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frifox.5283:

Taku.6352:

PS. They really need to put back the steady weapons to pvp so people can test properly. >_>

PvP uses lvl 78 exotics. Phantasms use lvl 80 exotics. Not sure about pets and minions.

I’m aware of that but steady weapons would make things a lot easier since the had fixed dmg scale so it was very obvious to see any differences when testing stuff like this.

RIP ranger, right after I buy a bunch of legendaries for it.

O_O?

Lindbur.2537:

O_O?

Taku.6352:

Based on my 10 minute pony spam session against indestructible golems I’m 90% certain that they’ve put the 10s recharge on FS.

Without amulet, sigils, runes, and traits my auto attack on SB ranged from 123 to 136 and when frost spirit procced (usually off CD ) I got about 140-146 ticks at the same intervals as i got the effect from other spirits which we know to have 10 second recharge.

And on LB 2 and axe offhand 5 I only got one proc per cast.

PS. They really need to put back the steady weapons to pvp so people can test properly. >_>

Well thats kitten.

Good to see they fixed this bug

J Eberle.9312:

Lindbur.2537:

O_O?

Taku.6352:

Based on my 10 minute pony spam session against indestructible golems I’m 90% certain that they’ve put the 10s recharge on FS.

Without amulet, sigils, runes, and traits my auto attack on SB ranged from 123 to 136 and when frost spirit procced (usually off CD ) I got about 140-146 ticks at the same intervals as i got the effect from other spirits which we know to have 10 second recharge.

And on LB 2 and axe offhand 5 I only got one proc per cast.

PS. They really need to put back the steady weapons to pvp so people can test properly. >_>

QQ

The spider queen wiped the floor with me and I can never shower again

Inb4 Swifty/other Aussies tell me to grow a pair. QQ

without traits:
10% damage increase in 30% of cases would be a 3% damage increase overall (okay).

with traits:
10% damage increase in 70% of cases would be a 7% damage increase overall (pretty good).

Lets assume you get in 1 attack every second and the internal cooldown is 10 seconds. Then one out of ten attacks gets the boost of 10%. That’s about 1% damage increase (crap)

This also means you not need to trait it to get the same damage. Even if it activates more than twice as often, this will not matter since it has an interal CD of 10 seconds.

tl;dr:
if you can maintain more than 1 stack of vulnerability on a target, you are more useful than the frost spirit aura. Traiting increased proc chance for spirits is useless for Frost Spirit.

Sins.4782:

Just tested in mists, only 1 hit of multi-hit attacks was increased with frosty. Requesting someone else to test whether non-multi-hit attacks are gaining the damage bonus more than once per 10s, the numbers I’m getting atm are too varied to tell and I’m low on time.

Wow, and I thought I was crazy when I tested it yesterday with whirling defense. I simply thought it only triggers once on multi-hit skills, but wow.

ANet kicks the Ranger in the balls and no one notices, gg.

I plan on getting my ele to lvl 80 today/tomorrow (currently level 71) so that way i can enjoy a weekend of fiery exploit sword before it gets nerfed

I am actually broken. I don’t know what to feel any more.

J Eberle.9312:

I am actually broken. I don’t know what to feel any more.

Tell me about it.

Close to 3k hours on my ranger now and right when we get a glimpse of hope with the new feature patch they slap this to our faces. Sure this change might have been there for quite some time but it’s close to impossible to notice it everyday use.

Awesome, now Ranger is completely useless until Frost Spirit is fixed or..something else happens?

Ranger aint useless
We can still kick kitten

>Not searching lfg for worst groups and longbowing your way through dungeon.

What do you even know about having fun with ranger?

Time to go throw money at my engi and then have that nerfed or something >_>

J Eberle.9312:

Time to go throw money at my engi and then have that nerfed or something >_>

I don’t see many Engis running around compared to ranger…so the nerf is lower chance.

At least u no nerfcro.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

At least u no nerfcro.

:’(

Don’t worry guys, we’re giving them our ‘feedback’ on this change.

https://twitter.com/NikeDnT/status/507544965799768064

Was I the only one that thought “welp, now they know what specifically to nerf” when I saw the red post on the PvXWiki? Love the website, but I’m wary of the devs.

Maybe I should take a few weeks off the forums.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

Was I the only one that thought “welp, now they know what specifically to nerf” when I saw the red post on the PvXWiki? Love the website, but I’m wary of the devs.

Maybe I should take a few weeks off the forums.

You should. And come to mine

Only 0.7%? Blasphemy!

0.7% x 5 people = 3.5%. Next, get everyone to pull out a minipet to increase entity count and you get 0.7% x 10 = a staggering 7% increase!

Yay! Something in this feature patch I’d actually use!!!

Facepalm
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Suggestion-SAB-Themed-Fractal

See you guys in-game. Gonna take some time off PvF. The stupid is starting to hurt. Wish you all nothing but the best.

J Eberle.9312:

Don’t worry guys, we’re giving them our ‘feedback’ on this change.

https://twitter.com/NikeDnT/status/507544965799768064

Don’t become overly childish or they simply ignore you. Not if they care about the dungeon community but don’t make the situation worse you know.
Apart from the inaccurate tooltip, any idea why this change is good or neccessary? It’s just another PvE oriented nerf for one of thel less desired classes and has 0 effect on PvP.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

See you guys in-game. Gonna take some time off PvF. The stupid is starting to hurt. Wish you all nothing but the best.

Can’t blame you for that…I hope you’re better at staying away than I’ve been ;-)

Someone is arguing that damage multipliers are added together, not multiplied. I tried to correct him. In return I got a classy link to a proof that “1 + 1 = 2” and then got told that I’m wrong and should “Go divide yourself by 0”.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2fgbk4/how_do_x_damage_effects_stack

My faith in humanity is wavering ;_;

frifox.5283:

Go divide yourself by 0

Lmao

frifox.5283:

Someone is arguing that damage multipliers are added together, not multiplied. I tried to correct him. In return I got a classy link to a proof that “1 + 1 = 2” and then got told that I’m wrong and should “Go divide yourself by 0”.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2fgbk4/how_do_x_damage_effects_stack

My faith in humanity is wavering ;_;

There are a lot of crazy people who are convinced that the wiki is infallible lol.

Let’s proof that “1+1=2, 10, NaN” and division by 0 is not definable. That will shatter his world.

Frifox, take comfort in knowing that there are still people out there who participate in this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society

Dalanor.5387:

J Eberle.9312:

Don’t worry guys, we’re giving them our ‘feedback’ on this change.

https://twitter.com/NikeDnT/status/507544965799768064

Don’t become overly childish or they simply ignore you. Not if they care about the dungeon community but don’t make the situation worse you know.
Apart from the inaccurate tooltip, any idea why this change is good or neccessary? It’s just another PvE oriented nerf for one of thel less desired classes and has 0 effect on PvP.

The change was simply to put it in line with the tooltip. I don’t see this ever being changed back for the sake of class diversity in dungeons. They don’t care about that and won’t until we see necro actually being useful lol.

Pastafarianism is more valid than that.

frifox.5283:

Someone is arguing that damage multipliers are added together, not multiplied. I tried to correct him. In return I got a classy link to a proof that “1 + 1 = 2” and then got told that I’m wrong and should “Go divide yourself by 0”.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2fgbk4/how_do_x_damage_effects_stack

My faith in humanity is wavering ;_;

Your mistake was actually trying to argue on leddit. Let me put it VERY nicely (otherwise you’d see multiple kitten in a row), a lot of people there are idiots.

So I went ahead and did some in-game tests on the Frost Spirit. 500 x fireball (ele staff aa, non-crits only) without spirit, with untraited spirit, and then with traited spirit.

35% – 0.64% dps boost
70% – 0.86% dps boost

I believe the numbers may be slightly inflated since I had to pause for like 10 sec every 60 sec to let the ranger to re-summon the spirit, which pretty much gave the spirit ICD to reset letting me proc it faster every summon.

Either way, its more or less a 10x nerf on the spirit so yeah… rangers g.g.

0.64% dps boost? lol, rangers are worth a half stack of vuln now. Why?

So I had time to watch all of the class balance changes that was broadcasted by GW2.

Thought this was worth a second take. Starts at 20:14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c86ECLpcamo&feature=youtu.be&t=20m14s

I’ll transcribe it for you:

Illusionary Warden: We fixed a bug with this phantasm that caused it to fail its attack occasionally when he was attached to a melee enemy.

This is completely wrong. The reason for Warden failing has nothing to do with a melee enemy. (example: Alphard, or any freaken structure for that matter). How disappointing. I’ll call it now, warden will not be fixed, so any mesmers out there, don’t get your hopes up.

I remember fixes to warden. The first one broke it. The second one broke the summon of it. The third one broke its spin. The fourth one broke its reflection. It seems to be time to break the cast. Let it be like ele focus fire 4, start casting but calcel when you turn or queue a skill.

my latest 80. meet my ele Mini The Grump standing in front of the most difficult boss in the game

and i lolled when i saw this

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2fj1hz/accidentally_clicked_on_endless_monkey_king_tonic/ck9pbcn

:D

frifox.5283:

So I went ahead and did some in-game tests on the Frost Spirit. 500 x fireball (ele staff aa, non-crits only) without spirit, with untraited spirit, and then with traited spirit.

35% – 0.64% dps boost
70% – 0.86% dps boost

I believe the numbers may be slightly inflated since I had to pause for like 10 sec every 60 sec to let the ranger to re-summon the spirit, which pretty much gave the spirit ICD to reset letting me proc it faster every summon.

Either way, its more or less a 10x nerf on the spirit so yeah… rangers g.g.

Hmm…do you have a source for this? I mean, anyone can just say anything.

>.>

Minigrump.4961:

my latest 80. meet my ele Mini The Grump standing in front of the most difficult boss in the game

Whoa, you beat Zhaitan and were still awake enough for a screenshot??!? Impressive!

I like your ele’s style B-)

New sigils and runes (3 each) incoming, among them a ferocity stacking sigil.

So yesterday I may have discovered some bad news for the Arah goat community. Have fun while you can, but it looks like our days are numbered. There are some dark, foreboding clouds rolling into the map from Zhaitan’s lair…I don’t want to get too specific in case ANet hasn’t realized their mistake, but it looks like some more walls are imminent Q_Q

The walls are eternal, there is no stopping them

Best runes for engi* after strength and hoelbrak and scholar?