and dont care about fun in itself. Money becomes so useless once you got everything you want. Im just running fractals for the ascended rings and weapon now in case i can gear all my alts from it

NA isnt bad theres actualy very good player there.

First kuybi post I’ve seen in about a month and I already feel like kicking kittens and puppies.

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noobgood.8762

First kuybi post I’ve seen in about a month and I already feel like kicking kittens and puppies.

Noooooo

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

maxinion.8396

I want to transfer off SoR, but because all T1 servers are full… sigh

Sorry baby, we’re too good for you.

Jokes! ILY!

I’m actually somewhat surprised we are still full. I thought people would transfer off because of the free transfers…. but I guess not?

The free transfer servers aren’t particularly fun. Devona’s Rest or Kaineg? Yuck.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Well, I personally have fun when I’m not dying because the boss is lasting 5 minutes more than it ought to.

I run dungeons to socialize. I run dungeons and RP there. I have fun Roleplaying while in a meta build. If i wasn’t using a meta build, it would not affect my fun in any way.

Why does having a build dictate how fun something is? It’s the people you’re running with that matters. If I have more fun in my speed run groups than I do in a non meta group, the type of group doesn’t even matter. A speed runner might giggle with me when i get downed, and a non meta might call me names for going downed. And vice versa.

Anyway, dungeon running with friends is all thats important to me. What do builds have to do with it?

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kyubi.3620

First kuybi post I’ve seen in about a month and I already feel like kicking kittens and puppies.

Noooooo

Rage as much as you want im back for a while and ill continue to haunt the forum. Anyone else is running a casual build around of late? I have little caring for if the team is a speedrun or not i just enjoy a good fight with some people i dont know socialise say hello to lupicus, ressurect people who dies when it happens. I dont feel any responsability toward people who runs meta in pugs, One has to calculate the risk of running his build in an unorganised team and if it just wont work must adapt in consequance. Just because one person in the pug (not the leader) runs a meta build doesnt mean everyone is at fault for running something else and making the fight longuer, some people enjoy it the way it is. As many elitist says you run a build depending on the damage you think you will take and if you think you will take next to no damage go ahead why not. You are in no way responsible for what happens to others in a pug as there is no actual way to coordinate an organised team most of the time, long as you play to the best of your ability why have any regrets? If you aint happy about the team composition there is specific LFG around for that too.

Some cares little about builds others makes it a way of play. I feel one skill isnt limited to maximised effectiveness but how well he can run his favored build. It is only a personnal opinion but i can actualy see arts in build designing. One should be judged on how well he plays and not on his actual choice of build, I wont judge a bearbow ranger until i see how well he plays in a dungeon.

Expect nothing from others and enjoy the run to the fullest thats my moto for pugging.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

First kuybi post I’ve seen in about a month and I already feel like kicking kittens and puppies.

Noooooo

Rage as much as you want im back for a while and ill continue to haunt the forum. Anyone else is running a casual build around of late?

Currently running 0/0/0/0/10 for blasting staff while running scepter dagger.

Also, Level 0 healing armor.

Also also, full signet build.

Also also also, …. that’s it.

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Lindbur.2537

If things get extreme enough I might transfer to EU for a week… it’s free to go to Gandara, so I can harass Spoj.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

If things get extreme enough I might transfer to EU for a week… it’s free to go to Gandara, so I can harass Spoj.

I think its not free to transfer NA→EU. It’s like … 2400 gems or something.

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Lindbur.2537

Nah, it said 0 gems when I checked.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Nah, it said 0 gems when I checked.

Interesting! Good to know.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

First kuybi post I’ve seen in about a month and I already feel like kicking kittens and puppies.

Noooooo

Rage as much as you want im back for a while and ill continue to haunt the forum. Anyone else is running a casual build around of late?

Currently running 0/0/0/0/10 for blasting staff while running scepter dagger.

Also, Level 0 healing armor.

Also also, full signet build.

Also also also, …. that’s it.

long as it works why not

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

First kuybi post I’ve seen in about a month and I already feel like kicking kittens and puppies.

Noooooo

Rage as much as you want im back for a while and ill continue to haunt the forum. Anyone else is running a casual build around of late?

Currently running 0/0/0/0/10 for blasting staff while running scepter dagger.

Also, Level 0 healing armor.

Also also, full signet build.

Also also also, …. that’s it.

long as it works why not

Works famously.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

tbh if you can run a build wich doesnt have traits in the dungeon all good. People run dungeons naked so why not traitless too.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Oh, guys: those of you on EU who are good with letting me leech: i have a goal I’ll need help with.

I would like to get Dungeon Master before level 30. Any takers?

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Posted by: Spoj The Second.7680

Spoj The Second.7680

lol xD

List what you need and we may be able to help with a few if we have spaces.

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

totaly doable the same as i carry lvl 2 from guilds in fractals just make sure you got a party whos agreeing with your goals.

Didnt a guy from Rt Solo lupicus at lvl 30ish or lower?

Anyway you should post pics of that in some topic like so we can fellow your journey

Lilith pre lvl 30 dungeon master challange

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

lol xD

List what you need and we may be able to help with a few if we have spaces.

AC:
p3
story

CM
All

TA
All

SE
All

CoE
All

Hotw
All

Arah:
story
p3
p4

A exorbitant amount of paths, I know. But so far Dub and I have only gotten to a couple ACs and Arahs. Ha! (I’m level 6 atm hahaha)

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Posted by: Nikaido.3457

Nikaido.3457

Having fun with my minion master necro in fractals lvl 30+… its just lovely how easy the imbued shaman becomes with this many pet poking at his shield.

One, only one player poking at his shield with some autoattack is enough to destroy the shield. On the other hand, your minions will almost insta die after a couple AoE and you have no utilities to actually bring while you slot things like minion in. Good job! Minion OP.

Actually, condi necros are more useful than you are. That’s pretty sad.

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

Well I can help with CoE story whenever you want (when I’m at home ofc). For the other paths, it’ll depend if we got a spot

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

Minions who are constantly healed with life transfer/ regeneration and have the +50% health bonus dont die this easily… generaly i can even take the time to blow up my bone minions before they even reach 25%. This fight is also full of fodder for reanimator, did you try minion master yet?

I lose one minion every once in a while but very rarely do i loose them all at the same time. Condi necromancer dont heal the party but from a point of view they indeed bring good damage, dont dismiss my damage as weak however i still got dagger/focus and deal at least 2k+ periodic damage from minion alone unbuffed. add to this my own damage im still doing a fair 5k+ DPS wich for a support/control hybrid build is quite good not to mention the partywide regeneration condition removal and vulnerability stacks. I respect condimancer as dps but beside off theyre damage i dont see any much use for them in a party. Dagger power builds actualy are likely better then both. Minion master isnt a build that deals that much dps and wouldnt be much of help in a meta party but does have the best sustain the necro class got as well as excellent crowd control, I dont run minion master in a meta party but in general i wont run a meta party unless i feel like playing my warrior or my guardian.

Minions are utility in themselves because they take hits for the party. Beside theyr bleed stacking (other class in the party might also bring in bleed its just sad the maximum is 25) i dont see what condi necro brings.

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Posted by: Spoj The Second.7680

Spoj The Second.7680

Didnt a guy from Rt Solo lupicus at lvl 30ish or lower?

That was me but I didnt really solo it because i do like 10 dmg per hit at lvl 30. I was able to avoid being hit indefinately, allowing my group mates to take a screenshot which made it look as though i solo’d him to 10% hp.

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

I am pretty certain that there is a profession that can summon up to 3 minions without dropping all your utilities.

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Posted by: Dub.1273

Dub.1273

Ranger. Doesn’t even have to drop one.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

And what poor class gets no minions even when literally dropping utilities?

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Warrior!

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Posted by: Spoj The Second.7680

Spoj The Second.7680

Depends on the race. Human warrior can summon hounds of balth! And if you have deluxe everyone can summon a minion!

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Wethospu.6437

Enough of roleplaying Spoj!

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Posted by: IrisTheCasual.3742

IrisTheCasual.3742

lol xD

List what you need and we may be able to help with a few if we have spaces.

AC:
p3
story

CM
All

TA
All

SE
All

CoE
All

Hotw
All

Arah:
story
p3
p4

A exorbitant amount of paths, I know. But so far Dub and I have only gotten to a couple ACs and Arahs. Ha! (I’m level 6 atm hahaha)

You’ll probably get to 31 by the time you finish your DM

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

counts
Yeah, so I guess if you say it’s a level per path it’s 27 levels. But since it’s .75 of a level…. It’s… 20.5. So it would work I believe if I got zero exp from else where.

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Posted by: IrisTheCasual.3742

IrisTheCasual.3742

You’ll get exp from running to wp :p

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Posted by: NeoVaris.4806

NeoVaris.4806

The Risen in Arah seem to be annoyed about exploits, so they do it themselves.

That Safe-Spot

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This seems like a good place to ask a question for you dungeony DPS experts. I don’t play my Engineer all the time but I do use him occassionally. 30/30/0/0/10 Bomb/Grenades etc. my last skill I can never decide on, between Thumper Turret for 3 blast finishers, or Elixir B, or something else. Was wondering if it was worth it damage wise to have Flamethrower on the bar just to use Flameblast

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Posted by: RemiRome.8495

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The Risen in Arah seem to be annoyed about exploits, so they do it themselves.

That Safe-Spot

We had that too on a recent run. Couldn’t even report him

edit: and a villager even dared to go outside map. they have no shame.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

One of these days, my goal in life is to lay my eyes upon an eternity ranger. Because I’ve never seen one. Have any of you?

Now I don’t know if greatsword is good on ranger or not, but i don’t care. If I see an eternity ranger, I know for a fact that they know what they’re doing have no better class to put it on.

Now sleep time. I’ll dungeon in my dreams.

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